Golf Talk Live - Sam Snead Transcript Segment 2

By Golf Channel DigitalNovember 11, 1996, 5:00 pm
PETER KESSLER
SAM WHEN YOU WERE A KID, WAS IT HARD TO HAVE IDOLS? I MEAN THERE WAS NO TV, THERE WASNT RADIO, THERE WAS PAPER, HOW DID YOU, IF YOU HAD ANY DEVELOP IDOLS IN THOSE DAYS?

SAM SNEAD
I SAW VERY FEW, NO TV THEN, VERY LITTLE RADIO, HEY TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO GET OUT OF HOT SPRINGS????

PETER KESSLER
DID YOU KNOW, LIKE DID YOU KNOW FOR EXAMPLE IN THE 2O'S WHEN YOU WERE, YOU KNOW STARTING, YOU WERE A TEENAGER. DID YOU KNOW WHAT JONES, HAGAN AND SARZIN??? WERE UP TO?

SAM SNEAD
NOT REALLY. YOU DIDNT HEAR THEM, JUST READ THEM, AND AFTER I GOT GROWN I WOULD TRY TO SEE PEOPLE AND I WOULD TRY TO IMELUATE THOSE. I WOULD DO WELL FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY OWN WAY, AND I THINK THATS THE BEST WAY TO GO. THIS THING FOR KIDS COMING UP TODAY, THEY GET THERE PRETTY QUICK AND DOING GREAT, WELL THEY GOT THEY WAY AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN THEY TAKE ON SOMEBODY THAT CANT BREAK 80 AND HOW IN THE WORLD CAN THEY TELL YOU WHAT IT FEELS LIKE OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR ANYTHING ELSE THAT MATTER AND THEIR TRYING TO SUBSTITUTE SOMETHING ELSE AND FIST THING YOU KNOW THEY ARE GOING THE OPPOSITE WAY. IF I WAS GOING TO LEARN TO PLAY GOLF I WOULD GO TO SOMEBODY THAT HAS DONE IT OR CAN DO IT. NOW HE KNOWS, WELL NOW I'VE WATCHED A LOT OF KIDS TEACH AND OH THEY HAVE A GOOD GIM??? SO TO SPEAK OF WHAT THEY READ AND WHAT THEY HEARD THIS THAT AND THE OTHER. BUT YOU GOT TO GO WITH THE PERSON. I TAUGHT WHEN IN 1936 AT THE GREEN BRIAR??? HAD AN AWFUL LOT OF LESSONS, AND THEY ONLY HAD ONE SHOT AT THEM.

PETER KESSLER
THAT WAS THE YEAR YOU WON YOUR FIRST TOURNAMENT.

SAM SNEAD
WELL THATS.

PETER KESSLER
FIRST PRO TOURNAMENT

SAM SNEAD
WELL THAT WAS IN WEST VIRGINIA. YES, I LEARNED AN AWFUL LOT WATCHING DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND SOME COULD SOMETHING . I HAD A GUY HERE A MONTH AGO WANTED TO TAKE A LESSON, SAID ' I LIKE THAT SNEAD SQUAT' AND I SAID, `WHY WOULD YOU WANT THE SNEAD SQUAT?' HE SAID, `WELL I THINK' I SAID 'HEY YOU DIDNT GET WHERE YOU ARE WITH THE SNEAD SQUAT, WHY DONT YOU DO IT YOUR WAY.

PETER KESSLER
PEOPLE BEEN TRYING TO COPY THAT FOR 60 YEARS THOUGH SAM. WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TALK TO ONE OF OUR VIEWERS, THAT'S WITH US, WEVE GOT JAY IN NEW YORK , HELLO JAY,

JAY - CALLER
HELLO PETER, HOW ARE YOU?

PETER KESSLER
IM DOING FINE.

JAY - CALLER

AND MR. SAM MARVELOUS TO TALK TO YOU.

SAM SNEAD
THANK YOU.

JAY - CALLER

PETER WE NEED GOLF TALK LIVE ON MORE THAN ONCE A WEEK.

PETER KESSLER
OH, THANK YOU.

JAY - CALLER

MR. SAM, I HAD USED TO GET YOUR MARVELOUS GOLF CLUB OUT THERE IN WHITE SULFER SPRINGS EACH SPRING I WOULD GO DOWN TO EACH SPRING FOR FIVE DAYS WALK AROUND, PLAY 54 HOLES A DAY, YOU GOT A LOVELY GOLF COURSE, BUT THAT ISN'T WHAT I REMEMBER ABOUT YOU WHAT I REMEMBER IS EITHER ONE YEAR AND THE THEN FOLLOWING YEAR OR TWO YEARS CONSECUTIVELY YOURSELF AND JULIUS BORIS??? PLAYED AT THE FOREST GATE COUNTRY CLUB IN JAMESBURG NEW JERSEY YOU USED TO APPEAR THERE AND YOU WOULD PLAY A COUPLE OF THE JERSEY PROS AND BEFORE THOSE GAMES THAT YOU PUT ON WE WOULD WALK AROUND WITH YOU GUYS YOU PUT ON A HITTING EXPEDTION EACH OF THOSE TWO YEARS THAT I SAW YOU. BUT I NEVER SAW ANYONE ELSE DO BEFORE OR SINCE AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU STILL DO IT?

SAM SNEAD
WHATS YOUR NAME?

PETER KESSLER
JAY

JAY - CALLER

JAY ALLEN IM IN SARATOGA SPRINGS MR. SAM. PETER, MR. SAM USED TO STAND THERE AND START WITH A SEVEN IRON AND PROGRESS FROM A 7 TO A 5 TO A 3 AND HIT THE BALL TO A YOUNG BOY WHO WAS STANDING OUT IN THE FAIRWAY AND HE WOULD HIT THE BALL INTO THE BASKET THAT THE BOY HAD IN FRONT OF HIM.

SAM SNEAD
OH BOY, THAT'S GETTING BETTER.

JAY - CALLER

THEN AS A FINALE SAM WOULD HIT ONE LEFT AND ONE RIGHT AND THEN THE BOY WOULD TURN AROUND AND HE WOULD CATCH IT BEHIND HIS BACK.

PETER KESSLER
YOU KNOW.

JAY - CALLER

DOES HE STILL DO THAT?

SAM SNEAD
I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY WITH A BASKET ANYMORE.

PETER KESSLER

I HAVE A BASKET AND I AND THE REASON OF COURSE THAT HE WAS SO GOOD AT THAT IS THIS IS THE ONLY FELLOW WHO HAS MADE A HOLE IN ONE WITH EVERY SINGLE CLUB IN THE GOLF BAG SO, IF HE CAN KNOCK IT INTO A FOUR AND A QUARTER INCH HOLE HE CAN CERTAINALY KNOCK IT INTO A PEACH BASKET.

SAM SNEAD
THOSE WERE LOVELY DAYS,

PETER KESSLER
HEY, THEY ARE STILL LOVELY DAYS YOU ARE STILL BEATING ALL THOSE GUYS YOU JUST WON'T TELL ANYBODY WHAT YOU SHOT ANYMORE. WHEN DID YOU DECIDE OF ALL THE SPORTS THAT YOU WERE GREAT AT, YOU WERE GREAT AT BASKETBALL, YOU WERE GREAT AT BASEBALL, WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE TO GO PROFRESSIONAL GOLFER BECAUSE THAT WAS THE LEAST MONEY OF THE THREE AT THE TIME, WASN'T IT?

SAM SNEAD
WELL ACTUALLY AT THAT TIME WE HAD, WE WERE A SMALL SCHOOL AND WE HAD THREE SUBSTITUTES IN FOOTBALL NOT VERY MANY IN BASKETBALL AND I DECIDED I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING MY WAY AND NOT HAVE TO DEPEND ON SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND HELP AND MY COACH HAROLD BELL??? HE SAID TO ME WE WENT TO 3 OR 4 COLLEGES, I COULD HAVE GONE ON A SCHOLARSHIP AND HE SAID, `WHY DON'T YOU TAKE UP GOLF, I THINK IT'S YOUR OWN AND YOU WOULD BE MUCH FURTHER AHEAD IF YOU WENT TO PLAY FOOTBALL OR BASEBALL OR BASKETBALL OR TENNIS OR GOLF, I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND I GOT THE JOB THERE AT THE HOMESTEAD AS CLUB MAKER I PUT WOODEN SHAFTS AND IRON HEADS AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO TRIM THEM DOWN, YOU'DE HAVE TO FEEL TO GET THE RIGHT FLAKES, SOME WOULD BE LARGES AND THE OTHERS, THEY WOULD SAY 'HEY THIS IS A LOT BIGGER THAN THAT ONE', AND I SAID, `WELL THAT ONE ISN'T AS STRONG AS THE OTHER ONE SO YOU WANT THE SAME FEEL IN EVERYONE OF THEM. WELL I GOT TO THE POINT WHERE I COULD TELL YOU RIGHT TO THE HALF POINT WHAT THE CLUB SWUNG, HOW HEAVY IT WAS.

PETER KESSLER
THEY USED TO SAY THAT BOBBY JONES' CLUBS IN THE 20'S THAT WERE ALL HICKORY THAT HE PICKED THEM ALL OUT, THEY WERE ALL PERFECT EXCEPT THE 8 IRON AND HE ALWAYS HAD TROUBLE WITH THE 8 IRON AND WHEN THEY FINALLY INVENTED THE MACHINE IN 1930 TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE SWING WEIGHT WAS THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS A LITTLE OFF.

SAM SNEAD
HUMMM

PETER KESSLER
THAT HAPPEN TO YOU?

SAM SNEAD
I HAD ONE CLUB, A 7 IRON I'DE HOOK THAT THING, I WOULDN'T HOOK ANYTHING ELSE I BENT IT, I BEAT IT AND I DID EVERYTHING POSSIBLE, WELL I'M GOING TO TEACH YOU A LESSON, BUT I WOULD ALWAYS HOOK WITH THAT CLUB SO, I THOUGHT WELL I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS SO I GOT A NEW SET. AND I NEVER THOUGHT IT WAS RIGHT IF ONE CLUB IN YOUR BAG , IF THERE WAS ONE THAT YOU COULDN'T PLAY. I TRIED TO KEEP ALL OF MY CLUBS MORE OR LESS PRETTY EVEN.

PETER KESSLER
THE PROBLEM IS FOR THE REST OF US, WE CAN'T PLAY ANY OF THEM WORTH A DARN. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK SAM, WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK, DON'T YOU GO AWAY, AND DON'T YOU GO AWAY.

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Fairway wood: TaylorMade M3 (19 degrees), with Aldila Tour Green 75 TX shaft

Irons: TaylorMade P790 (3), P750 (4-PW), with Project X 6.5 shafts

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Randall's Rant: The Euros won't just roll over

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The Ryder Cup topped his list.

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Or similar assertions from TV analysts.

“The Ryder Cup is dead – you just don’t know it yet,” Shipnuck wrote. “One of the greatest events in sport is on the verge of irrelevancy. The young, talented, hungry golfers from the United States, benefitting from the cohesive leadership of the Task Force era, are going to roll to victory in 2018 in Paris.”

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The Euros dominated across the planet, not that they did it with the Ryder Cup as some rallying cry, because they didn’t. But it was a heck of an encouraging start to the year for Bjorn to witness.

Spain’s Jon Rahm won the CareerBuilder Challenge on the PGA Tour, England’s Tommy Fleetwood started the week at Abu Dhabi paired with American and world No. 1 Dustin Johnson and won the European Tour event, and Spain’s Sergio Garcia won the Singapore Open in a rout on the Asian Tour.

And McIlroy looked close to being in midseason form, tying for third in his first start in three months.

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More bulletin board material, too.

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