Golf Talk Live - Bernard Gallacher Transcript Segment 3
YOU KNOW LONG BEFORE THERE WERE WARS AT THE SHORES AND, AND PEOPLE JUMPING UP AND DOWN ON GREENS, THERE WAS THE DAVE HILL - KEN STILL
MATCH OF 1969 THAT YOU WERE INVOLVED IN. TELL US ABOUT THE 7TH AND 8TH HOLES.
WELL IT WAS ERIC BROWN, OUR CAPTAIN HAD US REALLY WOUN... WELL HAD ME AT LEAST WOUND UP ALL WEEK, YOU KNOW, GO OUT, GO AND GET THEM, AND BRIAN HUGGIT WAS REALLY TEMPERAMENTALLY
QUITE AGGRESSIVE AS WELL, AND WE
PLAYED IN A FOUR BALL MATCH AGAINST DAVE HILL AND KEN STILL AND IT REALLY STARTED ON THE FIRST GREEN AT ROYAL BIRKDALE, BECAUSE BRIAN HUGGIT HAD SOME SORT OF PUTT FOR THE WIN OR,
EV... MAYBE FOR THE HALVE, BUT HE SUDDENLY STOOD BACK FROM HIS PUTT AND LOOKED AROUND AT DAVE HILL AND SAID STOP WALKING AROUND WHEN I'M PUTTING BECAUSE DAVE HILL IN THOSE DAYS, HE WAS A SORT OF JUMPY SORT OF GUY. CHAIN SMOKER AND HE WASN'T
TRYING TO PUT US OFF, HE WOULD JUST SORT OF MOVE, JUST AGITATED AND READY TO GO, BUT, IT WOULDN'T HAVE UPSET ME BUT IT OBVIOUSLY UPSET BRIAN SO WE GOT OFF TO A BAD START, AND THEN ON THE 7TH HOLE DAVE PUTTED OUT OF TURN. HE JUST SIMPLY PUTTED OUT OF
TURN. HE ROLLED UP FROM 20, 20 FEET AWAY AND KNOCKED IT UP 2 FEET AWAY AND PROCEEDED TO PUTT OUT AND BRIAN HUGGIT SAID YOU CAN'T DO THAT. AND I LOOKED AND I WASN'T SURE WHAT YOU COULDN'T DO BECAUSE
I WAS QUIET YOUNG AND I SAID NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT. I WOULD SUPPORT MY PARTNER.... AND BRIAN SAID YOU PUTTED OUT OF TURN THERE, AND THE REFEREE, WE DIDN'T HAVE PROFESSIONAL REFEREES IN THOSE DAYS. WE HAD CLUB PROS, LIKE
BEING A CLUB PRO WALKING AROUND WITH A RULE BOOK, AND HE'S LOOKING THROUGH THIS RULE BOOK TRYING TO FIND THE RULE OF PUTTING OUT OF TURN IN A FOUR BALL AND HE COULDN'T FIND IT RIGHT AWAY, AND KEN STILL CHARGES ON
TO THE GREEN AND HE SAID IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU GUYS WANT TO PLAY THIS GAME TAKE THE HOLE, SO BRIAN AND I LOOKED AT EACH OTHER AND THINK WELL THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CONCESSION TO US
SO FINE WE PICKED OUR BALL UP AND WENT, THEN THE REFEREE FOUND THE RULE AND SAID REPLACE IT AND BRIAN HUGGIT SAID NO, HE SAID, HE, HE'S CONCEDED THE HOLE TO US AND SO THAT WAS IT. WE SUDDENLY GO ONE UP AND
YOU KNOW DAVE HILL AND KEN STILL ARE SO MAD AND SO ANGRY WITH US AND KEN STILL COULDN'T HAVE SHOT AFTER THAT BECAUSE HE WAS SO ANGRY AND DAVE HILL, WHO'S A GOOD SWINGER OF THE CLUB, A REALLY GOOD PLAYER, VERY
CORRECT, HE INSPIRED DAVE HILL, HE WAS REALLY, STARTED TO PLAY OUT OF HIS BOOTS NOW AND HE REALLY BEAT US ON HIS, ON HIS OWN. BRIAN HUGGIT AND I PLAYED PRETTY WELL AND THE CROWD WERE REALLY FOR US AND THE CROWD
WERE BOOING THEM, AND AS YOU, WHEN WE GOT ON THE 8TH FOR INSTANCE, I PUTTED DOWN, DICK KEN STILL PUTTED DOWN ABOUT SIX FEET AWAY BUT HE WAS INSIDE DAVE HILL'S PUTT. HE WAS LYING ABOUT SEVEN FEET AWAY SO I WENT ACROSS AND PICKED UP HIS BALL AND SAID YOU CAN HAVE THAT PUTT, BUT HE WANTED TO PUTT IT. HE SAID YOU CAN'T
DO THAT. I SAID YEAH I CAN GIVE YOU, I'VE JUST GIVEN YOU THE PUTT, BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT HIM TO PUTT IT AND SHOW
DAVID HILL THE LINE.
BUT HE GOT A BIT MIXED UP WITH THE PREVIOUS GREEN AND HE, KEN, KEN STILL, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS JUST HOPE, I JUST HOPE THAT SOME DAY WE MEET AGAIN. WE CAN SIT DOWN, HAVE A DRINK AND TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY,
THEY WERE REALLY VERY COMPETITIVE BACK THERE, BUT DAVE HILL, THERE'S NO HAPPY ENDING AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED BECAUSE DAVE HILL EAGLED THE 17TH TO BEAT US TWO AND ONE AND I
THINK IF THERE WAS A MORAL TO THIS STORY IS DON'T GET DAVE HILL MAD BECAUSE WHEN HE GETS MAD HE REALLY DOES PLAY GREAT.
AND OF COURSE THE NEXT YEAR HE GOT MAD BECAUSE HE DIDN'T LIKE THE HAZELTINE GOLF COURSE WHERE THE U.S OPEN WAS AND HE WON BY SEVEN SHOTS.
YEAH, WELL HE
BECAUSE HE WAS ANGRY.
HE'S IN, WELL, IN THOSE DAYS HE WAS AN ANGRY GUY. HE WAS IN, BRIAN HUGGIT AND I WERE PRETTY ANGRY TOO SO THERE WAS THREE ANGRY GUYS AND KEN STILL PLAYING, AND SO WHEN THEY TALK
ABOUT BOSTON AND THE WAR ON THE SHORE NOW, BACK IN '69 IT WAS,
YOU KNOW, IT WAS PRETTY, IT WAS A PRETTY FACIFEROUS ANGRY MATCH TOO.
IN '69, LEE TREVINO WAS AT THE TOP OF HIS GAME
HE WON THE U.S. OPEN THE YEAR BEFORE. TELL US THE SWEET MEMORIES YOU HAVE OF BEATING HIM IN SINGLES IN '69.
WELL PREV... IN THE PREVIOUS, EARLIER IN THE SUMMER I HAD PLAYED LEE TREVINO IN A MATCH IN SCOTLAND AGAINST ORVILLE MOODIE AND UH, WHO HAD WON THE U.S. OPEN THAT YEAR AND
I HAD, I HAD BEATEN THEM BOTH IN A MATCH, AN EXHIBITION MATCH IN SCOTLAND IN FRONT OF QUITE A LOT OF PEOPLE SO YOU KNOW I WASN'T, I WAS UP TO PLAYING THEM AND I HAD ERIC BROWN, OUR CAPTAIN HAD RESTED ME FROM THE MORNING SINGLES. IN THOSE DAYS WE PLAYED TWO SETS OF SINGLES
THE LAST DAY AND I WASN'T SURE IF I WAS GOING TO PLAY IN THE AFTERNOON, AND ERIC, QUITE RIGHTLY, AND THIS IS A GOOD CAPTAIN, HE KEPT ME ON, HE DIDN'T SAY I WAS PLAYING, HE DIDN'T SAY I WASN'T PLAYING, HE SAID JUST BE READY
IN CASE I NEED YOU AND ALL MORNING I WAS WAITING, AM I GOING TO PLAY AND I WAS DIEING TO GET OUT THERE AND PLAY AND HE SAID, RIGHT, YOU'RE PLAYING THIS AFTERNOON, YOU'RE PLAYING LEE TREVINO AND I START RUN ONTO THAT
TEE AND I, I DON'T REMEMBER BEING APPREHENSIVE. I, I JUST WANTED TO PUT A GOOD SHOW ON AND I RAN OUT FOUR AND THREE WINNERS WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT VICTORY FOR OUR TEAM AT THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT.
WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION THEN AND NOW TO WHAT IS ONE OF THE GREAT ACTS OF SPORTSMANSHIP EVER, JACK NICKLAUS CONCEDING TONY JACKLIN'S SHORT BUT MISABLE PUTT ON THE FINAL GREEN TO
ENSURE A TIE FOR THE MATCHES, RETENTION OF THE CUP FOR THE U.S. AND OF COURSE ONE OF THE YEARS THE U.S. KEPT THE CUP AND WERE NICE ENOUGH TO GIVE IT TO YOUR TEAM FOR THE OTHER YEAR BECAUSE OF THE TIE, NOT THAT
THAT EVER HAPPENED AGAIN
AND AS WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SITUATION NOW, WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION AT THE TIME AS YOU REMEMBER?
WELL MY REACTION WAS THAT JACK WAS GOING TO HOLE HIS AND IT GOES PAST AND OF COURSE JACK'S NOW GOT A TOUGH PUTT HIMSELF.
TOURNAMENT ANNOUNCER IN BACKGROUND SPEAKING SOFTLY DESCRIBING THE TOURNAMENT PLAY
29:35 THRU (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
I MEAN THAT IS A TOUGH PUTT. KNOCKS IT STRAIGHT IN, AND JACK
JACK IS ONE OF, JACK IS A GREAT GUY. TONY WOULD HAVE HOLED THAT PUTT, I'M CONVINCED OF THAT, BUT THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. LOOKING BACK, I WAS HAPPY THAT JACK GAVE HIM THAT. I WAS HAPPY FOR TONY JACKLIN.
AND TONY JACKLIN WAS OPEN CHAMPION AND JACK KNEW HE WAS GOING TO HOLE IT I THINK BUT HE WASN'T GOING TO TAKE THE CHANCE OF HIM MISSING IT, AND LOOKING BACK NOW IT
WAS THE DEAD RIGHT THING TO DO AND I JUST HOPE THAT IF THE OCCASION COMES TODAY THAT, THAT SOMEBODY'S ALLOWED TO DO THAT ON THE LAST GREEN. I JUST, THEY MAY NOT ALLOW HIM TO, TO GIVE A PUTT LIKE THAT ON THE
LAST GREEN TODAY IF IT MEANS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WINNING AND LOSING BUT, THAT, THAT'S JACK NICKLAUS, THAT'S WHY JACK NICKLAUS STANDS OUT TO MY MIND AS SOMEONE ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL TO EVERYBODY ELSE.
THAT'S WHY HE'S A GREAT PLAYER.
AND OF COURSE
SAM SNEAD WAS THE CAPTAIN OF THE U.S SIDE. HE'S STILL MAD.
OH YEAH. YEAH. HE'S STILL MAD. YEAH.
THAT JACK CONCEDED THE PUTT.
YEAH, YEAH, YEAH THAT JACK, HE WAS REALLY ANGRY. WE WERE TOLD THAT, THAT UH THAT JACK HAD TO STAND UP TO SAM AND SAY I'M SORRY SAM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I'M NOT SURE IF
THAT'S TRUE, BUT SAM SNEAD WAS A TOUGH, WAS TOUGH, GREAT PLAYER, BUT REALLY HARD MAN ON THE GOLF COURSE.
WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE RYDER CUP AS WE LEAVE YOU FOR JUST A MOMENT SOME RYDER CUP STATS AS THEY RELATE TO BERNARD. YOU CAN SEE THEM RIGHT THERE. WE'LL REJOIN YOU IN JUST A MOMENT.
Rory: Phil said RC task force just copied Europe
PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. – Playing the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am two weeks ago, Rory McIlroy quizzed Phil Mickelson about what the Americans got out of the U.S. Ryder Cup task force’s overhaul.
McIlroy and Mickelson were paired together at Pebble Beach.
“Basically, all they are doing is copying what the Europeans have done,” McIlroy said. “That's what he said.”
The Europeans claimed their sixth of seven Ryder Cups with their victory at Gleneagles in 2014. That brought about a sea change in the way the United States approached the Ryder Cup. Mickelson called out the tactics in Gleneagles of captain Tom Watson, who was outmaneuvered by European captain Paul McGinley.
The Americans defeated Europe at Hazeltine two years ago with that new European model.
“He said the first thing they did in that task force was Phil played a video, a 12-minute video of Paul McGinley to all of them,” McIlroy said. “So, they are copying what we do, and it's working for them. It's more cohesive, and the team and the core of that team are more in control of what they are doing, instead of the PGA of America recruiting and someone telling them what to do.”
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Woods happy to help Furyk at Ryder Cup
PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. – Tiger Woods didn't hesitate when Jim Furyk asked him to become a vice captain at the upcoming Ryder Cup.
Woods said Wednesday that Furyk asked he and Steve Stricker “a while ago” whether they were interested in being assistants in Paris as the Americans try to win a Ryder Cup on foreign soil for the first time in 25 years.
“He’s one of my best friends,” Woods said of Furyk, “and whatever he wants, whatever he needs, I’m there to help him. We’re worked well the last couple of years in the cups together.”
Though Woods has said that he wants to be a playing vice captain, he has been an assistant at each of the past two international team competitions.
Furyk, Woods and Stricker were all assistants at Hazeltine, where the U.S. won in a rout.
“Jim is very detailed, very smart, very analytical, and he’s just a fantastic leader,” Woods said. “For him to ask Stricks and I together, it will be special for both of us.”
Woods to hit '4 or 5' drivers each day at Honda
PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. – Those hoping Tiger Woods will wield the driver early and often this week at PGA National likely will be disappointed.
Depending on wind direction, he said he will only hit “four or five” drivers each round.
During Wednesday’s pro-am, Woods hit driver on six holes. He found two fairways with the big stick and found the right rough four times, though a few of those misses were only a few yards off the fairway.
In two starts this year, Woods has struggled mightily with every club off the tee, but driver has been especially troublesome. He has found only 36 percent of the fairways so far (30 of 84).
The Champion Course here is a par 70, with water and bunkers often lining the fairways. Putting the ball in play off the tee will be at a premium, and so Woods opted for a low, penetrating 2-iron six times in the pro-am.
Woods said he did not make any equipment changes following the missed cut at Riviera.