Golf Talk Live - Tommy Bolt Transcript Segment 6
(1958 ALL-STAR GOLF)
ALL-STAR GOLF HOST:
ONCE AGAIN, WELCOME TO ALL-STAR GOLF, TELEVISION'S TOP SPORTS SHOW THAT BRINGS TOGETHER EACH WEEK 2 OF THE GREATEST PROFESSIONAL PLAYERS IN THE GAME IN STROKE PLAY COMPETITION.
I'M DICK DOWNAHEE (SPELLING-???) SPEAKING TODAY FROM THE DESOTO LAKES GOLF AND COUNTRY CLUB IN SARASOTA, FLORIDA. OUR MATCH PROMISES TO BE A CLASSIC.
OUR CHAMPION, BACK AFTER 6 WINS OF THIS SERIES OF ALL-STAR GOLF TO DEFEND HIS TITLE TODAY, THE GREAT PLAYER FROM BOCA RATON, WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS, SAM SNEAD.
SAM, HOW ARE YOU?
PLEASURE TO BE BACK.
ALL-STAR GOLF HOST:
WELL, IT'S SURE NICE TO HAVE YOU. HOW YOU FEEL?
WONDERFUL. LOOKS WE'RE GONNA HAVE A NICE DAY AND A NICE MATCH, I HOPE.
ALL-STAR GOLF HOST:
I THINK SO BECAUSE WE HAVE A GREAT OPPONENT FOR YOU TODAY, SAM. THE 1958 NATIONAL OPEN CHAMPION,
ACKNOWLEDGED TO BE AMONG THE GAME'S GREATEST SHOT-MAKERS, FROM PARADISE COUNTRY CLUB, CRYSTAL RIVER, FLORIDA, TOMMY BOLT.
TOM, HOW ARE YOU? NICE TO HAVE YOU ON ALL-STAR GOLF.
HOW ARE YOU, DICK? CERTAINLY NICE TO BE HERE, DICK. UH, SAM'S WON 6 MATCHES ALREADY. I'D LIKE TO DETHRONE HIM OF HIS TITLE TODAY, I LIKE TO TRY TO.
ALL-STAR GOLF HOST:
WELL, YOU'RE A GREAT SHOT-MAKER. AND WE KNOW IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT MATCH.
NOW I DON'T THINK YOU TOOK HIS TITLE THAT DAY BUT .
NO, I DIDN'T (CHUCKLE).
(LAUGH) GO WITH WHAT - TELL ME ABOUT IT THEN.
YEAH . WELL, I - IT WAS ONE - IT WAS A BAD DAY FOR ME, PETER. UM, I DIDN'T PLAY VERY WELL. AND I WASN'T IN A GOOD - VERY GOOD . VERY .
GOOD FRAME OF MIND. AND I DIDN'T UH, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE DAYS THAT UH EVERYBODY HAS, I GUESS. AND UH SNEAD, HE - HE WAXED ME GOOD.
BUT YOU DID PRETTY WELL AGAINST HIM, ACTUALLY WON MORE TIMES THAN NOT, HEAD TO HEAD WITH SAM .
IN TOURNAMENTS AND IN EXHIBITIONS, RIGHT?
YES ... YES. UM, I BEAT HIM TWICE IN THE PGA IN '54 AND '55. AND THAT WAS BACK WHEN UH, WHEN HE WAS - REALLY COULD PLAY.
UH, AND - AND HE WAS THE PGA'S 'DRAW IN CARD', YOU KNOW - YOU KNOW, YOU DRAW THE GALLERY WITH YOUR . WITH SNEAD. SNEAD DREW ALL THE PLAY - I MEAN, THE PEOPLE OUT THERE.
AND UM, IF YOU BEAT HIM, WELL UM .
THE PGA FROWNED UPON THAT. YOU - YOU - YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T GET MUCH GALLERY. SO THAT . THE MONEY WASN'T COMING IN LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN. SPECTATORS WEREN'T THERE.
AND THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT. AND UH, I THINK THEY MIGHT'VE LET ME UH . KNOW IT TOO A COUPLE OF TIMES.
UM, I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BEAT SAM IN - IN UH ST. PAUL THE FIRST UH, FIRST TIME, IN 39 HOLES WE PLAYED. AND I THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO HANG ME THERE, BOY, BEATING SAM SNEAD.
ARE YOU - CAN YOU IMAGINE BEATING SAM SNEAD, A NOBODY LIKE ME? AND UH .
I BEAT HIM THE NEXT YEAR IN DETROIT. I BEAT HIM 2 AND 1. HE .
CHICK HARBERT WAS . CHICK HARBERT WAS IN THE LOCKER ROOM TAKING - BEFORE THE MATCH, CHICK HARBERT WAS IN THE LOCKER ROOM TAKING RESERVATIONS.
AND UH ... I TOLD .
YEAH, AIRPLANE RESERVATIONS. I SAID, 'WELL, I'M NOT GOING HOME TODAY, CHICK.' UM, AND I - AS I WAS WALKING OUT THE FRONT DOOR,
I SAID, 'HEY SAM, CHICK'S MAKING RESERVATIONS IN THERE. UH, YOU CAN - YOU BETTER MAKE YOURS IF YOU WANT TO GET HOME TODAY.'
GUESS WHAT? HE WENT IN THERE AND MADE RESERVATIONS. AND I BEAT HIM 2 AND 1.
DIDN'T HE TELL YOU LATER IN THE DAY, 'I MADE ONE FOR YOU TOO'?
YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. HE TOLD ME LATER ON. AND - AND I - WHEN I WAS ON THE PUTTING GREEN, HE'D COME BY THERE, SAID, 'TOM, I MADE ONE FOR YOU TOO'. (LAUGH) BUT IT WAS A LITTLE LATE.
YOU'D ALREADY GOTTEN HIM BY THEN.
I'D ALREADY GOT HIM.
LET'S FIND OUT WHAT JIM IN ARIZONA WANTS TO ASK YOU. HELLO JIM.
JIM FROM ARIZONA
HI PETER. HI MR. BOLT. HOW ARE YOU DOING?
GOOD, HOW YOU DOING?
JIM FROM ARIZONA
I WAS CURIOUS MR. BOLT, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF SOME OF THE CHANGES IN GOLF EQUIPMENT SINCE YOU'VE PLAYED? AND SECONDLY, DO YOU BELIEVE SOME OF TODAY'S PLAYERS ARE - ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THE TOUR'S HISTORY?
SOME HAVE BEEN CRITICIZED THAT THEY AREN'T. AND THAT'S MY QUESTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM . WELL, THE TREMENDOUS CHANGE IN THE EQUIPMENT UM, IT - IT'S SO MUCH. UH, EVEN THE UM . THE UH .
THE - THE GOLF COURSES ARE BETTER MANICURED THAN THEY WERE BACK WHEN WE - WE PLAYED. AND THE UH . THE UH .
I - I NEVER REALLY PLAYED IN TOURNAMENTS WITH UH, WITH WOODEN SHAFTED CLUBS. BUT I PLAYED WITH THEM WHEN I WAS A KID. UH, I'VE ALWAYS PLAYED WITH STEEL OR GRAPHITE. AND GRAPHITE AND - AND .
GRAPHITE SHAFTS AND - AND UH, AND THE IMPROVEMENT ON THE BALLS AND - AND THINGS LIKE THAT, HAVE UH JUST MADE IT UH, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE HOW - WHAT A CHANGE IT IS.
HOW IS THE CHANGE, SAY FROM 1951, WHEN YOU WON YOUR FIRST PRO EVENT AT PINEHURST NUMBER 2, TO TODAY IN THE BALL AND THE GOLF CLUB?
JUST LIKE I SAID BEFORE, PETER, THE GRAPHITE SHAFT AND - IS SO LIGHT. AND THE - THE METAL HEADS ARE LIGHTER THAN UH PERSIMMON. UM .
YOU CAN CREATE MORE HEAD SPEED. YOU HIT THE BALL FURTHER. THE BALL'S ARE BETTER MADE. AND SO, THERE'S YOUR DIFFERENCE. YOU CAN HIT THE BALL 30, 40, MAYBE 50 YARDS FURTHER THAN YOU COULD BECAUSE YOU CREATE MORE HEAD SPEED WITH A LIGHTER CLUB.
A LOT OF THE GREAT PLAYERS HAVE SAID THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE THAT THE DISTANCE THE BALL TRAVELS BE REDUCED A LITTLE BIT. WOULD YOU BE IN FAVOR OF THAT?
OR DO YOU THINK YOU JUST .
I THINK THAT UH, YEAH, IT'S GETTING OUT OF HAND, PETER, REALLY. I THINK IT'S GOING TOO FAR, THE BALLS ARE, AND THE .
NOT FOR ME NOW, BUT I'M TALKING FOR THE PLAYERS THAT ARE PLAYING OUT THERE TODAY.
THE BALLS ARE TRAVELING TOO FAR. THE - TIGER WOODS DRIVING IN ON A 378 YARD HOLE. EVEN IF IT IS DOWNWIND, THAT'S A TREMENDOUS DRIVE, BELIEVE ME.
DO FEEL THAT THE PLAYERS, BASED ON THE QUESTION OUR VIEWER ASKED A FEW MOMENTS AGO, DO RESPECT THE TRADITIONS AND - AND DO CARE ABOUT THE VALUES OF THE GAME AND ITS HISTORY?
I . I THINK SOME OF THEM DO, PETER. BUT UH - UH . NOT ALL OF THEM. IT'S - IT'S THE SAME ALL OVER. UH, SOME OF THEM RESPECT THE GAME AND SOME DON'T. IT'S - IT'S - IT'S THE SAME EVERYWHERE.
WHEN WE COME BACK, WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT, AS WE SPEND A COUPLE MORE MINUTES TOGETHER, EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SHOOTING THESE DAYS AND HOW OFTEN YOU'RE PLAYING IN JUST A MOMENT.
The missing link: Advice from successful tour pros
Today’s topic is significant in that it underscores the direction golf is headed, a direction that has me a little concerned.
Now, more than ever, it has become the norm for PGA Tour players to put together a team to assist in all aspects of their career. These teams can typically include the player’s swing coach, mental coach, manager, workout specialist, dietician, physical therapist, short-game guru, doctor, accountant, nanny and wife. Though it often concerns me the player may be missing out when others are making decisions for them, that is not the topic.
I want to talk about what most players seem to be inexplicably leaving off their teams.
One of the things that separates great players from the rest of the pack – other than talent – is the great player’s ability to routinely stay comfortable and play with focus and clarity in all situations. Though innate to many, this skill is trainable and can be learned. Don’t get too excited, the details of such a plan are too long and more suited for a book than the short confines of this article.
So, if that aspect of the game is so important, where is the representative on the player’s team who has stood on the 18th tee with everything on the line? Where is the representative on the team who has experienced, over and over, what the player will be experiencing? In other words, where is the successful former tour player on the team?
You look to tennis and many players have such a person on their team. These teacher/mentors include the likes of Boris Becker, Ivan Lendl, Jimmy Connors and Brad Gilbert. Why is it not the norm in golf?
Sure, a few players have sought out the advice of Jack Nicklaus, but he’s not part of a team. The teaching ranks also include some former players like Butch Harmon and a few others. But how many teams include a player who has contended in a major, let alone won one or more?
I’m not here to argue the value and knowledge of all the other coaches who make up a player’s team. But how can the value of a successful tour professional be overlooked? If I’m going to ask someone what I should do in various situations on the course, I would prefer to include the experienced knowledge of players who have been there themselves.
This leads me to the second part of today’s message. Is there a need for the professional players to mix with professional teachers to deliver the best and most comprehensive teaching philosophy to average players? I feel there is.
Most lessons are concerned with changing the student’s swing. Often, this is done with little regard for how it feels to the student because the teacher believes the information is correct and more important than the “feels” of the student. “Stick with it until it’s comfortable” is often the message. This directive methodology was put on Twitter for public consumption a short time back:
Once we give 'em a lesson, we are faced with:— Trackman Maestro (@TrackmanMaestro) January 16, 2018
A. Will they do what we asked them to do
B. Can they do what we asked them to do
C. Will they put in the practice time
D. The fact that golf is a hard game
We face multiple barriers as golf instructors.
On the other hand, the professional player is an expert at making a score and understands the intangible side of the game. The intangible side says: “Mechanics cannot stand alone in making a good player.” The intangible side understands “people feel things differently”; ask Jim Furyk to swing like Dustin Johnson, or vice versa. This means something that looks good to us may not feel right to someone else.
The intangible side lets us know that mechanics and feels must walk together in order for the player to succeed. From Ben Hogan’s book:
“What I have learned I have learned by laborious trial and error, watching a good player do something that looked right to me, stumbling across something that felt right to me, experimenting with that something to see if it helped or hindered, adopting it if it helped, refining it sometimes, discarding it if it didn’t help, sometimes discarding it later if it proved undependable in competition, experimenting continually with new ideas and old ideas and all manner of variations until I arrived at a set of fundamentals that appeared to me to be right because they accomplished a very definite purpose, a set of fundamentals which proved to me they were right because they stood up and produced under all kinds of pressure.”
Hogan beautifully described the learning process that could develop the swings of great players like DJ, Furyk, Lee Trevino, Jordan Spieth, Nicklaus, etc.
Bob Toski is still teaching. Steve Elkington is helping to bring us the insight of Jackie Burke. Hal Sutton has a beautiful teaching facility outside of Houston. And so on. Just like mechanics and feels, it’s not either-or – the best message comes from both teachers and players.
Lately, it seems the scale has swung more to one side; let us not forget the value of insights brought to us by the players who have best mastered the game.
Woods, Rahm, Rickie, J-Day headline Torrey field
Tiger Woods is set to make his 2018 debut.
Woods is still part of the final field list for next week’s Farmers Insurance Open, the headliner of a tournament that includes defending champion Jon Rahm, Hideki Matsuyama, Justin Rose, Rickie Fowler, Phil Mickelson and Jason Day.
In all, 12 of the top 26 players in the world are teeing it up at Torrey Pines.
Though Woods has won eight times at Torrey Pines, he hasn’t broken 71 in his past seven rounds there and hasn’t played all four rounds since 2013, when he won. Last year he missed the cut after rounds of 76-72, then lasted just one round in Dubai before he withdrew with back spasms.
After a fourth back surgery, Woods didn’t return to competition until last month’s Hero World Challenge, where he tied for ninth.
Woods has committed to play both the Farmers Insurance Open and next month's Genesis Open at Riviera, which benefits his foundation.
Even on 'off' day, Rahm shoots 67 at CareerBuilder
Jon Rahm didn’t strike the ball as purely Friday as he did during his opening round at the CareerBuilder Challenge.
He still managed a 5-under 67 that put him just one shot off the lead heading into the weekend.
“I expected myself to go to the range (this morning) and keep flushing everything like I did yesterday,” said Rahm, who shot a career-low 62 at La Quinta on Thursday. “Everything was just a little bit off. It was just one of those days.”
After going bogey-free on Thursday, Rahm mixed four birdies and two bogeys over his opening six holes. He managed to settle down around the turn, then made two birdies on his final three holes to move within one shot of Andrew Landry (65).
Rahm has missed only five greens through two rounds and sits at 15-under 129.
The 23-year-old Spaniard won in Dubai to end the year and opened 2018 with a runner-up finish at the Sentry Tournament of Champions. He needs a top-6 finish or better this week to supplant Jordan Spieth as the No. 2 player in the world.
Landry stays hot, leads desert shootout at CareerBuilder
LA QUINTA, Calif. – Andrew Landry topped the crowded CareerBuilder Challenge leaderboard after another low-scoring day in the sunny Coachella Valley.
Landry shot a 7-under 65 on Thursday on PGA West's Jack Nicklaus Tournament Course to reach 16 under. He opened with a 63 on Thursday at La Quinta Country Club.
''Wind was down again,'' Landry said. ''It's like a dome out here.''
Jon Rahm, the first-round leader after a 62 at La Quinta, was a stroke back. He had two early bogeys in a 67 on the Nicklaus layout.
''It's tough to come back because I feel like I expected myself to go to the range and keep just flushing everything like I did yesterday,'' Rahm said. ''Everything was just a little bit off.''
Jason Kokrak was 14 under after a 67 at Nicklaus. Two-time major champion Zach Johnson was 13 under along with Michael Kim and Martin Piller. Johnson had a 64 at Nicklaus.
Landry, Rahm, Kokrak and Johnson will finish the rotation Saturday at PGA West's Stadium Course, also the site of the final round.
''You need to hit it a lot more accurate off the tee because being in the fairway is a lot more important,'' Rahm said about the Pete Dye-designed Stadium Course, a layout the former Arizona State player likened to the Dye-designed Karsten course on the school's campus. ''With the small greens, you have water in play. You need to be more precise. Clearly the hardest golf course.''
Landry pointed to the Saturday forecast.
''I think the wind's supposed to be up like 10 to 20 mph or something, so I know that golf course can get a little mean,'' Landry said. ''Especially, those last three or four holes.''
The 30-year-old former Arkansas player had five birdies in a six-hole stretch on the back nine. After winning his second Web.com Tour title last year, he had two top-10 finishes in October and November at the start the PGA Tour season.
''We're in a good spot right now,'' Landry said. ''I played two good rounds of golf, bogey-free both times, and it's just nice to be able to hit a lot of good quality shots and get rewarded when you're making good putts.''
Rahm had four birdies and the two bogeys on his first six holes. He short-sided himself in the left bunker on the par-3 12th for his first bogey of the week and three-putted the par-4 14th – pulling a 3-footer and loudly asking ''What?'' – to drop another stroke.
''A couple of those bad swings cost me,'' Rahm said.
The top-ranked player in the field at No. 3 in the world, Rahm made his first par of the day on the par-4 16th and followed with five more before birdieing the par-5 fourth. The 23-year-old Spaniard also birdied the par-5 seventh and par-3 eighth.
''I had close birdie putts over the last four holes and made two of them, so I think that kind of clicked,'' said Rahm, set to defend his title next week at Torrey Pines.
He has played the par 5s in 9 under with an eagle and seven birdies.
Johnson has taken a relaxed approach to the week, cutting his practice to two nine-hole rounds on the Stadium Course.
''I'm not saying that's why I'm playing well, but I took it really chill and the golf courses haven't changed,'' Johnson said. ''La Quinta's still really pure, right out in front of you, as is the Nicklaus.''
Playing partner Phil Mickelson followed his opening 70 at La Quinta with a 68 at Nicklaus to get to 6 under. The 47-year-old Hall of Famer is playing his first tournament of since late October.
''The scores obviously aren't what I want, but it's pretty close and I feel good about my game,'' Mickelson said. ''I feel like this is a great place to start the year and build a foundation for my game. It's easy to identify the strengths and weaknesses. My iron play has been poor relative to the standards that I have. My driving has been above average.''
Charlie Reiter, the Palm Desert High School senior playing on a sponsor exemption, had a 70 at Nicklaus to match Mickelson at 6 under. The Southern California recruit is playing his first PGA Tour event. He tied for 65th in the Australian Open in November in his first start in a professional tournament.