Golf Talk Live - Arnold Palmer Transcript Segment 6

By Golf Channel DigitalFebruary 7, 2000, 5:00 pm
PETER KESSLER
NOW, WHY DON'T WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FABULOUS LAST HOLE YOU PLAYED IN 1961 AT AUGUSTA NATIONAL, WHICH I'M SURE YOU'RE DYING TO SEE AGAIN,

AND MAYBE THE BOTH OF YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT ARNOLD'S DOING AFTER HE'S ACCEPTED CONGRATULATIONS FROM GEORGE LOWE WALKING UP THE 18TH FAIRWAY AFTER A GREAT DRIVE. THAT IS RIGHT, ISN'T IT?

ARNOLD PALMER
THAT IS RIGHT. THAT IS IT, OH .

PETER KESSLER
YOU SAID, 'THANK YOU.' AND HE SAID, 'TERRIFIC' AND . AND THEN LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE REST OF IT. ARNOLD NEEDS PAR ON 18 TO BEAT YOU BY A SHOT, GARY, AND THIS IS HIS THIRD SHOT.

GARY PLAYER
WELL, YOU SEE UH AND . ARNOLD HAD THE CLUBFACE, IF YOU LOOK CAREFULLY, OPEN AT THAT BURIED LIE. AND I MEAN, NOW WE PLAY THE SHOT WITH A - MORE OF A CLOSED FACE OR NOT QUITE AS OPEN.

AND THAT BALL DID SKID - THAT CLUB DID SKID RIGHT UNDER THAT BALL, IF YOU SEE THAT .

PETER KESSLER
BOY, YOU'RE GETTING SOME LOOK.

ARNOLD PALMER
TERRIBLE.

GARY PLAYER
AND .

PETER KESSLER
AND NOW WE'RE GONNA SEE .

ARNOLD PALMER
SO I'M NOT GONNA SAY ANYMORE. I . I - BUT I WILL SAY SOMETHING TO HIM LATER AND .

PETER KESSLER
OH NO, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT 1962 IN JUST A MOMENT. NOW THIS IS THE PUTT TO TIE YOU, GARY. YOU WANT TO UH, ANNOUNCE OVER THIS FOR US PLEASE?

GARY PLAYER
WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, IT DIDN'T GO IN. BUT I'LL TELL YOU, ARNOLD DIDN'T HIT MANY BAD PUTTS. AND IF ANYBODY WAS GONNA PUTT ON THE LAST HOLE FOR YOU, YOU'D LIKE ARNOLD TO HAVE PUTTED.

BUT IT MAY BE HE RAN OUT OF PUTTS, YOU KNOW. (LAUGH)

ARNOLD PALMER
OH . YES.

PETER KESSLER
THIS WAS A HAPPY MOMENT FOR YOU ARNOLD, RIGHT?

ARNOLD PALMER
MANY TIMES, MANY TIMES.

PETER KESSLER
HELPING GARY ON WITH THE JACKET WAS A DELIGHT FOR YOU?

YOU'RE NOT EVEN SPEAKING TO ME NOW.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD ONE YEAR, FELLOWS, TO 1962. AND YOU'RE DONE, AND DOW FINSTERWALD IS DONE, AND YOU'RE TIED. ARNOLD'S A COUPLE OF STROKES BEHIND, NEEDS SOME BIRDIES.

WHY DON'T WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE INCREDIBLE CHIP-IN ON THE 70TH HOLE OF THE CHAMPIONSHIP.

GARY PLAYER
IS THIS AT - IS THIS AT THE 16TH? YES.

PETER KESSLER
THAT'S AT 16. NOW YOU CAN BARELY SEE THE BALL.

GARY PLAYER
I MEAN .

PETER KESSLER
IT'S MOVING FROM RIGHT TO LEFT.

GARY PLAYER
YEAH, YOU HAVE TO BE UP THERE TO KNOW THAT GREEN. I MEAN, THERE'S .

PETER KESSLER
LOOK HOW LONG HE WALKS BEFORE HE PICKS THIS UP.
ARNOLD PALMER
YEAH, THAT WAS AMAZING. THIS . THIS WAS AN AMAZING SHOT.

GARY PLAYER
I THINK THAT'S - NO, THAT REALLY WAS.

ARNOLD PALMER
YES. I THOUGHT SO.

GARY PLAYER
AND I'M 8 FEET FROM THE HOLE AND I'VE GOT HIM BY 2 SHOTS.

PETER KESSLER
AND SO - BUT HERE'S THE NEXT DAY. THIS IS ON THE TENTH HOLE OF THE PLAYOFF, THE NEXT DAY, THE THREE-MAN PLAYOFF. WHAT HAPPENED HERE, GARY?

GARY PLAYER
ARNOLD PUSHED IT OUT TO THE RIGHT A LITTLE BIT BUT HIT A PERFECT PUTT, AS YOU CAN SEE. AND I WENT JUST OVER THE GREEN, CHIPPED BACK 5 FEET, AND MADE 5. SO ARNOLD GOING BACK IN 31. UH ..

PETER KESSLER
HIS TEE SHOT TO NUMBER 12 IN THE PLAYOFF.

GARY PLAYER
YEAH.

ARNOLD PALMER
HE WAS MOST APPRECIATIVE OF THE FACT THAT I MADE 6 AT THE LAST HOLE THE YEAR BEFORE. AND HE WAS REALLY TRYING TO GET EVEN.

(GARY LAUGHS)

PETER KESSLER
WE SEE - YOU KNOW, YOU . YOU'RE THE CLASSIC SALESMAN AND MARKETER. YOU'RE STILL DRESSED IN ALL BLACK. YOU'RE KNOWN FOR THE EXERCISE AND THE TRAVEL AND THE BANANAS AND THE HEALTH FOOD.

YOU, YOU MARKET JUST BY BREATHING WHEREVER YOU GO. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.

BUT A LOT OF TODAY'S PLAYERS THINK THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY OF THAT, THAT IT'S OKAY TO PLAY, PICK UP THE CHECK, AND HIT THE ROAD. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

ARNOLD PALMER
OH, I THINK UH . OF COURSE, THE BUSINESS OF GOLF HAS CHANGED. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PLAYERS UH, MORE INTERACTIVE WITH THE GALLERIES. AND I THINK IT WOULD ONLY HELP THEM.

BUT THEY, OF COURSE, HAVE A . A POINT THAT UH, IT'S BIG BUSINESS. AND WHEN YOU THINK, AS YOU SAID A LITTLE WHILE AGO . WHAT'D I WIN? 75 THOUSAND AND TIGER WON 6.6 MILLION.

PETER KESSLER
YOU DIDN'T FORGET.

ARNOLD PALMER
NO I (CHUCKLE) . NUMBERS ARE MY GAME.

ACTUALLY UH, IT IS A BUSINESS. BUT I STILL THINK THAT IT'S A GAME. AND I JUST WISH WE COULD STAY IN THAT . THOUGHT THAT IT'S A GAME OF - AND IT'LL ALWAYS BE A GAME.

AND IF YOU CAN SMILE A LITTLE AND HAVE A LITTLE FUN PLAYING IT UH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

PETER KESSLER
WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY ON THE PHONE WHO KNOWS A LOT ABOUT SALES AND MARKETING ON A GOLF AND A PERSONAL LEVEL, LPGA PLAYER, LAURA BAUGH. HELLO LAURA.

LAURA BAUGH, CALLER/LPGA PLAYER
HI PETER. HOW ARE YOU?

PETER KESSLER
VERY WELL THANK YOU.

IT'S ALL YOURS.

LAURA BAUGH, CALLER/LPGA PLAYER
WELL, I'M JUST CALLING TO SAY THAT UH ARNOLD MENTIONED INTEGRITY, HELLO ARNOLD.

ARNOLD PALMER
HI LAURA.

LAURA BAUGH, CALLER/LPGA PLAYER
HI, AND HELLO GARY.

GARY PLAYER
HOW ARE YOU, LAURA?

LAURA BAUGH, CALLER/LPGA PLAYER
I'M FINE, THANK YOU. AND I JUST UH, BEING AN LPGA PLAYER FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS AND HAVING CHILDREN, AND I JUST UH WANTED TO CALL IN AND SAY THAT BOTH IN BUSINESS AND WITH THEIR FAMILIES,

I JUST UH DON'T KNOW TWO GENTLEMEN THAT HAVE MORE INTEGRITY AND HAVE DONE MORE FOR THE GAME OF GOLF THAN THESE TWO. AND THEY ARE JUST .

YOU KNOW, IN TODAY'S SOCIETY IT'S HARD TO FIND UH TWO MEN THAT HAVE DONE MORE IN EVERYTHING. AND I JUST UH WANTED TO SAY THAT I'VE SEEN THEM FOR A LONG TIME. AND UH,

THEY'RE JUST GREAT. THEY'RE JUST GREAT FOR GOLF. AND THE OLDER I GET, THE MORE I PLAY, THE MORE I LOVE GOLF. AND I REALLY UH SEE MY CHILDREN LOVING GOLF AND .

AND THEY'RE JUST - THEY'VE DONE . YOU KNOW, THEY'VE KEPT UP THE INTEGRITY AND THE SPIRIT OF THE GAME. AND UH, IT'S REALLY A PLEASURE AND A HONOR TO KNOW THESE GUYS.

ARNOLD PALMER & GARY PLAYER)
(SAY TOGETHER)
THANK YOU LAURA.

LAURA BAUGH, CALLER/LPGA PLAYER
YEAH, YEAH. AND UH, I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA JUST KEEP PLAYING GREAT. AND IT'S JUST UH GREAT TO SEE THEM. AND I WANTED TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE SUPER.

GARY PLAYER
THANK YOU.

PETER KESSLER
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CALL, LAURA.

LAURA BAUGH, CALLER/LPGA PLAYER
OKAY.

PETER KESSLER
I LISTEN TO HER. I LOOK AT YOUR FACES. AND I . AND I REALIZE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS GAME MEANS AS MUCH TO YOU TODAY, BOTH OF YOU, AS IT DID WHEN YOU WERE LITTLE BOYS.

WHY HAS THE STRENGTH OF THAT APPEAL LASTED SO LONG?

ARNOLD PALMER
WELL, THE GAME OF GOLF, FIRST OF ALL, UH . I WAS TAUGHT TO RESPECT THE GAME BY MY FATHER. AND UH, AND LOOK WHAT IT'S GIVEN TO ME.

I COULDN'T . THERE IS NO WAY IN THE WORLD, PETER, THAT I COULD EVER REPAY WHAT GOLF HAS MEANT TO ME IN MY LIFETIME .

EVERYTHING, I MEAN, MY WIFE, MY CHILDREN UH, THE ENJOYMENT, THE FRIENDS THAT I HAVE THROUGHOUT THE WORLD AND THE PEOPLE THAT . UH, THAT I TALK TO EVERYDAY.

AND I READ MAIL FROM EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD. UH, AS I SAY, IT'S . IT'S A WALK OF LIFE THAT IS FANTASTIC. AND IT'S SMOOTH. IT'S COOL FOR THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY.

UH, AND IT WILL BE THAT WAY, BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP . AND I - I'M SORRY IF I KEEP REPEATING THIS . WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE GAME OF GOLF.

PETER KESSLER
SHARE WITH US, GARY, ONE OF GOLF'S EMBARRASSING MOMENTS.

GARY PLAYER
WELL, I CAN THINK OF ONE OF THE MOST EMBARRASSING MOMENTS I'VE EVER HAD WITH ARNOLD. AND .

ARNOLD PALMER
NO, YOU'RE NOT GONNA TELL THAT STORY. IF YOU .

GARY PLAYER
OH, I'VE GOT THEM THIS. BUT MAY I TELL THEM EXACTLY HOW IT HAPPENED?

PETER KESSLER
PLEASE.

GARY PLAYER
EXACTLY, I MEAN, I HOPE THE VIEWERS DON'T MIND. BUT THIS IS .

ARNOLD PALMER
NO. THEY WOULD MIND.

PETER KESSLER
AS IF YOU WOULD EVER EXAGGERATE.

ARNOLD PALMER
YES, THEY WOULD.

GARY PLAYER
NO, THEY WOULDN'T BUY THAT. BUT (CHUCKLE) .

ARNOLD PALMER
BECAUSE YOU DID IT.

GARY PLAYER
WE'RE PLAYING .

(GARY AND ARNOLD LAUGH)

WE'RE PLAYING IN JAPAN AND WE'RE PLAYING . AND WE'VE GOT A FEW JAPANESE VISITORS HERE THIS EVENING SO THEY WOULD APPRECIATE IT. BUT WE'RE PLAYING IN JAPAN IN SOME MATCHES THERE.

AND YOU KNOW, BEES DO IT, OLD PEOPLE DO IT, YOUNG PEOPLE DO IT. THEY PASS WIND, YOU SEE.

ARNOLD PALMER
GARY, THIS IS A . THIS IS A GOLF SHOW.

GARY PLAYER
NOW, HEY LISTEN, ARN', I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU. NO WAY (LAUGH) .

ARNOLD PALMER
I'M . I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO INTERRUPT.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT NICE PROGRAMMING YOU TALKED ABOUT BEFORE?

GARY PLAYER
SO NOW, WE'RE PLAYING THERE. AND YOU KNOW, BY MISTAKE, YOU KNOW, ARNOLD BENDS DOWN AND PASSES WIND AND LOOKS AT ME .

NOW HE LOOKS AT ME, SEE, LOOKS AT ME. SO HELL, WHAT DO I DO? I MEAN, HERE'S THE GREAT ARNOLD PALMER WHO JUST PASSED WIND, I MEAN, LOOKS AT ME. AND THIS JAPANESE MAN COMES UP TO ME. HE SAYS,

'GOMEN NASAI, PLAYER-SAN, PLAYER-SAN, NO GOOD YOU FART ON TV SHOW.'

(ALL LAUGH)

I SAY . I SAY, 'I DON'T KNOW. THAT MEANS, SIR', I SAID, 'I DON'T KNOW. ME NO FART. PALMER FART.' 'NO, NO, I SEE YOU. I SEE YOU.' (LAUGH)

AND HE WALKED AWAY AND HE .

ARNOLD PALMER
GARY, I FORGIVE YOU. I REALLY DO FORGIVE YOU FOR THAT.

GARY PLAYER
BOY, I MEAN .

PETER KESSLER
YOU KNOW, UH - NOT SO LONG AFTER THAT, GARY WAS HITTING A SHOT ON TELEVISION AND THE COMMENTATOR SAID, 'AND THERE'S A STRONG BREEZE COMING FROM THE REAR.'

WE'LL TAKE A SHORT BREAK. WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.

(BREAK)

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Hadwin returns to site of last year's 59

By Will GrayJanuary 17, 2018, 11:04 pm

Adam Hadwin had a career season last year, one that included shooting a 59 and winning a PGA Tour event. But those two achievements didn't occur in the same week.

While Hadwin's breakthrough victory came at the Valspar Championship in March, it was at the CareerBuilder Challenge in January when he first made headlines with a third-round 59 at La Quinta Country Club. Hadwin took a lead into the final round as a result, but he ultimately couldn't keep pace with Hudson Swafford.

He went on to earn a spot at the Tour Championship, and Hadwin made his first career Presidents Cup appearance in October. Now the Canadian returns to Palm Springs, eager to improve on last year's result and hoping to earn a spot in the final group for a third straight year after a T-6 finish in 2016.

"A lot of good memories here in the desert," Hadwin told reporters. "I feel very comfortable here, very at home. Lots of Canadians, so it's always fun to play well in front of those crowds and hopefully looking forward to another good week."

Hadwin's 59 last year was somewhat overshadowed, both by the fact that he didn't win the event and that it came just one week after Justin Thomas shot a 59 en route to victory at the Sony Open. But he's still among an exclusive club of just eight players to have broken 60 in competition on Tour and he's eager to get another crack at La Quinta on Saturday.

"If I'm in the same position on 18, I'm gunning for 58 this year," Hadwin said, "not playing safe for 59."

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Rahm: If I thought like Phil, I could not hit a shot

By Will GrayJanuary 17, 2018, 10:39 pm

When it comes to Jon Rahm and Phil Mickelson, there are plenty of common bonds. Both starred at Arizona State, both are now repped by the same agency and Rahm's former college coach and agent, Tim Mickelson, now serves full-time as his brother's caddie.

Those commonalities mean the two men have played plenty of practice rounds together, but the roads quickly diverge when it comes to on-course behavior. Rahm is quick, fiery and decisive; Mickelson is one of the most analytical players on Tour. And as Rahm told reporters Wednesday at the CareerBuilder Challenge, those differences won't end anytime soon.

"I don't need much. 'OK, it's like 120 (yards), this shot, right," Rahm said. "And then you have Phil, it's like, 'Oh, this shot, the moisture, this going on, this is like one mile an hour wind sideways, it's going to affect it one yard. This green is soft, this trajectory. They're thinking, and I'm like, 'I'm lost.' I'm like, 'God if I do that thought process, I could not hit a golf shot.'"


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The tactics may be more simplified, but Rahm can't argue with the results. While Mickelson is in the midst of a winless drought that is approaching five years, Rahm won three times around the world last year and will defend a PGA Tour title for the first time next week at Torrey Pines.

Both men are in the field this week in Palm Springs, where Mickelson will make his 2018 debut with what Rahm fully expects to be another dose of high-level analytics for the five-time major winner with his brother on the bag.

"It's funny, he gets to the green and then it's the same thing. He's very detail-oriented," Rahm said of Mickelson. "I'm there listening and I'm like, 'Man, I hope we're never paired together for anything because I can't think like this. I would not be able to play golf like that. But for me to listen to all that is really fun."

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DJ changes tune on golf ball distance debate

By Will GrayJanuary 17, 2018, 9:16 pm

World No. 1 Dustin Johnson is already one of the longest hitters in golf, so he's not looking for any changes to be made to golf ball technology - despite comments from him that hinted at just such a notion two months ago.

Johnson is in the Middle East this week for the Abu Dhabi HSBC Championship, and he told BBC Sport Wednesday that he wouldn't be in favor of making changes to the golf ball in order to remedy some of the eye-popping distances players are hitting the ball with ever-increasing frequency.

"It's not like we are dominating golf courses," Johnson said. "When was the last time you saw someone make the game too easy? I don't really understand what all the debate is about because it doesn't matter how far it goes; it is about getting it in the hole."

Johnson's rhetorical question might be answered simply by looking back at his performance at the Sentry Tournament of Champions earlier this month, an eight-shot romp that featured a tee shot on the 433-yard 12th hole that bounded down a slope to within inches of the hole.

Johnson appeared much more willing to consider a reduced-distance ball option at the Hero World Challenge in November, when he sat next to tournament host Tiger Woods and supported Woods' notion that the ball should be addressed.

"I don't mind seeing every other professional sport, they play with one ball. All the pros play with the same ball," Johnson said. "In baseball, the guys that are bigger and stronger, they can hit a baseball a lot further than the smaller guys. ... I think there should be some kind of an advantage for guys who work on hitting it far and getting that speed that's needed, so having a ball, like the same ball that everyone plays, there's going to be, you're going to have more of an advantage."

Speaking Wednesday in Abu Dhabi, Johnson stood by the notion that regardless of whether the rules change or stay the same, he plans to have a leg up on the competition.

"If the ball is limited then it is going to limit everyone," he said. "I'm still going to hit it that much further than I guess the average Tour player."

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LPGA lists April date for new LA event

By Golf Channel DigitalJanuary 17, 2018, 8:18 pm

The LPGA’s return to Los Angeles will come with the new Hugel-JTBC Open being played at Wilshire Country Club April 19-22, the tour announced Wednesday.

When the LPGA originally released its schedule, it listed the Los Angeles event with the site to be announced at a later date.

The Hugel-JTBC Open will feature a 144-player field and a $1.5 million purse. It expands the tour’s West Coast swing, which will now be made up of four events in California in March and April.

The LPGA last played in Los Angeles in 2005. Wilshire Country Club hosted The Office Depot in 2001, with Annika Sorenstam winning there.