Golf Talk Live - Johnny Bulla Transcript Segment 4
SIXTY YEARS AGO, THIS MONTH, YOU WON THE LOS ANGELES OPEN AT RIVIERA. WHAT ARE YOUR HAPPIEST MEMORIES OF WINNING THAT GOLF TOURNAMENT?
MY WIFE WAS PREGNANT AND I WAS GLAD WE COULD HAVE MADE ENOUGH MONEY SO IT MADE IT EASIER.
THE BOYS GAVE YOU A TOUGH TIME THAT WEEK, DIDN'T THEY?
VERY MUCH SO.
WELL, I WAS LEADING IT AFTER THE SECOND ROUND, OF COURSE YOU DON'T REHASH, IT'S ALL OVER WITH, BUT I WAS PAIRED WITH BYRON AND JUG McSPADEN AND ON THE FIRST HOLE, AT RIVIERA, YOU TEE OFF AND YOU GO DOWN THEN YOU GO
OVER THE BRIDGE AND JUG WENT AHEAD OF ME, AND BYRON, THEY BOTH WENT AHEAD OF ME AND JUG WALKED OUT AND BYRON WAS TO THE LEFT AND J... MY BALL AND JUG'S BALL WAS ON THE SAME
LINE. JUG WALKED OVER TO THE SHORTER BALL, TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND WALKED BACK AND STOOD AT THE SIDE, AND I ASSUMED THAT, THAT WAS MY BALL. DIDN'T PAY ANY ATTENTION TO IT, IT WASN'T, THE NAME WASN'T UP ON IT VERY GOOD, I DIDN'T LOOK TOO MUCH AND AS
I HIT THE BALL, JUG SAYS YOU PLAYED THE WRONG BALL. SOON AS I HIT IT IN THE AIR... AND UH JIM MURRAY, WHO'S A SPORTSWRITER WHO HAPPENED TO BE GOING ALONG WATCHING, HE HAD NEVER SEEN ME PLAY, AND HE TOLD ME LATER,
HE SAID THAT, THAT JUG, AFTER BYRON HIT HIS, JUG WENT OVER TO BYRON AND SAYS WE GOT HIM NOW. HE'LL BE ALL UPSET AND I TOOK SEVEN ON THE HOLE. I SHOT SEVENTY-FIVE. I NEVER HAD TOO MANY PEOPLE PULLING FOR ME BACK THEN.
BUT WAS THAT TRUE GENERALLY OF THE TOUR, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED EARLIER THAT NOBODY REALLY HELPED ANYBODY ELSE WITH THEIR GOLF SWING AND THERE WAS VERY LITTLE PRIZE MONEY. THEY ONLY PAID 15 OR 20 PLACES. IT WAS SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST IN MANY WAYS WASN'T IT?
OH ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S RIGHT, BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY.
I WASN'T THAT WAY. I NEVER TRIED TO HURT ANYBODY.
I'M SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT JUG INTENTIONALLY MISLEAD YOU INTO PLAYING THE WRONG BALL.
OH, HE DID THAT SEVERAL TIMES.
WELL TO OTHERS.
YOU DIDN'T FALL FOR IT AFTER THE FIRST TIME.
OH NO, NO, NO. NO ONE TIME WAS ENOUGH.
LET'S CHECK IN WITH ONE OF YOUR FANS. WE'VE GOT GEORGE CALLING FROM ALABAMA. HOW ARE YOU GEORGE?
GEORGE, CALLER FROM ALABAMA (MALE):
FINE PETER. HOW ARE YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU FOR CHECKING IN. VERY WELL, THANKS.
GEORGE, CALLER FROM ALABAMA (MALE):
HEY MR. BULLA, HOW ARE YOU DOING, SIR?
I'M DOING GREAT.
GEORGE, CALLER FROM ALABAMA (MALE): I FEEL LIKE I'VE KNOWN YOU FOR MANY YEARS AND 1956, WHEN I WAS TEN YEARS OLD, MY MOTHER BOUGHT ME A SET OF SEARS AND ROBUCK, JC HIGGINS, JOHNNY BULLA SIGNATURE CLUBS AND I'M JUST SO UH SO EXCITED ABOUT MEETING YOU AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU, WHAT WAS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH SEARS AND
IF YOU'LL JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT I'LL HANG UP AND LISTEN, CONSIDERING THAT THE SPONSORSHIPS OF NIKE AND ALL THE BIG COMPANIES NOW, I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THAT, AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL.
GIVE ME THAT OVER AGAIN, I DIDN'T QUITE
HE WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT SEARS. YOUR DEAL WITH SEARS ROBUCK.
OH MY DEAL WITH SEARS?
GEORGE, CALLER FROM ALABAMA (MALE):
WELL, I HAD PROMOTED WALGREEN GOLF BALLS BEFORE AND I WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT PROMOTED GOLF EQUIPMENT IN THE RETAIL OUTLET, AND SEARS FELT LIKE THAT, THEY HAD A GOOD MARKET IF WE COULD DEVELOP GOOD CLUBS, SO, I
HELPED THEM DEVELOP CLUBS AND BALLS AND THEY BECAME REALLY BIG BECAUSE THEY WERE SO MUCH CHEAPER, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TOLD ME OVER THE YEARS THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE PROBABLY TAKEN UP GOLF IF THEY HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO BUY CHEAPER CLUBS TO START WITH, SO I FEEL REAL GOOD ABOUT THAT.
TELL ME ABOUT THE RISE AND FALL OF RALPH GUDAL.
WELL, THEY ALWAYS SAID THAT RALPH LOST HIS GAME BECAUSE HE LOOKED AT PICTURES, THAT'S NOT TRUE. RALPH HAD A HISTORY OF BEING GREAT, AND THEN FALLING BACK. YOU KNOW HE, HE WAS SECOND IN THE NATIONAL OPEN IN '33
AND THEN YOU DIDN'T HEAR FROM HIM UNTIL ABOUT '37. HE HAD A VERY UNUSUAL SWING. HE STAND REAL, STOOD RIGHT CLOSE TO THE BALL AND HE, HE COULDN'T MOVE ON IT LATER ON IN LIFE AND HE COULDN'T HIT IT. HE JUST WENT DOWN HILL. PROBABLY AFTER, OH I GUESS, JUST BEFORE THE WAR HE STARTED LOOSING HIS GAME.
YEAH THE STORY WAS, THE POPULAR STORY THAT, IN THE LATE 30'S HE WAS ASKED TO WRITE AN INSTRUCTIONAL BOOK AND HE HAD BEEN A FEEL PLAYER AND THAT WHEN HE STARTED TRYING TO ANALYZE WHAT HE WAS DOING, THAT THAT'S WHEN HE BEGAN NOT TO PLAY WELL, BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S AN EXCUSE.
THAT'S AN EXCUSE. THAT'S AN EXCUSE. NO. HE JUST, HE JUST, HE HAD A HARD TIME. HE WENT IN PEAKS AND FINALLY FELL DOWN AND NEVER BROUGHT IT BACK UP.
TELL US ABOUT LEFTY STACKHOUSE, AS WE'RE WATCHING ACTUALLY GOUDAL THERE IN HIS PRIME, AND OF COURSE HE WON SEVERAL MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIPS IN THE LATE 30'S.
TELL US ABOUT LEFTY STACKHOUSE AND IVAN GANTZ.
WELL, THEY WERE BOTH LEFT HANDED, AND THE FRUSTRATION OF TRYING TO PLAY RIGHT HANDED, ALONG WITH A GREAT BIG TEMPER MADE THINGS KIND OF HECTIC AT TIMES. I REMEMBER LEFTY,
ONE TIME I WAS DOWN IN NEW ORLEANS AND HE GAVE IT A QUICK HOOK AND, AND THERE'S A ROSE BUSH THERE, AND HE RUN HIS HANDS RIGHT THROUGH IT, AND HE SAYS, WITH HIS RIGHT HAND, HE SAYS YOU'LL NEVER GET IN THERE AGAIN.
JUST SCRATCHED HIS HANDS ALL TO PIECES AND YOU GOT TO FEEL SORRY FOR HIM, BUT THAT'S, THAT WAS HIS PERSONALITY.
BUT HE COULD ALSO PLAY COULDN'T HE?
OH YEAH. HE WAS A GOOD PLAYER. BUT HE WAS LIKE TOMMY BOLT. HE COULDN'T CONTROL HIS TEMPER.
WHAT ABOUT IVAN, THE TERRIBLE GANTZ?
WELL (LAUGHS) THE SAME STORY.
DID BRENASEED DO THE SAME THING WITH THE ROSEBUSH?
OH HE WAS, HE WAS, HE, HE BROKE CLUBS AND THREW TANTRUMS WHEN HE PLAYED BAD.
WHAT ABOUT KYLE LEFOUN?
WELL KYLE, KYLE WAS, I THINK HE WAS MORE OF A CLOWN THAN HE WAS BEING MAD BECAUSE ONE TIME, THE OLD, THE OLD STORY ABOUT HIM PUTTING SO BAD HE TIED THE PUTTER ON THE BACK OF HIS CAR WITH A STRING AND DRUG IN TILL IT
TO PUNISH IT.
TO PUNISH IT, YEAH.
IS THAT A TRUE STORY THAT YOU TWO GOT IN A FIGHT, AND YOU DIDN'T BACK DOWN FROM A LOT OF STUFF EITHER AND THAT HE SOMEHOW MANAGED TO PICK YOU UP AND THROW YOU ON TOP OF LOCKERS?
THAT IS THE BIGGEST, THAT'S THE BIGGEST FARCE THAT EVER WAS. WHAT HAPPENED, THAT INCIDENT HAPPENED BEFORE I EVEN KNEW KYLE. IT WAS BACK IN THE EARLY 30'S AND, NO KYLE COULDN'T HAVE THROWN ME ON A, ON A
LOCKER. HE WAS, I WAS 215, SIX-THREE. HE COULDN'T COME CLOSE. I HEARD THAT STORY. THE GUY WRITING THE STORY WITH HOGAN'S LIFE. HE, IT, IT WAS, YOU HEAR A LOT OF THOSE STORIES.
THAT'S WHY WE WANTED YOU TO COME IN SO YOU COULD CLEAR UP ALL THE CONFUSION.
THAT GETS, THAT GETS OUT OF HAND.
WE'LL, WE'LL CLEAR SOME MORE UP BEFORE THE END OF THE NIGHT. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
The Tiger comeback just got real on Friday
PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. – Slow play was a big storyline on the PGA Tour’s West Coast swing, but not so much anymore.
Not with Tiger Woods speeding things up Friday at the Honda Classic.
Not with Woods thumping the gas pedal around PGA National’s Champion Course, suddenly looking as if he is racing way ahead of schedule in his return to the game.
The narrative wondrously started to turn here.
It turned from wondering at week’s start if Woods could make the cut here, after missing it last week at the Genesis Open. His game was too wild for Riviera, where a second-round 76 left him looking lost with the Masters just six weeks away.
It turned in head-spinning fashion Friday with Woods climbing the leaderboard in tough conditions to get himself into weekend contention with a 1-over-par 71.
He is just four shots off the lead.
“I’d be shocked if he’s not there Sunday with a chance to win,” said Brandt Snedeker, who played alongside Woods in the first two rounds. “He’s close to playing some really, really good golf.”
Just a few short months ago, so many of us were wondering if Woods was close to washed up.
“He’s only going to improve,” Snedeker said. “The more time he has, as the weather gets warmer, he’ll feel better and be able to practice more.”
Snedeker has had a front-row seat for this speedy Tiger turnaround. He played the third round with Woods at the Farmers Insurance Open last month. That was Woods’ first PGA Tour start in a year.
How much improvement did Snedeker see from that Torrey Pines experience?
“It was kind of what I expected – significantly improved,” Snedeker said. “His iron game is way better. His driver is way better. I don’t’ see it going backward from here.”
This was the hope packed into Friday’s new narrative.
“I’m right there in the ballgame,” Woods said. “I really played well today. I played well all day today.”
Tiger sent a jolt through PGA National when his name hit the top 10 of the leaderboard. He didn’t do it with a charge. He did it battling a brutish course in wintry, blustery winds, on “scratchy” and “dicey” greens that made par a good score.
When Woods holed a 25-foot putt at the ninth to move into red numbers at 1 under overall and within three shots of the lead, a roar shook across the Champion Course.
“It got a little loud, which was cool to see,” Snedeker said. “It’s great to have that energy and vibe back.”
Woods sent fans scampering to get into position, blasting a 361-yard drive at the 10th, cutting the corner. He had them buzzing when he stuck his approach to 9 feet for another birdie chance to get within two of the lead.
“I thought if he makes it, this place will go nuts, and he could get it going like he used to,” Snedeker said.
Woods missed, but with the leaders falling back to him on this grueling day, he stuck his approach at the 12th to 10 feet to give himself a chance to move within a shot of the lead.
It’s another putt that could have turned PGA National upside down, but Woods missed that.
“It really is hard to make birdies,” he said. “At least I found it hard. It was hard to get the ball close, even if the ball is in the fairway, it's still very difficult to get the ball close, with the wind blowing as hard as it is. It’s hard to make putts out here.”
Patton Kizzire, a two-time PGA Tour winner who won just last month at the Sony Open, could attest to how tough the test at Honda has become. He played alongside Woods this week for the first time in his career. He shot 78 Friday and missed the cut.
Kizzire had a close-up look at what suddenly seems possible for Woods again.
“He’s figuring it out,” Kizzire said. “He hit some nice shots and rolled in some nice putts. It was pretty impressive.”
Woods could not hide his excitement in getting himself in the weekend hunt, but his expectations remain tempered in this comeback. He knows the daily referendums his game is subject to, how we can all make the highs too high and the lows too low.
“We’ve got a long way to go,” Woods said.
Woods lost a tee shot in a bush at the second hole and made bogey. He hit his tee shot in the water at the 15th and made double bogey. He three-putted the 16th to make bogey. He knows this course can derail a player’s plans in a hurry, but he knows his game is quickly coming around.
“I’m right there where I can win a golf tournament,” Woods said. “Four back on this golf course with 36 holes to go, I mean, anybody can win this golf tournament right now. It’s wide open.’”
Woods hit his shot of the day at the 17th to right his game after the struggles at the 15th and 16th. He did so in front of the Goslings Bear Trap Party Pavilion, cutting a 5-iron to 12 feet. It was the hardest hole on the course Friday, with nearly one of every three players rinsing a shot in the water there. Woods made birdie there to ignite an explosion of cheers. He got a standing ovation.
“I was telling you guys, I love Riviera, I just don't play well there,” Woods said. “So here we are, we're back at a golf course I know and I play well here.”
So here we are, on the precipice of something special again?
Woods seems in a hurry to find out.
List, Lovemark lead; Tiger four back at Honda
PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. – Even with a tee shot into the water for another double bogey, Tiger Woods could see the big picture in the Honda Classic.
He was four shots out of the lead going into the weekend.
Luke List delivered a round not many others found possible in such difficult conditions Friday, a 4-under 66 that gave him a share of the lead with Jamie Lovemark (69). They were at 3-under 137, the highest score to lead at the halfway point of the Honda Classic since it moved to PGA National in 2007.
So bunched were the scores that Woods was four shots out of the lead and four shots from last place among the 76 players who made the cut at 5-over 145. More importantly, he only had 13 players in front of him.
''This is a difficult golf course right now,'' Woods said. ''Making pars is a good thing. I've done that, and I'm right there with a chance.''
And he has plenty of company.
Tommy Fleetwood, who won the Race to Dubai on the European Tour last year, scratched out a 68 and was one shot out of the lead along with Webb Simpson (72), Russell Henley (70) and Rory Sabbatini (69).
Justin Thomas and Daniel Berger each shot 72 and were in a large group at 139. They were among only 10 players remaining under par.
Fleetwood laughed when asked the last time he was at 2 under after 36 holes and only one shot out of the lead.
''Maybe some junior event,'' he said. ''It's good, though. These are the toughest test in golf. Generally, one of the best players prevail at the end of weeks like this. Weeks like this challenge you to the ultimate level. Whether you shoot two 80s or you lead after two rounds, you can see what you need to do and see where your game is. Because this is as hard as it's ever going to get for you.''
The difficulty was primarily from the wind, which blew just as hard in the morning when List shot his 66 as it did in the afternoon. More aggravating to the players are the greens, which are old and bare, firm and crusty. It's a recipe for not making many putts.
Defending champion Rickie Fowler had six bogeys on his front nine and shot 77 to miss the cut.
''It's unfortunate that the greens have changed this much in a year,'' Fowler said. ''They typically get slick and quick on the weekend because they dry out, but at least there's some sort of surface. But like I said, everyone's playing the same greens.''
It looked as though List was playing a different course when he went out with a bogey-free 32 on the back nine, added a pair of birdies on the front nine and then dropped his only shot when he caught an awkward lie in the bunker on the par-3 seventh.
''It's very relentless,'' List said. ''There's not really too many easy holes, but if you hit fairways and go from there, you can make a few birdies out there.''
List and Lovemark, both Californians, have never won on the PGA Tour. This is the third time List has had at least a share of the 36-hole lead, most recently in South Korea at the CJ Cup, where he shot 76-72 on the weekend.
''It's kind of irrelevant because there's going to be 30 guys within a couple shots of the lead,'' List said. ''It's going to be that type of week.''
He was exaggerating – there were 11 players within three shots of the lead.
And there was another guy four shots behind.
Woods brought big energy to a Friday afternoon that already was hopping before he overcame a sluggish start and holed a 25-foot birdie putt on No. 9 to make the turn at 1 under for his round, and leaving him two shots out of the lead. Everyone knew it just from listening to the roars.
Woods had his chances, twice missing birdie putts from inside 10 feet at Nos. 10 and 12, sandwiched around a 12-foot par save. His round appeared to come undone when he found the water on the 15th and made double bogey for the second straight day.
Then, he hit out of a fairway bunker, over the water and onto the green at the dangerous 16th hole and faced a 65-foot putt. He misread the speed and the line, so badly that it was similar to a car driving from Chicago to Denver and winding up in Phoenix. A bogey dropped him to 2 over.
The big moment was the 17th hole, 184 waters into the wind and over water. That's where Rory McIlroy made triple bogey earlier in the day that ruined his otherwise solid round of 72, leaving him seven behind. Making it even tougher for Woods is the Brandt Snedeker hit 5-iron before him to about 6 feet. Woods got to the tee and the wind died, meaning 5-iron was too much and 6-iron wouldn't clear the water.
He went with the 5-iron.
''I started that thing pretty far left and hit a pretty big cut in there because I had just too much stick,'' Wood said.
It landed 12 feet below the hole for a birdie putt.
Thomas made 17 pars and a double bogey when he three-putted from 6 feet on No. 16. He felt the same way as Woods.
''I'm in a good spot – really good spot – going into this week,'' Thomas said.
Woods to play with Dufner (12:10 p.m.) in third round
PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. – Tiger Woods will play alongside Jason Dufner in the third round of the Honda Classic.
Woods and Dufner, both at 1-over 141, four shots back, will tee off at 12:10 p.m. ET Saturday at PGA National. They’re in the 10th-to-last group.
Co-leaders Luke List and Jamie Lovemark will go at 1:40 p.m.
Some of the other late pairings include Justin Thomas and Daniel Berger, who will be playing together for the third consecutive day, at 1 p.m.; Louis Oosthuizen and Thomas Pieters (1:10 p.m.); and Webb Simpson and Russell Henley, in the penultimate group at 1:30 p.m.
Woods doesn't mind 'fun' but brutal 17th hole
PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. – Tiger Woods doesn’t mind the boisterous crowd that surrounds the par-3 17th hole at PGA National.
And why should he?
When the wind died down Friday afternoon, Woods played a “big ol’ cut” with a 5-iron that dropped 12 feet from the cup. He made the putt – one of just nine birdies on the day – and when he walked off the green, the fans gave him a standing ovation.
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The scene is expected to be even more raucous Saturday at the Honda Classic, especially with Woods in contention.
There is a Goslings Bear Trap tent just to the right of the tee. The hole has become a hot topic in recent years, after a few players complained that the noise from the nearby crowd was distracting as they tried to play a wind-blown, 190-yard shot over water.
Woods was asked his thoughts on the party setup after finishing his second-round 71.
“As long as they don’t yell in our golf swings, we’re fine,” he said. “They can be raucous. They are having a great time. It’s fun. They are having a blast, and hopefully we can execute golf shots, but as long as they don’t yell in our golf swings, everything’s cool.”
After the recent Waste Management Phoenix Open, a few players told Woods that fans were trying to time their screams with the players’ downswings.
“There’s really no reason to do that,” Woods said. “I think that most of the people there at 17 are golfers, and they understand how hard a golf shot that is. So they are being respectful, but obviously libations are flowing.”
The 17th played as the most difficult hole on the course Friday, with a 3.74 scoring average and a combined score to par of 104 over. More than a quarter of the tee shots found the water.