Golf Talk Live - Raymond Floyd Transcript Segment 4
NOW THAT'S THE STARE YOU THREATENED TO GIVE ME IF I ASK THE WRONG QUESTION, RIGHT?
YOU KNOW JACK HAD THIS INCREDIBLE ROTATING GROUP OF CHALLENGERS HIS WHOLE CAREER. YOU AND ARNOLD, AND BILLY, AND GARY AND TOM AND LEE. DO YOU THINK THAT, THAT TIGER'S GOING TO NEED THAT SAME ROTATING GROUP OF CHALLENGERS TO SUSTAIN HIS LEVEL OF INTEREST IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS?
HE'S A VERY SPECIAL PERSON AND PLAYER I THINK AND I THINK THERE, THERE WILL BE THE CALIBER OF PLAYER OUT THERE THAT WILL, WILL CHALLENGE HIM, CERTAINLY. I DON'T THINK THAT
THE GUYS TODAY, MAYBE I SHOULD EXPRESS IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, I THINK THE GUYS TODAY THAT HE HAS COME IN THE GAME WITH OR WERE JUST SLIGHTLY IN FRONT OF HIM ARE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME BEATING HIM, BUT WHAT I THINK WILL HAPPEN IS THE YOUNGER PLAYERS THAT ARE
COLLEGIATES NOW OR PLAYERS THAT ARE TRYING TO GET OUT THERE, THEY REALIZE THAT THE BAR WAS MOVED. THAT THE GAME HAS GONE TO ANOTHER LEVEL AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MINDSET THAT THEY CAN DO IT AND THEY WILL
COME OUT AND CHALLENGE TIGER I THINK. I THINK A PHIL MICKELSON IS GOING TO WIN A MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIP. I THINK A DAVID DUVAL'S GOING TO WIN A MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIP, SO CERTAINLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE AND
THEY'RE GOING TO COMPETE WITH HIM, BUT RIGHT NOW HE IS, PHEW, IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH TO BEAT HIM.
THE OPEN GOES BACK TO SOUTHERN HILLS OF COURSE IN JUNE AND YOU WON YOUR SECOND PGA THERE IN 1982. DO YOU THINK YOU EVER PLAYED A BETTER ROUND OF GOLF THAN THE OPENING ROUND 63 TO START THAT WIRE TO WIRE WIN?
OH, 63 ON A GOLF COURSE LIKE THAT, A HUNDRED DEGREE WEATHER, A PGA CHAMPIONSHIP, OPENING ROUND. THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO BEAT THAT.
IS THAT WHEN YOU DID THE SMART PLAYING WITH THE LEAD AS OPPOSED TO BEING CONSERVATIVE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER?
UH PROBABLY. I, I CAN'T RECALL EXACTLY THE MINDSET, BUT I KNOW I WAS PLAYING WELL BUT STILL TO THINK ABOUT PUTTING UP 63 ON A GOLF COURSE LIKE THAT IS, I DON'T THINK REALISTIC,
ESPECIALLY IN A PGA CHAMPIONSHIP. ROUGH, REALLY DEEP. YOU GOT TO HIT FAIRWAYS, YOU GOT TO HIT GREENS AND THEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE PUTTS, UH, IT'S NICE TO REFLECT ON THOSE THINGS AND KNOW THAT YOU'VE DONE IT (LAUGHS).
NOW ANOTHER ROUND THAT MIGHT BE ALMOST AS GOOD, IF NOT AS GOOD AS A 63 WAS A CLOSING 66 THAT YOU SHOT AT SHINNECOCK IN 1986 TO WIN YOUR U.S. OPEN. WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THAT 66 UNDER ALL THAT PRESSURE AND THE 77 THAT YOU SHOT THE SUNDAY BEFORE AT WESTCHESTER WHEN YOU HAD BEEN RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THINGS WITH A CHANCE TO WIN THAT GOLF TOURNAMENT?
WELL I THINK MARIA CAN TAKE CREDIT FOR THAT AS WELL. I HAD BEEN IN THE LEAD AT WESTCHESTER, OR TIED, I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY, GOING TO THE LAST ROUND AND I THINK THE NEXT NINE PLAYERS, THE REST OF THE PLAYERS IN THE TOP TEN, COLLECTIVELY HAD NOT WON NEARLY AS MANY TITLES THAT I, AS I.
I WENT OUT AND BLEW AN ENGINE, HAD FOUR FLAT TIRES . EVERYTHING WENT TO HELL IN A HAND BASKET AND WE GOT IN THE CAR TO DRIVE FROM WESTCHESTER OUT TO LONG ISLAND FOR, FOR THE U.S. OPEN THE FOLLOWING WEEK AND ON THE DRIVE MARIA SAID, WHAT HAPPENED?
AND AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SHORTEN THIS STORY BECAUSE IT GOT A LITTLE BIT HEATED ON THE WAY OUT, BUT
AND THAT'S A THREE HOUR DRIVE
YES, IT WAS A LONG DRIVE. AND SHE PUT IT TO ME THAT YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS IT. WHAT IF YOU'RE IN CONTENTION NEXT WEEK IN THE U.S. OPEN AND YOU DON'T ADDRESS WHAT HAPPENED TODAY. WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE U.S. OPEN?
YOU'RE PLAYING WELL. COULD IT HAPPEN AGAIN? AND WHEN YOU START THINKING ABOUT IT, SURE IT COULD, SO I... FINALLY SUCCUMBED. I WAS VERY UPSET. I'M ALWAYS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT
KIND OF PUSH IT UNDER THE RUG AND LET IT GO. IT'S GOLF, IT'LL, YOU KNOW, IT'LL WORK ITSELF OUT. MARIA IS FROM THE OTHER SCHOOL AND SHE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT AND LET'S FACE IT RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T, WE DON'T WAIT AND FORTUNATELY, THROUGHOUT THAT WEEK
I GAVE SOME THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HANDLE THIS? WHAT, WHY DID YOU SHOOT 77. TO THIS DAY I DON'T KNOW THAT I KNOW WHY I SHOT 77. I'VE HAD THOSE ROUNDS BEFORE AND, AND ALL
OF US HAVE. WHEN THE WHEELS COME OFF, IT IS THE HARDEST SHIP TO RIGHT THAT YOU'VE EVER SEEN, BUT THE KEY IS TO NOT LET IT START SLIPPING. I THINK THAT'S THE REAL KEY, AND WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY YOU HAVE TO CAPITALIZE BECAUSE YOU DON'T
HAVE A LOT OF CHANCES TO WIN ANY EVENT AND ESPECIALLY A MAJOR, SO, I THINK MARIA HAS THAT TROPHY ON HER MANTLE, ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHERS THAT I'VE, THAT I'VE GOTTEN CREDIT FOR.
WE'VE GOT ANOTHER TROPHY OF YOURS THAT WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO, ANOTHER WINNING FLOYD, YOUR SON ROBERT, AS SOON AS WE COME BACK. DON'T GO AWAY.
THERE'S RAY AND RAY JUNIOR.
THERE'S RAY AND ROBERT, AND THE THREE OF THEM HAVE WON THE FATHER-SON CHALLENGE FOUR TIMES BETWEEN THEM.
Teenager Im wins Web.com season opener
South Korea's Sungjae Im cruised to a four-shot victory at The Bahamas Great Exuma Classic, becoming just the second teenager to win an event on the Web.com Tour.
Im started the final day of the season-opening event in a share of the lead but still with six holes left in his third round. He was one shot behind Carlos Ortiz when the final round began, but moved ahead of the former Web.com Player of the Year thanks to a 7-under 65 in rainy and windy conditions. Im's 13-under total left him four clear of Ortiz and five shots ahead of a quartet of players in third.
Still more than two months shy of his 20th birthday, Im joins Jason Day as the only two teens to win on the developmental circuit. Day was 19 years, 7 months and 26 days old when he captured the 2007 Legend Financial Group Classic.
Recent PGA Tour winners Si Woo Kim and Patrick Cantlay and former NCAA champ Aaron Wise all won their first Web.com Tour event at age 20.
Other notable finishes in the event included Max Homa (T-7), Erik Compton (T-13), Curtis Luck (T-13) and Lee McCoy (T-13). The Web.com Tour will remain in the Bahamas for another week, with opening round of The Bahamas Great Abaco Classic set to begin Sunday.
Mickelson grouped with Z. Johnson at CareerBuilder
He's not the highest-ranked player in this week's field, but Phil Mickelson will likely draw the biggest crowd at the CareerBuilder Challenge as he makes his first start of 2018. Here are a few early-round, marquee groupings to watch as players battle the three-course rotation in the Californian desert (all times ET):
12:10 p.m. Thursday, 11:40 a.m. Friday, 1:20 p.m. Saturday: Phil Mickelson, Zach Johnson
Mickelson is making his fourth straight trip to Palm Springs, having cracked the top 25 each of the last three times. In addition to their respective amateur partners, he'll play the first three rounds alongside a fellow Masters champ in Johnson, who tied for 14th last week in Hawaii and finished third in this event in 2014.
11:40 a.m. Thursday, 1:20 p.m. Friday, 12:50 p.m. Saturday: Jon Rahm, Bubba Watson
At No. 3 in the world, Rahm is the highest-ranked player teeing it up this week and the Spaniard returns to an event where he finished T-34 last year in his tournament debut. He'll play the first two rounds alongside Watson, who is looking to bounce back from a difficult 2016-17 season and failed to crack the top 50 in two starts in the fall.
11:40 a.m. Thursday, 1:20 p.m. Friday, 12:50 p.m. Saturday: Patrick Reed, Brandt Snedeker
Reed made the first big splash of his career at this event in 2014, shooting three straight rounds of 63 en route to his maiden victory. He'll be joined by Snedeker, whose bid for a Masters bid via the top 50 of the world rankings came up short last month and who hasn't played this event since a missed cut in 2015.
1:10 p.m. Thursday, 12:40 p.m. Friday, 12:10 p.m. Saturday: Patton Kizzire, Bill Haas
Kizzire heads east after a whirlwind Sunday ended with his second win of the season in a six-hole playoff over James Hahn in Honolulu. He'll play alongside Haas, who won this event in both 2010 and 2015 to go with a runner-up finish in 2011 and remains the tournament's all-time leading money winner.
Mackay still a caddie at heart, even with a microphone
HONOLULU – All it took was one week back on the bag to remind Jim ''Bones'' Mackay what he always loved about being a caddie.
It just wasn't enough for this to be the ultimate mic drop.
Mackay traded in his TV microphone at the Sony Open for the 40-pound bag belonging to Justin Thomas.
It was his first time caddying since he split with Phil Mickelson six months ago. Mackay was only a temporary replacement at Waialae for Jimmy Johnson, a good friend and Thomas' regular caddie who has a nasty case of plantar fasciitis that will keep him in a walking boot for the next month.
''The toughest thing about not caddying is missing the competition, not having a dog in the fight,'' Mackay said before the final round. ''There's nothing more rewarding as a caddie, in general terms, when you say, 'I don't like 6-iron, I like 7,' and being right. I miss that part of it.''
The reward now?
''Not stumbling over my words,'' he said. ''And being better than I was the previous week.''
He has done remarkably well since he started his new job at the British Open last summer, except for that time he momentarily forgot his role. Parts of that famous caddie adage – ''Show up, keep up, shut up'' – apparently can apply to golf analysts on the ground.
During the early hours of the telecast, before Johnny Miller came on, Justin Leonard was in the booth.
''It's my job to report on what I see. It's not my job to ask questions,'' Mackay said. ''I forgot that for a minute.''
Leonard was part of a booth discussion on how a comfortable pairing can help players trying to win a major. That prompted Mackay to ask Leonard if he found it helpful at the 1997 British Open when he was trying to win his first major and was paired with Fred Couples in the final round at Royal Troon.
''What I didn't know is we were going to commercial in six seconds,'' Mackay said. ''I would have no way of knowing that, but I completely hung Justin out to dry. He's now got four seconds to answer my long-winded question.''
During the commercial break, the next voice Mackay heard belonged to Tommy Roy, the executive golf producer at NBC.
''Bones, don't ever do that again.''
It was Roy who recognized the value experienced caddies could bring to a telecast. That's why he invited Mackay and John Wood, the caddie for Matt Kuchar, into the control room at the 2015 Houston Open so they could see how it all worked and how uncomfortable it can be to hear directions coming through an earpiece.
Both worked as on-course reporters at Sea Island that fall.
And when Mickelson and Mackay parted ways after 25 years, Roy scooped up the longtime caddie for TV.
It's common for players to move into broadcasting. Far more unusual is for a caddie to be part of the mix. Mackay loves his new job. Mostly, he loves how it has helped elevate his profession after so many years of caddies being looked upon more unfavorably than they are now.
''I want to be a caddie that's doing TV,'' he said. ''That's what I hope to come across as. The guys think this is good for caddies. And if it's good for caddies, that makes me happy. Because I'm a caddie. I'll always be a caddie.''
Not next week at Torrey Pines, where Mickelson won three times. Not a week later in Phoenix, where Mackay lives. Both events belong to CBS.
And not the Masters.
He hasn't missed Augusta since 1994, when Mickelson broke his leg skiing that winter.
''That killed me,'' he said, ''but not nearly as much as it's going to kill me this year. I'll wake up on Thursday of the Masters and I'll be really grumpy. I'll probably avoid television at all costs until the 10th tee Sunday. And I'll watch. But it will be, within reason, the hardest day of my life.''
There are too many memories, dating to when he was in the gallery right of the 11th green in 1987 when Larry Mize chipped in to beat Greg Norman. He caddied for Mize for two years, and then Scott Simpson in 1992, and Mickelson the rest of the way. He was on the bag for Lefty's three green jackets.
Mackay still doesn't talk much about what led them to part ways, except to say that a player-caddie relationship runs its course.
''If you lose that positive dynamic, there's no point in continuing,'' he said. ''It can be gone in six months or a year or five years. In our case, it took 25 years.''
He says a dozen or so players called when they split up, and the phone call most intriguing was from Roy at NBC.
''I thought I'd caddie until I dropped,'' Mackay said.
He never imagined getting yardages and lining up putts for anyone except the golfer whose bag he was carrying. Now it's for an audience that measures in the millions. Mackay doesn't look at it as a second career. And he won't rule out caddying again.
''It will always be tempting,'' he said. ''I'll always consider myself a caddie. Right now, I'm very lucky and grateful to have the job I do.''
Except for that first week in April.
The Social: The end was nigh, then it wasn't
The star power at the Sony Open may have been overshadowed by a missile scare, but there were plenty of other social media stories that kept the golf world on its toes this week, including some insight on Tiger Woods from a round with President Obama and some failed trick shots.
All that and more in this week's edition of The Social.
By now you've undoubtedly heard about the false alarm in Hawaii on Saturday, where just about everyone, including most Sony Open participants, woke up to an emergency cell phone alert that there was a ballistic missile heading toward the islands.
Hawaiian emergency management officials eventually admitted the original message was mistakenly sent out, but before they did, people (understandably) freaked out.
As the situation unfolded, some Tour pros took to social media to express their confusion and to let the Twittersphere know how they planned on riding out this threat:
This is unreal,hiding in kitchen beachside missile attack from North Korea. Alarm went out all over Hawaii, and it’s no test...— Jesper Parnevik (@JesperParnevik) January 13, 2018
In a basement under hotel. Barely any service. Can you send confirmed message over radio or tv https://t.co/qHLeQSecnd— JJ Spaun (@JJSpaun) January 13, 2018
Under mattresses in the bathtub with my wife, baby and in laws. Please lord let this bomb threat not be real.— John Peterson (@JohnPetersonFW) January 13, 2018
While I would've been in that bathtub under the mattress with John Peterson, his wife, baby and in-laws (wait, how big is this tub?), here's how Justin Thomas reacted to the threat of impending doom:
Yeah, you heard that right.
“I was like ‘there’s nothing I can do,'” Thomas said. ”I sat on my couch and opened up the sliding door and watched TV and listened to music. I was like, if it’s my time, it’s my time.”
Hmmm ... can we just go ahead and award him all the 2018 majors right now? Because if Thomas is staring down death in mid-January, you gotta like the kid's chances on the back nine Sunday at Augusta and beyond.
Before the Hawaiian Missile Crisis of 2018, things were going about as well as they could at Waialae Country Club, starting with the Wednesday pro-am.
Jordan Spieth might have been the third-biggest star in his own group, after getting paired with superstar singer/songwriter/actor Nick Jonas and model/actress Kelly Rohrbach.
You'd be hard-pressed to find a more photogenic group out on the course, and the "Baywatch" star has a gorgeous swing as well, which makes sense, considering she was a former collegiate golfer at Georgetown.
As impressive as that group was, they were somehow outshined by an amateur in another group, former NFL coach June Jones.
Jones, who now coaches the CFL's Hamilton Tiger-Cats, played his round in bare feet and putted with his 5-iron, a remedy he came up with to battle the yips.
Considering he made back-to-back birdies at one point during the day, it's safe to say he's won that battle.
With Tiger Woods' return to the PGA Tour about a week away, that sound you hear is the hype train motoring full speed down the tracks.
First, his ex-girlfriend Lindsey Vonn told Sports Illustrated that she hopes this comeback works out for him.
“I loved him and we’re still friends. Sometimes, I wish he would have listened to me a little more, but he’s very stubborn and he likes to go his own way," the Olympic skiier said. "I hope this latest comeback sticks. I hope he goes back to winning tournaments.”
Vonn also mentioned she thinks Woods is very stubborn and that he didn't listen to her enough. That really shouldn't shock anyone who watched him win the 2008 U.S. Open on one leg. Don't think there were a lot of people in his ear telling him that was a great idea at the time.
We also have this report from Golf Channel Insider Tim Rosaforte, stating that the 14-time major champ recently played a round with former president Barack Obama at The Floridian in Palm City, Fla., where he received rave reviews from instructor Claude Harmon.
The Farmers Insurance Open is sure to be must-see TV, but until then, I'm here for all of the rampant speculation and guesses as to how things will go. The more takes the better. Make them extra spicy, please and thanks.
These poor New Orleans Saints fans. Guess the only thing you can do is throw your 65-inch TV off the balcony and get 'em next year.
Here's two more just for good measure.
Focus on a different face every time and this 15 second clip turns into 10 minutes of pure entertainment pic.twitter.com/JJeVV5eaVh— Laces Out (@LacesOutShow) January 15, 2018
Farts ... will they ever not be funny?
Perhaps someday, but that day was not early last week, when Tommy Fleetwood let one rip on his European teammates during EurAsia Cup team photos.
Fleetwood went 3-0-0 in the event, helping Europe to a victory over Asia, perhaps by distracting his opponents with the aid of his secret weapon.
Also, how about the diabolical question, "Did you get that?"
Yeah Tommy, we all got that.
Ahhh ... golf trick shot videos. You were fun while you lasted.
But now we’ve officially come to the point in their existence where an unsuccessful attempt is much more entertaining than a properly executed shot, and right on cue, a couple of pros delivered some epic fails.
We start with Sony Open runner-up James Hahn’s preparation for the event, where for some reason he thought he needed to practice a running, jumping, Happy Gilmore-esque shot from the lip of a bunker. It didn’t exactly work out.
Not to be outdone, Ladies European Tour pro Carly Booth attempted the juggling-drive-it-out-of-midair shot made famous by the Bryan Bros, and from the looks of things she might have caught it a little close to the hosel.
PSA to trick-shot artists everywhere: For the sake of the viewing public, if you feel a miss coming on, please make sure the camera is rolling.
Seriously, though, who cares? Definitely not these guys and gals, who took the time to comment, "who cares?" They definitely do not care.