Golf Talk Live - Bernard Gallacher Transcript Segment 2
IN '69 WHEN YOU WERE 20 YEARS OLD AND THREE MONTHS, YOU WON WHAT WAS CALLED THE SCHWEPPES OR WHAT WE THINK OF AS THE PGA CHAMPIONSHIP.
TODAY, THE MOST IMPORTANT TOURNAMENT ON THE EUROPEAN TOUR. HOW CRITICAL TO YOUR CONFIDENCE AND AS A SPRINGBOARD WAS THAT WIN FOR YOU THAT YEAR?
WELL IT WAS AN IMPORTANT TOURNAMENT BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S LIKE EVERY GOLFER WHO TURNS PRO. YOU WANT TO WIN A GOLF TOURNAMENT BUT YOU'RE NEVER SURE IF YOU'RE UP TO IT AND, AND THAT PARTICULAR, I REMEMBER IT'S A BIG LONG GOLF COURSE IN ASHBURNIN IN WALES AND
THE WEATHER WAS POOR AS WELL MOST OF THE WEEK AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST HAD A GOOD WEEK, AND BUT, WHEN I GOT A CHANCE, COMING UP THE LAST, I KNEW I HAD TO MAKE A FOUR UP THE LAST TO WIN AND I WAS UP TO IT AND DID IT AND IT'S A BIG MOMENT BECAUSE AS I SAID YOU JUST DON'T
KNOW IF YOU'RE UP TO IT UNTIL YOU'VE PUT YOURSELF IN THAT POSITION AND THAT, THAT'S, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT AND I THOUGHT WELL, THAT'S GOOD, I'M, I'M UP TO THIS. I CAN, I CAN HANG ON HERE, I CAN WIN TOURNAMENTS.
DID ANY TOURNAMENT THAT YOU EVER WON EVER MEAN MORE TO YOU THAN THAT PARTICULAR WIN?
NO, IT'S FUNNY YOU SHOULD SAY THAT AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TALK ABOUT RYDER CUPS AND WHAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR YOU IN GOLF, BUT THE MOST
IMPORTANT THING IS WINNING A GOLF TOURNAMENT. THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT. WINNING THE FIRST ONE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. THE MOST IMPORTANT GOLF TOURNAMENT.
NOW OF COURSE THAT WAS THE YEAR THAT YOU WON TWICE IN AFRICA, YOU WON TWICE ON TOUR IN EUROPE. YOU WERE, YOU MADE YOUR FIRST RYDER CUP TEAM. YOU WERE SELECTED TO PLAY FOR SCOTLAND IN THE WORLD CUP. DID YOU NOT START TO
SECRETLY THINK, WAIT A MINUTE, IF I'M THIS GOOD NOW AT 20, BOY WHAT AM I GOING TO BE LIKE WHEN I'M 23 OR 24? NO THOUGHTS OF GETTING OUTSIDE OF GREAT BRITAIN AT THAT POINT AND CONQUERING THE WORLD?
WELL, I, I ALWAYS CONSIDERED MYSELF A BRITISH GOLFER. I KNOW PEOPLE WERE, I KNOW BRIAN BARNES WANTED TO GO AND PLAY AND, IN AMERICA AND TONY JACKLIN WAS PLAYING IN AMERICA AT THAT TIME, AND, AND TONY PUT DOWN HIS WINNING THE
BRITISH OPEN IN '69 THROUGH HIS TRAINING ON THE AMERICAN TOUR, BUT I NEVER REALLY HAD ANY AMBITION ABOUT PLAYING IN AMERICA BECAUSE I, I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO LEAVE HOME AND I FELT I WAS ALWAYS COMFORTABLE GOING HOME ON A
SUNDAY NIGHT AND, WHERE AS IN AMERICA, YOU COULDN'T REALLY PLAY IN AMERICA UNLESS YOU'RE FULLY COMMITTED TO COMING OVER HERE AND LIVING OVER IN AMERICA AND PLAYING ON THE TOUR AND IT'S SOMETHING DEEP DOWN I DIDN'T WANT TO DO.
NOW OF COURSE THE YEAR BEFORE IN '68, TONY WON IN JACKSONVILLE HERE
IN THE UNITED STATES. WINS THE OPEN IN '69. WHAT, WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO SOMEONE WHO CAME FROM A SIMILAR BACKGROUND, WAS ONLY A FEW YEARS OLDER
WINNING THE OPEN CHAMPIONSHIP THAT PARTICULAR YEAR. THAT IN YOUR, ESSENTIALLY START OF WINNING TOURNAMENTS IN GOLF.
YEAH WELL I CAN REMEMBER DISTINCTLY BECAUSE I WAS REALLY ANNOYED THAT TONY WON BECAUSE THERE WAS SUCH A BUILD UP WHO WAS GOING TO BE THE FIRST BRITISH GOLFER TO WIN THE OPEN SINCE MAX FALTON HAD WON IN 1953.
BECAUSE WE HAD ALL THE PETER THOMPSONS AND BOBBY LOCKES AND THEN ARNOLD PALMER DOMINATED AND GARY PLAYER DOMINATED AND BY THE TIME 1969 CAME ALONG, THERE WERE STILL NO BRITISH GOLFER SINCE MAX FOLTEN IN '53 HAD WON THE BRITISH OPEN.
WASN'T MAX '51?
WELL '51 EVEN, YEAH, MAKES IT EVEN BETTER AND YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO WIN THAT OPEN AT ROYAL LITHUM AND... SO BUT ONCE I HAD COOLED DOWN I THOUGHT WELL THAT'S GOOD AT LEAST TONY JACKLIN'S WON AND YOU KNOW
TOURNAMENT ANNOUNCER IN BACKGROUND (MALE):
THERE IS TONY JACKLIN(UNINTELLIGIBLE) 72 AND 280
TONY WAS A GREAT PLAYER IN THOSE DAYS AND HE STOOD OUT ON THE 18TH TEE ON THE 72ND HOLE PLAYING WITH BOB CHARLES AND BOB CHARLES OF COURSE HAD ALREADY WON THE OPEN AT LITHUM IN A PLAYOFF WITH PHIL ROGERS AND TONY MADE THE MOST TERRIFIC DRIVE
DOWN THAT LAST HOLE AND YOU KNOW I WANTED TO DO THAT, I WANTED TO TRY THAT BUT WATCHING TONY IT WAS GREAT THAT HE DID IT. AT LEAST HE DID IT, AND HE, HE WAS A BRITISH GOLFER WHO DID IT. IT WAS A BIG MOMENT FOR, FOR BRITISH GOLF WHEN HE WON THAT OPEN.
WAS IT TRUE THAT GARY PLAYER AND COMMENTING ABOUT YOUR GRIP IN 1969 SAID IT'S ONE OF THE WORST GRIPS I'VE EVER SEEN. WAS THAT A FAIR COMMENT AT THE TIME BY
WELL IT WAS, YEAH IN, IN '69 I PLAYED IN THE FIRST ROUND WITH GARY PLAYER IN THAT OPEN CHAMPIONSHIP. THAT WAS AN OPEN CHAMPIONSHIP. I FELT I HAD A GOOD CHANCE OF WINNING BECAUSE I'D HAD A GOOD YEAR AND I WAS PLAYING WELL AND I WAS PICKED WITH GARY AND, YOU KNOW I PLAYED A GREAT FIRST
ROUND. I HAD 70 IN THE FIRST ROUND AND GARY CAME IN AND HE SAID WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WAS A BIT BLOWN UP BY THE PRESS, YOU KNOW, I THINK GARY, GARY TENDS TO SPEAK IN EXTREMES AND HE SAID WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE WORST GRIP I'VE
SEEN, BUT HE WAS COMPLIMENTARY IN OTHER WAYS THAT WERE SORT OF DELETED FROM THE, FROM THE NEWSPAPER, BUT THEY PICKED ON WHAT HE SAID, BUT YOU KNOW HE WAS, HE WAS RIGHT. IT, IT WAS A, IT WAS A POOR GRIP, IT WAS A, IT WAS A VERY STRONG GRIP.
AND IT INSPIRED ME TO CHANGE MY GRIP AND I THINK I BECAME A BETTER STRIKER OF THE BALL, BUT AS I SAID TO YOU AT THE START OF THE PROGRAM, I'VE ALWAYS FOUGHT, FOUGHT MY METHODS
BECAUSE OF NOT HAVING THE TUITION AT THE START OF MY GOLFING CAREER.
NOW GARY, LAST TIME HE WAS HERE TOLD US THAT HE ALWAYS EXAGGERATES BY TEN
(LAUGHING) YEAH. THERE YOU GO.
SO YOU SHOULDN'T FEEL BAD.
YEAH, NO, WELL THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH, SO I DIDN'T FEEL BAD AT ALL, BUT GARY WAS MY HERO AND IT WAS, AT THE TIME IT WAS A SHOCK TO BE CRITICIZED BY THE PERSON YOU PROBABLY ADMIRED THE MOST IN THE WORLD.
HE HAD A STRONG GRIP WHEN HE FIRST
STARTED AND MAYBE THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS HE PICKED
UP ON YOURS.
YEAH WELL I THINK THAT'S RIGHT, YEAH. HE WAS TRYING TO BE HELPFUL.
A WRITER SAID ABOUT YOU AND THAT YOUR 69 THAT YOU HAD THE ODD FLASH OF TEMPER THAT YOU COULD GET ANGRY IN PUBLIC AND THAT YOU WEREN'T AS EVEN GOING AS PEOPLE HAVE GENERALLY THOUGHT OF YOU OVER THE YEARS.
WAS THAT TRUE OF YOU AT THE TIME? WERE YOU A LITTLE TEMPERAMENTAL?
WELL I THINK I WAS ANGRY, YEAH. I GOT ANGRY WITH BAD SHOTS BUT I ALWAYS, I ALWAYS TRIED TO IMPROVE MY TEMPERAMENT. IN FACT ONE OF MY HEROES WAS BOB CHARLES. I ALWAYS FELT BOB CHARLES HAD THE PERFECT TEMPERAMENT. YOU NEVER KNEW IF YOU LOOKED AT BOB ON THE GOLF COURSE AND THE SAME TODAY, YOU DON'T KNOW
WHETHER HE'S 5 UNDER PAR OR 5 OVER PAR AND I WANTED TO BE LIKE BOB CHARLES. EVERY NOW AND AGAIN I FELT LIKE BERNHARD GALLAGHER. IF I HIT A BAD SHOT I WOULD BANG THE CLUB DOWN BUT YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS WORKED ON MY, ON MY TEMPERAMENT,
AND BUT IT'S ALWAYS BEEN MY IDEA TO KEEP COOL AND COLLECTED UNDER PRESSURE. NOT TO GET CARRIED AWAY WITH THE EMOTION OF THE OCCASION, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU
KNOW, YOU MIGHT NOT WIN ALL THE TIME, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED IN ORDER TO GET TO THE TOP IN GOLF AND WIN GOLF TOURNAMENTS I THINK.
THAT SAME WRITER SAID ABOUT YOU THAT YOU WEREN'T AFRAID TO WIN AND THAT YOU HAD THE CONFIDENCE TO CLOSE WHEN YOU WERE IN CONTENTION. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE SOURCE OF
YOUR EARLY CONFIDENCE WAS THAT ALLOWED YOU TO FEEL LIKE YOU WANTED TO GO GET IT AND THAT YOU COULD GO MAKE IT HAPPEN?
WELL I DON'T KNOW IT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE BORN WITH, I THINK. THERE'S THIS COMPETITIVE SPIRIT, COMPETITIVE EDGE. I MEAN, I, I'VE HAD IT WHEN I USED TO DO A LOT OF RUNNING AT SCHOOL, CROSS COUNTRY RUNNING. I USED TO BE, DO MILE RUNNING, I USED TO GET ANNOYED WITH MYSELF IF SOMEBODY BEAT ME. I USED TO GO OUT THERE AND I
LIKED TO BE IN FRONT ALL THE TIME AND WHEN I WAS IN FRONT I HAD THIS PRIDE. I FELT TERRIBLE INSIDE BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO SHOW PEOPLE AND I KEPT GOING AND I CARRIED IT ON INTO, INTO GOLF AND IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN'T LEARN. I MEAN, YOU, YOU IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN'T
PICK UP IN A GOLF BOOK AND LEARN. YOU CAN BE TAUGHT A GREAT METHOD, YOU CAN BE TAUGHT A GREAT SWING, YOU CAN BE TAUGHT TO DO THE RIGHT THING BUT UNDER PRESSURE YOU CAN'T TEACH SOMEONE TO BE A WINNER. HE'S GOT TO BE A WINNER. YOU'RE BORN WITH IT.
I'M AFR... I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING YOU EITHER HAVE OR YOU HAVEN'T.
WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK WITH BERNARD GALLACHER. DON'T GO AWAY.
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Hahn jabs USGA over possible ball rollback
As debate continues to heat up over possible sweeping changes to the golf ball amid distance concerns, PGA Tour pro James Hahn chimed in to question the merits of a potential rollback.
The ball and distance debate gained traction earlier this week when Jack Nicklaus offered that the ball should be rolled back to the approximate distances achieved in 1995, and he put blame for the current situation squarely at the feet of Titleist. That drew a response from former Titleist CEO Wally Uihlein, who put the onus back on the governing bodies.
It's an issue that will likely be discussed for months to come, but Hahn took to Twitter to throw a jab toward the USGA and play devil's advocate on some key arguments related to a possible rollback:
Breaking news. In addition to limited flight balls, the USGA plans to ban working out, proper diet and swinging faster than 105mph. They are also planning on removing the 3 point shot in the NBA.— James Hahn (@JamesHahnPGA) February 23, 2018
If we were playing a match, would you rather hit 7 iron to my 9 iron OR hit hybrid to my 5 iron? Oh and by the way, I can still hit par 5s in two with 3 wood. You can't.— James Hahn (@JamesHahnPGA) February 25, 2018
Hahn, who has two career PGA Tour wins and lost in a playoff last month at the Sony Open, ranks 55th on Tour this season in driving distance with an average of 301.2 yards off the tee.
Na fires back over slow play criticism from cricketer
Kevin Na fired back over recent criticism he received about his purported slow play at last week's Genesis Open.
Kevin Pietersen is a retired English cricketer with more than 3.6 million followers on Twitter. He tweeted a video of Na, known as one of the slower players on the PGA Tour, taking more than a minute to line up and hit what he described as a "Tap In" during the final round at Riviera:
SERIOUSLY, Kevin Na?!?!— Kevin Pietersen (@KP24) February 18, 2018
That Is A Tap In, MATE! pic.twitter.com/YMmNT6m5H7
He then added another video of himself on a green in Dubai, where he again called out Na and showed how long he believed it should take for a player to brush in a short putt:
Na has faced his fair share of slow play criticism, but this time he decided to defend himself. Na isn't on Twitter, but he took to Instagram to tell Pietersen to "stick to your own sport," pointing out both the length of the putt in question and the stakes that were involved during the final round, when Na went on to tie for second behind Bubba Watson:
@kp24 lets get some facts straight. Shot tracker shows what u call “tap in” 3ft 4in. Since when is 3’4’’ on green speed 12 a “tap in.” FYI 1 shot for me on Sunday was 300k. Difference between T2 and T4. Yes, I did back off because the line didn’t feel right. So what! BTW that was the only putt I backed off all day. Also our group was on pace all day! We waited if anything. @pgatour @golfdigest @golf_com @golfchannel #getyourfactstraight #sticktoyourownsport #everyshotcounts
Pepperell wins his first European Tour title in Qatar
DOHA, Qatar - Eddie Pepperell survived a tense finish to win the Qatar Masters at the Doha Golf Club on Sunday for his maiden European Tour title.
The 27-year-old Englishman held off a spirited challenge from compatriot Oliver Fisher, who needed a third successive birdie on the 18th hole to force a playoff, but had his putt from six feet slip past the hole for a par.
Pepperell shot a 2-under-par 70 for a four-day tally of 18 under 270, while Fisher, who started the day tied for the lead, could only manage a 71.
Sweden's Marcus Kinhult (68) finished third at 16-under.
The No. 154-ranked Pepperell made things difficult for himself with a bogey on the 15th hole, but hit a superb wedge to three feet on the next to get back to 18 under again.
Fisher, who appeared to have fallen out of contention with three bogeys starting on the third hole, stormed back with birdies on the 14th, 16th and 17th holes.
On the last, Pepperell laid up with his second into the thick rough, made wet and unwieldy by rain in the Qatar capital, but found the green in three and two-putted for the win when Fisher missed his birdie putt.
''I did the things I needed to do, I didn't play fantastic but I won ugly and for the first win to be ugly is good. Hopefully, I'll have some prettier ones in the future,'' said Pepperell.
''I knew I was playing well, especially tee to green, so I expected a lot of myself this week and I guess to pull it off is amazing. When Oli birdied the 17th, that was when it really caught up with me that I was only one ahead. I was in my own zone, I knew I had a couple of shots of lead but Oli did great. It was a tough front nine for him and I had to stay right in my own way and out of the two guys' way because they were struggling a bit and it's sometimes easy to get dragged into that.''
Fisher was disappointed, but saw the silver lining in the way he fought back.
''It went all the way to the last hole which, after my front nine, was what I was hoping for on the back nine,'' said Fisher, who won the 2011 Czech Open, but recorded his first top-three finish since the 2014 Africa Open.
''I hit a lot of good shots coming down the back nine and gave myself a lot of good chances, but there were just too many bogeys today, four in total, so you're never going to win a tournament making that many mistakes on a Sunday. But at least I pressed him all the way.''
Italian Renato Paratore (66) had the low round of the day and finished tied for fourth place at 15 under par, where he was joined by the Spanish pair of Gonzalo Fernandez-Castano and Pablo Larrazabal along with Gregory Havret of France.