Golf Talk Live - Tiger Woods Transcript Segment 3
YOU KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT YOUR DAD AND WE'LL TALK SOME MORE ABOUT HIM TONIGHT. BUT ANOTHER RELATIONSHIP THAT HAS BEEN PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT IN TERMS OF YOUR GOLF DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN BUTCH HARMON.
AND WATCHING THIS USGA TAPE PRODUCED BY BRUCE SMITH. IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT THE 8 IRON THAT YOU HIT AT NEWPORT ON THE 36 HOLE AGAINST BUDDY MARUCHI FROM 146 WHICH WAS A 3/4, 8 IRON.
RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT.
YOU CAN CORRECT ME ANYTIME IF I'M WRONG HERE THAT STOPPED RIGHT NEXT TO THE FLAG. WAS THE SAME DISTANCE YOU HIT THE WEDGE THE YEAR BEFORE AGAINST TRIPP ON 17 AND SO IN A ONE YEAR PERIOD BUTCH HAS GOT YOU TWO CLUBS LESS, SHORTER SWING, TIGHTER SWING, HOW CRUCIAL IS HE TO YOU NOW, AND WILL HE BE GOING FORWARD DO YOU THINK?
HE'S VERY CRUCIAL, HE'S WE'VE KIND OF BUILT THIS GOLF SWING I'M USING RIGHT NOW TOGETHER. HE'S SUPPLIED THE INFORMATION, AND I'VE SUPPLIED THE HARD WORK AND NOT TO SAY THAT BUTCH HASN'T WATCHED HOURS AND HOURS AND HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF VIDEO TAPE OF ME, BUT I GO OUT THERE AND SAY TRY IT ON THE GOLF COURSE AND AS HE KNOWS VERY WELL WHAT EVER HE TEACHES ME I'M GOING TO TRY IT IN COMPETITION RIGHT AWAY . I REMEMBER HIM TEACHING ME A SHOT AT THE US OPEN THIS YEAR . HE SHOWS ME THIS 3 WOOD FROM THE ROUGH AND I SAID YEAH RIGHT, YOU KNOW HE PULLS IT OUT.
YEAH A LITTLE CHIP, OUT OF THE FIRST CUT OF ROUGH I TRY IT THIS WORKS PRETTY GOOD. LOW AND BEHOLD SATURDAY COMES ALONG I GOT THIS SHOT ON THE 18TH IN FRONT OF ALL THESE PEOPLE FOR PAR FROM OFF THE GREEN PULL OUT THE FIRST TIME IN COMPETITION, NEVER PRACTICED IT IN THE HOLE.
I WOULD SAY THAT'S A REASONABLY FAST STUDY ON YOUR PART.
I SEEM TO JUST , I JUST TRY IT ANYWAY WHETHER IT'S GOING TO WORK OR NOT I JUST TRY IT.
WELL IT WAS AN UNEVENTFUL, UNIMPORTANT COMPETITION . LET'S GO AHEAD AND TALK TO CASSANDRA IN NEW YORK. HOW ARE YOU CASSANDRA?
PHONE CALLER, CASSANDRA
HI PETER, HI TIGER HOW ARE YOU DOING
PHONE CALLER, CASSANDRA
GOOD EVENING, I'M SEVENTEEN YEARS OLD AND TIGER YOU ARE DEFINITELY MY ROLE MODEL I APPRECIATE AND ADMIRE YOUR INTELLIGENCE, YOUR INTELLECT, YOUR WIT, AND YOUR OBVIOUS MUSCLE TOUGHNESS. MY QUESTION IS I KNOW YOU PROMISED YOUR FATHER YOU WOULD COMPLETE YOUR EDUCATION AT STANFORD AND I'M WONDERING WHEN ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO THIS CAUSE I KNOW YOUR INTERESTED IN GETTING A DEGREE IN ECONOMICS?
RIGHT, ACTUALLY I'M STARTING NEXT YEAR AND I'VE TALKED WITH SOME OF THE PROFESSORS AT STANFORD AND I'M GOING TO DO SOME CORRESPONDENT CLASSES AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME I KIND OF FIGURED IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME PROBABLY 6 TO 8 YEARS TO GET DONE BECAUSE IT'S 2 YEARS SINCE STANFORD'S ON THE QUARTER SYSTEM WHICH MEANS IT'S A 45 UNITS PER YEAR AND THAT'S GOING TO BE KIND OF TOUGH TO GET ALL 90 UNITS IN 2 YEARS BUT, I'M GOING TO TRY AND DO IT OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME BUT I PROMISED MY PARENTS THAT I WILL GET IT DONE AND THEY SAID AS LONG AS I GET IT DONE. I DON'T CARE WHETHER YOU GET IT DONE WHEN YOUR 100 YEARS OLD, OR WHEN YOUR 21, JUST AS LONG AS YOU GET IT DONE, AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
THE PROFESSOR WHO TEACHES THE MONEY MANAGEMENT COURSE IS LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU CLOSELY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TALK TO RICK IN OHIO, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO ASK TIGER?
PHONE CALLER RICK
AH FIRST , WELL I'D LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO TIGER ON ALL HE'S ACCOMPLISHED THIS YEAR., AND I KNOW YOU PROBABLY COULDN'T ACCOMPLISH THAT WITHOUT BEING IN GOOD PHYSICAL SHAPE SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS IF YOU COULD SHARE WITH US WHAT KIND OF PHYSICAL CONDITIONING PROGRAM YOU FOLLOW.
WHAT DO I FOLLOW HUH, CHEESE BURGER FRIES, STRAWBERRY SHAKE. NO BUT SERIOUSLY IN OFF SEASON I'LL PROBABLY WORK OUT 5 OR 6 TIMES IN A WEEK AND I'LL LIFT WEIGHTS PRETTY HEAVILY AND DO A LOT OF CARDIOVASCULAR, JUST TRYING TO GET MYSELF IN SHAPE BUT WHEN YOUR AT TOURNAMENTS SIGHTS IT'S VERY DIFFICULT AND WHAT I TRY AND DO IT JUST WORK OUT PROBABLY TWICE A WEEK REAL LIGHT WEIGHTS AND MORE THAN ANYTHING STRETCH MORE INTENSE THAN I NORMALLY WOULD AFTER THESE SESSIONS BECAUSE I STILL NEED TO PLAY IN THE TOURNAMENT AND I DON'T WANT TO BE SORE OR TIGHT BUT AT TOURNAMENT SIGHTS I USUALLY DO A LOT OF BIKE RIDING, STAIR MASTER RUNNING, STUFF LIKE THAT AND SWING A WEIGHTED CLUB JUST TO KEEP MY GOLF MUSCLES IN SHAPE.
WHAT DO YOU DO ON THE INTELLECTUAL SIDE TO STAY IN SHAPE , WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT BEFORE A TOURNAMENT, IN TERMS OF A STRATEGY OR COURSE MANAGEMENT OR WHAT'S WORKING WELL FOR YOU. IS THERE SOME KIND OF A PROGRAM ?
YEAH, I LOOK AT BEFORE EVERY ROUND I START WHAT MY TENDENCY HAVE BEEN THROUGHOUT THE WEEK SOME WEEKS YOU HIT THE BALL LEFT, SOME WEEKS YOU HIT THE BALL RIGHT, SHORT AND LONG WHATEVER.
ONLY WHEN I GET STUCK.
ONLY YOU OKAY, I WORK ON JUST BEFORE I GO OUT I THINK ABOUT AND WORK ON MENTALLY WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST, THE LAST COUPLE DAYS MAYBE EVEN THE DAY BEFORE AND I'LL THINK ABOUT WHAT MY TENDENCY'S ARE AND THEN GO ON THE RANGE AND SEE IF THERE STILL THERE AND IF THEY ARE STILL THERE THEN I KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR ON THE GOLF COURSE AND I'LL KNOW WHAT TO PLAY FOR, IF THERE'S TROUBLE HERE I KINDA SHY AWAY FROM IT AND HIT A CERTAIN SHOT WHICH I KNOW I CAN GET AWAY WITH IF A CERTAIN FAULT COMES INTO THE GOLF SWING SO I'M ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT HOW I CAN GET AROUND THE GOLF COURSE WITH A MINIMIZING MY FAULTS AND PLAYING FOR MY TENDENCY'S .
WELL BASED ON THE VIDEO THAT WE JUST SAW THERE DON'T SEEM TO BE TOO MANY, WERE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK. IF YOU LIKED WHAT YOU SAW WHICH WAS FROM TIGER'S TRIPLE, PRODUCED BY BRUCE SMITH YOU CAN ORDER THAT VIDEO BY CALLING 1-800-637-3557, WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.
The missing link: Advice from successful tour pros
Today’s topic is significant in that it underscores the direction golf is headed, a direction that has me a little concerned.
Now, more than ever, it has become the norm for PGA Tour players to put together a team to assist in all aspects of their career. These teams can typically include the player’s swing coach, mental coach, manager, workout specialist, dietician, physical therapist, short-game guru, doctor, accountant, nanny and wife. Though it often concerns me the player may be missing out when others are making decisions for them, that is not the topic.
I want to talk about what most players seem to be inexplicably leaving off their teams.
One of the things that separates great players from the rest of the pack – other than talent – is the great player’s ability to routinely stay comfortable and play with focus and clarity in all situations. Though innate to many, this skill is trainable and can be learned. Don’t get too excited, the details of such a plan are too long and more suited for a book than the short confines of this article.
So, if that aspect of the game is so important, where is the representative on the player’s team who has stood on the 18th tee with everything on the line? Where is the representative on the team who has experienced, over and over, what the player will be experiencing? In other words, where is the successful former tour player on the team?
You look to tennis and many players have such a person on their team. These teacher/mentors include the likes of Boris Becker, Ivan Lendl, Jimmy Connors and Brad Gilbert. Why is it not the norm in golf?
Sure, a few players have sought out the advice of Jack Nicklaus, but he’s not part of a team. The teaching ranks also include some former players like Butch Harmon and a few others. But how many teams include a player who has contended in a major, let alone won one or more?
I’m not here to argue the value and knowledge of all the other coaches who make up a player’s team. But how can the value of a successful tour professional be overlooked? If I’m going to ask someone what I should do in various situations on the course, I would prefer to include the experienced knowledge of players who have been there themselves.
This leads me to the second part of today’s message. Is there a need for the professional players to mix with professional teachers to deliver the best and most comprehensive teaching philosophy to average players? I feel there is.
Most lessons are concerned with changing the student’s swing. Often, this is done with little regard for how it feels to the student because the teacher believes the information is correct and more important than the “feels” of the student. “Stick with it until it’s comfortable” is often the message. This directive methodology was put on Twitter for public consumption a short time back:
Once we give 'em a lesson, we are faced with:— Trackman Maestro (@TrackmanMaestro) January 16, 2018
A. Will they do what we asked them to do
B. Can they do what we asked them to do
C. Will they put in the practice time
D. The fact that golf is a hard game
We face multiple barriers as golf instructors.
On the other hand, the professional player is an expert at making a score and understands the intangible side of the game. The intangible side says: “Mechanics cannot stand alone in making a good player.” The intangible side understands “people feel things differently”; ask Jim Furyk to swing like Dustin Johnson, or vice versa. This means something that looks good to us may not feel right to someone else.
The intangible side lets us know that mechanics and feels must walk together in order for the player to succeed. From Ben Hogan’s book:
“What I have learned I have learned by laborious trial and error, watching a good player do something that looked right to me, stumbling across something that felt right to me, experimenting with that something to see if it helped or hindered, adopting it if it helped, refining it sometimes, discarding it if it didn’t help, sometimes discarding it later if it proved undependable in competition, experimenting continually with new ideas and old ideas and all manner of variations until I arrived at a set of fundamentals that appeared to me to be right because they accomplished a very definite purpose, a set of fundamentals which proved to me they were right because they stood up and produced under all kinds of pressure.”
Hogan beautifully described the learning process that could develop the swings of great players like DJ, Furyk, Lee Trevino, Jordan Spieth, Nicklaus, etc.
Bob Toski is still teaching. Steve Elkington is helping to bring us the insight of Jackie Burke. Hal Sutton has a beautiful teaching facility outside of Houston. And so on. Just like mechanics and feels, it’s not either-or – the best message comes from both teachers and players.
Lately, it seems the scale has swung more to one side; let us not forget the value of insights brought to us by the players who have best mastered the game.
Woods, Rahm, Rickie, J-Day headline Torrey field
Tiger Woods is set to make his 2018 debut.
Woods is still part of the final field list for next week’s Farmers Insurance Open, the headliner of a tournament that includes defending champion Jon Rahm, Hideki Matsuyama, Justin Rose, Rickie Fowler, Phil Mickelson and Jason Day.
In all, 12 of the top 26 players in the world are teeing it up at Torrey Pines.
Though Woods has won eight times at Torrey Pines, he hasn’t broken 71 in his past seven rounds there and hasn’t played all four rounds since 2013, when he won. Last year he missed the cut after rounds of 76-72, then lasted just one round in Dubai before he withdrew with back spasms.
After a fourth back surgery, Woods didn’t return to competition until last month’s Hero World Challenge, where he tied for ninth.
Woods has committed to play both the Farmers Insurance Open and next month's Genesis Open at Riviera, which benefits his foundation.
Even on 'off' day, Rahm shoots 67 at CareerBuilder
Jon Rahm didn’t strike the ball as purely Friday as he did during his opening round at the CareerBuilder Challenge.
He still managed a 5-under 67 that put him just one shot off the lead heading into the weekend.
“I expected myself to go to the range (this morning) and keep flushing everything like I did yesterday,” said Rahm, who shot a career-low 62 at La Quinta on Thursday. “Everything was just a little bit off. It was just one of those days.”
After going bogey-free on Thursday, Rahm mixed four birdies and two bogeys over his opening six holes. He managed to settle down around the turn, then made two birdies on his final three holes to move within one shot of Andrew Landry (65).
Rahm has missed only five greens through two rounds and sits at 15-under 129.
The 23-year-old Spaniard won in Dubai to end the year and opened 2018 with a runner-up finish at the Sentry Tournament of Champions. He needs a top-6 finish or better this week to supplant Jordan Spieth as the No. 2 player in the world.
Landry stays hot, leads desert shootout at CareerBuilder
LA QUINTA, Calif. – Andrew Landry topped the crowded CareerBuilder Challenge leaderboard after another low-scoring day in the sunny Coachella Valley.
Landry shot a 7-under 65 on Thursday on PGA West's Jack Nicklaus Tournament Course to reach 16 under. He opened with a 63 on Thursday at La Quinta Country Club.
''Wind was down again,'' Landry said. ''It's like a dome out here.''
Jon Rahm, the first-round leader after a 62 at La Quinta, was a stroke back. He had two early bogeys in a 67 on the Nicklaus layout.
''It's tough to come back because I feel like I expected myself to go to the range and keep just flushing everything like I did yesterday,'' Rahm said. ''Everything was just a little bit off.''
Jason Kokrak was 14 under after a 67 at Nicklaus. Two-time major champion Zach Johnson was 13 under along with Michael Kim and Martin Piller. Johnson had a 64 at Nicklaus.
Landry, Rahm, Kokrak and Johnson will finish the rotation Saturday at PGA West's Stadium Course, also the site of the final round.
''You need to hit it a lot more accurate off the tee because being in the fairway is a lot more important,'' Rahm said about the Pete Dye-designed Stadium Course, a layout the former Arizona State player likened to the Dye-designed Karsten course on the school's campus. ''With the small greens, you have water in play. You need to be more precise. Clearly the hardest golf course.''
Landry pointed to the Saturday forecast.
''I think the wind's supposed to be up like 10 to 20 mph or something, so I know that golf course can get a little mean,'' Landry said. ''Especially, those last three or four holes.''
The 30-year-old former Arkansas player had five birdies in a six-hole stretch on the back nine. After winning his second Web.com Tour title last year, he had two top-10 finishes in October and November at the start the PGA Tour season.
''We're in a good spot right now,'' Landry said. ''I played two good rounds of golf, bogey-free both times, and it's just nice to be able to hit a lot of good quality shots and get rewarded when you're making good putts.''
Rahm had four birdies and the two bogeys on his first six holes. He short-sided himself in the left bunker on the par-3 12th for his first bogey of the week and three-putted the par-4 14th – pulling a 3-footer and loudly asking ''What?'' – to drop another stroke.
''A couple of those bad swings cost me,'' Rahm said.
The top-ranked player in the field at No. 3 in the world, Rahm made his first par of the day on the par-4 16th and followed with five more before birdieing the par-5 fourth. The 23-year-old Spaniard also birdied the par-5 seventh and par-3 eighth.
''I had close birdie putts over the last four holes and made two of them, so I think that kind of clicked,'' said Rahm, set to defend his title next week at Torrey Pines.
He has played the par 5s in 9 under with an eagle and seven birdies.
Johnson has taken a relaxed approach to the week, cutting his practice to two nine-hole rounds on the Stadium Course.
''I'm not saying that's why I'm playing well, but I took it really chill and the golf courses haven't changed,'' Johnson said. ''La Quinta's still really pure, right out in front of you, as is the Nicklaus.''
Playing partner Phil Mickelson followed his opening 70 at La Quinta with a 68 at Nicklaus to get to 6 under. The 47-year-old Hall of Famer is playing his first tournament of since late October.
''The scores obviously aren't what I want, but it's pretty close and I feel good about my game,'' Mickelson said. ''I feel like this is a great place to start the year and build a foundation for my game. It's easy to identify the strengths and weaknesses. My iron play has been poor relative to the standards that I have. My driving has been above average.''
Charlie Reiter, the Palm Desert High School senior playing on a sponsor exemption, had a 70 at Nicklaus to match Mickelson at 6 under. The Southern California recruit is playing his first PGA Tour event. He tied for 65th in the Australian Open in November in his first start in a professional tournament.