Tucson vs Scottsdale Which Arizona golf destination is best

By Golf Channel DigitalFebruary 22, 2011, 7:23 pm

Separated by 100 miles of desert highway, Scottsdale and Tucson share a common bond: they're both fantastic golf destinations. In this installment of Travel Punch Shots, TravelGolf.com senior writers Brandon Tucker and Mike Bailey debate which one is best.

By BRANDON TUCKER

There may not be 200 golf courses in Tucson like Phoenix-Scottsdale.

But no group plays 200 courses on their golf trip. They just need a good handful.

With that said, Tucson's A-list courses come pretty close to the Valley's must-plays. And the best part? It's a little more affordable. Unlike Scottsdale, there is no such thing as a $200-plus green fee in Tucson.

WGC Accenture Match Play host, the Ritz-Carlton Dove Mountain is the newest must-play between Scottsdale and Tucson.

The Jack Nicklaus signature, Ritz-Carlton brand and WGC affiliation all make the course sound like a pricey play. But Dove Mountain still peaks out at $179 on GolfNow.com. That's more than $100 cheaper than Scottsdale's PGA Tour host, the TPC Scottsdale Stadium Course. It's actually one of the more affordable PGA Tour stops, especially if you wait until May.

But Tucson has plenty more luxury golf resorts beyond the Ritz. Omni Tucson National boasts 36 holes, including the former Tucson PGA Tour stop, the parkland-style Catalina course.

Attached to Loews, Ventana Canyon Golf Club is the top multi-course facility in town with two Tom Fazio desert designs. It's also home to the Sonoran Desert's most famous hole, the boulder-to-boulder 100-yard shot on the par-3 third on the Mountain course. Along with Starr Pass and La Paloma, you can get luxury resort treatment with great desert golf.

Beyond the resort options, there are some worthy daily fees in Tucson, too. The University of Arizona home course, Arizona National Golf Club sits in some of the most fertile and scenic desert foothills landscape I've ever seen. Heritage Highlands (also at Dove Mountain) and the Tom Weiskopf design Golf Club at Vistoso are great plays for under $100 anytime of year.

Tucson even has a solid municipal golf system, anchored by Randolph North (a former LPGA host) and next door Dell Urich G.C. Both are very affordable (city resident or not), traditionally styled plays if you need a break from desert, target-style golf.

If you're choosing between Tucson and Scottsdale for summer golf, it's a no-brainer. Tucson is 1,000-1,500 feet higher than the Valley, often making summer temps 5-10 degrees cooler. Or as one Tucson golf resort exec told once told me, 'Our property's biggest summer market is Phoenix.'

By MIKE BAILEY

While I'll admit the Tucson golf scene has quietly taken its place among the best in the Southwest, it still has a way to go before arriving at Scottsdale's level.

There are more than 200 golf courses in the Phoenix/Scottsdale area, and there's hardly a dud in the bunch. There are more than 70 hotels and resorts, 600 restaurants and more than 50 nightclubs, bars and lounges. This, from a population that's just more than a third of Tucson's. At every level, Scottsdale very well might be the nation's travel golf capital, even more so than Myrtle Beach, S.C., another community that owes much of its economy to the ancient game.

You see, Scottsdale is more than just a collection of golf courses. This is where target golf in the desert started. Because water is such a precious commodity, the area went from the parkland-style golf courses it cultivated in the 1950-1970s to golf courses that used significantly less irrigated turf in the 1980s.

The result was a new style of golf that not only saves water, but created the dramatic contrast of fairways and greens we see today on great target golf courses such as the 36-holes Troon North, We-Ko-Pa Golf Club, The Boulders Resort or Grayhawk Golf Club. These courses showcase the natural beauty of the desert – the mountains, the saguaros and the wildlife – creating a look that can only be attained in the Sonoran Desert.

But at the same time, if you wanted a change of pace with a few more trees, you could play Camelback, McCormick Ranch or the Stadium Course at TPC Scottsdale. You won't exactly feel like you're in the Midwest, but there are parkland courses.

More than anything, the Phoenix/Scottsdale area is all about golf, on and off the course. It's home to the greatest spectator hole in golf, the fully enclosed 16th at TPC Scottsdale, where tens of thousands of the most knowledgeable golf fans on the PGA Tour boo and cheer every shot.

There are golf stores and shops on every corner of Scottsdale, it seems, and bars that cater specifically to the golf crowds, like O'Donoghue's Irish Pub & Restaurant. The weather outside of O'Donoghue's may be a little warmer than it is in Ireland, but the Guinness is just right.

Day: Woods feeling good, hitting it long

By Golf Channel DigitalNovember 22, 2017, 9:33 pm

Jason Day says Tiger Woods told him he feels better than he has in three years, which is good news for Woods a week ahead of his return to the PGA Tour at the Hero World Challenge.

Day, a fellow Nike endorser, was asked about Woods during his news conference at the Emirates Australian Open on Wednesday. "I did talk to him," Day said, per a report in the Sydney Morning Herald,"and he did say it's the best he's ever felt in three years'" Day said.

"He doesn't wake up with pain anymore, which is great. I said to him, 'Look, it's great to be one of the best players ever to live, but health is one thing that we all take for granted and if you can't live a happy, healthy life, then that's difficult.'"

The Hero World Challenge will be played Nov. 30-Dec. 3 in the Bahamas and broadcast on Golf Channel and NBC.

Day, who has had his own health issues, said he could empathize with Woods.

"I totally understand where he's coming from, because sometimes I wake up in the morning and it takes me 10 minutes to get out of bed, and for him to be in pain for three years is very frustrating."

Woods has not played since February after undergoing surgery following a recurrence of back problems.

"From what I see on Instagram and what he's been telling me, he says he's ready and I'm hoping that he is, because from what I hear, he's hitting it very long," Day said.

"And if he's hitting it long and straight, then that's going to be tough for us because it is Tiger Woods. He's always been a clutch putter and in amongst the best and it will be interesting to see.

"There's no pressure. I think it's a 17- or 18-man field, there's no cut, he's playing at a tournament where last year I think he had the most birdies at."

Move over Lydia, a new Ko is coming to LPGA

By Randall MellNovember 22, 2017, 5:11 pm

Another gifted young South Korean will be joining the LPGA ranks next year.

Jin Young Ko, the Korean LPGA Tour star, informed the American-based LPGA on Sunday night that she will be taking up membership next year. Ko earned the right by winning the LPGA’s KEB Hana Bank Championship as a nonmember in South Korea in October.

Ko, 22, no relation to Lydia Ko, first burst on to the international spotlight with her run into contention at the Ricoh Women’s British Open at Turnberry two years ago. She led there through 54 holes, with Inbee Park overtaking her in the final round to win.

With 10 KLPGA Tour titles, three in each of the last two seasons, Ko has risen to No. 19 in the Rolex Women’s World Rankings.

Ko told GolfChannel.com Sunday afternoon that she was struggling over the decision, with a Monday deadline looming.

“It’s a difficult decision to leave home,” Ko said after the final round of the CME Group Tour Championship in Naples, when she was still undecided. “The travelling far away, on my own, the loneliness, that’s what is difficult.”

Ko will be the favorite to win the LPGA’s Louise Suggs Rolex Rookie of the Year Award next year. South Koreans have won that award the last three years. Sung Hyun Park won it this year, In Gee Chun last year and Sei Young Kim in 2015. South Korean-born players have won the last four, with New Zealand’s Lydia Ko winning it in 2014. Ko was born in South Korea and moved to New Zealand when she was 6.

Ko released this statement through the LPGA on Wednesday: 

"It has been my dream since I was young to play on the LPGA Tour and I look forward to testing myself against the best players on a worldwide stage. I know it is going to be tough but making a first win as an LPGA member and winning the Rolex Rookie of the Year award would be two of the biggest goals I would like to achieve next year."

Piller pregnant, no timetable for LPGA return

By Randall MellNovember 22, 2017, 4:22 pm

Gerina Piller, the American Olympian golfer and three-time Solheim Cup veteran, is pregnant and will not be rejoining the LPGA when the 2018 season opens, the New York Times reported following the season-ending CME Group Tour Championship.

Piller, 32, who is married to PGA Tour pro Martin Piller, is due with the couple’s first child in May, Golf Channel’s Jerry Foltz reported.

Piller declined an interview request when GolfChannel.com sought comment going into the CME Group Tour Championship.

Piller told the New York Times she has no timetable for her return but that she isn’t done with competitive golf.

“I’m not just giving everything up,” Piller said.

As parity reigns, LPGA searching for a superstar

By Randall MellNovember 22, 2017, 4:00 pm

Apologies to the LPGA’s golden eras, but women’s golf has never been deeper.

With the game going global, with the unrelenting wave of Asian talent continuing to slam the tour’s shores, with Thailand and China promising to add to what South Korea is delivering, it’s more difficult than ever to win.

That’s a beautiful and perplexing thing for the women’s game.

That’s because it is more difficult than ever to dominate.

And that’s a magic word in golf.

There is no more powerful elixir in the sport.

Domination gets you on the cover of Sports Illustrated, on ESPN SportsCenter, maybe even on NBC Nightly News if the “D” in domination is dynamic enough.

The women’s best chance of moving their sport to another stratosphere is riding the back of a superstar.

Or maybe a pair of superstar rivals.


Photos: 2017 LPGA winners gallery


A constellation of stars may be great for the devoted regular supporters of the women’s game, but it will take a charismatic superstar to make casual fans care.

The LPGA needs a Serena Williams.

Or the reincarnation of Babe Zaharias.

For those of us who regularly follow the LPGA, this constellation of stars makes for compelling stories, a variety of scripting to feature.

The reality, however, is that it takes one colossal story told over and over again to burst out of a sports niche.

The late, great CBS sports director Frank Chirkinian knew what he had sitting in a TV production truck the first time he saw one of his cameras bring a certain young star into focus at the Masters.

It’s this player coming up over the brow of the hill at the 15th hole to play his second shot,” Chirkinian once told me over lunch at a golf course he owned in South Florida.  “He studies his shot, then flips his cigarette, hitches up his trousers and takes this mighty swipe and knocks the shot on the green. It was my first experience with Arnold Palmer, and I remember thinking, ‘Wow, who is this guy?’

“The thing about golf, more than any other sport, it’s always looking for a star. It’s the only sport where people will root against the underdog. They don’t want the stars to lose. They’re OK with some unknown rising up to be the story on Thursday or Friday, but they always want to see the stars win.”

And they go gaga when it’s one star so radiant that he or she dominates attention.

“It didn’t matter if Arnold was leading, or where he was, you had to show him,” Chirkinian said. “You never knew when he might do something spectacular.”

The LPGA is in a healthy place again, with a big upside globally, with so much emerging talent sharing the spotlight.

Take Sunday at the CME Group Tour Championship.

The back nine started with Lexi Thompson and Michelle Wie making the turn tied for the lead. There is no more powerful pairing to sell in the women’s game today, but there would be no duel. It would have been too far off script as the final chapter to this season.

Parity was the story this year.

Sunday in Naples started with 18 players within two shots of the lead.

Entering that back nine, almost a dozen players were in the mix, including Ariya Jutanugarn.

The day ended with Jutanugarn beating Thompson with a dramatic birdie-birdie finish after Thompson stunned viewers missing a 2-foot putt for par at the last.

The day encapsulated the expanding LPGA universe.

“I’ve never seen such crazy, brilliant golf from these ladies,” said Gary Gilchrist, who coaches Jutanugarn, Lydia Ko and Rolex world No. 1 Shanshan Feng. “It was unbelievable out there. It was just like birdie after birdie after birdie, and the scoreboard went up and down. And that’s why it’s so hard to be No. 1 on this tour. There’s not one person who can peak. It’s all of them at a phenomenal level of golf.”

If Thompson had made that last 2-footer and gone on to win the CME, she would have become the sixth different world No. 1 this year. Before this year, there had never been more than three different No. 1s in a single LPGA season.

Parity was the theme from the year’s start.

There were 15 different winners to open the season, something that hadn’t happened in 26 years. There were five different major championship winners.

This year’s Rolex Player of the Year Award was presented Sunday to So Yeon Ryu and Sung Hyun Park. It’s the first time the award has been shared since its inception in 1966.

Thompson won twice this year, with six second-place finishes, with three of those playoff losses, one of them in a major championship. She was close to putting together a spectacular year. She was close to dominating and maybe becoming the tour’s one true rock star.

Ultimately, Thompson showed us how hard that is to do now.

She’s in a constellation we’re all watching, to see if maybe one star breaks out, somebody able to take the game into living rooms it has never been, to a level of popularity it’s never been.

The game won’t get there with another golden era. It will get there with a golden player.