Golf Talk Live - Charles Howell III Transcript Segment 5

By Golf Channel DigitalAugust 6, 2001, 4:00 pm
RICH LERNER
CHARLIE HOWELL HAS BUILT THAT MAGNIFICENT GOLF SWING UNDER THE TRAINED EYE OF ONE OF THE GREATEST TEACHERS IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME, DAVID LEADBETTER, WHO'S WITH US NOW FROM ENGLAND. LEAD HOW ARE YOU?

DAVID LEADBETTER, GOLF INSTRUCTOR, CALLER (MALE):
RICH I'M VERY WELL OFF, THANK YOU. IT'S PRETTY LATE OVER HERE, BUT GLAD TO BE ON THE SHOW WITH CHARLES.

RICH LERNER
DAVID, YOU'VE SEEN SO MANY PROSPECTS IN YOUR DAY. YOU PROBABLY GET SO MANY REQUESTS FROM FATHERS WHO WOULD LIKE THEIR CHILDREN TO BE THE NEXT KARIE WEBB OR TIGER WOODS OR

WHAT HAVE YOU. WHAT MAKES CHARLES HOWELL THE REAL DEAL WHERE YOU'RE CONCERNED?

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
WELL I'VE REALLY SEEN CHARLES SINCE HE WAS TEN, RICH, AND HE HAD THAT SOMETHING SPECIAL WHICH, IT'S VERY HARD TO PUT YOUR FINGER ON IT. AN INTANGIBLE THERE THAT I THINK THAT I THINK YOU SEE ONCE IN A WHILE AND

YOU KNOW HIS WORK ETHIC, HIS JUST HIS FOCUS AND HIS MATURITY. IT'S AMAZING EVEN AT A VERY YOUNG AGE. HE'S, HE, HE'S JUST A GREAT PLAYER. HE'S GOT SO MUCH TALENT IN SO MANY AREAS AND I

ALWAYS KNEW HE WAS GOING TO BE A GREAT PLAYER AND I THINK HE'S JUST SHOWING THE SIGNS RIGHT NOW SO, IT'S, IT'S GREAT WHEN YOU GET A, WHEN YOU GET A THOROUGHBRED LIKE CHARLES

COMING ALONG BECAUSE REALLY YOU JUST GOT TO GUIDE THEM. IT'S NOT SO MUCH TEACH HIM. IT'S JUST COACHING HIM AND, AND ENCOURAGING THEM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE CHARLES IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT

FUTURE, YOU KNOW REALLY VYING FOR THE TOP POSITION. I KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, TIGER'S SET THE MOLD BUT CHARLES PHYSICALLY CERTAINLY HAS ALL THE TALENT IN THE WORLD AND WITH A LITTLE BIT OF MATURITY AND A LITTLE WORK I KNOW HE'S GOING TO GET TO THE VERY TOP.

RICH LERNER
DAVID, WALK US THROUGH THE GOLF SWING THAT WE ARE WATCHING ON OUR MONITORS RIGHT NOW, OR WE JUST WERE. WALK US THROUGH THAT GOLF SWING AND EXPLAIN TO US WHAT HE'S DOING AND WHAT MAKES IT AS GOOD AS IT APPARENTLY IS.

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
WELL THE FIRST THING, CHARLES IN THE LAST PROBABLY TWO OR THREE YEARS HAS PUT ON ABOUT 25 POUNDS AND ALTHOUGH HE'S JUST UNDER SIX FOOT HE'S VERY WIRY AND VERY STRONG, SO THE, THE BIG THING I THINK YOU FIRST OF ALL NOTICE IS HOW STRONG HIS SET UP IS

VERY ATHLETIC. A LOT OF WIDTH IN HIS SWING AND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF COIL, I MEAN THE SPEED THAT HE GENERATES IS UNBELIEVABLE AND WE'RE TALKING AT SORT OF 130, 135 MILE AN HOUR RANGE WITH A DRIVER AND CERTAINLY WE CAN

SEE THE HUGE TURN AND MAKES A TREMENDOUS TURN AND THE AMOUNT OF LAG THAT HE HAS WHICH ACTUALLY FOR THE MOST PART WE'RE TRYING TO DELAG HIM AS WE CALL IT. HE ACTUALLY GETS

TOO MUCH LAG AT TIMES WHERE THE, THE HANDS ARE REALLY LEADING THE CLUBHEAD INTO IMPACT. IT, IT'S JUST A VERY EXPLOSIVE MOVEMENT AND THE FACT IS FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S HITTING IT SO HARD HE HAS GREAT BALANCE, SO,

YOU KNOW, WORKING HARD ON TRYING TO GET THE CLUB ON LINE, I SUPPOSE THAT'S THE BIG THING WE'VE WORKED ON OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS REALLY TRYING TO GET THE CLUB ON LINE IF THERE IS A

TENDENCY THE CLUB GETS A LITTLE LAID OFF AT TIMES AND THE LOWER BODY GETS A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE SO I WAS REALLY TRYING TO GET A FINE BLEND BETWEEN HIS ARM SWING AND HIS BODY TURN WHICH HE'S REALLY STARTING TO DO A

GOOD JOB AND AS A RESULT HE'S STARTING TO HIT A LOT OF THESE SHORT IRONS WITH A LOT MORE PRECISION RATHER THAN HITTING THEM FLAT OUT WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT HE'S REALLY HAD TO LEARN.

RICH LERNER
CHARLES, WHEN YOU ARE ON THE ROAD WILL YOU CALL DAVID VIA TELEPHONE AND GET A CONSULTATION ON THE SWING OVER THE PHONE?

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH YEAH, HE CAN, HE CAN PICK UP SOMETHING IN MY GOLF SWING EASILY. HE, HE JUST HAS TO SEE ONE SWING TO, TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON, WAS THAT GOOD OR BAD, BUT OVER, YOU KNOW,

REALLY, HE DOESN'T HAVE TO WATCH ME SWING. I CAN TELL HIM WHICH WAY I'M HITTING AND HE KNOWS WHAT I'M DOING.

RICH LERNER
AND IS IT A SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN BE HONEST WITH ONE ANOTHER SO THAT MAYBE HE COULD SAY I DIDN'T LIKE THE DECISION YOU MADE

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH YEAH

RICH LERNER
ON NUMBER 17 THERE. WHY DID YOU GO IN THAT DIRECTION?

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT, OH YEAH. NO, DAVID'S A, DAVID'S A STRAIGHT SHOOTER. I MEAN HE'LL ALWAYS TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT HE'S THINKING AND, WHICH IS GOOD. I DON'T WANT HIM, I DON'T WANT HIM TO SUGARCOAT OR ANYTHING I WANT HIM TO

SIT THERE AND JUST TELL ME HOW GREAT I AM. I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S WRONG AND HOW TO GET BETTER AND YOU KNOW THAT'S THE WAY HE IS, THAT'S THE WAY HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

RICH LERNER
NO NEED TO SUGARCOAT THE DOUBLE BOGIES THAT YOU MADE AT, AT THE INTERNATIONAL

CHARLES HOWELL III
NO

RICH LERNER
THIS, THIS PAST WEEK.

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
WELL INTERESTING THING IS RICH, I'VE WORKED WITH CHARLES NOW FOR ABOUT 11 YEARS OR 12 YEARS NOW AND THE FACT IS, IT, IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT PROCEDURE FOR ME REALLY THROUGH THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE PLAYERS THAT I'VE WORKED

WITH OVER THE YEARS, THE PLAYERS HAVE ALREADY ACHIEVED A, A HIGH LEVEL OF PLAY AND WORKING WITH A YOUNG PLAYER, AS, WITH CHARLES, BRINGING HIM THROUGH THE JUNIOR RANKS, IT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING,

I MEAN, THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HIS FAMILY, HE STAYS WITH US AT THE, IT'S REALLY GREAT BECAUSE WE FOUND I THINK WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SORT OF UNDERSTAND HIS CHARACTER AND I'VE GOT TO KNOW HIM

SO WELL THAT I CAN REALLY UNDERSTAND HIS MOODS AND HIS FEELINGS, AND SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE INTIMACY THERE AS FAR AS THE COACH PLAYER RELATIONSHIP IS CONCERNED. SO, YEAH, WE, WE, WE BRING HIM DOWN

TO EARTH OCCASIONALLY BUT HE'S, HE'S A GREAT YOUNG MAN AND I THINK HE'S GOING TO BE A REAL CREDIT TO THE PROFESSION, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.


RICH LERNER
LEAD, HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE CHARACTER? WE'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW HIM OVER THE LAST 30 MINUTES OR SO AND WE'RE REALLY ENJOYING IT. I THINK THE PUBLIC AT LARGE KNOWS THAT HE'S A LONG HITTER AND MAYBE THE GUY

WHO WILL CHALLENGE TIGER, WE DON'T KNOW. THEY KNOW HE'S POLITE TO A FAULT, BUT YOU KNOW HIM SO WELL, HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE HIS CHARACTER? ... WITHOUT MAKING HIM BLUSH RIGHT HERE.

CHARLES HOWELL III
(LAUGHS)

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
(LAUGHS). WELL THAT'S TOUGH IN FRONT OF MILLIONS OF VIEWERS, BUT I, I THINK THAT THE THING IS RICH, INSIDE CHARLES, I THINK, CHARLES HAS ALWAYS KNOWN THAT HEY HE, THERE'S, THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIAL ABOUT HIS GOLF GAME, AND LISTEN THERE'S MANY FINE

YOUNG PLAYERS AROUND RIGHT NOW. OBVIOUSLY WE'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, THE DAVID GOSSETS (?) AND THE ADAM SCOTTS AND AARON BADLEYS AND THE SERGIO GARCIAS OBVIOUSLY AND JUSTIN ROSES'

AND YOU KNOW THERE'S A WHOLE NEW ERA SORT OF, BEING CREATED RIGHT HERE AND THESE YOUNG PLAYERS OBVIOUSLY LOOKING AT TIGER AND THINKING HEY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO ACHIEVE, BUT WITH

CHARLES THERE'S A, THERE'S A BURNING DESIRE INSIDE TO BE NUMBER ONE AND HIS, HIS WORK ETHIC IS UNBELIEVABLE AND IN FACT, OVER THE YEARS, I MEAN I THINK HIS DAD, IN PARTICULAR AND ME TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, WE'VE ALMOST HAD TO SORT OF GET HIM TO, PUT HIM OFF THE PRACTICE TEE BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, NOW WITH CHARLES GETTING MARRIED I THINK IT'S REALLY GOING TO

HELP HIM TO BE A SORT OF A MORE WELL ROUNDED, WELL BALANCED INDIVIDUAL, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET BURNED OUT TO SOME EXTENT AND I THINK CHARLES REALIZES NOW THAT HEY, WHAT HE'S DOING, I MEAN, HEY

IT'S FUN, IT'S EXCITING BUT YOU'VE GOT TO WATCH THE BURN OUT SITUATION AND THE THINGS WITH CHARLES, HE'S, HE'S SUCH A SMART INDIVIDUAL THAT I THINK HE'S LEARNING ALL THE TIME AND THAT'S THE BIG KEY AND ALTHOUGH HE HASN'T

WON YET HE'S CERTAINLY LEARNING WHAT HE HAS TO DO IN ORDER TO WIN AND I THINK WHEN HE STARTS WINNING THAT WAS JUST A CASE OF HEY THE FLOOD GATES ARE GOING TO OPEN FOR SURE.

RICH LERNER
SO, WHERE THE BURN OUT ISSUE IS CONCERNED, I KNOW YOU WERE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT HE DID NOT TOUCH A CLUB FOR THE LAST, WHAT, TWO DAYS, CHARLIE?

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
(LAUGHING)

CHARLES HOWELL III
UH WELL JUST TODAY.

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
THAT'S ALMOST A RITUAL , ISN'T IT CHARLES?

RICH LERNER
YEAH, WELL LEAD THANKS VERY MUCH AS ALWAYS FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT. YOU HAVE ALWAYS MADE YOUR TIME AVAILABLE TO THE GOLF CHANNEL AND WE APPRECIATE IT GREATLY.

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
THANKS RICH.

CHARLES I'LL SEE YOU SHORTLY.

CHARLES HOWELL III
THANKS DAVID... ALRIGHT, SEE YOU IN A COUPLE DAYS.

RICH LERNER
TAKE CARE.

DAVID LEADBETTER (MALE):
OKAY

RICH LERNER
THAT IS DAVID LEADBETTER AND WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK. THAT WAS NICE OF LEAD.

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH THAT WAS GREAT

RICH LERNER
TO, TO PHONE IN. (LAUGHS) ALRIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK AND AS WE HEAD TO THIS BRIEF TIME OUT WE WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS MAGNIFICENT SHOT FROM CHARLIE AT

THE JOHN DEERE CLASSIC A YEAR AGO WHERE HE GAVE US SOME FLASHES OF WHAT WE ARE NOW SEEING. FINISHED THIRD IN THAT TOURNAMENT. WE'RE BACK IN JUST A MOMENT.

(MUSIC)

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Monty grabs lead entering final round in season-opener

By Associated PressJanuary 20, 2018, 4:00 am

KAILUA-KONA, Hawaii – Colin Montgomerie shot a second straight 7-under 65 to take a two-shot lead into the final round of the Mitsubishi Electric Championship, the season opener on the PGA Tour Champions.

The 54-year-old Scot, a six-time winner on the over-50 tour, didn't miss a fairway on Friday and made five birdies on the back nine to reach 14 under at Hualalai.

Montgomerie has made 17 birdies through 36 holes and said he will have to continue cashing in on his opportunities.

''We know that I've got to score something similar to what I've done – 66, 67, something like that, at least,'' Montgomerie said. ''You know the competition out here is so strong that if you do play away from the pins, you'll get run over. It's tough, but hey, it's great.''


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First-round co-leaders Gene Sauers and Jerry Kelly each shot 68 and were 12 under.

''I hit the ball really well. You know, all the putts that dropped yesterday didn't drop today,'' Kelly said. ''I was just short and burning edges. It was good putting again. They just didn't go in.''

David Toms was three shots back after a 66. Woody Austin, Mark Calcavecchia and Doug Garwood each shot 67 and were another shot behind.

Bernhard Langer, defending the first of his seven 2017 titles, was six shots back after a 67.

The limited-field tournament on Hawaii's Big Island includes last season's winners, past champions of the event, major champions and Hall of Famers.

''We've enjoyed ourselves thoroughly here,'' Montgomerie said. ''It's just a dramatic spot, isn't it? If you don't like this, well, I'm sorry, take a good look in the mirror, you know?''

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The missing link: Advice from successful tour pros

By Phil BlackmarJanuary 20, 2018, 1:24 am

Today’s topic is significant in that it underscores the direction golf is headed, a direction that has me a little concerned.

Now, more than ever, it has become the norm for PGA Tour players to put together a team to assist in all aspects of their career. These teams can typically include the player’s swing coach, mental coach, manager, workout specialist, dietician, physical therapist, short-game guru, doctor, accountant, nanny and wife. Though it often concerns me the player may be missing out when others are making decisions for them, that is not the topic.

I want to talk about what most players seem to be inexplicably leaving off their teams.

One of the things that separates great players from the rest of the pack – other than talent – is the great player’s ability to routinely stay comfortable and play with focus and clarity in all situations. Though innate to many, this skill is trainable and can be learned. Don’t get too excited, the details of such a plan are too long and more suited for a book than the short confines of this article.

So, if that aspect of the game is so important, where is the representative on the player’s team who has stood on the 18th tee with everything on the line? Where is the representative on the team who has experienced, over and over, what the player will be experiencing? In other words, where is the successful former tour player on the team?

You look to tennis and many players have such a person on their team. These teacher/mentors include the likes of Boris Becker, Ivan Lendl, Jimmy Connors and Brad Gilbert. Why is it not the norm in golf?

Sure, a few players have sought out the advice of Jack Nicklaus, but he’s not part of a team. The teaching ranks also include some former players like Butch Harmon and a few others. But how many teams include a player who has contended in a major, let alone won one or more?

I’m not here to argue the value and knowledge of all the other coaches who make up a player’s team. But how can the value of a successful tour professional be overlooked? If I’m going to ask someone what I should do in various situations on the course, I would prefer to include the experienced knowledge of players who have been there themselves.

This leads me to the second part of today’s message. Is there a need for the professional players to mix with professional teachers to deliver the best and most comprehensive teaching philosophy to average players? I feel there is.

Most lessons are concerned with changing the student’s swing. Often, this is done with little regard for how it feels to the student because the teacher believes the information is correct and more important than the “feels” of the student. “Stick with it until it’s comfortable” is often the message. This directive methodology was put on Twitter for public consumption a short time back:

On the other hand, the professional player is an expert at making a score and understands the intangible side of the game. The intangible side says: “Mechanics cannot stand alone in making a good player.” The intangible side understands “people feel things differently”; ask Jim Furyk to swing like Dustin Johnson, or vice versa. This means something that looks good to us may not feel right to someone else.

The intangible side lets us know that mechanics and feels must walk together in order for the player to succeed. From Ben Hogan’s book:

“What I have learned I have learned by laborious trial and error, watching a good player do something that looked right to me, stumbling across something that felt right to me, experimenting with that something to see if it helped or hindered, adopting it if it helped, refining it sometimes, discarding it if it didn’t help, sometimes discarding it later if it proved undependable in competition, experimenting continually with new ideas and old ideas and all manner of variations until I arrived at a set of fundamentals that appeared to me to be right because they accomplished a very definite purpose, a set of fundamentals which proved to me they were right because they stood up and produced under all kinds of pressure.”

Hogan beautifully described the learning process that could develop the swings of great players like DJ, Furyk, Lee Trevino, Jordan Spieth, Nicklaus, etc.

Bob Toski is still teaching. Steve Elkington is helping to bring us the insight of Jackie Burke. Hal Sutton has a beautiful teaching facility outside of Houston. And so on. Just like mechanics and feels, it’s not either-or – the best message comes from both teachers and players.

Lately, it seems the scale has swung more to one side; let us not forget the value of insights brought to us by the players who have best mastered the game.

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Woods, Rahm, Rickie, J-Day headline Torrey field

By Golf Channel DigitalJanuary 20, 2018, 12:47 am

Tiger Woods is set to make his 2018 debut.

Woods is still part of the final field list for next week’s Farmers Insurance Open, the headliner of a tournament that includes defending champion Jon Rahm, Hideki Matsuyama, Justin Rose, Rickie Fowler, Phil Mickelson and Jason Day.

In all, 12 of the top 26 players in the world are teeing it up at Torrey Pines.

Though Woods has won eight times at Torrey Pines, he hasn’t broken 71 in his past seven rounds there and hasn’t played all four rounds since 2013, when he won. Last year he missed the cut after rounds of 76-72, then lasted just one round in Dubai before he withdrew with back spasms.

After a fourth back surgery, Woods didn’t return to competition until last month’s Hero World Challenge, where he tied for ninth. 

Woods has committed to play both the Farmers Insurance Open and next month's Genesis Open at Riviera, which benefits his foundation. 

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Even on 'off' day, Rahm shoots 67 at CareerBuilder

By Ryan LavnerJanuary 20, 2018, 12:36 am

Jon Rahm didn’t strike the ball as purely Friday as he did during his opening round at the CareerBuilder Challenge.

He still managed a 5-under 67 that put him just one shot off the lead heading into the weekend.

“I expected myself to go to the range (this morning) and keep flushing everything like I did yesterday,” said Rahm, who shot a career-low 62 at La Quinta on Thursday. “Everything was just a little bit off. It was just one of those days.”


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After going bogey-free on Thursday, Rahm mixed four birdies and two bogeys over his opening six holes. He managed to settle down around the turn, then made two birdies on his final three holes to move within one shot of Andrew Landry (65).

Rahm has missed only five greens through two rounds and sits at 15-under 129. 

The 23-year-old Spaniard won in Dubai to end the year and opened 2018 with a runner-up finish at the Sentry Tournament of Champions. He needs a top-6 finish or better this week to supplant Jordan Spieth as the No. 2 player in the world.