Golf Talk Live - Matt Kuchar Transcript Segment 5
WELCOME BACK. EVERY WEEK WE TAKE A QUESTION FROM THE INTERNET. THIS QUESTION COMES TO US FROM ANN THOMPSON IN SCOTTSDALE, ARIZONA. MATT, THIS IS WHAT SHE WANTS TO KNOW.
I READ THAT YOUR AGENTS DEAL MOSTLY WITH ENTERTAINMENT PEOPLE LIKE MUSIC GROUP DESTINY'S CHILD. I ALSO READ THAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO GET YOU INVOLVED IN TELEVISION AND FILM APPEARANCES AND POSSIBLY SOME MODELING. JEREMY WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT. ANY TRUTH TO THESE REPORTS?
ABSOLUTELY, WILEMINA, WHAT A NEAT AGENCY THAT IS. I'VE BEEN TO THEIR OFFICE IN MIAMI AND IN NEW YORK AND THERE'S SO MUCH ACTIVITY GOING ON. I MEAN SO MANY PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND. I WAS IN NEW YORK AND BEN STILLER WAS IN THE OFFICE AT THE SAME
TIME DOING SOME, SOME KIND OF DEAL WITH HIM, AND, OF COURSE THEY DO HANDLE DESTINY'S CHILD AMONG MANY OTHER RECORDING ARTISTS AND ENTERTAINMENT PEOPLE. JUST A GREAT GROUP TO BE INVOLVED WITH. I MEAN
THE WAY THEY, THEY CROSSOVER AND, AND PUT YOU WITH, YOU KNOW, ASSOCIATE YOU WITH THE DESTINY'S CHILD AND THEY HAVE STEFAN MARBRI (?) AS WELL, AND THEY HAVE JUST, JUST PEOPLE FROM ALL DIFFERENT ASPECTS.
ALL DIFFERENT WALKS, AND IT'S JUST, IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH. THEY HAVE SUCH GREAT IDEAS. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT GOT ME GOING WITH THEM.
THEY HAD KIND OF THE SAME VISIONS I DID. THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BE JUST A GOLFER AND, AND THEY KNEW I HAD POTENTIAL TO BE MORE THAN JUST A GOLFER. THEY WANTED TO, TO KIND OF CROSSOVER IN DIFFERENT AVENUES AND
THEY'VE ASSOCIATED ME WITH JUST, YOU KNOW, GREAT COMPANIES SO FAR. I'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH MY DEAL WITH PRECEPT AND THEY PUT ME WITH HUGO BOSS (?) AND IT'S JUST THAT, THAT IMAGE BRANDING . GETTING THAT RIGHT IMAGE. BEING WITH THE RIGHT COMPANIES AND THEY DO A WONDERFUL JOB AT THIS.
WELL KNOWN MODELING AGENCY WHICH NOW HAS IT'S OWN SPORTS MARKETING GROUP WHICH YOU ARE
PART OF. WE HAVE A PHONE, CALLER ON THE PHONE AND LARRY I THINK YOU GET AN AWARD FOR HANGING OUT LONG ENOUGH. (LAUGHS). YOU'VE BEEN ON THERE A WHILE I KNOW. WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
LARRY, CALLER FROM MICHIGAN (MALE):
WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MATT I JUST WANT TO SAY WHAT A CREDIT YOU ARE TO A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE THINKING ABOUT COMING OUT OF SCHOOL TO GET INTO THE PROFESSIONAL RANKS OF PROFESSIONAL
THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE EXAMPLE THAT YOU'RE SETTING. I'M A HUGE FAN AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WAS THAT SINGLE MOST EXCITING MOMENT AT THAT FIRST MASTERS YOU PLAYED AND I'M GOING TO HANG UP AND LISTEN NOW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MATT.
LARRY, THANK YOU. IT, IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO HEAR. I HAVE A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS OF THAT NATURE AND IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO HEAR THEM. I KNOW IT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD AND I KNOW MY MOM'S OUT THERE AND I KNOW IT MAKES HER FEEL GOOD. SO, PROBABLY THE, THE SINGLE, OOH, I, I TRIED TO MENTION TWO EARLIER IN THE SHOW. I DON'T KNOW IF I
COULD REALLY MENTION ONE. IT WAS PROBABLY THE FIRST TEE SHOT. I'VE NEVER BEEN MAYBE AS NERVOUS IN MY LIFE OTHER THAN MAYBE THE AMATEUR, BUT THE FIRST TEE SHOT AFTER TIGER WOODS HITS DRIVER MILES OVER THE
BUNKER.... AND HERE THAT, THAT HUGE BUNKER ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE FAIRWAY IS PERFECTLY IN PLAY FOR MY DISTANCE AND, AND I HIT, I WAS LUCKY I PULLED THE TRIGGER BUT I HIT MY SUNDAY'S BEST AND IT'S HUGGING THE LEFT EDGE OF THAT RIGHT BUNKER
AND IT SEEMED TO HANG THERE FOREVER AND I WAS LIKE, I KNOW, JUST AS, AS GOLF GOES, I KNOW THAT'S GOING IN THE BUNKER, SON OF A GUN, BUT SURE ENOUGH, I SEE IT BOUNCE. IT CLEARED
THE BUNKER AND YOU KNOW, HITTING THAT TEE SHOT, BEING ABLE TO PULL THE TRIGGER AND PUTTING IT IN THE FAIRWAY WAS, WAS A PRETTY GOOD MOMENT.
GOOD QUESTION, LARRY. LET'S GO BACK TO THE PHONES. MIKE FROM ARIZONA IS ON. WELCOME MIKE.
MIKE, CALLER FROM ARIZONA (MALE):
HI. THANKS A LOT. MATT, I WAS WONDERING WHO SAW YOUR GREAT COLLEGE PLAY WHEN YOU GOT TO THE MASTERS, DID YOU PUT ANY, DO YOU PUT A LOT OF PRESSURE ON YOURSELF TO GO OUT AND DO WELL OR YOU JUST GO AND LET THE, LET WHAT EVER HAPPENS HAPPEN AND JUST ENJOY THE MOMENT?
I HAD WORKED HARD UP TO THAT MOMENT BUT ONCE I GOT OUT THERE, I, I WAS IN AWE. I MEAN HERE I WAS AT THE MASTERS AND THE CROWDS ARE HUGE. I REMEMBER MY FIRST TIME WALKING
AROUND THE COURSE, I WAS HITTING ON THE PRACTICE RANGE AND I WAS SCARED TO TAKE A DIVOT, SO NOW HERE I AM THROWN IN THE TOURNAMENT ITSELF AND IT, IT, I, I COULDN'T PUT PRESSURE ON MYSELF. I WAS JUST SO HAPPY TO BE THERE THAT I, I KIND OF LET THINGS
HAPPEN AND I KNEW I HAD WORKED HARD UP TO THAT MOMENT BUT FROM THERE, ONCE YOU TEE OFF YOU JUST KIND OF GOT TO LET IT HAPPEN.
MATT, YOU MENTIONED WORKING HARD. FOR A LONG TIME YOU DIDN'T HAVE A SWING COACH. AM I CORRECT? AND YOU'VE HOOKED UP RECENTLY WITH RICK SMITH.
WHO'S ONE OF THE GURUS OF THE FEEL PLAYERS I GUESS.
TALK ABOUT THAT RELATIONSHIP. WHAT, WHAT HE'S SEEN IN YOU AND WHAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.
THAT'S BEEN GREAT. I GREW UP WATCHING PEOPLE PLAY. I NEVER TOOK A LESSON, SO TO SPEAK, I KIND OF WATCHED PEOPLE PLAY, TOOK SWINGS I LIKED. TRIED TO EMULATE THEM AND SO REALLY GREW UP BY FEEL. I FINALLY GOT TO A
LEVEL WHERE I DECIDED I NEEDED, I NEEDED SOME COACHING. I NEEDED SOMEBODY TO LOOK AT ME AND TO KNOW THAT THIS IS HOW I SWING WHEN I'M SWINGING WELL AND THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING WHEN YOU'RE NOT SWINGING WELL. SO, I, I TALKED TO A LOT
OF PEOPLE AND PEOPLE TOLD ME RICK SMITH IS THE GUY FOR ME. THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, HE WORKS WITH FEEL PLAYERS WHICH, WHICH I FEEL I AM, AND, WE, WE'VE JUST HIT IT OFF. RICK'S A GREAT GUY. WE GET ALONG GREAT AND THE BASIC THING WE'VE DONE IS JUST
WORKED WITH MY SET UP AND SO HE HASN'T DONE A WHOLE LOT WITH MY SWING. IT'S BEEN SUCH AN EASY CHANGE AND ONE I FEEL IT'S BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL. I MEAN HE'S GOT ME STANDING WITH BETTER POSTURE, SQUARED MY ALIGNMENT UP A LITTLE BIT AND INSTEAD
OF SEEING, WE'LL WATCH SOME OF MY SWINGS NOW ON THESE, ON THESE LITTLE CLIPS, AND I USED TO SWING KIND OF INSIDE WITH A BIG HIGH FOLLOW THROUGH AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO
SQUARE MYSELF UP WHERE I SWING MORE AROUND AND ARE A LITTLE MORE CONSISTENT WITH SOME MORE POWER, SO IT, IT'S GONE GREAT. I'VE REALLY BEEN HAPPY WORKING WITH RICK. I TALKED TO HIM JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND HE WAS JUST GETTING OUT OF RECOVERY.
I WISH HIM THE BEST. I HOPE HE'S DOING WELL AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HIM AGAIN.
GOOD. GOOD. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE RELATIONSHIP'S GOING WELL. IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD FIT.
IT SURE IS.
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Montana parents can't watch kids play high school golf
Well, this is a one new one.
According to a report from KTVQ in Montana, this line in the Montana State High School Association rule book all but forbids spectators from observing high school golf in that state:
“No spectators/fans are allowed on the course except for certain locations as designated by the tournament manager and club professional.”
Part of the issue, according to the report, is that most courses don't bother to designate those "certain locations" leaving parents unable to watch their kids compete.
“If you tell a parent that they can’t watch their kid play in the Thanksgiving Day football game, they would riot,” Chris Kelley, a high school golf parent, told KTVQ.
The report lists illegal outside coaching as one of the rule's chief motivations, but Montana State women's golf coach Brittany Basye doesn't quite buy that.
“I can go to a softball game and I can sit right behind the pitcher. I can make hand signals,” she is quoted in the report. “I can yell out names. I can do the same thing on a softball field that might affect that kid. Football games we can yell as loud as we want when someone is making a pass or a catch.”
The MHSA has argued that unlike other sports that are played in a confined area, the sprawling nature of a golf course would make it difficult to hire enough marshals to keep unruly spectators in check.
Meanwhile, there's a lawyer quoted in the report claiming this is some kind of civil rights issue.
Worth note, Montana is one of only two states that doesn't allow spectators on the course. The other state, Alaska, does not offer high school golf.
PGA Tour suspends Hensby for anti-doping violation
Mark Hensby has been suspended for one year by the PGA Tour for violating the Tour’s anti-doping policy by failing to provide a sample after notification.
The Tour made the announcement Monday, reporting that Hensby will be eligible to return on Oct. 26, 2018.
The statement reads:
The PGA Tour announced today that Mark Hensby has violated the Tour Anti-Doping Policy for failing to provide a drug testing sample after notification and has been suspended for a period of one year. He will be eligible to return on Oct. 26, 2018.
Hensby, 46, won the John Deere Classic in 2004. He played the Web.com Tour this past year, playing just 14 events. He finished 142nd on the money list. He once ranked among the top 30 in the Official World Golf Ranking but ranks No. 1,623 today.
The Sunshine Tour recently suspended player Etienne Bond for one year for failing a drug test. Players previously suspended by the PGA Tour for violating the anti-doping policy include Scott Stallings and Doug Barron.
The PGA Tour implemented revisions to its anti-doping program with the start of the 2017-18 season. The revisions include blood testing and the supplementation of the Tour’s prohibited list to include all of the substances and methods on the World Anti-Doping Agency prohibited list. As part of this season’s revisions, the Tour announced it would also begin reporting suspensions due to recreational drug use.
The Tour said it would not issue further comment on Hensby's suspension.
Good time to hang up on viewer call-ins
Golf announced the most massive layoff in the industry’s history on Monday morning.
Armchair referees around the world were given their pink slips.
It’s a glorious jettisoning of unsolicited help.
Goodbye and good riddance.
The USGA and R&A’s announcement of a new set of protocols Monday will end the practice of viewer call-ins and emails in the reporting of rules infractions.
“What we have heard from players and committees is ‘Let’s leave the rules and administration of the event to the players and those responsible for running the tournament,’” said Thomas Pagel, the USGA’s senior director of rules and amateur status.
The protocols, formed by a working group that included the PGA Tour, LPGA, European Tour, Ladies European Tour and the PGA of America, also establish the use of rules officials to monitor the televised broadcasts of events.
Additionally, the protocols will eliminate the two-shot penalty when a player signs an incorrect scorecard because the player was unaware of a violation.
Yes, I can hear you folks saying armchair rules officials help make sure every meaningful infraction comes to light. I hear you saying they make the game better, more honest, by helping reduce the possibility somebody violates the rules to win.
But at what cost?
The chaos and mayhem armchair referees create can ruin the spirit of fair play every bit as much as an unreported violation. The chaos and mayhem armchair rules officials create can be as much a threat to fair play as the violations themselves.
The Rules of Golf are devised to protect the integrity of the game, but perfectly good rules can be undermined by the manner and timeliness of their enforcement.
We have seen the intervention of armchair referees go beyond the ruin of fair play in how a tournament should be conducted. We have seen it threaten the credibility of the game in the eyes of fans who can’t fathom the stupidity of a sport that cannot separate common-sense enforcement from absolute devotion to the letter of the law.
In other sports, video review’s timely use helps officials get it right. In golf, video review too often makes it feel like the sport is getting it wrong, because timeliness matters in the spirit of fair play, because the retroactive nature of some punishments are as egregious as the violations themselves.
We saw that with Lexi Thompson at the ANA Inspiration this year.
Yes, she deserved a two-shot penalty for improperly marking her ball, but she didn’t deserve the two-shot penalty for signing an incorrect scorecard. She had no idea she was signing an incorrect scorecard.
We nearly saw the ruin of the U.S. Open at Oakmont last year, with Dustin Johnson’s victory clouded by the timing of a video review that left us all uncertain if the tournament was playing out under an incorrect scoreboard.
“What these protocols are put in place for, really, is to make sure there are measures to identify the facts as soon as possible, in real time, so if there is an issue to be dealt with, that it can be handled quickly and decisively,” Pagel said.
We have pounded the USGA for making the game more complicated and less enjoyable than it ought to be, for creating controversy where common sense should prevail, so let’s applaud executive director Mike Davis, as well as the R&A, for putting common sense in play.
Yes, this isn’t a perfect answer to handling rules violations.
There are trap doors in the protocols that we are bound to see the game stumble into, because the game is so complex, but this is more than a good faith effort to make the game better.
This is good governance.
And compared to the glacial pace of major rules change of the past, this is swift.
This is the USGA and R&A leading a charge.
We’re seeing that with the radical modernization of the Rules of Golf scheduled to take effect in 2019. We saw it with the release of Decision 34/3-10 three weeks after Thompson’s loss at the ANA, with the decision limiting video review to “reasonable judgment” and “naked eye” standards. We’re hearing it with Davis’ recent comments about the “horrible” impact distance is having on the game, leading us to wonder if the USGA is in some way gearing up to take on the golf ball.
Yes, the new video review protocols aren’t a panacea. Rules officials will still miss violations that should have been caught. There will be questions about level playing fields, about the fairness of stars getting more video review scrutiny than the rank and file. There will be questions about whether viewer complaints were relayed to rules officials.
Golf, they say, isn’t a game of perfect, and neither is rules enforcement, though these protocols make too much sense to be pilloried. They should be applauded. They should solve a lot more problems than they create.
Lexi 'applaud's USGA, R&A for rules change
Lexi Thompson’s pain may prove to be the rest of golf’s gain.
David Rickman, the R&A’s executive director of governance, acknowledged on Golf Channel’s "Morning Drive" Monday that the new protocols that will eliminate the use of TV viewer call-ins and emails to apply penalties was hastened by the controversy following Thompson’s four-shot penalty at the ANA Inspiration in early April. The new protocols also set up rules officials to monitor TV broadcasts beginning next year.
“Clearly, that case has been something of a focus point for us,” Rickman said.
Thompson reacted to the new protocols in an Instagram post.
“I applaud the USGA and the R&A for their willingness to revise the Rules of Golf to address certain unfortunate situations that have arisen several times in the game of golf,” Thompson wrote. “In my case, I am thankful no one else will have to deal with an outcome such as mine in the future.”
Thompson was penalized two shots for improperly returning her ball to its mark on a green during Saturday’s round after a viewer emailed LPGA officials during Sunday’s broadcast. She was penalized two more shots for signing an incorrect scorecard for her Saturday round. Thompson ultimately lost in a playoff to So Yeon Ryu.
The new protocols will also eliminate the additional two-shot penalty a player receives for failing to include a penalty when a player was unaware of the penalty.
Shortly after the ANA Inspiration, the USGA and R&A led the formation of a video review working group, which included the PGA Tour, LPGA, European Tour, Ladies European Tour and PGA of America.
Also, just three weeks after Thompson was hit with the four-shot penalty, the USGA and R&A released a new Rules of Golf decision decision (34-3/10) limiting video evidence in two ways:
1. If an infraction can’t be seen with the naked eye, there’s no penalty, even if video shows otherwise.
2. If a tournament committee determines that a player does “all that can be reasonably expected to make an accurate estimation or measurement” in determining a line or position to play from or to spot a ball, then there will be no penalty even if video replay later shows that to be wrong.
While the USGA and R&A said the new decision wasn’t based on Thompson’s ANA incident, LPGA players immediately began calling it the “Lexi Rule.”