Golf Talk Live - Charles Howell III Transcript Segment 5

By Golf Channel DigitalAugust 6, 2001, 4:00 pm
RICH LERNER
CHARLIE HOWELL HAS BUILT THAT MAGNIFICENT GOLF SWING UNDER THE TRAINED EYE OF ONE OF THE GREATEST TEACHERS IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME, DAVID LEADBETTER, WHO'S WITH US NOW FROM ENGLAND. LEAD HOW ARE YOU?

DAVID LEADBETTER, GOLF INSTRUCTOR, CALLER (MALE):
RICH I'M VERY WELL OFF, THANK YOU. IT'S PRETTY LATE OVER HERE, BUT GLAD TO BE ON THE SHOW WITH CHARLES.

RICH LERNER
DAVID, YOU'VE SEEN SO MANY PROSPECTS IN YOUR DAY. YOU PROBABLY GET SO MANY REQUESTS FROM FATHERS WHO WOULD LIKE THEIR CHILDREN TO BE THE NEXT KARIE WEBB OR TIGER WOODS OR

WHAT HAVE YOU. WHAT MAKES CHARLES HOWELL THE REAL DEAL WHERE YOU'RE CONCERNED?

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
WELL I'VE REALLY SEEN CHARLES SINCE HE WAS TEN, RICH, AND HE HAD THAT SOMETHING SPECIAL WHICH, IT'S VERY HARD TO PUT YOUR FINGER ON IT. AN INTANGIBLE THERE THAT I THINK THAT I THINK YOU SEE ONCE IN A WHILE AND

YOU KNOW HIS WORK ETHIC, HIS JUST HIS FOCUS AND HIS MATURITY. IT'S AMAZING EVEN AT A VERY YOUNG AGE. HE'S, HE, HE'S JUST A GREAT PLAYER. HE'S GOT SO MUCH TALENT IN SO MANY AREAS AND I

ALWAYS KNEW HE WAS GOING TO BE A GREAT PLAYER AND I THINK HE'S JUST SHOWING THE SIGNS RIGHT NOW SO, IT'S, IT'S GREAT WHEN YOU GET A, WHEN YOU GET A THOROUGHBRED LIKE CHARLES

COMING ALONG BECAUSE REALLY YOU JUST GOT TO GUIDE THEM. IT'S NOT SO MUCH TEACH HIM. IT'S JUST COACHING HIM AND, AND ENCOURAGING THEM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE CHARLES IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT

FUTURE, YOU KNOW REALLY VYING FOR THE TOP POSITION. I KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, TIGER'S SET THE MOLD BUT CHARLES PHYSICALLY CERTAINLY HAS ALL THE TALENT IN THE WORLD AND WITH A LITTLE BIT OF MATURITY AND A LITTLE WORK I KNOW HE'S GOING TO GET TO THE VERY TOP.

RICH LERNER
DAVID, WALK US THROUGH THE GOLF SWING THAT WE ARE WATCHING ON OUR MONITORS RIGHT NOW, OR WE JUST WERE. WALK US THROUGH THAT GOLF SWING AND EXPLAIN TO US WHAT HE'S DOING AND WHAT MAKES IT AS GOOD AS IT APPARENTLY IS.

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
WELL THE FIRST THING, CHARLES IN THE LAST PROBABLY TWO OR THREE YEARS HAS PUT ON ABOUT 25 POUNDS AND ALTHOUGH HE'S JUST UNDER SIX FOOT HE'S VERY WIRY AND VERY STRONG, SO THE, THE BIG THING I THINK YOU FIRST OF ALL NOTICE IS HOW STRONG HIS SET UP IS

VERY ATHLETIC. A LOT OF WIDTH IN HIS SWING AND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF COIL, I MEAN THE SPEED THAT HE GENERATES IS UNBELIEVABLE AND WE'RE TALKING AT SORT OF 130, 135 MILE AN HOUR RANGE WITH A DRIVER AND CERTAINLY WE CAN

SEE THE HUGE TURN AND MAKES A TREMENDOUS TURN AND THE AMOUNT OF LAG THAT HE HAS WHICH ACTUALLY FOR THE MOST PART WE'RE TRYING TO DELAG HIM AS WE CALL IT. HE ACTUALLY GETS

TOO MUCH LAG AT TIMES WHERE THE, THE HANDS ARE REALLY LEADING THE CLUBHEAD INTO IMPACT. IT, IT'S JUST A VERY EXPLOSIVE MOVEMENT AND THE FACT IS FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S HITTING IT SO HARD HE HAS GREAT BALANCE, SO,

YOU KNOW, WORKING HARD ON TRYING TO GET THE CLUB ON LINE, I SUPPOSE THAT'S THE BIG THING WE'VE WORKED ON OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS REALLY TRYING TO GET THE CLUB ON LINE IF THERE IS A

TENDENCY THE CLUB GETS A LITTLE LAID OFF AT TIMES AND THE LOWER BODY GETS A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE SO I WAS REALLY TRYING TO GET A FINE BLEND BETWEEN HIS ARM SWING AND HIS BODY TURN WHICH HE'S REALLY STARTING TO DO A

GOOD JOB AND AS A RESULT HE'S STARTING TO HIT A LOT OF THESE SHORT IRONS WITH A LOT MORE PRECISION RATHER THAN HITTING THEM FLAT OUT WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT HE'S REALLY HAD TO LEARN.

RICH LERNER
CHARLES, WHEN YOU ARE ON THE ROAD WILL YOU CALL DAVID VIA TELEPHONE AND GET A CONSULTATION ON THE SWING OVER THE PHONE?

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH YEAH, HE CAN, HE CAN PICK UP SOMETHING IN MY GOLF SWING EASILY. HE, HE JUST HAS TO SEE ONE SWING TO, TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON, WAS THAT GOOD OR BAD, BUT OVER, YOU KNOW,

REALLY, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO WATCH ME SWING. I CAN TELL HIM WHICH WAY I'M HITTING AND HE KNOWS WHAT I'M DOING.

RICH LERNER
AND IS IT A SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN BE HONEST WITH ONE ANOTHER SO THAT MAYBE HE COULD SAY I DIDN'T LIKE THE DECISION YOU MADE

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH YEAH

RICH LERNER
ON NUMBER 17 THERE. WHY DID YOU GO IN THAT DIRECTION?

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT, OH YEAH. NO, DAVID'S A, DAVID'S A STRAIGHT SHOOTER. I MEAN HE'LL ALWAYS TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT HE'S THINKING AND, WHICH IS GOOD. I DON'T WANT HIM, I DON'T WANT HIM TO SUGARCOAT OR ANYTHING I WANT HIM TO

SIT THERE AND JUST TELL ME HOW GREAT I AM. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S WRONG AND HOW TO GET BETTER AND YOU KNOW THAT'S THE WAY HE IS, THAT'S THE WAY HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

RICH LERNER
NO NEED TO SUGARCOAT THE DOUBLE BOGIES THAT YOU MADE AT, AT THE INTERNATIONAL

CHARLES HOWELL III
NO

RICH LERNER
THIS, THIS PAST WEEK.

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
WELL INTERESTING THING IS RICH, I'VE WORKED WITH CHARLES NOW FOR ABOUT 11 YEARS OR 12 YEARS NOW AND THE FACT IS, IT, IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT PROCEDURE FOR ME REALLY THROUGH THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE PLAYERS THAT I'VE WORKED

WITH OVER THE YEARS, THE PLAYERS HAVE ALREADY ACHIEVED A, A HIGH LEVEL OF PLAY AND WORKING WITH A YOUNG PLAYER, AS, WITH CHARLES, BRINGING HIM THROUGH THE JUNIOR RANKS, IT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING,

I MEAN, THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HIS FAMILY, HE STAYS WITH US AT THE, IT'S REALLY GREAT BECAUSE WE FOUND I THINK WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SORT OF UNDERSTAND HIS CHARACTER AND I'VE GOT TO KNOW HIM

SO WELL THAT I CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND HIS MOODS AND HIS FEELINGS, AND SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE INTIMACY THERE AS FAR AS THE COACH PLAYER RELATIONSHIP IS CONCERNED. SO, YEAH, WE, WE, WE BRING HIM DOWN

TO EARTH OCCASIONALLY BUT HE'S, HE'S A GREAT YOUNG MAN AND I THINK HE'S GOING TO BE A REAL CREDIT TO THE PROFESSION, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.


RICH LERNER
LEAD, HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE CHARACTER? WE'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW HIM OVER THE LAST 30 MINUTES OR SO AND WE'RE REALLY ENJOYING IT. I THINK THE PUBLIC AT LARGE KNOWS THAT HE'S A LONG HITTER AND MAYBE THE GUY

WHO WILL CHALLENGE TIGER, WE DON'T KNOW. THEY KNOW HE'S POLITE TO A FAULT, BUT YOU KNOW HIM SO WELL, HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE HIS CHARACTER? ... WITHOUT MAKING HIM BLUSH RIGHT HERE.

CHARLES HOWELL III
(LAUGHS)

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
(LAUGHS). WELL THAT'S TOUGH IN FRONT OF MILLIONS OF VIEWERS, BUT I, I THINK THAT THE THING IS RICH, INSIDE CHARLES, I THINK, CHARLES HAS ALWAYS KNOWN THAT HEY HE, THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIAL ABOUT HIS GOLF GAME, AND LISTEN THERE'S MANY FINE

YOUNG PLAYERS AROUND RIGHT NOW. OBVIOUSLY WE'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, THE DAVID GOSSETS (?) AND THE ADAM SCOTTS AND AARON BADLEYS AND THE SERGIO GARCIAS OBVIOUSLY AND JUSTIN ROSES'

AND YOU KNOW THERE'S A WHOLE NEW ERA SORT OF, BEING CREATED RIGHT HERE AND THESE YOUNG PLAYERS OBVIOUSLY LOOKING AT TIGER AND THINKING HEY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO ACHIEVE, BUT WITH

CHARLES THERE'S A, THERE'S A BURNING DESIRE INSIDE TO BE NUMBER ONE AND HIS, HIS WORK ETHIC IS UNBELIEVABLE AND IN FACT, OVER THE YEARS, I MEAN I THINK HIS DAD, IN PARTICULAR AND ME TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, WE'VE ALMOST HAD TO SORT OF GET HIM TO, PUT HIM OFF THE PRACTICE TEE BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, NOW WITH CHARLES GETTING MARRIED I THINK IT'S REALLY GOING TO

HELP HIM TO BE A SORT OF A MORE WELL ROUNDED, WELL BALANCED INDIVIDUAL, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET BURNED OUT TO SOME EXTENT AND I THINK CHARLES REALIZES NOW THAT HEY, WHAT HE'S DOING, I MEAN, HEY

IT'S FUN, IT'S EXCITING BUT YOU'VE GOT TO WATCH THE BURN OUT SITUATION AND THE THINGS WITH CHARLES, HE'S, HE'S SUCH A SMART INDIVIDUAL THAT I THINK HE'S LEARNING ALL THE TIME AND THAT'S THE BIG KEY AND ALTHOUGH HE HASN'T

WON YET HE'S CERTAINLY LEARNING WHAT HE HAS TO DO IN ORDER TO WIN AND I THINK WHEN HE STARTS WINNING THAT WAS JUST A CASE OF HEY THE FLOOD GATES ARE GOING TO OPEN FOR SURE.

RICH LERNER
SO, WHERE THE BURN OUT ISSUE IS CONCERNED, I KNOW YOU WERE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT HE DID NOT TOUCH A CLUB FOR THE LAST, WHAT, TWO DAYS, CHARLIE?

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
(LAUGHING)

CHARLES HOWELL III
UH WELL JUST TODAY.

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
THAT'S ALMOST A RITUAL , ISN'T IT CHARLES?

RICH LERNER
YEAH, WELL LEAD THANKS VERY MUCH AS ALWAYS FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT. YOU HAVE ALWAYS MADE YOUR TIME AVAILABLE TO THE GOLF CHANNEL AND WE APPRECIATE IT GREATLY.

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
THANKS RICH.

CHARLES I'LL SEE YOU SHORTLY.

CHARLES HOWELL III
THANKS DAVID... ALRIGHT, SEE YOU IN A COUPLE DAYS.

RICH LERNER
TAKE CARE.

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
OKAY

RICH LERNER
THAT IS DAVID LEADBETTER AND WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK. THAT WAS NICE OF LEAD.

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH THAT WAS GREAT

RICH LERNER
TO, TO PHONE IN. (LAUGHS) ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK AND AS WE HEAD TO THIS BRIEF TIME OUT WE WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS MAGNIFICENT SHOT FROM CHARLIE AT

THE JOHN DEERE CLASSIC A YEAR AGO WHERE HE GAVE US SOME FLASHES OF WHAT WE ARE NOW SEEING. FINISHED THIRD IN THAT TOURNAMENT. WE'RE BACK IN JUST A MOMENT.

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Hadwin returns to site of last year's 59

By Will GrayJanuary 17, 2018, 11:04 pm

Adam Hadwin had a career season last year, one that included shooting a 59 and winning a PGA Tour event. But those two achievements didn't occur in the same week.

While Hadwin's breakthrough victory came at the Valspar Championship in March, it was at the CareerBuilder Challenge in January when he first made headlines with a third-round 59 at La Quinta Country Club. Hadwin took a lead into the final round as a result, but he ultimately couldn't keep pace with Hudson Swafford.

He went on to earn a spot at the Tour Championship, and Hadwin made his first career Presidents Cup appearance in October. Now the Canadian returns to Palm Springs, eager to improve on last year's result and hoping to earn a spot in the final group for a third straight year after a T-6 finish in 2016.

"A lot of good memories here in the desert," Hadwin told reporters. "I feel very comfortable here, very at home. Lots of Canadians, so it's always fun to play well in front of those crowds and hopefully looking forward to another good week."

Hadwin's 59 last year was somewhat overshadowed, both by the fact that he didn't win the event and that it came just one week after Justin Thomas shot a 59 en route to victory at the Sony Open. But he's still among an exclusive club of just eight players to have broken 60 in competition on Tour and he's eager to get another crack at La Quinta on Saturday.

"If I'm in the same position on 18, I'm gunning for 58 this year," Hadwin said, "not playing safe for 59."

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Rahm: If I thought like Phil, I could not hit a shot

By Will GrayJanuary 17, 2018, 10:39 pm

When it comes to Jon Rahm and Phil Mickelson, there are plenty of common bonds. Both starred at Arizona State, both are now repped by the same agency and Rahm's former college coach and agent, Tim Mickelson, now serves full-time as his brother's caddie.

Those commonalities mean the two men have played plenty of practice rounds together, but the roads quickly diverge when it comes to on-course behavior. Rahm is quick, fiery and decisive; Mickelson is one of the most analytical players on Tour. And as Rahm told reporters Wednesday at the CareerBuilder Challenge, those differences won't end anytime soon.

"I don't need much. 'OK, it's like 120 (yards), this shot, right," Rahm said. "And then you have Phil, it's like, 'Oh, this shot, the moisture, this going on, this is like one mile an hour wind sideways, it's going to affect it one yard. This green is soft, this trajectory. They're thinking, and I'm like, 'I'm lost.' I'm like, 'God if I do that thought process, I could not hit a golf shot.'"


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The tactics may be more simplified, but Rahm can't argue with the results. While Mickelson is in the midst of a winless drought that is approaching five years, Rahm won three times around the world last year and will defend a PGA Tour title for the first time next week at Torrey Pines.

Both men are in the field this week in Palm Springs, where Mickelson will make his 2018 debut with what Rahm fully expects to be another dose of high-level analytics for the five-time major winner with his brother on the bag.

"It's funny, he gets to the green and then it's the same thing. He's very detail-oriented," Rahm said of Mickelson. "I'm there listening and I'm like, 'Man, I hope we're never paired together for anything because I can't think like this. I would not be able to play golf like that. But for me to listen to all that is really fun."

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DJ changes tune on golf ball distance debate

By Will GrayJanuary 17, 2018, 9:16 pm

World No. 1 Dustin Johnson is already one of the longest hitters in golf, so he's not looking for any changes to be made to golf ball technology - despite comments from him that hinted at just such a notion two months ago.

Johnson is in the Middle East this week for the Abu Dhabi HSBC Championship, and he told BBC Sport Wednesday that he wouldn't be in favor of making changes to the golf ball in order to remedy some of the eye-popping distances players are hitting the ball with ever-increasing frequency.

"It's not like we are dominating golf courses," Johnson said. "When was the last time you saw someone make the game too easy? I don't really understand what all the debate is about because it doesn't matter how far it goes; it is about getting it in the hole."

Johnson's rhetorical question might be answered simply by looking back at his performance at the Sentry Tournament of Champions earlier this month, an eight-shot romp that featured a tee shot on the 433-yard 12th hole that bounded down a slope to within inches of the hole.

Johnson appeared much more willing to consider a reduced-distance ball option at the Hero World Challenge in November, when he sat next to tournament host Tiger Woods and supported Woods' notion that the ball should be addressed.

"I don't mind seeing every other professional sport, they play with one ball. All the pros play with the same ball," Johnson said. "In baseball, the guys that are bigger and stronger, they can hit a baseball a lot further than the smaller guys. ... I think there should be some kind of an advantage for guys who work on hitting it far and getting that speed that's needed, so having a ball, like the same ball that everyone plays, there's going to be, you're going to have more of an advantage."

Speaking Wednesday in Abu Dhabi, Johnson stood by the notion that regardless of whether the rules change or stay the same, he plans to have a leg up on the competition.

"If the ball is limited then it is going to limit everyone," he said. "I'm still going to hit it that much further than I guess the average Tour player."

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LPGA lists April date for new LA event

By Golf Channel DigitalJanuary 17, 2018, 8:18 pm

The LPGA’s return to Los Angeles will come with the new Hugel-JTBC Open being played at Wilshire Country Club April 19-22, the tour announced Wednesday.

When the LPGA originally released its schedule, it listed the Los Angeles event with the site to be announced at a later date.

The Hugel-JTBC Open will feature a 144-player field and a $1.5 million purse. It expands the tour’s West Coast swing, which will now be made up of four events in California in March and April.

The LPGA last played in Los Angeles in 2005. Wilshire Country Club hosted The Office Depot in 2001, with Annika Sorenstam winning there.