Golf Talk Live - Goosen Gossett Transcript Segment 3

By Golf Channel DigitalAugust 14, 2001, 4:00 pm
PETER KESSLER
DID YOU EVER HAVE ANY REASON TO THINK AFTER WARMING UP AND WALKING TO THE FIRST TEE OF THE PLAYOFF THAT YOUR LONG GAME WASN'T GOING TO BE UNDER THE USUAL CONTROL THAT YOU'RE ACCUSTOMED TO?

RETIEF GOOSEN
WELL I UH, I STARTED OFF A LITTLE BIT SHAKY. ACTUALLY ON THIS FIRST HOLE, I HAD A VERY GOOD TEE SHOT, AND A VERY GOOD SECOND SHOT. I JUST UNDER CLUBBED REALLY. THE SECOND HOLE I HAD A BAD DRIVE.

PETER KESSLER
WELL HANG ON, BEFORE YOU GO, BEFORE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, THE BUNKER SHOT WHICH YOU LEFT OUT WHICH IS MAYBE ONE OF THE BEST SHOTS ANY OF US HAD EVER SEEN HIT SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND, AND PICK IT UP FROM THAT FIRST HOLE OF THE PLAY OFF.

RETIEF GOOSEN
IT WASN'T REALLY THAT DIFFICULT BUNKER SHOT, FUNNY ENOUGH. ALL I HAVE TO DO IS JUST GET IT OUT OF THE BUNKER AND IT WAS GOING TO JUST FEED DOWN THE SLOPE. I'M GOING TO LOOK, PROBABLY AROUND TEN YARDS TO GET TO THE HOLE. I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING IN AND SOME REASON IT JUST MISSED... BUT

PETER KESSLER
HOLD IT

RETIEF GOOSEN
UM, YOU KNOW THE SECOND HOLE I DROVE IT IN THE ROUGH AND I CHIPPED OUT AND HIT A VERY GOOD 8 IRON AND THAT'S MY THIRD AND HOLED A GOOD PUTT FOR PAR, AND THEN I SORT OF STARTED SETTLING DOWN AND FELT VERY COMFORTABLE.

PETER KESSLER
YOU KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT NOTHING'S MORE UNSETTLING TO YOUR OPPONENT IN MATCH PLAY THAN IF YOU MISS EVERYTHING TEE TO GREEN A LITTLE BIT FOR A WHILE AND MAKE EVERY SINGLE PUTT FOR EITHER PAR OR BIRDIE.

DOESN'T THAT REALLY UPSET THE BALANCE OF THE OTHER FELLOWS INSIDES?

RETIEF GOOSEN
YEAH, THE THING ABOUT MATCH PLAY, YOU GOT TO ALWAYS EXPECT YOUR OLD PARTNER TO MAKE HIS SHOT AND ALWAYS EXPECT HIM TO MAKE A BETTER SCORE THAN YOU AND JUST TRY AND HANG ON

TO THAT AND IF YOU HAPPEN TO WIN A HOLE THAN YOU, YOU KNOW, THEN, THEN IT'S GREAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HIT A BAD SEVEN IRON IN ON THE THIRD PLUGGED LIE AND HIT A PRETTY GOOD SHOT OUT, PROBABLY (??) BE NOT A GOOD PUTT SO, BUT MARK MADE A GREAT BIRDIE THERE SO HE WENT ONE AHEAD.

BUT I KNEW, YOU KNOW, I HAD A LONG WAY TO GO AND THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE INVOLVED.

PETER KESSLER
IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE YOU FELT ANY PRESSURE ON THE GREENS. I THINK YOU HAD ELEVEN PUTTS THE FIRST NINE HOLES, DIDN'T YOU?

RETIEF GOOSEN
YES

PETER KESSLER
AND THEY WERE ALL GOING IN PRETTY MUCH LIKE THAT ONE AS THOUGH THE HOLE WAS A CIRCLE AND NOT A HOLE WHEN IT STOPPED IN THE CENTER OF THE CIRCLE.

RETIEF GOOSEN
ON THE INSIDE YOU'RE NERVOUS. IT'S, IT'S ALL PART OF THE GAME, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, I MADE A FEW VERY GOOD UP AND DOWNS, SO I MUST ADMIT BUT YOU KNOW THAT'S PART OF WINNING GOLF

TOURNAMENTS. YOU DON'T WIN GOLF TOURNAMENTS IF YOU DON'T HAVE GOOD CHIP AND PUTTS HERE AND THERE AND, IT WAS NICE TO HANG IN THERE YOU KNOW AND REALLY THE TURNING HOLES WAS NINE AND TEN WHEN, WHEN

HE MADE TWO BOGIES AND THIS WAS A TOUGH PUTT. I HIT IT ABOUT TWO YARDS LEFT OF THE HOLE AND JUST LET IT SOMEHOW GET DOWN TO THE HOLE. IT WAS SIMILAR PUTT I HAD AT NUMBER TEN TO MAKE.

PETER KESSLER
WERE YOU STARTING TO FEEL AT THAT POINT THAT YOU'D GOTTEN YOUR SWING UNDER CONTROL, WHATEVER MECHANICAL MISFUNCTION WAS GOING ON EARLY WAS NOW GONE AND YOU WERE YOURSELF AGAIN?

RETIEF GOOSEN
YEAH, I, I SORT OF, YOU KNOW, FELT LIKE I GOT INTO THE GROOVE THAT I WAS THE REST OF THE TOURNAMENT AND IF I CAN JUST PLAY THE WAY I PLAYED THE REST OF THE TOURNAMENT I'LL BE ABLE TO PULL IT OFF.

PETER KESSLER
DID YOU GET TO A POINT WHEN YOU GOT A PRETTY DECENT LEAD DOWN THE BACK NINE WHERE YOU ALLOWED YOURSELF TO GET AHEAD OF YOURSELF AND THOUGHT ABOUT TROPHIES AND THAT YOU'VE WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP? DID YOU HAVE TO FIGHT THAT AT ALL COMING DOWN THE STRETCH?

RETIEF GOOSEN
NO NOT REALLY. I WAS, I WAS TRYING TO KEEP MY MIND ON THE GAME AND TRYING NOT TO THINK AHEAD WHAT, YOU KNOW, IS COMING UP. 16, THAT PUTT I HAD TO MAKE THERE, THAT WAS PROBABLY THE

MOST DIFFICULT PUTT I HAD TO MAKE THE WHOLE, WHOLE ROUND. I RECKON IT WAS A DOUBLE
ING PUTT, STRAIGHT DOWN THE HILL , FIRST GOING RIGHT ON ME AND THEN COMING BACK TO THE LEFT,

SO THAT WAS A KEY PUTT TO MAKE AND STAY, KEEP THAT LEADER AHEAD, YOU KNOW.

PETER KESSLER
WAS THERE A PARTICULAR PUTTING KEY OR ANYTHING GOING ON THAT DAY THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE SUCH PHENOMENAL RESULTS INSIDE 15 FEET ALL THE WAY AROUND THE GOLF COURSE?

RETIEF GOOSEN
WELL FOR SOME REASON I PUTT BETTER ON FAST GREENS SO I LIKE TO JUST STROKE THE BALL, GET A SMOOTH ROLL ON IT. I DON'T LIKE REALLY SLOW GREENS WHERE I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO REALLY HIT THE BALL.

PETER KESSLER
IS THERE ANY OTHER CHOICE BESIDES THE PUTTER HERE, IN YOUR VIEW, YOU PULLED THE PUTTER OUT OF THE BAG PRETTY QUICK ON THIS SHOT.

RETIEF GOOSEN
WELL I KNEW, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD THE COMMENTATORS WERE SAYING, YOU KNOW IF, HE CAN CHUNK IT, HE CAN DO THIS, HE CAN DO THAT, THEN, THAT WAS GOING THROUGH MY MIND AS WELL, AND I, AND I SUPPOSE WHAT I'VE

LEARNED AT THE OUTFIT DOWN HERE, I'VE COPIED (?) ENOUGH PUTTING FROM LONG RANGE OFF THE GREENS, HELPED ME

A LOT WITH THAT SORT OF SHOT. I KNEW, YOU KNOW, ALL I HAVE TO DO IS MAKE FIVE AND I WIN THE TOURNAMENT.

PETER KESSLER
HOW MUCH FUN WAS THIS?

RETIEF GOOSEN
IT WAS, IT WAS A RELIEF MORE THAN FUN I THINK. I COULDN'T REALLY, I DON'T THINK I HAD ANY, ANY ENERGY TO JUMP UP AND DOWN OR ANYTHING BUT, LATER THAT NIGHT, THEN IT REALLY SORT OF STARTED TO SINK IN.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT DID YOUR WIFE TRACY HAVE TO SAY WHEN YOU SPOKE TO HER FIRST AFTER WINNING THE U.S. OPEN CHAMPIONSHIP ?

RETIEF GOOSEN
WELL I COULDN'T REALLY GET MUCH IN. THERE WAS SUCH A NOISE BACK HOME. SHE HAD SO MANY FRIENDS AROUND THE HOUSE AND I COULD JUST HEAR IN THE BACKGROUND, EVERYBODY GOING

WILD SO IT WAS, IT WAS NICE, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST RING YOU IN THE MORNING OR SEE YOU IN THE MORNING. I TRIED TO RING MY DAD BUT HE COULDN'T, HE COULDN'T SPEAK, HE WAS JUST TOTAL TEARS, YOU KNOW.

PETER KESSLER
PERFECT

RETIEF GOOSEN
THERE WAS JUST NO WAY OF GETTING WORDS OUT OF HIM.


PETER KESSLER
PERFECT, JUST WHAT YOU WANTED.

RETIEF GOOSEN
YEAH

PETER KESSLER
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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Teenager Im wins Web.com season opener

By Will GrayJanuary 16, 2018, 10:23 pm

South Korea's Sungjae Im cruised to a four-shot victory at The Bahamas Great Exuma Classic, becoming just the second teenager to win an event on the Web.com Tour.

Im started the final day of the season-opening event in a share of the lead but still with six holes left in his third round. He was one shot behind Carlos Ortiz when the final round began, but moved ahead of the former Web.com Player of the Year thanks to a 7-under 65 in rainy and windy conditions. Im's 13-under total left him four clear of Ortiz and five shots ahead of a quartet of players in third.

Still more than two months shy of his 20th birthday, Im joins Jason Day as the only two teens to win on the developmental circuit. Day was 19 years, 7 months and 26 days old when he captured the 2007 Legend Financial Group Classic.

Recent PGA Tour winners Si Woo Kim and Patrick Cantlay and former NCAA champ Aaron Wise all won their first Web.com Tour event at age 20.

Other notable finishes in the event included Max Homa (T-7), Erik Compton (T-13), Curtis Luck (T-13) and Lee McCoy (T-13). The Web.com Tour will remain in the Bahamas for another week, with opening round of The Bahamas Great Abaco Classic set to begin Sunday.

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Mickelson grouped with Z. Johnson at CareerBuilder

By Will GrayJanuary 16, 2018, 8:28 pm

He's not the highest-ranked player in this week's field, but Phil Mickelson will likely draw the biggest crowd at the CareerBuilder Challenge as he makes his first start of 2018. Here are a few early-round, marquee groupings to watch as players battle the three-course rotation in the Californian desert (all times ET):

12:10 p.m. Thursday, 11:40 a.m. Friday, 1:20 p.m. Saturday: Phil Mickelson, Zach Johnson

Mickelson is making his fourth straight trip to Palm Springs, having cracked the top 25 each of the last three times. In addition to their respective amateur partners, he'll play the first three rounds alongside a fellow Masters champ in Johnson, who tied for 14th last week in Hawaii and finished third in this event in 2014.


11:40 a.m. Thursday, 1:20 p.m. Friday, 12:50 p.m. Saturday: Jon Rahm, Bubba Watson

At No. 3 in the world, Rahm is the highest-ranked player teeing it up this week and the Spaniard returns to an event where he finished T-34 last year in his tournament debut. He'll play the first two rounds alongside Watson, who is looking to bounce back from a difficult 2016-17 season and failed to crack the top 50 in two starts in the fall.


11:40 a.m. Thursday, 1:20 p.m. Friday, 12:50 p.m. Saturday: Patrick Reed, Brandt Snedeker

Reed made the first big splash of his career at this event in 2014, shooting three straight rounds of 63 en route to his maiden victory. He'll be joined by Snedeker, whose bid for a Masters bid via the top 50 of the world rankings came up short last month and who hasn't played this event since a missed cut in 2015.


1:10 p.m. Thursday, 12:40 p.m. Friday, 12:10 p.m. Saturday: Patton Kizzire, Bill Haas

Kizzire heads east after a whirlwind Sunday ended with his second win of the season in a six-hole playoff over James Hahn in Honolulu. He'll play alongside Haas, who won this event in both 2010 and 2015 to go with a runner-up finish in 2011 and remains the tournament's all-time leading money winner.

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Mackay still a caddie at heart, even with a microphone

By Doug FergusonJanuary 16, 2018, 7:34 pm

HONOLULU – All it took was one week back on the bag to remind Jim ''Bones'' Mackay what he always loved about being a caddie.

It just wasn't enough for this to be the ultimate mic drop.

Mackay traded in his TV microphone at the Sony Open for the 40-pound bag belonging to Justin Thomas.

It was his first time caddying since he split with Phil Mickelson six months ago. Mackay was only a temporary replacement at Waialae for Jimmy Johnson, a good friend and Thomas' regular caddie who has a nasty case of plantar fasciitis that will keep him in a walking boot for the next month.

''The toughest thing about not caddying is missing the competition, not having a dog in the fight,'' Mackay said before the final round. ''There's nothing more rewarding as a caddie, in general terms, when you say, 'I don't like 6-iron, I like 7,' and being right. I miss that part of it.''

The reward now?

''Not stumbling over my words,'' he said. ''And being better than I was the previous week.''

He has done remarkably well since he started his new job at the British Open last summer, except for that time he momentarily forgot his role. Parts of that famous caddie adage – ''Show up, keep up, shut up'' – apparently can apply to golf analysts on the ground.

During the early hours of the telecast, before Johnny Miller came on, Justin Leonard was in the booth.

''It's my job to report on what I see. It's not my job to ask questions,'' Mackay said. ''I forgot that for a minute.''

Leonard was part of a booth discussion on how a comfortable pairing can help players trying to win a major. That prompted Mackay to ask Leonard if he found it helpful at the 1997 British Open when he was trying to win his first major and was paired with Fred Couples in the final round at Royal Troon.

''What I didn't know is we were going to commercial in six seconds,'' Mackay said. ''I would have no way of knowing that, but I completely hung Justin out to dry. He's now got four seconds to answer my long-winded question.''

During the commercial break, the next voice Mackay heard belonged to Tommy Roy, the executive golf producer at NBC.

''Bones, don't ever do that again.''

It was Roy who recognized the value experienced caddies could bring to a telecast. That's why he invited Mackay and John Wood, the caddie for Matt Kuchar, into the control room at the 2015 Houston Open so they could see how it all worked and how uncomfortable it can be to hear directions coming through an earpiece.

Both worked as on-course reporters at Sea Island that fall.

And when Mickelson and Mackay parted ways after 25 years, Roy scooped up the longtime caddie for TV.

It's common for players to move into broadcasting. Far more unusual is for a caddie to be part of the mix. Mackay loves his new job. Mostly, he loves how it has helped elevate his profession after so many years of caddies being looked upon more unfavorably than they are now.

''I want to be a caddie that's doing TV,'' he said. ''That's what I hope to come across as. The guys think this is good for caddies. And if it's good for caddies, that makes me happy. Because I'm a caddie. I'll always be a caddie.''

Not next week at Torrey Pines, where Mickelson won three times. Not a week later in Phoenix, where Mackay lives. Both events belong to CBS.

And not the Masters.

He hasn't missed Augusta since 1994, when Mickelson broke his leg skiing that winter.

''That killed me,'' he said, ''but not nearly as much as it's going to kill me this year. I'll wake up on Thursday of the Masters and I'll be really grumpy. I'll probably avoid television at all costs until the 10th tee Sunday. And I'll watch. But it will be, within reason, the hardest day of my life.''

There are too many memories, dating to when he was in the gallery right of the 11th green in 1987 when Larry Mize chipped in to beat Greg Norman. He caddied for Mize for two years, and then Scott Simpson in 1992, and Mickelson the rest of the way. He was on the bag for Lefty's three green jackets.

Mackay still doesn't talk much about what led them to part ways, except to say that a player-caddie relationship runs its course.

''If you lose that positive dynamic, there's no point in continuing,'' he said. ''It can be gone in six months or a year or five years. In our case, it took 25 years.''

He says a dozen or so players called when they split up, and the phone call most intriguing was from Roy at NBC.

''I thought I'd caddie until I dropped,'' Mackay said.

He never imagined getting yardages and lining up putts for anyone except the golfer whose bag he was carrying. Now it's for an audience that measures in the millions. Mackay doesn't look at it as a second career. And he won't rule out caddying again.

''It will always be tempting,'' he said. ''I'll always consider myself a caddie. Right now, I'm very lucky and grateful to have the job I do.''

Except for that first week in April.

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The Social: The end was nigh, then it wasn't

By Jason CrookJanuary 16, 2018, 7:00 pm

The star power at the Sony Open may have been overshadowed by a missile scare, but there were plenty of other social media stories that kept the golf world on its toes this week, including some insight on Tiger Woods from a round with President Obama and some failed trick shots.

All that and more in this week's edition of The Social.

By now you've undoubtedly heard about the false alarm in Hawaii on Saturday, where just about everyone, including most Sony Open participants, woke up to an emergency cell phone alert that there was a ballistic missile heading toward the islands.

Hawaiian emergency management officials eventually admitted the original message was mistakenly sent out, but before they did, people (understandably) freaked out.

As the situation unfolded, some Tour pros took to social media to express their confusion and to let the Twittersphere know how they planned on riding out this threat:

While I would've been in that bathtub under the mattress with John Peterson, his wife, baby and in-laws (wait, how big is this tub?), here's how Justin Thomas reacted to the threat of impending doom:

Yeah, you heard that right.

“I was like ‘there’s nothing I can do,'” Thomas said. ”I sat on my couch and opened up the sliding door and watched TV and listened to music. I was like, if it’s my time, it’s my time.”

Hmmm ... can we just go ahead and award him all the 2018 majors right now? Because if Thomas is staring down death in mid-January, you gotta like the kid's chances on the back nine Sunday at Augusta and beyond.

Before the Hawaiian Missile Crisis of 2018, things were going about as well as they could at Waialae Country Club, starting with the Wednesday pro-am.

Jordan Spieth might have been the third-biggest star in his own group, after getting paired with superstar singer/songwriter/actor Nick Jonas and model/actress Kelly Rohrbach.

You'd be hard-pressed to find a more photogenic group out on the course, and the "Baywatch" star has a gorgeous swing as well, which makes sense, considering she was a former collegiate golfer at Georgetown.

As impressive as that group was, they were somehow outshined by an amateur in another group, former NFL coach June Jones.

Jones, who now coaches the CFL's Hamilton Tiger-Cats, played his round in bare feet and putted with his 5-iron, a remedy he came up with to battle the yips.

Former NFL and current CFL coach June Jones: A master of 5-iron putting?

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Considering he made back-to-back birdies at one point during the day, it's safe to say he's won that battle.

With Tiger Woods' return to the PGA Tour about a week away, that sound you hear is the hype train motoring full speed down the tracks.

First, his ex-girlfriend Lindsey Vonn told Sports Illustrated that she hopes this comeback works out for him.

“I loved him and we’re still friends. Sometimes, I wish he would have listened to me a little more, but he’s very stubborn and he likes to go his own way," the Olympic skiier said. "I hope this latest comeback sticks. I hope he goes back to winning tournaments.”

Vonn also mentioned she thinks Woods is very stubborn and that he didn't listen to her enough. That really shouldn't shock anyone who watched him win the 2008 U.S. Open on one leg. Don't think there were a lot of people in his ear telling him that was a great idea at the time.

We also have this report from Golf Channel Insider Tim Rosaforte, stating that the 14-time major champ recently played a round with former president Barack Obama at The Floridian in Palm City, Fla., where he received rave reviews from instructor Claude Harmon.

The Farmers Insurance Open is sure to be must-see TV, but until then, I'm here for all of the rampant speculation and guesses as to how things will go. The more takes the better. Make them extra spicy, please and thanks.

These poor New Orleans Saints fans. Guess the only thing you can do is throw your 65-inch TV off the balcony and get 'em next year.

Here's two more just for good measure.

Farts ... will they ever not be funny?

Perhaps someday, but that day was not early last week, when Tommy Fleetwood let one rip on his European teammates during EurAsia Cup team photos.

Fleetwood went 3-0-0 in the event, helping Europe to a victory over Asia, perhaps by distracting his opponents with the aid of his secret weapon.

Also, how about the diabolical question, "Did you get that?"

Yeah Tommy, we all got that.

Ahhh ... golf trick shot videos. You were fun while you lasted.

But now we’ve officially come to the point in their existence where an unsuccessful attempt is much more entertaining than a properly executed shot, and right on cue, a couple of pros delivered some epic fails.

We start with Sony Open runner-up James Hahn’s preparation for the event, where for some reason he thought he needed to practice a running, jumping, Happy Gilmore-esque shot from the lip of a bunker. It didn’t exactly work out.

Not to be outdone, Ladies European Tour pro Carly Booth attempted the juggling-drive-it-out-of-midair shot made famous by the Bryan Bros, and from the looks of things she might have caught it a little close to the hosel.

PSA to trick-shot artists everywhere: For the sake of the viewing public, if you feel a miss coming on, please make sure the camera is rolling.

Seriously, though, who cares? Definitely not these guys and gals, who took the time to comment, "who cares?" They definitely do not care.