Golf Talk Live - Tiger Woods Transcript Segment 8

By Golf Channel DigitalDecember 18, 1996, 5:00 pm
PETER KESSLER (MALE )

WELCOME BACK TO GOLF TALK LIVE THIS IS A GREAT HONOR WE HAVE THE GOLF CHANNELS LIVE GOLF PRODUCER KEITH HERSLIN CALLING FROM HAWAII, HE'S PROBABLY WORKING ON HIS GAME , HOW ARE YOU KEITH?

PHONE CALLER KEITH

I'M GOOD PETER HOW ARE YOU?

PETER KESSLER

DOING GREAT THANKS FOR CALLING US.

PHONE CALLER KEITH

TIGER HOW ARE YA?

TIGER WOODS

I'M DOING WELL.

PHONE CALLER KEITH

I'M JUST CURIOUS A HAVE YOU MAPPED OUT YOUR SCHEDULE YET FOR 1997 AND HOW MANY TIMES WERE GOING TO GET TO SEE YOU ON THE GOLF CHANNEL , OTHER THAN DEFENDING YOUR CROWN AT DISNEY.

PETER KESSLER

ASK HIM WHAT YOU REALLY THINK KEITH.

PHONE CALLER KEITH

THAT'S WHAT I REALLY THINK.

PETER KESSLER

I KNOW I WAS KIDDING.

TIGER WOODS

I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO BE DOING. I'VE KIND OF MAPPED OUT THE FIRST QUARTER OF MY SEASON UP TO THE MASTERS JUST A BRIEF DEAL I HAVEN'T EXACTLY LOOKED IN DEPTH WHETHER OR NOT I'M GOING TO PLAY THIS OR THAT BUT I KNOW ONE THINGS FOR SURE I WON'T BE PLAYING 9 OUT OF 10 WEEKS LIKE I DID THIS FALL.

PETER KESSLER

BUT WILL YOU BE PLAYING WITH DAD AT PEBBLE BEACH IF ALL GOES WELL.?

TIGER WOODS

THAT IS ONE THING I'M LOOKING FORWARD TOO.

PETER KESSLER

WHAT KIND OF GAME DOES DAD HAVE?

TIGER WOODS

YOU KNOW POP, I'M SAYING POP WHATEVER YOU DO YOU KNOW EITHER PLAY EVERY DAY OR POST YOUR SCORES AND GET THAT THING UP, I'M NOT GOING TO REVEAL WHAT HIM HANDICAP IS.

PETER KESSLER

I'M GONNA LET YOU OFF THE HOOK, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU FROM OUR GENIUS PRODUCER LEE SEIGEL. LEE SAYS FOR SOMEONE WHO LOVES TO DROP BY THE NETWORK AND WATCH TAPE OF SOME OF THE OLD GREAT TOURNAMENTS OF THE PAST ARE YOU ADDITIONALLY A VERACIOUS READER AND STUDIER OF THE HISTORY OF THE GAME IN ANY WAY?

TIGER WOODS

YEAH I KNOW THE HISTORY OF THE GAME FROM BOTH SIDES.

PETER KESSLER

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?

TIGER WOODS

BOTH SIDES WHETHER IT'S THE ANCIENT SIDE WHICH IS PREDOMINATELY FROM I HATE TO SAY IT, THE CAUCASIAN SIDE AND ALSO FROM THE AFRICAN AMERICAN SIDE. I KNOW BOTH SIDES OF THAT AND BOTH STORIES AND I'VE LEARNED FROM THEM AND THAT TO ME IS VERY INTERESTING IF YOU CAN EVER UNDERSTAND BOTH PERSPECTIVES OF WHAT HAPPENED.

PETER KESSLER

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SECOND PERSPECTIVE YOU KNOW IN 1961 CHARLEY SIFFER REALLY WAS THE FELLOW RESPONSIBLE WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO PLAY THE PGA OUT IN CALIFORNIA AND FOR BREAKING THE CAUCASIAN ONLY CLAUSE WHICH IS RECENTLY AS 1961 WAS PART OF THE PGA TOUR. WHICH WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE USGA AND I SUPPOSE YOU KNOW THIS BUT IN 1895 WHEN THEY PLAYED THE FIRST US OPEN ACTUALLY IT WAS THE SECOND ONE 1896 I'M THINKING OF AT SHINACOCK WHEN JOHN SHIPPIN WHO HAS BLACK BLOOD AND AMERICAN INDIAN BLOOD WANTED TO PLAY IN THE EVENT AND THEY WENT TO THEODORE HAFIMEYER SOME OF THE ENGLISH PROFESSIONAL AND SAID WE WON'T PLAY WITH ANYBODY WHO HAS MIXED BLOOD OR COLOR THAT ISN'T WHITE AND THEY SAID WELL THE COMPETITION WILL GO ON ANYWAY BECAUSE MR. SHIPPIN IS GOING TO PLAY AND HE DID AND THAT WAS 100 YEARS AGO AMAZING TO THINK IT TOOK UNTIL 1961 FOR THE TOUR THE BEST PLAYERS TO ALLOW MEN WITH BLACK SKIN INTO THE MIDST. WHAT DOES NAMES LIKE, CHARLEY SIFFERD AND LEE ELDER MEAN TO YOU.

TIGER WOODS

WELL FOR ONE THING THAT PEOPLE FAIL TO REALIZE AND THINK THAT THE CIVIL RIGHTS AMENDMENT THAT HAPPENED IN THE 1960'S , THEY THINK IT CHANGED A 180, BUT IN GOLF IT DIDN'T HAPPEN THAT WAY EITHER IN 61 CHARLEY BROKE THE CAUCASIAN CLAUSE THE TOUR THEN MADE IT THEN SO IT WAS NO LONGER TOURNAMENTS THEY MADE IT INVITATIONAL SO YOU ONLY COULD BE INVITED AND SO THAT POLICY WENT ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND UNFORTUNATELY IT HAS TAKEN IT'S TOLL ON CHARLEY AND I TREAT CHARLEY LIKE HE'S MY GRANDFATHER I LOVE HIM DEARLY AND HE'S THE TYPE OF GUY THAT, THEY WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM LATELY WHERE HE CAN'T PLAY ON THE SENIOR TOUR BECAUSE OF HIS EXEMPT STATUS RAN OUT, HE' S NOT ON THE CAREER MONEY LIST THE REASON WHY HE'S NOT ON THERE IS BECAUSE HE WASN'T ALLOWED TO PLAY ENOUGH TOURNAMENTS, IT'S STUPID AND IT'S OBVIOUS AND I THINKS IT'S VERY IGNORANT ON THE TOURS PART BUT I THINK THAT OVER TIME PEOPLE WILL SEE WHAT THERE WRONGS ARE BUT CHARLEY, LEE AND TEDDY RHODES ALL AFRICAN AMERICAN PLAYERS AND I OWE THEM A BIG GRATITUDE OF BIG THANKS BECAUSE IF IT WASN'T FOR THEM PLAYERS LIKE MYSELF OR OTHER MINORITIES COULDN'T PLAY THIS GAME.

PETER KESSLER

BUT IT HASN'T CHANGED NEARLY ENOUGH AND I'M NOT SURE WHO HAD THE PERCEPTION THAT THERE WAS A 180 AT THAT TIME BECAUSE THERE WERE SO FEW MEN WITH BLACK SKIN PLAYING THE TOUR THAT YOU KNOW YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE YOUR HEAD IN THE GROUND TO THINK THAT THERE'S ANY SENSE OF A QUALITY AND HERE WE ARE IN ALMOST THE YEAR 2000 AND I'M NOT SURE WE'VE MADE GREAT STRIDES FORWARD .

TIGER WOODS

NO ACTUALLY WE HAVEN'T UNFORTUNATELY GOLF'S TAKEN ON A SUBTLE VERSION NOW WHERE IT'S IT WILL GET YOU A DIFFERENT WAY.

PETER KESSLER

TELL ME WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT.

TIGER WOODS

YOU KNOW CLUBS POLICIES, THERE RULES
IN ORDER TO JOIN A COUNTRY CLUB YOU CAN'T BE THIS OR THAT. OTHER POLICIES YOU CAN'T VOTE, THESE POLICIES WILL INEVITABLY ADD UP IF YOU GO ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY AND YOU START LOOKING AT THESE POLICIES AT VARIOUS CLUBS AND YOU'LL START TO SEE WHAT THEY'VE BEEN PRACTICING. I KNOW FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I'LL JUST BRIEFLY DAB INTO IT IN 1994, IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA I WAS KICKED OFF A GOLF CLUB BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF MY SKIN.

PETER KESSLER

NOW YOUR NOT REFERRING TO THE DRIVING RANGE INCIDENT ARE YOU?

TIGER WOODS

YES I AM.

PETER KESSLER

TELL PEOPLE WHAT HAPPEN A LITTLE BIT.

TIGER WOODS

A LITTLE BIT, JUST REAL BRIEFLY I WAS HITTING BALLS AND ARMY GUYS WERE HITTING BALLS AS WELL AND THEY WERE HITTING THE BALLS IN THE HOUSE AND I WAS ACTUALLY GOING OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND THIS GUY PHONED IN THE PRO AND SAID THIS LITTLE NIGER WAS HITTING BALLS AT MY HOUSE AND THE PRO COMES SCREAMING OUT THERE ACCUSING ME OF DOING THIS AND I SAID HEY I'M NOT THAT BAD OF A PLAYER I'M FIRING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION HOW AM I GOING TO HIT THE BALL STRAIGHT OVER HERE TO MY LEFT WHEN IT'S BEHIND ME IF YOUR THAT STUPID OPEN YOUR EYES BUD AND THAT INCIDENT WAS PRETTY TOUGH AND AS LATE AS 1994 AND PEOPLE THINK THAT IT HAS CHANGED BUT IT REALLY HASN'T.

PETER KESSLER

WHAT WOULD YOUR POLICY BE, WHAT IS YOUR POLICY IF FOR EXAMPLE YOUR INVITED TO PLAY GOLF AT A CLUB, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOUR EVENT NOW JUST A PLAYING A SOCIAL ROUND OF GOLF WHERE YOU KNOW THEY ADMITTED A BLACK MAN, A JEWISH MAN SOMEBODY BUT AS A TOKEN NOT A REAL ENTRANCE NO OPEN ARMS BUT A TOKEN INVITATION DO YOU GO PLAY?

TIGER WOODS

YOU KNOW YES I DO BECAUSE IT'S A START, YOU GOT TO START SOMEWHERE AND THAT IS A GROUND BREAKING POINT AND YOU GOT TO MOVE ON FROM THERE. I THINK THAT IF IT'S MYSELF PLAYING AS A MINORITY OR SOMEONE ELSE MAYBE WE CAN INFLUENCE THESE PEOPLES PERSPECTIVE ON LIFE AND HAVE THEM OPEN THERE EYES TO THE 90'S.

PETER KESSLER

SO PART OF YOUR OVER ALL PLAN AND PART OF THE THING YOUR DAD IS THINKING ABOUT REALLY IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE 15 AND 20 YEARS FROM NOW ON TOUR IN A SENSE, ISN'T IT.

TIGER WOODS

WELL IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY, CHANGE DOESN'T HAPPEN OVER NIGHT.

PETER KESSLER

THAT'S WHY I SAID 15

TIGER WOODS

IT MAY TAKE LONGER THAN THAT BUT AS LONG AS WE KEEP MAKING CHANGE IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION THEN CHANGE IS GOOD IF IT HAPPENS SLOWLY SO BE IT AS LONG AS IT'S GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TRY AND SPEED UP THE PROCESS, I'M GOING TO TRY AND SPEED UP THE PROCESS BUT WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH AND IT'S ALL BASED UPON KNOWLEDGE AND UNTIL PEOPLE UNDERSTAND OTHER PEOPLES CULTURES, PERSPECTIVES ON HOW THEY VIEW OTHER RACES THEN WERE GOING TO BE IN THE DARK AND THAT'S ABOUT IT, RIGHT THERE.

PETER KESSLER

IS IT IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO HAVE PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE AS YOUR MOM WOULD SAY A UNIVERSAL CHILD YOU'VE GOT THAI BLOOD, YOU'VE GOT EUROPEAN BLOOD, AND AMERICAN INDIAN BLOOD, AND AFRICAN BLOOD AND WHAT AM I FORGETTING?

TIGER WOODS

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT, I MEAN I'M THE UNITED NATIONS RIGHT HERE,

PETER KESSLER

NOW BEING THE UNITED NATIONS DO YOU THINK THAT YOUR IMPACT THERE FOR CAN SPREAD OUTSIDE OF OUR COUNTRY, OUTSIDE OF THE CITIES WHERE THE FOUNDATION WILL TRY TO MAKE AN IMPACT.

TIGER WOODS
YEAH, I HONESTLY BELIEVE SO WITH MY ASIAN BACK GROUND ESPECIALLY, WITH THE GREAT ASIAN BOOM IN GOLF THE FAR EAST IS GOING TO EXPLODE AND IF I CAN INFLUENCE THAT AND HAVE THAT SPREAD EVEN MORE THEN I'LL BE VERY HAPPY BECAUSE MY MOM IS THAI AND I HAVE A LOT OF FAMILY BACK HOME AND IF I CAN GET THEM GET MY FAMILY WELL OFF BECAUSE OF THIS AS WELL AND INFLUENCE THEM TO PLAY GOLF AND HAVE THEM SPREAD THAT AND HELP EDUCATE PEOPLE IN GENERAL ON THE GAME OF GOLF AND LIFE THEN I WILL BE VERY HAPPY.

PETER KESSLER

ON BEHALF OF EVERY BODY THAT'S WATCHING THANKS FOR SHARING THAT WITH US.

TIGER WOODS
THANK YOU!

PETER KESSLER

WERE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK AND WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.

(SHORT BREAK)

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Rahm (62) shoots career low round at CareerBuilder

By Will GrayJanuary 18, 2018, 10:33 pm

After a banner year in 2017, Jon Rahm found a way to add yet another accolade to his growing list of accomplishments during the opening round of the CareerBuilder Challenge.

Rahm got off to a fast start at La Quinta Country Club, playing his first seven holes in 6 under en route to a 10-under 62. The score marked his career low on the PGA Tour by two shots and gave him an early lead in an event that utilizes a three-course rotation.

La Quinta was the site of Adam Hadwin's 59 during last year's event, and Rahm knew full well that a quick start opened the door to a memorably low score.

"Any time you have that going for you, you get thoughts come in your head, 60, maybe 59," Rahm told reporters. "I knew that if I kept playing good I was going to have more birdie opportunities, and I tried not to get ahead of myself and I was able to do it."

Rahm birdied his first two holes before an eagle on the par-5 fifth hole sparked him to an outward 30. He added four more birdies on the inward half without dropping a shot.

The Spaniard is the highest-ranked player in the field this week, and while many players opted for a two-week stint in Hawaii he instead came home for some practice after opening the new year with a runner-up finish at the Sentry Tournament of Champions. That decision appears to have paid some early dividends as Rahm gets set to defend a PGA Tour title for the first time next week at Torrey Pines.

Low scores were plentiful on all three courses during the opening round, and Rahm remained pleased with his effort even though he fell short of matching Hadwin's sub-60 score from a year ago.

"That's golf. You're not going to make every single putt, you're not going to hit every shot perfect," he said. "Overall, you've got to look at the bigger picture. I birdied the last hole, had a couple of great sand saves coming in, shot 10 under par. There's not much more I can ask for."

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Fleetwood flawless en route to Abu Dhabi lead

By Will GrayJanuary 18, 2018, 2:06 pm

New year, same results for Tommy Fleetwood.

The reigning Race to Dubai champ picked up where he left off in the opening round of the Abu Dhabi HSBC Championship, carding a bogey-free 66 during which the Englishman found all 18 greens in regulation. At 6 under, he shares the lead with Japan's Hideto Tanihara and sits one shot clear of five other players.

"Very stress-free. Played really well from start to finish," Fleetwood said. "Felt like I did what you need to do around this golf course, which is drive it well, hit your irons solid. You can't really be too greedy a lot of the time, and then sort of my pace putting was really good. So basically just did what you need to do to get a good score around this golf course, and I got one."


Full-field scores from the Abu Dhabi HSBC Championship


Fleetwood shined in a marquee grouping that included world No. 1 Dustin Johnson and Rory McIlroy, as he birdied three holes on each nine. This is his first worldwide start since a T-3 finish at the Hero World Challenge.

It was at this event a year ago that Fleetwood sparked a career campaign, edging Johnson and Pablo Larrazabal for the win. He added another win at the French Open in the summer to go along with a pair of runner-up results and a T-4 finish at the U.S. Open, all of which helped him capture the European Tour's season-long title.

Fleetwood's sudden success in Abu Dhabi serves as a microcosm for his career resurgence. Prior to last year's victory, he had missed the cut in four of his five other trips to this event.

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Sergio starts season with 66 in Singapore

By Associated PressJanuary 18, 2018, 12:56 pm

SINGAPORE – Sergio Garcia opened his season with a 5-under 66 and a share of the clubhouse lead on Thursday in the first round of the weather-interrupted Singapore Open.

Playing his first tournament of the year, the Masters champion rebounded after making an early bogey to collect four birdies and an eagle at the Sentosa Golf Club.

He was later joined by American qualifier Kurt Kitayama in the clubhouse lead. Still on the course, Tirawat Kaewsiribandit was at 6 under through 16 holes when play was suspended for the day because of the threat of lightning.

Louis Oosthuizen, the 2010 Open champion, was at 5 under through 16 holes when he also had to stop his round because of the weather.

Of the players who did finish their opening rounds, only three were within two strokes of Garcia and Kitayama. One of them was Casey O'Toole, who aced the par-3 second with a 7-iron.



The 38-year-old Garcia dropped his only shot of the day on the par-4 15th, his sixth hole after teeing off on the back nine, when he missed the fairway and was unable to make par. But he made amends when he birdied the par-3 17th and then eagled the par-5 18th to go out in 33.

''I was 1 over after (the) seventh but it didn't feel like I was playing badly,'' said Garcia, who made birdies on each of the two par 5s and one of the par 3s on the second nine. ''But then I hit two greats in a row for holes 17 and 18. I got a birdie-eagle there, so that settled me a little bit and I could play solid in the back nine and it was a great round.''

Garcia made the shortlist for the Laureus Sports Awards in the Breakthrough of the Year category after claiming his first major at Augusta National last year and is hoping for more success this season.

He credits the Singapore Open as having played a part in toughening him up for his Masters win because he opted to start his 2017 campaign in the stifling humidity of Southeast Asia to prepare himself for the bigger tournaments ahead.

Although he finished tied for 11th in Singapore, Garcia won the Dubai Desert Classic the next week and was in peak form when he won the Masters two months later.

Kitayama only secured his place in the $1 million event on Monday by finishing at the top of the qualifying competition, but he made a strong start with birdies on three of his first five holes. The 25-year-old Thai was 6 under through 13 holes but spoiled his otherwise flawless round with a bogey on his last.

''I started with a birdie and I just let it roll from there. I had some good tee shots, which I think, is the biggest thing for this course,'' Kitayama said. ''I'm a little tired, but I'm hanging in there. Whenever I have time off, I'll try not to think too much about golf.''

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13-year-old beats DJ in closest-to-the-pin contest

By Ryan LavnerJanuary 18, 2018, 12:26 pm

Dustin Johnson didn’t just get beat by Tommy Fleetwood and Rory McIlroy on Day 1 of the Abu Dhabi HSBC Championship.

Even a 13-year-old got the best of the world No. 1.

Oscar Murphy teed off on the 177-yard 15th hole as part of the tournament’s Beat the Pro challenge during the opening round. The Northern Irishman, one of the HSBC’s Future Falcons, carved a 3-wood toward a back-right pin, about 25 feet away, closer than both Johnson and Fleetwood.

“An unbelievable shot,” Fleetwood said afterward, “and me and Rory both said, ‘We don’t have that in our locker.’”



Johnson still made par on the hole, but he mixed four birdies with four bogeys Thursday for an even-par 72 that left him six shots back of Fleetwood and Hideto Tanihara after the opening round.

Johnson, who tied for second here a year ago, is coming off a dominant performance at the Sentry Tournament of Champions, where he won by eight shots to strengthen his lead atop the world rankings.