Golf Talk Live - Charles Howell III Transcript Segment 4

By Golf Channel DigitalAugust 6, 2001, 4:00 pm
RICH LERNER
WE WELCOME YOU BACK TO GOLF TALK LIVE WITH CHARLIE HOWELL AND THIS FROM KEVIN STILLER, ATLANTA GEORGIA, I'M 11 YEARS OLD AND DREAM OF PLAYING THE TOUR. WHAT'S THE BEST ADVICE YOU COULD GIVE ME?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL I, I'D SAY WITHOUT A DOUBT JUST KEEP WORKING HARD AT IT. DON'T EVER BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN'T DO IT. I, AT THAT AGE, I WAS HEARING THAT YOU'LL

NEVER MAKE IT AND YOU'RE TOO SMALL OR YOU DON'T HIT IT FAR ENOUGH AND
JUST HANG IN THERE AND KEEP WORKING AT IT. THERE'S PLENTY, PLENTY OF ROOM OUT THERE.

RICH LERNER
WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE TO YOUNGSTERS LIKE KEVIN NA, THE TALENTED YOUNGSTER FROM THE WEST COAST.

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT

RICH LERNER
WHO'S STILL A TEENAGER AND TO TY TRYON WHO HAS BEEN SENSATIONAL, STILL A HIGH SCHOOL JUNIOR TO BE. WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE THEM ON THE IDEA THAT THEY ARE APPARENTLY ENTERTAINING OF TURNING PROFESSIONAL BEFORE THEY EVER GET TO COLLEGE?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL THAT'S AN INTERESTING ONE AND YOU KNOW, I, I PLAYED THREE YEARS OF COLLEGE GOLF AND TURNED PRO EARLY WHICH I THOUGHT WAS REALLY ABOUT LEAVING WHEN YOU'RE IN SCHOOL EARLY

AND YOU KNOW, I, I, ALL THE STUFF I LEARNED FROM COACH HOLDER AND COACH MCGRALL WAS THE ASSISTANT COACH THERE AND ALL THE STUFF THEY TAUGHT ME AND EVERYTHING I LEARNED

THROUGH COLLEGE, LIVING ON MY OWN AWAY FROM MY PARENTS, LIVING WITH A ROOMMATE, WAKING UP ONE MORNING AND MOM DIDN'T HAVE BREAKFAST ON THE TABLE AND THROWING DIRTY CLOTHES ON THE FLOOR AND I HAD TO GO PICK THEM UP MYSELF.

RICH LERNER
(LAUGHS)

CHARLES HOWELL III
YOU KNOW I CAN'T IMAGINE MISSING THAT. I, I CAN'T, I CAN'T IMAGINE GOING STRAIGHT FROM HIGH SCHOOL TO DOING WHAT I'M DOING NOW. TRAVELING ALL THE TIME AND YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU

GO ONE OR TWO YEARS OF COLLEGE, GO TO OKLAHOMA STATE. THERE'S MY PLUG FOR OKLAHOMA. YEAH I MEAN, GO THERE, COACH HOLDER WILL UNDERSTAND THAT I, I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE NOT HAVING THAT.

RICH LERNER
YOU WERE HEAVILY RECRUITED AND THE CONSISTENT RECRUITMENT OF CHARLES HOWELL THE THIRD IS A THEME

CHARLES HOWELL III
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RICH LERNER
THAT HAS FOLLOWED YOU TO THIS DAY WHETHER IT WAS COLLEGIATE COACHES OR WHETHER IT WAS AGENTS TO BE OR WHETHER IT WAS CLUB MANUFACTURERS, BUT LET'S START WITH COLLEGES, WHY OKLAHOMA STATE AND WHO ELSE CAME AFTER YOU?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL I WAS RECRUITED BY OKLAHOMA STATE AND GEORGIA TECH AND UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA. THOSE THREE I HAD PRETTY MUCH NARROWED IT DOWN TO AND UH IT WASN'T AN EASY DECISION

AT ALL. IN THE END, I JUST, I LOVED COACH HOLDER. I MEAN HE, HE'S THE EXACT SAME AGE AS MY FATHER. THEY'RE ONE DAY APART.

RICH LERNER
HOW OLD IS THAT?

CHARLES HOWELL III
53 (LAUGHS)

RICH LERNER
53

CHARLES HOWELL III
SORRY COACH HOLDER.

(RICH AND CHARLES LAUGH)

CHARLES HOWELL III
BUT, BUT NO THEY, YOU KNOW AND THEY BOTH ARE, THEY'RE BOTH JUST AWESOME AND, AND COACH HOLDER AND HIS RECORD, WHAT HE'S ACCOMPLISHED

AT OKLAHOMA STATE AND JUST THE, THE
TRADITION THERE, I MEAN IT'S, I MEAN HOW CAN YOU BEAT THAT.

RICH LERNER
HE SEEMS TO ME, AND, I'VE ONLY SEEN HIM AND COVERED ONE NCA CHAMPIONSHIP BUT HE SEEMS TO ME TO BE A GUY WITH MORE OF A FOOTBALL COACH'S MENTALITY. VERY

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT

RICH LERNER
TOUGH GUY

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT... HE IS

RICH LERNER
WHAT DO YOU THINK?

CHARLES HOWELL III
NO HE IS TOUGH. I MEAN HE IS ALMOST A FOOTBALL COACH WITH A GOLF COACH'S LABEL BUT, BUT HE KNOWS HOW TO DO IT. I MEAN HE'S, HE'S NOT TRYING TO HARM YOU WHEN, WHEN HE'S OUT THERE MAKING YOU GET UP EARLY ON THE WEEKENDS TO GO PLAY GOLF, HE,

HE'S JUST TRYING TO MAKE YOU BETTER, HE'S NOT TRYING TO MAKE YOU MISERABLE, SO HE'S, NO I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T IMAGINE PLAYING FOR ANOTHER COACH.

RICH LERNER
LET'S TAKE A PHONE CALL. LET'S WELCOME JAY FROM GEORGIA. HI, YOU'RE ON WITH CHARLIE HOWELL.

JAY, CALLER FROM GEORGIA (MALE):
HEY CHARLIE. JAY KAYSON. HOW YOU DOING?

CHARLES HOWELL III
GOOD. HOW ARE YOU DOING?

JAY, CALLER FROM GEORGIA (MALE):
GOOD, GOOD. HEY, QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. WHAT'S BEEN THE ONE HARDEST THING TO GET ADJUSTED OUT ON THE PGA TOUR FOR YOU?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL JAY I'D SAY PROBABLY THE HARDEST THING HAS BEEN THE TRAVEL AND IN COLLEGE GOLF, AS YOU KNOW, WE PLAY ONE TOURNAMENT AND HAVE TWO OR THREE WEEKS OFF TO REST AND PRACTICE AND GET READY AND I THINK

THE TRAVEL, THE AMOUNT OF, LIKE THIS, I JUST GOT DONE PLAYING SIX WEEKS IN A ROW AND THAT CAN GET PRETTY TIRING

JAY, CALLER FROM GEORGIA (MALE):
RIGHT

CHARLES HOWELL III
OTHER THAN THAT IT'S, IT'S STILL JUST GOLF BUT THE TRAVEL'S GOT TO BE THE HARDEST PART.

JAY, CALLER FROM GEORGIA (MALE):
WELL, WELL GREAT THANKS CHARLIE.

CHARLES HOWELL III
HEY GOOD TO SEE YOU.

RICH LERNER
JAY, THANK YOU. HOW DO YOU TRAVEL? ARE YOU A COMMERCIAL FLYER OR HAVE YOU GONE THE ROUTE OF MANY PROFESSIONALS AND GONE WITH THE LEAST JET PROGRAM?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL FORTUNATELY I'M ABLE, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO PURCHASE A LEASED JET WHICH HAS BEEN, WHICH HAS BEEN AWESOME. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW NICE THAT IS.

RICH LERNER
IT'S NICE TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF DODGE (?)

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL IT IS. IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF BEING YOU KNOW, COCKY OR, OR

RICH LERNER
SURE

CHARLES HOWELL III
WHATEVER. IT'S AN ISSUE OF IT'S YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HOW VALUABLE YOUR TIME IS AND YOU KNOW GETTING FROM ONE TOURNAMENT TO THE OTHER WITH A FOUR HOUR DELAY HERE, WHATEVER, AND TRAVELING PRIVATE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SO NICE.

RICH LERNER
GO BACK TO YOUR DAYS AT OKLAHOMA STATE BECAUSE THERE, THERE WERE MANY GREAT MOMENTS THERE BUT THERE'S ONE THAT REALLY STANDS OUT AND MAY STAND FOR A LONG, LONG TIME IN THE RECORD BOOKS AND THAT'S YOUR PERFORMANCE AT THE 2000 NCA CHAMPIONSHIPS IN

ALABAMA.

CHARLES HOWELL III
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RICH LERNER
I MEAN YOU BLEW A HOLE IN THE RECORD BOOK AND YOU WON BY 8 SHOTS AND NOBODY HAD EVER GONE BETTER THAN 17 DEEP AND YOU FINISHED WHAT WITH TWENTY

THREE UNDER

CHARLES HOWELL III
TWENTY-THREE UNDER

RICH LERNER
UNDER PAR. I MEAN EVERYBODY ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CALLS IT THE GREATEST PERFORMANCE THEY'VE EVER SEEN.

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT

RICH LERNER
WHAT WAS GOING ON THAT WEEK?

CHARLES HOWELL III
(LAUGHS)

RICH LERNER
AND YOUR TEAM WON THE TITLE BY THE WAY, MOST IMPORTANTLY.

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT, YOU KNOW I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON. I, I'VE TRIED TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND SIT AND THINK ABOUT IT AND IT WAS ONE OF THE DEALS WHERE EVERYTHING WAS WORKING. I, I WAS DRIVING IT WELL. MY IRONS WERE HITTING THEM WELL. I WAS PUTTING GOOD AND IT WAS JUST, IT WAS AN

AWESOME WEEK. IT, THE GOLF COURSE REALLY FIT MY EYE WELL AND I, I'VE TRIED TO FIGURE IT OUT SINCE THEN. I'VE GOTTEN CLOSE.

RICH LERNER
APPARENTLY IT, IT COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER. I MEAN THERE WERE FIVE OR SIX PUTTS THAT KNOCKED ON THE DOOR, DIDN'T GO IN?

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT, WELL YEAH, AS SOON AS I LOOKED AT THAT LEADERBOARD ON THE LAST DAY FOR SOME REASON THE PUTTS STARTED MISSING.

RICH LERNER
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, AND, AND NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR AFTER YOU'VE SHOT 23 UNDER PAR THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN 28.

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT

RICH LERNER
(LAUGHS)
BUT NOBODY, NOBODY WANTS TO HEAR THAT.

CHARLES HOWELL III
NO BUT LIKE A GOLFER YOU'LL ALWAYS SAY IT.

RICH LERNER
OF COURSE (LAUGHS). ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK. DAVID LEADBETTER IS GOING TO JOIN US. WHEN WE COME BACK, THIS REMINDER YOU CAN JOIN US ON LINE AS ALWAYS AT GOLF'S

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The missing link: Advice from successful tour pros

By Phil BlackmarJanuary 20, 2018, 1:24 am

Today’s topic is significant in that it underscores the direction golf is headed, a direction that has me a little concerned.

Now, more than ever, it has become the norm for PGA Tour players to put together a team to assist in all aspects of their career. These teams can typically include the player’s swing coach, mental coach, manager, workout specialist, dietician, physical therapist, short-game guru, doctor, accountant, nanny and wife. Though it often concerns me the player may be missing out when others are making decisions for them, that is not the topic.

I want to talk about what most players seem to be inexplicably leaving off their teams.

One of the things that separates great players from the rest of the pack – other than talent – is the great player’s ability to routinely stay comfortable and play with focus and clarity in all situations. Though innate to many, this skill is trainable and can be learned. Don’t get too excited, the details of such a plan are too long and more suited for a book than the short confines of this article.

So, if that aspect of the game is so important, where is the representative on the player’s team who has stood on the 18th tee with everything on the line? Where is the representative on the team who has experienced, over and over, what the player will be experiencing? In other words, where is the successful former tour player on the team?

You look to tennis and many players have such a person on their team. These teacher/mentors include the likes of Boris Becker, Ivan Lendl, Jimmy Connors and Brad Gilbert. Why is it not the norm in golf?

Sure, a few players have sought out the advice of Jack Nicklaus, but he’s not part of a team. The teaching ranks also include some former players like Butch Harmon and a few others. But how many teams include a player who has contended in a major, let alone won one or more?

I’m not here to argue the value and knowledge of all the other coaches who make up a player’s team. But how can the value of a successful tour professional be overlooked? If I’m going to ask someone what I should do in various situations on the course, I would prefer to include the experienced knowledge of players who have been there themselves.

This leads me to the second part of today’s message. Is there a need for the professional players to mix with professional teachers to deliver the best and most comprehensive teaching philosophy to average players? I feel there is.

Most lessons are concerned with changing the student’s swing. Often, this is done with little regard for how it feels to the student because the teacher believes the information is correct and more important than the “feels” of the student. “Stick with it until it’s comfortable” is often the message. This directive methodology was put on Twitter for public consumption a short time back:

On the other hand, the professional player is an expert at making a score and understands the intangible side of the game. The intangible side says: “Mechanics cannot stand alone in making a good player.” The intangible side understands “people feel things differently”; ask Jim Furyk to swing like Dustin Johnson, or vice versa. This means something that looks good to us may not feel right to someone else.

The intangible side lets us know that mechanics and feels must walk together in order for the player to succeed. From Ben Hogan’s book:

“What I have learned I have learned by laborious trial and error, watching a good player do something that looked right to me, stumbling across something that felt right to me, experimenting with that something to see if it helped or hindered, adopting it if it helped, refining it sometimes, discarding it if it didn’t help, sometimes discarding it later if it proved undependable in competition, experimenting continually with new ideas and old ideas and all manner of variations until I arrived at a set of fundamentals that appeared to me to be right because they accomplished a very definite purpose, a set of fundamentals which proved to me they were right because they stood up and produced under all kinds of pressure.”

Hogan beautifully described the learning process that could develop the swings of great players like DJ, Furyk, Lee Trevino, Jordan Spieth, Nicklaus, etc.

Bob Toski is still teaching. Steve Elkington is helping to bring us the insight of Jackie Burke. Hal Sutton has a beautiful teaching facility outside of Houston. And so on. Just like mechanics and feels, it’s not either-or – the best message comes from both teachers and players.

Lately, it seems the scale has swung more to one side; let us not forget the value of insights brought to us by the players who have best mastered the game.

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Woods, Rahm, Rickie, J-Day headline Torrey field

By Golf Channel DigitalJanuary 20, 2018, 12:47 am

Tiger Woods is set to make his 2018 debut.

Woods is still part of the final field list for next week’s Farmers Insurance Open, the headliner of a tournament that includes defending champion Jon Rahm, Hideki Matsuyama, Justin Rose, Rickie Fowler, Phil Mickelson and Jason Day.

In all, 12 of the top 26 players in the world are teeing it up at Torrey Pines.

Though Woods has won eight times at Torrey Pines, he hasn’t broken 71 in his past seven rounds there and hasn’t played all four rounds since 2013, when he won. Last year he missed the cut after rounds of 76-72, then lasted just one round in Dubai before he withdrew with back spasms.

After a fourth back surgery, Woods didn’t return to competition until last month’s Hero World Challenge, where he tied for ninth. 

Woods has committed to play both the Farmers Insurance Open and next month's Genesis Open at Riviera, which benefits his foundation. 

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Even on 'off' day, Rahm shoots 67 at CareerBuilder

By Ryan LavnerJanuary 20, 2018, 12:36 am

Jon Rahm didn’t strike the ball as purely Friday as he did during his opening round at the CareerBuilder Challenge.

He still managed a 5-under 67 that put him just one shot off the lead heading into the weekend.

“I expected myself to go to the range (this morning) and keep flushing everything like I did yesterday,” said Rahm, who shot a career-low 62 at La Quinta on Thursday. “Everything was just a little bit off. It was just one of those days.”


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After going bogey-free on Thursday, Rahm mixed four birdies and two bogeys over his opening six holes. He managed to settle down around the turn, then made two birdies on his final three holes to move within one shot of Andrew Landry (65).

Rahm has missed only five greens through two rounds and sits at 15-under 129. 

The 23-year-old Spaniard won in Dubai to end the year and opened 2018 with a runner-up finish at the Sentry Tournament of Champions. He needs a top-6 finish or better this week to supplant Jordan Spieth as the No. 2 player in the world.

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Landry stays hot, leads desert shootout at CareerBuilder

By Associated PressJanuary 20, 2018, 12:35 am

LA QUINTA, Calif. – 

Andrew Landry topped the crowded CareerBuilder Challenge leaderboard after another low-scoring day in the sunny Coachella Valley.

Landry shot a 7-under 65 on Thursday on PGA West's Jack Nicklaus Tournament Course to reach 16 under. He opened with a 63 on Thursday at La Quinta Country Club.

''Wind was down again,'' Landry said. ''It's like a dome out here.''

Jon Rahm, the first-round leader after a 62 at La Quinta, was a stroke back. He had two early bogeys in a 67 on the Nicklaus layout.

''It's tough to come back because I feel like I expected myself to go to the range and keep just flushing everything like I did yesterday,'' Rahm said. ''Everything was just a little bit off.''

Jason Kokrak was 14 under after a 67 at Nicklaus. Two-time major champion Zach Johnson was 13 under along with Michael Kim and Martin Piller. Johnson had a 64 at Nicklaus.


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Landry, Rahm, Kokrak and Johnson will finish the rotation Saturday at PGA West's Stadium Course, also the site of the final round.

''You need to hit it a lot more accurate off the tee because being in the fairway is a lot more important,'' Rahm said about the Pete Dye-designed Stadium Course, a layout the former Arizona State player likened to the Dye-designed Karsten course on the school's campus. ''With the small greens, you have water in play. You need to be more precise. Clearly the hardest golf course.''

Landry pointed to the Saturday forecast.

''I think the wind's supposed to be up like 10 to 20 mph or something, so I know that golf course can get a little mean,'' Landry said. ''Especially, those last three or four holes.''

The 30-year-old former Arkansas player had five birdies in a six-hole stretch on the back nine. After winning his second Web.com Tour title last year, he had two top-10 finishes in October and November at the start the PGA Tour season.

''We're in a good spot right now,'' Landry said. ''I played two good rounds of golf, bogey-free both times, and it's just nice to be able to hit a lot of good quality shots and get rewarded when you're making good putts.''

Rahm had four birdies and the two bogeys on his first six holes. He short-sided himself in the left bunker on the par-3 12th for his first bogey of the week and three-putted the par-4 14th – pulling a 3-footer and loudly asking ''What?'' – to drop another stroke.

''A couple of those bad swings cost me,'' Rahm said.

The top-ranked player in the field at No. 3 in the world, Rahm made his first par of the day on the par-4 16th and followed with five more before birdieing the par-5 fourth. The 23-year-old Spaniard also birdied the par-5 seventh and par-3 eighth.

''I had close birdie putts over the last four holes and made two of them, so I think that kind of clicked,'' said Rahm, set to defend his title next week at Torrey Pines.

He has played the par 5s in 9 under with an eagle and seven birdies.

Johnson has taken a relaxed approach to the week, cutting his practice to two nine-hole rounds on the Stadium Course.

''I'm not saying that's why I'm playing well, but I took it really chill and the golf courses haven't changed,'' Johnson said. ''La Quinta's still really pure, right out in front of you, as is the Nicklaus.''

Playing partner Phil Mickelson followed his opening 70 at La Quinta with a 68 at Nicklaus to get to 6 under. The 47-year-old Hall of Famer is playing his first tournament of since late October.

''The scores obviously aren't what I want, but it's pretty close and I feel good about my game,'' Mickelson said. ''I feel like this is a great place to start the year and build a foundation for my game. It's easy to identify the strengths and weaknesses. My iron play has been poor relative to the standards that I have. My driving has been above average.''

Charlie Reiter, the Palm Desert High School senior playing on a sponsor exemption, had a 70 at Nicklaus to match Mickelson at 6 under. The Southern California recruit is playing his first PGA Tour event. He tied for 65th in the Australian Open in November in his first start in a professional tournament.