Golf Talk Live - Bernard Gallacher Transcript Segment 2
IN '69 WHEN YOU WERE 20 YEARS OLD AND THREE MONTHS, YOU WON WHAT WAS CALLED THE SCHWEPPES OR WHAT WE THINK OF AS THE PGA CHAMPIONSHIP.
TODAY, THE MOST IMPORTANT TOURNAMENT ON THE EUROPEAN TOUR. HOW CRITICAL TO YOUR CONFIDENCE AND AS A SPRINGBOARD WAS THAT WIN FOR YOU THAT YEAR?
WELL IT WAS AN IMPORTANT TOURNAMENT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S LIKE EVERY GOLFER WHO TURNS PRO. YOU WANT TO WIN A GOLF TOURNAMENT BUT YOU'RE NEVER SURE IF YOU'RE UP TO IT AND, AND THAT PARTICULAR, I REMEMBER IT'S A BIG LONG GOLF COURSE IN ASHBURNIN IN WALES AND
THE WEATHER WAS POOR AS WELL MOST OF THE WEEK AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST HAD A GOOD WEEK, AND BUT, WHEN I GOT A CHANCE, COMING UP THE LAST, I KNEW I HAD TO MAKE A FOUR UP THE LAST TO WIN AND I WAS UP TO IT AND DID IT AND IT'S A BIG MOMENT BECAUSE AS I SAID YOU JUST DON'T
KNOW IF YOU'RE UP TO IT UNTIL YOU'VE PUT YOURSELF IN THAT POSITION AND THAT, THAT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT AND I THOUGHT WELL, THAT'S GOOD, I'M, I'M UP TO THIS. I CAN, I CAN HANG ON HERE, I CAN WIN TOURNAMENTS.
DID ANY TOURNAMENT THAT YOU EVER WON EVER MEAN MORE TO YOU THAN THAT PARTICULAR WIN?
NO, IT'S FUNNY YOU SHOULD SAY THAT AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TALK ABOUT RYDER CUPS AND WHAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR YOU IN GOLF, BUT THE MOST
IMPORTANT THING IS WINNING A GOLF TOURNAMENT. THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT. WINNING THE FIRST ONE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. THE MOST IMPORTANT GOLF TOURNAMENT.
NOW OF COURSE THAT WAS THE YEAR THAT YOU WON TWICE IN AFRICA, YOU WON TWICE ON TOUR IN EUROPE. YOU WERE, YOU MADE YOUR FIRST RYDER CUP TEAM. YOU WERE SELECTED TO PLAY FOR SCOTLAND IN THE WORLD CUP. DID YOU NOT START TO
SECRETLY THINK, WAIT A MINUTE, IF I'M THIS GOOD NOW AT 20, BOY WHAT AM I GOING TO BE LIKE WHEN I'M 23 OR 24? NO THOUGHTS OF GETTING OUTSIDE OF GREAT BRITAIN AT THAT POINT AND CONQUERING THE WORLD?
WELL, I, I ALWAYS CONSIDERED MYSELF A BRITISH GOLFER. I KNOW PEOPLE WERE, I KNOW BRIAN BARNES WANTED TO GO AND PLAY AND, IN AMERICA AND TONY JACKLIN WAS PLAYING IN AMERICA AT THAT TIME, AND, AND TONY PUT DOWN HIS WINNING THE
BRITISH OPEN IN '69 THROUGH HIS TRAINING ON THE AMERICAN TOUR, BUT I NEVER REALLY HAD ANY AMBITION ABOUT PLAYING IN AMERICA BECAUSE I, I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO LEAVE HOME AND I FELT I WAS ALWAYS COMFORTABLE GOING HOME ON A
SUNDAY NIGHT AND, WHERE AS IN AMERICA, YOU COULDN'T REALLY PLAY IN AMERICA UNLESS YOU'RE FULLY COMMITTED TO COMING OVER HERE AND LIVING OVER IN AMERICA AND PLAYING ON THE TOUR AND IT'S SOMETHING DEEP DOWN I DIDN'T WANT TO DO.
NOW OF COURSE THE YEAR BEFORE IN '68, TONY WON IN JACKSONVILLE HERE
IN THE UNITED STATES. WINS THE OPEN IN '69. WHAT, WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO SOMEONE WHO CAME FROM A SIMILAR BACKGROUND, WAS ONLY A FEW YEARS OLDER
WINNING THE OPEN CHAMPIONSHIP THAT PARTICULAR YEAR. THAT IN YOUR, ESSENTIALLY START OF WINNING TOURNAMENTS IN GOLF.
YEAH WELL I CAN REMEMBER DISTINCTLY BECAUSE I WAS REALLY ANNOYED THAT TONY WON BECAUSE THERE WAS SUCH A BUILD UP WHO WAS GOING TO BE THE FIRST BRITISH GOLFER TO WIN THE OPEN SINCE MAX FALTON HAD WON IN 1953.
BECAUSE WE HAD ALL THE PETER THOMPSONS AND BOBBY LOCKES AND THEN ARNOLD PALMER DOMINATED AND GARY PLAYER DOMINATED AND BY THE TIME 1969 CAME ALONG, THERE WERE STILL NO BRITISH GOLFER SINCE MAX FOLTEN IN '53 HAD WON THE BRITISH OPEN.
WASN'T MAX '51?
WELL '51 EVEN, YEAH, MAKES IT EVEN BETTER AND YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO WIN THAT OPEN AT ROYAL LITHUM AND... SO BUT ONCE I HAD COOLED DOWN I THOUGHT WELL THAT'S GOOD AT LEAST TONY JACKLIN'S WON AND YOU KNOW
TOURNAMENT ANNOUNCER IN BACKGROUND (MALE):
THERE IS TONY JACKLIN(UNINTELLIGIBLE) 72 AND 280
TONY WAS A GREAT PLAYER IN THOSE DAYS AND HE STOOD OUT ON THE 18TH TEE ON THE 72ND HOLE PLAYING WITH BOB CHARLES AND BOB CHARLES OF COURSE HAD ALREADY WON THE OPEN AT LITHUM IN A PLAYOFF WITH PHIL ROGERS AND TONY MADE THE MOST TERRIFIC DRIVE
DOWN THAT LAST HOLE AND YOU KNOW I WANTED TO DO THAT, I WANTED TO TRY THAT BUT WATCHING TONY IT WAS GREAT THAT HE DID IT. AT LEAST HE DID IT, AND HE, HE WAS A BRITISH GOLFER WHO DID IT. IT WAS A BIG MOMENT FOR, FOR BRITISH GOLF WHEN HE WON THAT OPEN.
WAS IT TRUE THAT GARY PLAYER AND COMMENTING ABOUT YOUR GRIP IN 1969 SAID IT'S ONE OF THE WORST GRIPS I'VE EVER SEEN. WAS THAT A FAIR COMMENT AT THE TIME BY
WELL IT WAS, YEAH IN, IN '69 I PLAYED IN THE FIRST ROUND WITH GARY PLAYER IN THAT OPEN CHAMPIONSHIP. THAT WAS AN OPEN CHAMPIONSHIP. I FELT I HAD A GOOD CHANCE OF WINNING BECAUSE I'D HAD A GOOD YEAR AND I WAS PLAYING WELL AND I WAS PICKED WITH GARY AND, YOU KNOW I PLAYED A GREAT FIRST
ROUND. I HAD 70 IN THE FIRST ROUND AND GARY CAME IN AND HE SAID WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS A BIT BLOWN UP BY THE PRESS, YOU KNOW, I THINK GARY, GARY TENDS TO SPEAK IN EXTREMES AND HE SAID WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE WORST GRIP I'VE
SEEN, BUT HE WAS COMPLIMENTARY IN OTHER WAYS THAT WERE SORT OF DELETED FROM THE, FROM THE NEWSPAPER, BUT THEY PICKED ON WHAT HE SAID, BUT YOU KNOW HE WAS, HE WAS RIGHT. IT, IT WAS A, IT WAS A POOR GRIP, IT WAS A, IT WAS A VERY STRONG GRIP.
AND IT INSPIRED ME TO CHANGE MY GRIP AND I THINK I BECAME A BETTER STRIKER OF THE BALL, BUT AS I SAID TO YOU AT THE START OF THE PROGRAM, I'VE ALWAYS FOUGHT, FOUGHT MY METHODS
BECAUSE OF NOT HAVING THE TUITION AT THE START OF MY GOLFING CAREER.
NOW GARY, LAST TIME HE WAS HERE TOLD US THAT HE ALWAYS EXAGGERATES BY TEN
(LAUGHING) YEAH. THERE YOU GO.
SO YOU SHOULDN'T FEEL BAD.
YEAH, NO, WELL THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH, SO I DIDN'T FEEL BAD AT ALL, BUT GARY WAS MY HERO AND IT WAS, AT THE TIME IT WAS A SHOCK TO BE CRITICIZED BY THE PERSON YOU PROBABLY ADMIRED THE MOST IN THE WORLD.
HE HAD A STRONG GRIP WHEN HE FIRST
STARTED AND MAYBE THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS HE PICKED
UP ON YOURS.
YEAH WELL I THINK THAT'S RIGHT, YEAH. HE WAS TRYING TO BE HELPFUL.
A WRITER SAID ABOUT YOU AND THAT YOUR 69 THAT YOU HAD THE ODD FLASH OF TEMPER THAT YOU COULD GET ANGRY IN PUBLIC AND THAT YOU WEREN'T AS EVEN GOING AS PEOPLE HAVE GENERALLY THOUGHT OF YOU OVER THE YEARS.
WAS THAT TRUE OF YOU AT THE TIME? WERE YOU A LITTLE TEMPERAMENTAL?
WELL I THINK I WAS ANGRY, YEAH. I GOT ANGRY WITH BAD SHOTS BUT I ALWAYS, I ALWAYS TRIED TO IMPROVE MY TEMPERAMENT. IN FACT ONE OF MY HEROES WAS BOB CHARLES. I ALWAYS FELT BOB CHARLES HAD THE PERFECT TEMPERAMENT. YOU NEVER KNEW IF YOU LOOKED AT BOB ON THE GOLF COURSE AND THE SAME TODAY, YOU DON'T KNOW
WHETHER HE'S 5 UNDER PAR OR 5 OVER PAR AND I WANTED TO BE LIKE BOB CHARLES. EVERY NOW AND AGAIN I FELT LIKE BERNHARD GALLAGHER. IF I HIT A BAD SHOT I WOULD BANG THE CLUB DOWN BUT YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS WORKED ON MY, ON MY TEMPERAMENT,
AND BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY IDEA TO KEEP COOL AND COLLECTED UNDER PRESSURE. NOT TO GET CARRIED AWAY WITH THE EMOTION OF THE OCCASION, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU
KNOW, YOU MIGHT NOT WIN ALL THE TIME, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED IN ORDER TO GET TO THE TOP IN GOLF AND WIN GOLF TOURNAMENTS I THINK.
THAT SAME WRITER SAID ABOUT YOU THAT YOU WEREN'T AFRAID TO WIN AND THAT YOU HAD THE CONFIDENCE TO CLOSE WHEN YOU WERE IN CONTENTION. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE SOURCE OF
YOUR EARLY CONFIDENCE WAS THAT ALLOWED YOU TO FEEL LIKE YOU WANTED TO GO GET IT AND THAT YOU COULD GO MAKE IT HAPPEN?
WELL I DON'T KNOW IT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE BORN WITH, I THINK. THERE'S THIS COMPETITIVE SPIRIT, COMPETITIVE EDGE. I MEAN, I, I'VE HAD IT WHEN I USED TO DO A LOT OF RUNNING AT SCHOOL, CROSS COUNTRY RUNNING. I USED TO BE, DO MILE RUNNING, I USED TO GET ANNOYED WITH MYSELF IF SOMEBODY BEAT ME. I USED TO GO OUT THERE AND I
LIKED TO BE IN FRONT ALL THE TIME AND WHEN I WAS IN FRONT I HAD THIS PRIDE. I FELT TERRIBLE INSIDE BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO SHOW PEOPLE AND I KEPT GOING AND I CARRIED IT ON INTO, INTO GOLF AND IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN'T LEARN. I MEAN, YOU, YOU IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN'T
PICK UP IN A GOLF BOOK AND LEARN. YOU CAN BE TAUGHT A GREAT METHOD, YOU CAN BE TAUGHT A GREAT SWING, YOU CAN BE TAUGHT TO DO THE RIGHT THING BUT UNDER PRESSURE YOU CAN'T TEACH SOMEONE TO BE A WINNER. HE'S GOT TO BE A WINNER. YOU'RE BORN WITH IT.
I'M AFR... I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING YOU EITHER HAVE OR YOU HAVEN'T.
WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK WITH BERNARD GALLACHER. DON'T GO AWAY.
Spieth, Thomas headline winter break trip to Cabo
Justin Thomas and Jordan Spieth. Really good at golf. Really good at vacationing.
With #SB2K18 still months away, Thomas and Spieth headlined a vacation to Cabo San Lucas, and this will shock you but it looks like they had a great time.
Spring break veteran Smylie Kaufman joined the party, as did Thomas' roommate, Tom Lovelady, who continued his shirtless trend.
The gang played all the hits, including shoeless golf in baketball jerseys and late nights with Casamigos tequila.
In conclusion, it's still good to be these guys.
Awards season: Handing out the 2017 Rexys
After careful consideration and an exhaustive review of 2017 we present The Rexys, a wildly incomplete and arbitrary line up following one of the most eventful years in golf.
There will be omissions – just keep your calls, concerns and even e-mails to yourself. We appreciate your patronage, but not your feedback.
It’s Not You, It’s Me Award. You know the deal: You can’t be a part of two until you’re a better one; but on this front it’s really just a desire to find a better two.
It was a tough year for caddies, and not just any caddies. In June, Phil Mickelson split with longtime bagman Jim “Bones” Mackay. Both player and caddie cited the need for “change,” but the move reverberated throughout the game.
“The fairytale is over,” mused one caddie when told of the high-profile split.
In the wake of the Lefty/Bones break, Rory McIlroy split with his caddie J.P Fitzgerald, and Jason Day replaced looper/swing coach Colin Swatton on his bag. It all proves yet again that there are only two kinds of caddies, those who have been fired and those who are about to be fired.
Run for the Rose Cup. Sergio Garcia got the green jacket, a lifetime exemption to the game’s most coveted member-member and a long-awaited major, but Justin Rose took home the slightly less prestigious “Rose Cup.”
Following a frenzied afternoon at Augusta National in April, Rose lost to Garcia on the first playoff hole, but he won so much more with his honesty and class.
“You're going to win majors and you're going to lose majors, but you've got to be willing to lose them,” Rose figured following the final round. “You've got to put yourself out there. You've got to hit the top of the leaderboard. There's a lot of pressure out there and if you're not willing to enjoy it, then you're not ready to win these tournaments. I loved it out there.”
Few have made losing look so dignified and fewer still are as easy to root for.
Half-Empty Cup. It was the perfect setting, with sweeping views of the Manhattan skyline and the promise of the Tristate masses descending on this fall’s Presidents Cup.
If only all those rowdy New Yorkers had something to cheer.
For the sixth time in the last seven matches, the U.S. team rolled to a victory of at least three points. This particular edition was even in danger of ending on Saturday afternoon thanks to a particularly dominant performance by a young American squad led by Steve Stricker.
Officials spoke of the purity of the competition and the attention the ’17 cup generated, but however you spin the 19-11 rout, this cup is half empty.
Enigma Award. The actual hardware is simply an oversized question mark and was sent directly to Tiger Woods’ South Florida compound following the most curious of seasons.
While it’s become customary in recent years to consider the uncertain path that awaits the 14-time major winner, this most recent calendar brought an entirely new collection of questions following fusion surgery on his lower back in April, his arrest for DUI on Memorial Day and, finally, a glimmer of hope born from his tie for ninth at the Hero World Challenge earlier this month.
When will he play again? Can he compete against the current generation of world-beaters? Can his body withstand the rigors of a full PGA Tour schedule? Should Jim Furyk make him a captain’s pick now or wait to see if he should be driving a vice captain’s golf cart instead?
Little is certain when it comes to Woods, and the over-sized question mark goes to ... the guy in red and black.
After Further Review Chalice. In April, Lexi Thompson endured a heartbreaking loss at the ANA Inspiration, the byproduct of a surreal ruling that arrived a day late via a viewer e-mail and cost the would-be winner a major championship.
The entire event was so unsavory that the USGA and R&A made not one but two alterations to the rules and created a “working group” to avoid similar snafus in the future.
That working group – it turns out the U.S. Ryder Cup team has some sort of copyright on “task force” – initially issued a decision that introduced a “reasonable judgment” and a “naked eye” standard to video reviews, and last week the rule makers kept the changes coming.
The new protocols on video review will now include an official to monitor tournament broadcasts and ended the practice of allowing fans to call in, or in this case e-mail, possible infractions to officials. The USGA and R&A also eliminated the two-stroke penalty for players who sign incorrect scorecards when the player is unaware of the penalty.
While all this might be a step in the right direction, it does nothing to change Thompson’s fate. The AFR Chalice won’t change the harsh reality, but at least it will serve as a reminder of how she helped altered the rulemaking landscape.
Nothing Runs Like a Deere Award. Nothing gets fans fired up like officials turning fields of fescue rough into hay on the eve of a major championship, and the USGA’s decision to do some 11th-hour trimming at Erin Hills in June certainly caught many by surprise.
Officials said the nip/tuck on four holes was in reaction to a particularly foreboding forecast that never materialized, and the maintenance drew the ire of some players.
“We have 60 yards from left line to right line,” Rory McIlroy said. “You’ve got 156 of the best players in the world here; if we can’t hit it within that avenue, you might as well pack your bags and go home.”
The record low scoring at the U.S. Open – winner Brooks Koepka finished with a 16-under total – didn’t help ease the fervor and had some questioning whether the softer side of the USGA has gone a bit too far?
Podcast: Daly takes big pride in 'Little John'
John Daly is a two-time major champion, but the newest trophy in his household belongs to someone else.
That’s because Daly’s son, 14-year-old Little John “LJ” Daly, rallied to capture an IJGT junior golf event over the weekend. The younger Daly birdied the first extra hole to win a five-person playoff at Harbour Town Golf Links, site of the PGA Tour’s RBC Heritage.
Daly recently sat down for a Golf Channel podcast to describe what it’s like to cheer for his son and PNC Father-Son Challenge partner, share the unique challenge presented by the upcoming Diamond Resorts Invitational and reflect on some of the notable highs of a career that has now spanned more than 25 years.
Sneds starts slowly in Masters invite bid
Brandt Snedeker flew halfway around the world in search of a Masters invite, but after one round of the Indonesian Masters it appears he'll likely return home empty-handed.
Snedeker made only two birdies during his opening round in Indonesia, shooting an even-par 72 that left him in a tie for 77th and 10 shots behind leader Justin Rose. This is the final OWGR-rated event of 2017, and as a result it has drawn several notable entrants, including Snedeker, who hope to crack the top 50 in the world rankings by year's end to secure a trip to Augusta National.
Snedeker started the year ranked No. 28, but after missing five months because of injury he entered the week ranked No. 51 and is projected to slip even further by the end of the month. As a result, he likely needs a top-3 finish in order to secure a return to the Masters, which he has missed only once since 2007.
World No. 55 Dylan Frittelli also struggled, shooting a 4-over 76 in the opening round, while No. 56 Kiradech Aphibarnrat is tied for 14th at 4 under. Yusaku Miyazato, currently 58th in the world, is tied for ninth and five shots behind Rose.
Should Snedeker and the other hopefuls fail to crack the top 50 by the end of the year, two paths to the Masters remain: win a full-point event on the PGA Tour in early 2018 or be inside the top 50 in the world rankings when the final cutoff is made on March 25.