Golf Talk Live - Tiger Woods Transcript Segment 2

By Golf Channel DigitalDecember 18, 1996, 5:00 pm
PETER KESSLER

WELCOME BACK TO GOLF TALK LIVE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TALK TO ONE OF OUR MANY VIEWERS, WE HAVE ROY IN VIRGINIA, HOW ARE YOU TONIGHT ROY?

PHONE CALLER, ROY

I'M FINE PETER, HOW ARE YOU DOING?

PETER KESSLER

I'M DOING GREAT! PLEASE SAY HI TO TIGER.

PHONE CALLER, ROY

HI TIGER.

TIGER WOODS

HOWDY!

PHONE CALLER , ROY

I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU IF YOU HAD AN RECOLLECTION'S ABOUT THAT NOW FAMOUS 9 HOLE ROUND, YOU WERE 4, AND YOU SHOT IN THE 40'S.

TIGER WOODS

YOU KNOW, I STILL ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO RECOLLECTION WHAT SO EVER. MY ONLY RECOLLECTION OF BEING THAT YOUNG WAS WHEN I WAS 3 I PLAYED IN A PITCH, PUTT AND DRIVE FOR 10 AND UNDER AND IT WAS AT MILES SQUARE GOLF PARK, IT WAS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. AND I FINISHED 3RD IN THE 10 AND UNDER AGE DIVISION, AGE 3 , AND I REMEMBER GETTING THE TROPHY AND IT WAS ALMOST AS BIG AS I WAS, AND I WAS JUST SO PROUD OF THAT AND THAT MOMENT.

PETER KESSLER

WHEN YOU WERE ALSO YOUNG , IS IT TRUE THAT YOUR DAD USE TO PUT YOU THROUGH A REGIME WHERE HE WOULD CLICK THE BRAKE ON THE CART AND DROP CLUBS AT THE TOP OF YOUR SWING AND ROLL BALLS AT YOUR FEET AND YOU HAD TO JUST HANG IN AND GETTING READY FOR ALL THE STUFF THAT'S HAPPENING.

TIGER WOODS

WELL ACTUALLY THAT ONLY HAPPEN WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BIT OLDER. I THINK I WAS ABOUT 13, YEAH 13 I TOLD MY POP, I SAID POP I NEED TO GET TOUGHER, AND I KNOW WHAT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH HAS MADE YOU AVERY TOUGH AND YOU KNOW ALL THOSE PSYCHOLOGICAL DEBRIEFINGS, AND PLOY TO USE BECAUSE HE WAS AN X GREEN BERATE AND HE HAD TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT AND I SAID PUT SOME OF THAT STUFF ON ME AND IT'S GOING TO BE HARDER ON ME AT FIRST, AND I KNOW THAT AND I TOLD HIM ALL THIS AND HE WAS KIND OF SHOCKED THAT I ACTUALLY DID IT, I SAID BUT I NEED IT CAUSE I WANT TO BE TOUGHER AND HE DID IT AND IT GOT TO THE POINT WHERE HE'D BRING ME TO THE EDGE AND THEN BACK OFF, AND BRING ME TO THE EDGE, AND BACK OFF AND IT ABOUT 6 MONTHS OF THIS GOT TO THE POINT, WHERE HE WOULD START TO TRY AND DO IT AND I'D JUST LAUGH AT HIM CAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK ANYMORE.

PETER KESSLER

IF YOU EVER NEED THAT AGAIN I'VE GOT THREE GUYS I PLAY WITH ON SATURDAYS, THAT'S ALL THEY DO, THEY CLICK BRAKES THEY MAKE NOISE TOP OF EVERY BACK SWING AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK THEM TO DO IT.

TIGER WOODS

BUT MY DAD WAS A LITTLE MORE INSIDIOUS THAN THAT. HE DID SOME PRETTY TOUGH STUFF.

PETER KESSLER

LIKE.

TIGER WOODS

NO COMMENT!

PETER KESSLER

REALLY THAT NASTY.

TIGER WOODS

YEAH, IT WAS PRETTY TOUGH BUT, IT WAS NEVER IN A BAD NATURED WAY. IT WAS ALWAYS S IN A WAY THAT HE NEVER DEGRADED YOU AS A PERSON JUST WHAT YOU DID AND YOUR ACTIONS HE WOULD NEVER GET INTO YOUR PERSONALITY, NOTHING LIKE THAT. JUST TRYING TO HIT A SHOT AND HE'D BE PULLING ALL KINDS OF STUFF, JUST SAYING STUFF TO YOU AND IT WOULD BE LIKE, WOW I GOT TO HIT THIS SHOT NOW.

PETER KESSLER

GOD I WAS GOING TO TRY AND PLAY WITH THIS, THIS WEEKEND HE'S OUT LETS GO AHEAD AND TALK TO DAN IN FLORIDA, HELLO DAN.

PHONE CALLER , DAN

HI PETER, GREAT SHOW.

PETER KESSLER

THANKS FOR BEING WITH US

PHONE CALLER , DAN

TIGER CONGRATULATES ON ALL OF YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

TIGER WOODS

THANK YOU.

PHONE CALLER , DAN

TIGER WHEN I HAVE WATCHED YOU HIT THE OCCASIONAL MISS HIT SHOT TO THE RIGHT OF THE TARGET YOU HAVE SAID TO YOURSELF YOU GOT STUCK, COULD YOU PLEASE SHOW ME WHAT CAUSES THAT TENDENCY IN YOUR SWING AND WHAT DO YOU WORK ON TO RESOLVE THAT PROBLEM?

TIGER WOODS

OKAY, IN MY SWING, GETTING STUCK IS CAUSED BY, IN FACT, I HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF HIP SPEED AND MY HIPS FIRE TOO QUICKLY AND MY ARMS DROP BEHIND ME AND BASICALLY MY RIGHT ELBOW RUNS RIGHT INTO MY BODY. I'VE ACTUALLY HAD TIMES WHERE IN TOURNAMENTS MY RIGHT ELBOW CLIPS MY HIP AND I'VE ACTUALLY TRIED TO SQUARE THE CLUB UP WITH MY HANDS YOU DO ENOUGH OF THIS, THIS IS NOT GOOD. AND FOR ME I'VE LEARNED THROUGH BUTCHES TEACHINGS IS THAT FOR ME IN ORDER TO NOT DO THAT IS TO KEEP MY LEFT ARM AS STRAIGHT AS POSSIBLE AT THE TOP OF MY GOLF SWING OR KEEP THE CLUB WAY OUT AWAY FROM ME SO THAT WHEN I COME DOWN I HAVE THE ROOM TO CLEAR MY HIPS AND HAVE MY ARMS FOLLOW IN FRONT OF MY BODY INSTEAD OF BEHIND ME.

PETER KESSLER

NOW, ONE OF THOSE MOVES THAT COST YOU ROUGHLY, A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS I FIGURED WAS WHEN JOHN PULLED THE DRIVER OUT FOR YOU, WHEN I'LL BET FLUFF WOULD OF PULLED OUT THE 3 IRON AT THE SKINS GAME ON A HOLE THAT IF YOU WOULD HAVE JUST KNOCKED IT INTO PLAY, INSTEAD OF HITTING THAT DRIVER YOU HAD A LITTLE SAND WEDGE LEFT IF YOU GET INTO PLAY AND IT PROBABLY GOES ANOTHER HOLE OR TWO.

TIGER WOODS

SO WHAT DEAL WAS IS THAT IN THE PRO AM I ACTUALLY WENT FOR IT I MEAN IT WAS INTO THE WIND AND I HIT IT PIN HIGH THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO WIND AND I KNEW IF I HIT IT SOLID, IF ALL I HAD TO DO WAS TO MAKE SOLID CONTACT AT THE GREEN AND I COULD ACTUALLY KNOCK THE BALL OVER THE GREEN, THAT WHAT WE WERE DEBATING. WHETHER OR NOT TO HIT A SOFT DRAW OR A HARD CUT TO TAKE SOME DISTANCE OFF THE SHOT.

PETER KESSLER

NOW HOW LONG WAS THE SHOT?

TIGER WOODS

IT WAS AH, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 328, TO THE HOLE.

PETER KESSLER

SO A VERY SHORT PAR 4 , THAT ALL OF US COULD OF HIT WITH AN 8 IRON.

TIGER WOODS

IT WAS SHORT PAR 4, EXACTLY YOU COULD OF DONE IT.

PETER KESSLER

ABSOLUTELY, 3 IRON

TIGER WOODS

EXACTLY YOU WOULD HAVE MADE IT WITH NO PROBLEM.

PETER KESSLER

3 IRON OR BIG 4 MAYBE, SO WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM?

TIGER WOODS

THE PROBLEM WAS THAT AS I CAME DOWN AND AS USUAL I GOT STUCK BECAUSE I'M PROTECTING AGAINST GOING IN THE WATER AT ALL.

PETER KESSLER

IF THAT WAS USUAL YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE. USUAL IS YOU KNOCK IT DOWN THE MIDDLE AND.

TIGER WOODS

NO, NO, NO.

PETER KESSLER

YOU KNOCK IT ON THE GREEN, YOU MAKE A 64 AND EVERYBODY GOES CRAZY.

TIGER WOODS

NO, IF YOU EVER LOOK AT ME PLAY I HIT THE BALL ALL OVER THE MAP AND I FOR SOME REASON I CAN GET THE BALL OUT OF TROUBLE CAUSE I GET IT IN THERE SO I CAN ALWAYS GET IT OUT, AND FOR SOME HOW WEED IT AROUND AND SCRAMBLE AND SHOOT SOME KIND OF GOOD NUMBER.

PETER KESSLER

NOW ALL OF YOUR USGA CHAMPIONSHIPS, ALL 6 OF THEM YOU WERE BEHIND, IN EVERY SINGLE MATCH AND IT REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING PHIL MICKELSON SAID EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT ON THURSDAY'S AND FRIDAY'S HE WAS GOING TO WORK HARDER TO MAKE SURE THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE UP TOO MUCH GROUND ON THE WEEKENDS THAT HE WOULD PAY MORE ATTENTION STARTING ON THE FIRST HOLE ON THURSDAY . DO YOU THINK IN SOME OF THOSE MATCHES YOU START OFF BY SEEING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND THEN HAVE TO FIGHT BACK DOES YOUR MIND SET CHANGE?

TIGER WOODS

YOU KNOW, FOR SOME REASON GETTING OUT IN THOSE, FOR SOME REASON, I'VE ALWAYS NATURALLY BEEN A SLOW STARTER, I'M NEVER ONE WHO JUMPS RIGHT OUT OF THE BLOCK USUALLY AND MAKE A WHOLE BUNCH OF BIRDIES RIGHT AWAY. I GET MY MOMENTUM AND THEN PLAY WELL IN THE BACK NINE AND A LOT OF THE TIMES I ACTUALLY RUN INTO A BUZZ SAW IN THE FIRST NINE HOLES, IN JUNIORS THE GUY THAT PLAYED REALLY WELL I REMEMBER BRAD ZUETSKI I THINK HE WAS 3 OR 4 UNDER AFTER 6 HOLES, I WAS DOWN EARLY, I WAS PLAYING WELL BUT I WAS GETTING MY ASS BEAT BUT THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS . YOU SAY AGAINST TRIPP KEENE WHEN HE WAS 7 UNDER AFTER 13 HOLES. SO IT'S PARTLY MY FAULT THAT I DO SOMETIMES START OFF SLOW BUT THEN AGAIN IT'S ALSO SOME OF THEIR FAULT FOR PLAYING REALLY WELL AND BEATING ME.

PETER KESSLER

HOW COULD THEY DO THAT. NOW, GOLF'S A GAME WHERE IT'S HARD TO MAKE STUFF HAPPEN IN A GAME WHERE IT'S MUCH EASIER TO ALLOW IT TO OCCUR BUT IT SEEMS LIKE CLEARLY PARTICULARLY IN THE LAST 3 YEARS IN THE AMATEUR THAT YOU MADE SOMETHING HAPPEN .

TIGER WOODS

RIGHT.

PETER KESSLER

BECAUSE IT WAS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL WHAT DO YOU THINK IT IS INSIDE YOU THAT YOU PULL OUT IN THOSE MOMENTS TO MAKE THE SUPER HUMAN RESULT OCCUR?

TIGER WOODS

YOU KNOW, I THINK IT BOILS DOWN TO ONE IS MY PRE SHOT ROUTINE. I DO THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN SO I'VE DONE IT SO MANY TIMES THAT I THINK IT STEMS FROM BEING A LITTLE KID AND THE FACT THAT I NEVER QUIT IN ANY OF MY ROUNDS, I QUIT ONE TIME AND MY DAD AND I HAD A LECTURE ABOUT IT AND THAT'S THE ONLY TIME I EVER QUIT IN MY ENTIRE LIFE IN GOLF PERIOD. AND I WILL STRUGGLE MY BUTT OFF I WILL CONCENTRATE , I WILL TRY AND IF I SHOOT 90, I SHOOT 90 BUT I'VE NEVER QUIT AND IN THOSE TIMES WHEN I ABSOLUTELY HAD TO PULL SOMETHING OUT FOR SOME REASON I'VE DONE IT SOME MANY TIMES I DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE ANYTHING IT JUST HAPPENS NATURALLY BECAUSE I'VE DONE IT AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN I'VE NEVER QUIT, SO WHEN PEOPLE THINK I'M GOING TO QUIT, IT'S OPPOSITE I STAY THE SAME I ALWAYS HANG IN THERE AND FOR SOME REASON I DIG DOWN DEEP.

PETER KESSLER

AND THERE'S PLENTY THERE TO DIG APPARENTLY. WERE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK AND WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK WITH TIGER.

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Hadwin returns to site of last year's 59

By Will GrayJanuary 17, 2018, 11:04 pm

Adam Hadwin had a career season last year, one that included shooting a 59 and winning a PGA Tour event. But those two achievements didn't occur in the same week.

While Hadwin's breakthrough victory came at the Valspar Championship in March, it was at the CareerBuilder Challenge in January when he first made headlines with a third-round 59 at La Quinta Country Club. Hadwin took a lead into the final round as a result, but he ultimately couldn't keep pace with Hudson Swafford.

He went on to earn a spot at the Tour Championship, and Hadwin made his first career Presidents Cup appearance in October. Now the Canadian returns to Palm Springs, eager to improve on last year's result and hoping to earn a spot in the final group for a third straight year after a T-6 finish in 2016.

"A lot of good memories here in the desert," Hadwin told reporters. "I feel very comfortable here, very at home. Lots of Canadians, so it's always fun to play well in front of those crowds and hopefully looking forward to another good week."

Hadwin's 59 last year was somewhat overshadowed, both by the fact that he didn't win the event and that it came just one week after Justin Thomas shot a 59 en route to victory at the Sony Open. But he's still among an exclusive club of just eight players to have broken 60 in competition on Tour and he's eager to get another crack at La Quinta on Saturday.

"If I'm in the same position on 18, I'm gunning for 58 this year," Hadwin said, "not playing safe for 59."

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Rahm: If I thought like Phil, I could not hit a shot

By Will GrayJanuary 17, 2018, 10:39 pm

When it comes to Jon Rahm and Phil Mickelson, there are plenty of common bonds. Both starred at Arizona State, both are now repped by the same agency and Rahm's former college coach and agent, Tim Mickelson, now serves full-time as his brother's caddie.

Those commonalities mean the two men have played plenty of practice rounds together, but the roads quickly diverge when it comes to on-course behavior. Rahm is quick, fiery and decisive; Mickelson is one of the most analytical players on Tour. And as Rahm told reporters Wednesday at the CareerBuilder Challenge, those differences won't end anytime soon.

"I don't need much. 'OK, it's like 120 (yards), this shot, right," Rahm said. "And then you have Phil, it's like, 'Oh, this shot, the moisture, this going on, this is like one mile an hour wind sideways, it's going to affect it one yard. This green is soft, this trajectory. They're thinking, and I'm like, 'I'm lost.' I'm like, 'God if I do that thought process, I could not hit a golf shot.'"


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The tactics may be more simplified, but Rahm can't argue with the results. While Mickelson is in the midst of a winless drought that is approaching five years, Rahm won three times around the world last year and will defend a PGA Tour title for the first time next week at Torrey Pines.

Both men are in the field this week in Palm Springs, where Mickelson will make his 2018 debut with what Rahm fully expects to be another dose of high-level analytics for the five-time major winner with his brother on the bag.

"It's funny, he gets to the green and then it's the same thing. He's very detail-oriented," Rahm said of Mickelson. "I'm there listening and I'm like, 'Man, I hope we're never paired together for anything because I can't think like this. I would not be able to play golf like that. But for me to listen to all that is really fun."

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DJ changes tune on golf ball distance debate

By Will GrayJanuary 17, 2018, 9:16 pm

World No. 1 Dustin Johnson is already one of the longest hitters in golf, so he's not looking for any changes to be made to golf ball technology - despite comments from him that hinted at just such a notion two months ago.

Johnson is in the Middle East this week for the Abu Dhabi HSBC Championship, and he told BBC Sport Wednesday that he wouldn't be in favor of making changes to the golf ball in order to remedy some of the eye-popping distances players are hitting the ball with ever-increasing frequency.

"It's not like we are dominating golf courses," Johnson said. "When was the last time you saw someone make the game too easy? I don't really understand what all the debate is about because it doesn't matter how far it goes; it is about getting it in the hole."

Johnson's rhetorical question might be answered simply by looking back at his performance at the Sentry Tournament of Champions earlier this month, an eight-shot romp that featured a tee shot on the 433-yard 12th hole that bounded down a slope to within inches of the hole.

Johnson appeared much more willing to consider a reduced-distance ball option at the Hero World Challenge in November, when he sat next to tournament host Tiger Woods and supported Woods' notion that the ball should be addressed.

"I don't mind seeing every other professional sport, they play with one ball. All the pros play with the same ball," Johnson said. "In baseball, the guys that are bigger and stronger, they can hit a baseball a lot further than the smaller guys. ... I think there should be some kind of an advantage for guys who work on hitting it far and getting that speed that's needed, so having a ball, like the same ball that everyone plays, there's going to be, you're going to have more of an advantage."

Speaking Wednesday in Abu Dhabi, Johnson stood by the notion that regardless of whether the rules change or stay the same, he plans to have a leg up on the competition.

"If the ball is limited then it is going to limit everyone," he said. "I'm still going to hit it that much further than I guess the average Tour player."

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LPGA lists April date for new LA event

By Golf Channel DigitalJanuary 17, 2018, 8:18 pm

The LPGA’s return to Los Angeles will come with the new Hugel-JTBC Open being played at Wilshire Country Club April 19-22, the tour announced Wednesday.

When the LPGA originally released its schedule, it listed the Los Angeles event with the site to be announced at a later date.

The Hugel-JTBC Open will feature a 144-player field and a $1.5 million purse. It expands the tour’s West Coast swing, which will now be made up of four events in California in March and April.

The LPGA last played in Los Angeles in 2005. Wilshire Country Club hosted The Office Depot in 2001, with Annika Sorenstam winning there.