Golf Talk Live -Curtis Strange Transcript Segment 2
WHEN YOUR DAD PASSED AWAY WHEN YOU WERE 14, DID YOU LOOSE YOUR WAY ON OR OFF THE GOLF COURSE AT ALL FOR A WHILE?
WELL I THINK AL AND I AND MY SISTER ANN WERE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY DEVASTATED, I MEAN THERE'S NO WAY TO, TO PUT INTO WORDS WHAT YOU GO THROUGH AT A TIME LIKE THAT. BECAUSE HE LET ME COME TO THE GAME ON MY OWN TERMS AND I FELL IN LOVE WITH THE
GAME MY OWN WAY UH... YEAH I FELT LIKE THE GAME AND, AND LIFE HAD TAKEN HIM FROM US, BUT YOU KNOW, IT WAS, HE HAD ALREADY ETCHED IN STONE, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO WITH THIS GAME. I MEAN I WAS GOING TO CONTINUE TO PLAY, PLAY AS HARD AS I WAS GOING TO PLAY. I ALREADY LOVED
IT ENOUGH TO TRY TO BE THE BEST AND IMPROVE MY SWING EVERYDAY AND GRIP AND ALL THOSE THINGS YOU DO BEFORE YOU'RE 14 YEARS OLD, AND, AND, AND, AND I WAS GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND I DID. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT AT THAT TIME, IS, IS I THOUGHT I
KNEW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE GOLF SWING. AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU NEED GUIDANCE. YOU NEED SOMEBODY TO, TO LOOK AT YOU ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR. I DON'T, I'M NOT A REAL FAN OF THESE COACHES NOW WITH THESE
KIDS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THEM EVERY OTHER DAY AND THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE I THINK KIDS BURN OUT IF YOU BRING THE KID TO THE GAME ON THEIR OWN TERMS AND IF THEY TRULY
FALL IN LOVE WITH IT LIKE I DID AND LOVED EVERYTHING ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE AND LOVED EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERY DAY, AT BOW CREEK OR WHITE SANDS THEN, YOU KNOW, I WAS GOING TO, ALWAYS BE IN LOVE WITH IT AND SO, THAT'S WHEN MR. HARPER CAME
IN. CHANDLER HARPER. HE WAS, YOU KNOW, A HALL OF FAMER AT THE TIME. LIVED ACROSS TOWN AND, AND ONE OF THE LAST OF DAD'S WISHES TO MOM WAS TO MAKE SURE CURTIS GETS HELP FROM CHANDLER.
BOTH OF YOUR SONS ARE OLDER THAN YOU WERE WHEN YOUR DAD PASSED AWAY, DO YOU THINK SOMETIMES THAT YOU GOT CHEATED OUT OF THE FRIENDSHIP AND THE GOLF THAT WAS JUST STARTING TO BLOSSOM WHEN YOU WERE 14 BY VIRTUE OF THE RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU HAVE WITH YOUR OWN KIDS?
NO. HE'S THE ONE THAT GOT CHEATED... BY DIEING AT 38.
IN WHAT WAY DO YOU FEEL THAT? THAT HE DIDN'T GET TO SEE THE THINGS THAT YOU AND YOUR BROTHER DID?
NO, HE DIDN'T GET TO LIVE THE LIFE THAT HE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE LIVED. YOU KNOW, HE WAS JUST IN THE PROCESS OF, OF BUYING THE WHITE SANDS COUNTY CLUB. HE WAS A WONDERFUL PLAYER IN HIS OWN RIGHT, A FIVE TIME, FOUR TIME
STATE UH STATE OPEN CHAMPION OF VIRGINIA. YOU KNOW, LATER, RECENTLY HE'S BECOME THE VIRGINIA, VIRGINIA HALL OF FAME, MID-ATLANTIC PGA HALL OF FAME, SO YOU KNOW, HE HAD A LOT OF LIFE AND GOLF AHEAD OF HIM, AND US TOO. TWIN BOYS AND MOM AND ANNE. HE HAD A
LONG LIFE WITH US, AND I THINK SOMETIMES I LOOK BACK ON IT. I CAN'T IMAGINE A FATHER LOOKING AT HIS SON WHO BECOMES, YOU KNOW, A VERY, VERY GOOD PLAYER AT ANYTHING. SUCCESSFUL. YOU KNOW THE BOND AND HOW PROUD THAT FATHER MUST BE.
WHEN YOUR DAD WORKED FOR SAM SNEAD AT THE GREEN BRIAR, HE OBVIOUSLY LEARNED A LOT ABOUT SAM'S SWING. A LOT ABOUT GOLF.
WHAT GOT PASSED ON TO YOU FROM THAT TOM STRANGE, SAM SNEAD CONNECTION?
WELL I THINK JUST THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO HANG AROUND SAM A LITTLE BIT OVER THE YEARS. THERE WAS ALWAYS A CONNECTION THERE BECAUSE OF DAD AND, AND SAM HAS BEEN, HE'S ONE OF THE PHONE CALLS I RECEIVED AFTER THE
OPEN, AND, YOU KNOW, SAM HAS JUST BEEN WONDERFUL. HE'S BEEN MY, KIND OF HERO. SWING, KIND OF MODEL OVER THE YEARS. NOT A BAD ONE TO HAVE. ALAN AND I, WE WERE KIDS ON THE GOLF COURSE, NOT TO BORE EVERYBODY, BUT
WE WERE KIDS ON THE GOLF COURSE AFTER DAD DIED, AND WE WOULD ALWAYS SAY, WELL SAM DIDN'T DO THIS OR SAM DOES THIS IN THE GOLF SWING AND I'VE SAID TO BOTH MY BOYS AS THEY GREW UP. I SAID IF SAM SNEAD DIDN'T DO IT, IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE MODEL I'VE ALWAYS USED WITH SAM. HE'S, HE'S BEEN WONDERFUL.
DO YOU EVER HAVE TROUBLE IN YOUR OWN HEAD WITH YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR BROTHER IN THAT YOU BECAME THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD, AND HE DIDN'T? DID IT AFFECT THE RELATIONSHIP OR THE WAY IN WHICH YOU TREAT EACH OTHER?
NO, I THINK IF, IF ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, AS BROTHERS GROWING UP, YOU'RE NOT REAL CLOSE. WE CERTAINLY HAD OUR FIGHTS, BUT HE WAS A WONDERFUL ATHLETE. HE PLAYED OTHER SPORTS
AND I PLAYED GOLF AND BASKETBALL AND THEN HE PLAYED GOLF IN COLLEGE AND WENT ON TO PLAY ON TOUR IN '81, BUT EVER SINCE THEN, EVER SINCE HE QUIT AFTER '81, WE HAVE BEEN VERY CLOSE IN THAT HE HAS BEEN ONE OF MY
BIGGEST FANS AND, AND I HAD WORE HIM OUT BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE TIME I HAVE COME HOME FROM THE RICHMOND AIRPORT IN THE LAST 22 YEARS, I WOULD CALL HIM LATE SUNDAY NIGHT OR EARLY MONDAY MORNING AND WE WOULD
DISCUSS HOW I PLAYED WELL OR HOW I SCREWED UP AND WHAT'S BEEN SO GOOD IS THAT HE WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE TO TELL ME HOW BAD I SCREWED UP, SO, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN FUN OVER THE YEARS, BUT EVERY SINGLE TIME I'VE MADE THAT PHONE CALL.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH CURTIS, DON'T GO AWAY.
WITH ANOTHER PHONE.
(PETER AND CURTIS LAUGH)
Montana parents can't watch kids play high school golf
Well, this is a one new one.
According to a report from KTVQ in Montana, this line in the Montana State High School Association rule book all but forbids spectators from observing high school golf in that state:
“No spectators/fans are allowed on the course except for certain locations as designated by the tournament manager and club professional.”
Part of the issue, according to the report, is that most courses don't bother to designate those "certain locations" leaving parents unable to watch their kids compete.
“If you tell a parent that they can’t watch their kid play in the Thanksgiving Day football game, they would riot,” Chris Kelley, a high school golf parent, told KTVQ.
The report lists illegal outside coaching as one of the rule's chief motivations, but Montana State women's golf coach Brittany Basye doesn't quite buy that.
“I can go to a softball game and I can sit right behind the pitcher. I can make hand signals,” she is quoted in the report. “I can yell out names. I can do the same thing on a softball field that might affect that kid. Football games we can yell as loud as we want when someone is making a pass or a catch.”
The MHSA has argued that unlike other sports that are played in a confined area, the sprawling nature of a golf course would make it difficult to hire enough marshals to keep unruly spectators in check.
Meanwhile, there's a lawyer quoted in the report claiming this is some kind of civil rights issue.
Worth note, Montana is one of only two states that doesn't allow spectators on the course. The other state, Alaska, does not offer high school golf.
PGA Tour suspends Hensby for anti-doping violation
Mark Hensby has been suspended for one year by the PGA Tour for violating the Tour’s anti-doping policy by failing to provide a sample after notification.
The Tour made the announcement Monday, reporting that Hensby will be eligible to return on Oct. 26, 2018.
The statement reads:
The PGA Tour announced today that Mark Hensby has violated the Tour Anti-Doping Policy for failing to provide a drug testing sample after notification and has been suspended for a period of one year. He will be eligible to return on Oct. 26, 2018.
Hensby, 46, won the John Deere Classic in 2004. He played the Web.com Tour this past year, playing just 14 events. He finished 142nd on the money list. He once ranked among the top 30 in the Official World Golf Ranking but ranks No. 1,623 today.
The Sunshine Tour recently suspended player Etienne Bond for one year for failing a drug test. Players previously suspended by the PGA Tour for violating the anti-doping policy include Scott Stallings and Doug Barron.
The PGA Tour implemented revisions to its anti-doping program with the start of the 2017-18 season. The revisions include blood testing and the supplementation of the Tour’s prohibited list to include all of the substances and methods on the World Anti-Doping Agency prohibited list. As part of this season’s revisions, the Tour announced it would also begin reporting suspensions due to recreational drug use.
The Tour said it would not issue further comment on Hensby's suspension.
Good time to hang up on viewer call-ins
Golf announced the most massive layoff in the industry’s history on Monday morning.
Armchair referees around the world were given their pink slips.
It’s a glorious jettisoning of unsolicited help.
Goodbye and good riddance.
The USGA and R&A’s announcement of a new set of protocols Monday will end the practice of viewer call-ins and emails in the reporting of rules infractions.
“What we have heard from players and committees is ‘Let’s leave the rules and administration of the event to the players and those responsible for running the tournament,’” said Thomas Pagel, the USGA’s senior director of rules and amateur status.
The protocols, formed by a working group that included the PGA Tour, LPGA, European Tour, Ladies European Tour and the PGA of America, also establish the use of rules officials to monitor the televised broadcasts of events.
Additionally, the protocols will eliminate the two-shot penalty when a player signs an incorrect scorecard because the player was unaware of a violation.
Yes, I can hear you folks saying armchair rules officials help make sure every meaningful infraction comes to light. I hear you saying they make the game better, more honest, by helping reduce the possibility somebody violates the rules to win.
But at what cost?
The chaos and mayhem armchair referees create can ruin the spirit of fair play every bit as much as an unreported violation. The chaos and mayhem armchair rules officials create can be as much a threat to fair play as the violations themselves.
The Rules of Golf are devised to protect the integrity of the game, but perfectly good rules can be undermined by the manner and timeliness of their enforcement.
We have seen the intervention of armchair referees go beyond the ruin of fair play in how a tournament should be conducted. We have seen it threaten the credibility of the game in the eyes of fans who can’t fathom the stupidity of a sport that cannot separate common-sense enforcement from absolute devotion to the letter of the law.
In other sports, video review’s timely use helps officials get it right. In golf, video review too often makes it feel like the sport is getting it wrong, because timeliness matters in the spirit of fair play, because the retroactive nature of some punishments are as egregious as the violations themselves.
We saw that with Lexi Thompson at the ANA Inspiration this year.
Yes, she deserved a two-shot penalty for improperly marking her ball, but she didn’t deserve the two-shot penalty for signing an incorrect scorecard. She had no idea she was signing an incorrect scorecard.
We nearly saw the ruin of the U.S. Open at Oakmont last year, with Dustin Johnson’s victory clouded by the timing of a video review that left us all uncertain if the tournament was playing out under an incorrect scoreboard.
“What these protocols are put in place for, really, is to make sure there are measures to identify the facts as soon as possible, in real time, so if there is an issue to be dealt with, that it can be handled quickly and decisively,” Pagel said.
We have pounded the USGA for making the game more complicated and less enjoyable than it ought to be, for creating controversy where common sense should prevail, so let’s applaud executive director Mike Davis, as well as the R&A, for putting common sense in play.
Yes, this isn’t a perfect answer to handling rules violations.
There are trap doors in the protocols that we are bound to see the game stumble into, because the game is so complex, but this is more than a good faith effort to make the game better.
This is good governance.
And compared to the glacial pace of major rules change of the past, this is swift.
This is the USGA and R&A leading a charge.
We’re seeing that with the radical modernization of the Rules of Golf scheduled to take effect in 2019. We saw it with the release of Decision 34/3-10 three weeks after Thompson’s loss at the ANA, with the decision limiting video review to “reasonable judgment” and “naked eye” standards. We’re hearing it with Davis’ recent comments about the “horrible” impact distance is having on the game, leading us to wonder if the USGA is in some way gearing up to take on the golf ball.
Yes, the new video review protocols aren’t a panacea. Rules officials will still miss violations that should have been caught. There will be questions about level playing fields, about the fairness of stars getting more video review scrutiny than the rank and file. There will be questions about whether viewer complaints were relayed to rules officials.
Golf, they say, isn’t a game of perfect, and neither is rules enforcement, though these protocols make too much sense to be pilloried. They should be applauded. They should solve a lot more problems than they create.
Lexi 'applaud's USGA, R&A for rules change
Lexi Thompson’s pain may prove to be the rest of golf’s gain.
David Rickman, the R&A’s executive director of governance, acknowledged on Golf Channel’s "Morning Drive" Monday that the new protocols that will eliminate the use of TV viewer call-ins and emails to apply penalties was hastened by the controversy following Thompson’s four-shot penalty at the ANA Inspiration in early April. The new protocols also set up rules officials to monitor TV broadcasts beginning next year.
“Clearly, that case has been something of a focus point for us,” Rickman said.
Thompson reacted to the new protocols in an Instagram post.
“I applaud the USGA and the R&A for their willingness to revise the Rules of Golf to address certain unfortunate situations that have arisen several times in the game of golf,” Thompson wrote. “In my case, I am thankful no one else will have to deal with an outcome such as mine in the future.”
Thompson was penalized two shots for improperly returning her ball to its mark on a green during Saturday’s round after a viewer emailed LPGA officials during Sunday’s broadcast. She was penalized two more shots for signing an incorrect scorecard for her Saturday round. Thompson ultimately lost in a playoff to So Yeon Ryu.
The new protocols will also eliminate the additional two-shot penalty a player receives for failing to include a penalty when a player was unaware of the penalty.
Shortly after the ANA Inspiration, the USGA and R&A led the formation of a video review working group, which included the PGA Tour, LPGA, European Tour, Ladies European Tour and PGA of America.
Also, just three weeks after Thompson was hit with the four-shot penalty, the USGA and R&A released a new Rules of Golf decision decision (34-3/10) limiting video evidence in two ways:
1. If an infraction can’t be seen with the naked eye, there’s no penalty, even if video shows otherwise.
2. If a tournament committee determines that a player does “all that can be reasonably expected to make an accurate estimation or measurement” in determining a line or position to play from or to spot a ball, then there will be no penalty even if video replay later shows that to be wrong.
While the USGA and R&A said the new decision wasn’t based on Thompson’s ANA incident, LPGA players immediately began calling it the “Lexi Rule.”