Golf Talk Live - Gene Sarazen Transcript Segment 6

By Golf Channel DigitalOctober 28, 1996, 5:00 pm

PETER KESSLER

WE DIDN'T TALK AT ALL ABOUT COBB AND RUTH BUT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, TY COBB WAS THE FELLOW WHO TURNED YOU ONTO THAT LITTLE SECRET OR TRICK ABOUT SWINGING A WEIGHTED CLUB, SOMETHING YOU DID FOREVER.

GENE SARAZEN

WELL I DIDN'T DO IT FOREVER BUT UH HE GAVE ME AN IDEA AND I PUT SOME WEIGHT IN THE CLUB AND IT WAS, IT WAS A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE YOU KNOW I SPENT 35 YEARS ON A FARM AND I DIDN'T PLAY MUCH GOLF, BUT I USED TO TAKE THAT HEAVY CLUB AND SWING IT AND THAT DID MY SWING A LOT OF GOOD. BUT SPEAKING ABOUT TY COBB, I PLAYED WITH HIM, OH WAY BEFORE THE MASTERS AT THE AUGUSTA COUNTRY CLUB AND THE ONLY REASON WHY I CAN REMEMBER IS THAT WHEN WE GOT THROUGH ON THE LAST HOLE. WE WERE PLAYING WITH A FELLOW BY THE NAME OF ARTHUR BORNE, UH TY COBB

PETER KESSLER

FROM THE SINGER SEWING MACHINE? ARTHUR BORNE? YEAH.

GENE SARAZEN

WELL HE WAS A, HORTON SMITH MARRIED HIS DAUGHTER AND UH I'LL NEVER FORGET, SOMEBODY SAID TO TY COBB `YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TODAY?' AND TY SAYS 'WHAT?' HE SAYS ROGERS WAS KILLED IN AIR PLANE OUT IN THE NORTH POLE. WHAT DO YOU THINK HIS ANSWER WAS? HE SAID WELL THAT'S JUST THE WAY HE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT.

PETER KESSLER

YEAH HE WAS A NO NONSENSE GUY WASN'T HE? YOU PROBABLY GOT ALONG BECAUSE OF THAT A LITTLE BIT, DIDN'T YOU? YOU WERE NO NONSENSE TOO.

GENE SARAZEN

I DON'T SEE, I NEVER SAW MUCH OF TY COBB. HE WASN'T MY TYPE.

PETER KESSLER

NOW BUT YOU PLAYED, YOU PLAYED SOME GOLF WITH RUTH AND HE WASN'T VERY GOOD, RIGHT?

GENE SARAZEN

BABE RU.. OH THE WILD MAN

PETER KESSLER

BABE RUTH.

GENE SARAZEN

YEAH

PETER KESSLER

WHY DO YOU SUPPOSE GREAT BALL PLAYERS LIKE COBB AND RUTH WEREN'T ABLE TO TAKE THEIR SWING AND SOMEHOW ADJUST IT TO GOLF?

GENE SARAZEN

WELL I DON'T KNOW. RUTH WAS A SLUGGER AT GOLF AND A SLUGGER AT BASEBALL. UM, COBB WAS A MUCH BETTER PLAYER.

PETER KESSLER

AROUND THAT SAME TIME PERIOD, 1930-ISH OR SO, THE YEAR THAT JONES WON THE GRAND SLAM, WAS ALSO THE YEAR THAT YOU WON 8 TOURNAMENTS BUT THAT MUST HAVE GOTTEN OVER SHADOWED BECAUSE OF BOB'S ACHIEVEMENT AND THE FACT THAT HE RETIRED RIGHT AFTER THAT. HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT YOUR YEAR AND HIS YEAR?

GENE SARAZEN

WELL I, I DON'T REMEMBER WINNING 8 TOURNAMENTS IN ONE YEAR. UH THE ONE THAT, THE FELLOW THAT WON A LOT OF TOURNAMENTS IN ONE YEAR WAS BYRON NELSON. HE'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE WON ELEVEN.

PETER KESSLER

IT WAS YOUR RECORD HE BROKE.

GENE SARAZEN

WELL I NEVER KEPT THAT RECORD.

PETER KESSLER

THAT'S ALL RIGHT, BUT I, I WAS DOING THE HOMEWORK AND I WAS COUNTING UP 1930 AND I

GENE SARAZEN

YOU SURE, YOU SURE HAVE DONE A LOT OF HOMEWORK TONIGHT.

PETER KESSLER

NOW JONES, DID YOU PLAY AT AUGUSTA COUNTRY CLUB EARLY IN THE SEASON WHEN JONES WON BY 13 OR 15 SHOTS AND TY COBB GOT MAD AT HIM FOR SLACKING OFF AT THE END OF THE ROUND.

GENE SARAZEN

NO, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT.

PETER KESSLER

THAT WAS EARLY 1930 AND I THINK IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF JONES' LAST 5 TOURNAMENTS, NONE OF WHICH HE LOST BECAUSE HE ONLY REALLY PLAYED IN THE MAJORS THAT YEAR. WHAT WAS DIFFERENT ABOUT BOB IN THE 30'S DO YOU THINK?

GENE SARAZEN

WELL JONES USED TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME GETTING READY FOR THE BRITISH OPEN. I MEAN THE AMERICAN AMATEUR AND THE UH UH THE AMERICAN OPEN. HE WANTED TO WIN THE MAJORS AND HE DID AND HE'D GIVE IT A LOT OF TIME AT PRACTICE AND HE USED TO HAVE A, A TEACHER BY THE NAME OF STUART MAIDEN AND HE'D GO AROUND AND HE HAD TO HAVE STUART MAIDEN WITH HIM ALL THE TIME. I REMEMBER SEEING HIM AT SKOKIE IN 1922. WE WERE DOWN UNDER AN, BENEATH THE OAK TREE THERE PRACTICING AND THERE WAS STUART THERE TUNING HIM UP FOR THE OPEN.

PETER KESSLER

THAT WAS BEFORE THE DAYS WHEN EVERYBODY NOW A DAYS HAS THEIR TEACHER THAT THEY GO EVERYWHERE WITH. HEY SPEAKING OF WHICH, WHO TAUGHT MARY TO PLAY SUCH GOOD GOLF, THAT WHEN YOU LOST THE OPEN IN '34 BY A SHOT TO OLAN DUTRA AND YOU GOT OFF THE TRAIN AND YOU THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO SAY OH GENE I'M SO SORRY YOU LOST BY ONE SHOT. INSTEAD SHE TOLD YOU SHE SHOT 84. HER BEST ROUND, RIGHT?

GENE SARAZEN

THAT WAS A , THAT WAS A TOURNAMENT AT OAKMONT. I LOST THE OPEN TO UH TOMMY ARMOUR AND HARRY COOPER BY ONE SHOT, AND OF COURSE IN THOSE DAYS YOU DIDN'T MOTOR YOU HAD TO TAKE THE TRAIN AND WHEN I GOT TO PENNSYLVANIA STATION SHE MET ME AND I SAID, SHE DIDN'T WAIT FOR ME TO TELL HER THAT I LOST THE OPEN BECAUSE IN THOSE DAYS YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE RADIO OR ANYTHING, THEY HAD A NEWSPAPER AND SHE HADN'T LOOKED AT THE NEW. NEW YORK TIMES YET, AND UH SHE LOOKED AT ME, SHE SAYS WHAT DO YOU THINK I DID YESTERDAY? I SAYS WHAT? SHE SAYS I SHOT AN 84. I SAID WHAT DO YOU THINK I DID YESTERDAY? I LOST THE OPEN BY ONE STROKE. IT DIDN'T MEAN A THING TO HER.

PETER KESSLER

THAT'S GOOD SHE DIDN'T ASK YOU IF YOU BROKE 84. WE'LL TAKE A SHORT BREAK. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH GENE SARAZEN. DON'T GO AWAY.

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Rahm (62) fires career low round

By Will GrayJanuary 19, 2018, 12:03 am

The scores were predictably low during the opening round of the CareerBuilder Challenge, where the top-ranked player in the field currently sits atop the standings. Here's how things look after the first day in Palm Springs as Jon Rahm is out to an early advantage:

Leaderboard: Jon Rahm (-10), Austin Cook (-9), Andrew Landry (-9), Jason Kokrak (-9), Brandon Harkins (-8), Martin Piller (-8), Aaron Wise (-8), Beau Hossler (-8)

What it means: Rahm is coming off a runner-up finish two weeks ago at Kapalua, and he picked up right where he left off with a 10-under 62 at La Quinta Country Club. It marked his lowest career round on the PGA Tour, and it gave him a one-shot lead heading to the Nicklaus Tournament Course. Cook is the only player within two shots of Rahm who has won already on Tour.

Round of the day: Rahm got off to a fast start, playing his first seven holes in 6 under, and he made it around La Quinta without dropping a shot. The 62 bettered his previous career low on Tour by two shots and it included an eagle on the par-5 fifth hole to go along with eight birdies.

Best of the rest: Cook was a winner earlier this season at the RSM Classic, and he's now in the mix for trophy No. 2 following a 9-under 63 on the Nicklaus Tournament Course. Like Rahm, he opened with a seven-hole stretch at 6 under and turned in a scorecard without a bogey. He'll now head to the more difficult Stadium Course for his second round.

Biggest disappointment: Patrick Reed blitzed the three-course rotation in Palm Springs en route to his first career Tour title back in 2014, but he's unlikely to repeat that feat after opening with a 2-over 74 on the Nicklaus Tournament course. Reed made only one birdie against three bogeys and was one of only 32 players in the 156-man field who failed to break par in the opening round.

Main storyline heading into Friday: Rahm deserves the spotlight, as he entered the week as one of the event's headliners and did nothing to lose that billing in the opening round. But the pack of contenders is sure to keep pace, while players like Phil Mickelson (-2) will look to put up a low score in order to build some momentum heading into the weekend.

Shot of the day: Wesley Bryan's 7-under 65 on the Nicklaus Tournament course was helped in large part by an eagle on the par-4 10th, where he holed a 54-degree wedge from 112 yards away. Bryan went on to birdie the next hole amid a five-hole stretch of 5 under play.

Quote of the day: "Shot 10 under par. There's not much more I can ask for." - Rahm

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Recent winner Cook contending at CareerBuilder

By Will GrayJanuary 18, 2018, 11:45 pm

Patton Kizzire is currently the only two-time PGA Tour winner this season, but Austin Cook hopes to join him this week at the CareerBuilder Challenge.

Cook won for the first time in November at the RSM Classic, a victory that catapaulted him from the Web.com Tour graduate category into an entirely new echelon. Cook notched a pair of top-25 finishes over the last two weeks in Hawaii, and he's again in the mix after an opening 63 on the Nicklaus Tournament Course left him one shot behind Jon Rahm.

"Today was great," Cook told reporters. "The conditions were perfect, but I always loved desert golf and I was just hitting the ball well and seeing good lines on the greens and hitting good putts."

Cook got off to a fast start, playing his first seven holes in 6 under highlighted by an eagle on the par-5 fourth hole. He briefly entertained the notion of a sub-60 round after birdies on Nos. 10 and 11 before closing with six pars and a birdie.


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Cook was a relative unknown before his victory at Sea Island earlier this season, but now with the flexibility and confidence afforded by a win he hopes to build on his burgeoning momentum this week in California.

"That was a big, proud moment for myself, knowing that I can finish a tournament," Cook said. "I think it was one of those things that I've proven to myself that now I can do it, and it just meant the world to me."

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Photo: Fleetwood's phone cover is picture of Bjorn

By Jason CrookJanuary 18, 2018, 11:40 pm

There's phone covers and then there are Phone Covers.

Paul Casey has himself a Phone Cover, showing off the protective case that features a picture of his wife at last year's U.S. Open.

Now, it appears, Tommy Fleetwood has joined the movement.

Fleetwood, last year's season-long Race to Dubai winner, has a phone cover with a picture of Ryder Cup captain Thomas Bjorn on it. And not even a current Thomas Bjorn. This is a young Bjorn. A hair-having Bjorn.

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The 26-year-old is a virtual lock for this year's European Ryder Cup team, but just in case, he's carrying around a phone with a picture of the team captain attached to the back of it.

It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.

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Mickelson starts fast, fades to 70 at La Quinta

By Will GrayJanuary 18, 2018, 11:07 pm

Phil Mickelson got off to a fast start in his first competitive round of 2018 - for six holes, at least.

The 47-year-old is making his first start since the WGC-HSBC Champions this week at the CareerBuilder Challenge, and only his third competitive appearance since the BMW Championship in September. Four birdies over his first six holes indicated that a strong opener might be in the cards, but Mickelson played his subsequent holes in 2 over.

It added up to a 2-under 70 at La Quinta Country Club, typically the easiest of the three courses in rotation this week, and left Mickelson eight shots behind Jon Rahm.

"It was fun to get back out and be competitive," Mickelson told reporters. "I for some reason am stuck on 70 here at La Quinta, whether I get off to a good start or a bad one, I end up shooting the same score."


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Mickelson stunted his momentum with a tee shot out of bounds on the par-4 eighth hole, but he managed to save bogey and otherwise drove the ball relatively well. Instead, he pointed to his normally reliable iron play as the culprit for his back-nine backslide on a day when more than 120 players in the 156-man field broke par.

Mickelson will now head to the Nicklaus Tournament Course with the Stadium Course on tap for Saturday's third round. While there were several low scores Thursday at La Quinta, Mickelson remains bullish about the birdie opportunities that still lie ahead.

"This isn't the course where I go low on," Mickelson said. "I feel more comfortable on Stadium and Nicklaus. Neither of them are nearly as tight and I tend to score a lot lower on those other two than I do here, historically."