Golf Talk Live - Charles Howell III Transcript Segment 2

By Golf Channel NewsroomAugust 6, 2001, 4:00 pm
RICH LERNER
WELCOME BACK WITH CHARLES HOWELL THE THIRD. CHARLIE, WE TALKED ABOUT AUGUSTA NATIONAL, WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE HOLE?

CHARLES HOWELL III
NUMBER 13, BY FAR.

RICH LERNER
WHY?

CHARLES HOWELL III
ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN THERE. I MEAN SO MANY TOURNAMENTS HAVE BEEN DECIDED ON THAT HOLE AND YOU KNOW IT'S, IT'S NOT THE LAST HOLE OF THE TOURNAMENT BUT GRANTED IT'S AN EXCITING HOLE.

RICH LERNER
HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN YOU FIRST PLAYED AUGUSTA NATIONAL?

CHARLES HOWELL III
I WAS TEN YEARS OLD. FIRST TIME I PLAYED.

RICH LERNER
WHAT DID YOU SHOOT?

CHARLES HOWELL III
79

RICH LERNER
79

CHARLES HOWELL III
BUT THAT WASN'T FROM THE BACK TEES I WILL TELL YOU THAT BUT 79.

RICH LERNER
AND THEN, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT YOU PLAYED IT AT WHAT AGE?

CHARLES HOWELL III
I PLAYED IT QUITE A LOT BETWEEN THAT TIME WHEN I WAS 16 AND 17. I OWE THAT TO A LOT OF THE, THE MEMBERS THAT TOOK ME OUT THERE AND THE EMPLOYEES THAT TOOK ME ON AN EMPLOYEE DAY AFTER THE TOURNAMENT BUT YEAH

RICH LERNER
A PRETTY SPECIAL PLACE, ISN'T IT?

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.

RICH LERNER
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE LENGTHENING OF THE NATIONAL?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE PRETTY STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT THAT AND I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S AUGUSTA NATIONAL AND I, I HATE SEEING ANY CHANGES BEING MADE. I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T PARTICULARLY LIKE THE ROUGH COMING UP THERE.

I, AND, YOU KNOW IT'S, IT'S A PLACE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER AND YOU KNOW I UNDERSTAND YOU NEED TO LENGTHEN THE GOLF COURSE. I UNDERSTAND THAT TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING AND THE GOLF BALL'S GOING

FURTHER BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE'S A PART OF ME THAT WANTS TO SEE IT LEFT ALONE AND IF PEOPLE SHOOT 20 UNDER OR 30 UNDER OR WHATEVER, SO LET THEM SHOOT IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S UH, BUT IT'S THE SAME FOREVER.

RICH LERNER
LENGTH WILL PLAY INTO YOUR HANDS. YOU'RE ONE OF THE LONGEST HITTERS OUT THERE.

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT

RICH LERNER
IN, IN EFFECT ARE THEY SHORTENING THE FIELD? ARE THEY NOT MAKING IT SUCH THAT FEWER PLAYERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WIN

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT

RICH LERNER
IF THE GOLF COURSE IS STRETCHED OUT.

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL I THINK SO AND, I, YOU KNOW IF, IF THEY ARE TRYING TO TIGER PROOF THE GOLF COURSE OR IF PEOPLE SAY IT'S A, IT'S A TIGER PROOFING, IT'S MORE OF A LONG HITTER ADVANTAGE TYPE OF DEAL. IT'S, YOU KNOW IF, IF A BUNKER IS 207 YARDS TO CARRY AND YOU MOVE A TEE

BACK TO WHERE IT'S 290 YARDS TO CARRY, I CAN STILL KNOCK IT OVER IT WHERE, BUT YOU JUST KNOCKED 20 GUYS THAT CAN'T KNOCK IT OVER. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF TIMES NOW YOU LENGTHEN THE GOLF COURSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE.

RICH LERNER
WERE YOU LONG RIGHT AWAY? WERE YOU LONG AT 10 YEARS OLD? DID YOU JUST KNOW HOW TO GENERATE CLUBHEAD SPEED OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU DEVELOPED AND, AND LEARNED?

CHARLES HOWELL III
I, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING MORE I DEVELOPED AND LEARNED. WHEN I WAS 14 YEARS OLD MY DAD AND I SAT DOWN AND WE KIND OF DECIDED THAT IF I WAS GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE AT THIS GAME

I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO HIT IT FURTHER AND THAT'S WHEN I STARTED WORKING OUT. THAT'S WHEN MY WORKOUT REGIMENT STARTED AND YOU KNOW I WASN'T A BIG GUY. I'M STILL NOT NOW, BUT THAT, THAT'S WHEN IT DID START AND WORKED ON IT SINCE THEN.

RICH LERNER
YOU'RE WHAT 155 NOW?

CHARLES HOWELL III
155 NOW YES.

RICH LERNER
155 BUT YOU CAN BENCH PRESS HOW MUCH?

CHARLES HOWELL III
MY BENCH PRESS IS 225. ONE REV MAX.

RICH LERNER
THAT'S PRETTY STRONG.

CHARLES HOWELL III
(LAUGHS)

RICH LERNER
WELL LET'S GO BACK THEN TO THE EARLY DAYS WITH DAVID LEADBETTER. HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT DAVID'S DOORSTEP?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING STORY. I, UH, MY DAD IS, I MENTIONED EARLIER IS A PEDIATRIC SURGEON AND HE WAS IN ORLANDO FOR A BOARD MEETING AND SO WE WERE DOWN THERE AND HE DECIDED

I'D GO GET A GOLF LESSON FROM DAVID LEADBETTER, SO HE CALLED UP TO THE ACADEMY WANTING TO KNOW IF DAVID WOULD WORK WITH ME AND THEY SAID WELL DAVID'S NOT AVAILABLE, ONE OF HIS ASSISTANTS IS.

SO I, IT WAS SIMON HOMES, WHO'S NO LONGER TEACHING WITH DAVID BUT HE WORKED WITH ME AND STARTED ON FROM THERE.

RICH LERNER
AT, AT WHAT POINT DID YOU COME UNDER THE TUTELAGE OF DAVID?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS OLD. I STARTED TO, I MOVED ON, I WORKED WITH SIMON HOMES FOR A WHILE AND THEN WILL NEAL AND THEN STARTED WITH DAVE WHEN I WAS 12.

RICH LERNER
AND AT AGE 12 WHAT WAS THE PROGRAM?

CHARLES HOWELL III
YOU KNOW AT AGE 12 IT WAS A LOT OF, A LOT OF HARD WORK, A LOT OF PRACTICE, A LOT OF, YOU KNOW A LOT OF THE MORE, ENGRAINING THE DISCIPLINE IN ME. IT

WAS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF SHORT GAME PRACTICE. IT WAS MORE, YOU KNOW, DAVID WAS TRYING TO PUT HARD WORK INTO ME, NOT SO MUCH MECHANICS.

RICH LERNER
OKAY, SO HE, HE SAW YOU HOW OFTEN?

RICH LERNER
ONCE EVERY TWO MONTHS?

CHARLES HOWELL III
ABOUT ONCE A MONTH. ABOUT ONCE A MONTH WE DROVE DOWN, YEAH.

RICH LERNER
YOU WOULD DRIVE FROM AUGUSTA, GEORGIA

CHARLES HOWELL III
FROM AUGUSTA, RIGHT.

RICH LERNER
DOWN TO ORLANDO, FLORIDA.

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH WE MADE THIS TRIP A LOT.

RICH LERNER
OKAY AND YOU WOULD SPEND, WHAT, A FEW DAYS?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WE'D SPEND A WEEKEND OR I MIGHT SKIP SCHOOL ON A FRIDAY. NO MY TEACHERS KNOW USUALLY I GET GOLF LESSONS I WASN'T SICK. NO WE, WE'D SKIP SCHOOL OR EVEN GO TO SCHOOL ON FRIDAY AND COME DOWN FOR THE WEEKEND.

RICH LERNER
AT WHAT POINT DID YOU BEGIN TO WORK ON SWING THEORY AND TECHNIQUE?

CHARLES HOWELL III
UM, WHEN I WAS AROUND FOURTEEN. WHEN I HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT I WAS DOING, AN IDEA OF WHAT MY QUOTE UN QUOTE MODEL SWING WAS TO LOOK LIKE. WE STARTED WORKING ON THAT.

RICH LERNER
IS IT COMPLEX?

CHARLES HOWELL III
UH

RICH LERNER
NOT YOUR SWING IN PARTICULAR, BUT, BUT DAVID'S METHODOLOGY? ARE THERE CHECK POINTS ALONG THE WAY?

CHARLES HOWELL III
YOU KNOW THEY'RE CHECK POINTS. I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S COMPLEX, I'D SAY DAVID PROBABLY GETS A BAD WRAP IF PEOPLE SAY HE'S OVER TECHNICAL OR IF HE IS A, YOU KNOW, A TOUGH INSTRUCTOR

BUT, AND THAT ALSO CAN BE BECAUSE I KNOW HIM SO WELL. HE'S LIKE A SECOND FATHER TO ME SO TO SPEAK.

RICH LERNER
AND WHEN DID HE BEGIN TO HARNESS THE POWER THAT YOU NOW SHOW? AT WHAT AGE?

CHARLES HOWELL III
UM, WE STARTED WORKING ON THAT WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE. MY FRESHMAN AND SOPHOMORE YEARS. I THINK DAVID HAS SEEN ME TRY TO HIT ENOUGH WEDGES FROM 170 YARDS, ENOUGH 8 IRONS 180 YARDS (LAUGHS).

RICH LERNER
WERE, WERE THERE PSYCHOLOGISTS EARLY ON? SPORTS PSYCHOLOGISTS?

CHARLES HOWELL III
YOU KNOW HERE AND THERE. I'VE SEEN A COUPLE HERE AND THERE BUT NOTHING, NOTHING STEADY. I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ONE TO SAY AS SOON AS I SWING PERFECT, HIT EVERY SHOT PERFECT AND DON'T SHOOT UNDER PAR THEN I'LL GO SEE A SPORT'S PSYCHOLOGIST.

RICH LERNER
ALRIGHT. THE WORK OUT REGIMENT

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT

RICH LERNER
WHAT DOES IT CONSIST OF?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL IN THE EARLY DAYS WHEN I WAS SAY, 14, UNTIL I STARTED COLLEGE IT WAS LIGHT WEIGHTS WITH A LOT OF REPETITION. IT WAS A LOT OF CARDIO WORK ON THE EXERCISE BIKE, ON THE TREADMILL AND WHEN I ENTERED COLLEGE I STARTED LIFTING HEAVY. MY ROOMMATE, ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS,

STILL TODAY, BOYD SUMMERHADE (?) AND I LIVED TOGETHER AND WE, WE PUSHED EACH OTHER QUITE A LOT TO LIFT HEAVY.

RICH LERNER
BRUCE'S SON.

CHARLES HOWELL III
UH, GRANT'S SON OR ACTUALLY NO BRUCE IS HIS UNCLE SO THEN, YEAH.

RICH LERNER
BRUCE IS, OKAY

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT YES, BUT NO WE PUSHED EACH OTHER TO SEE WHO COULD LIFT THE MOST AND YOU KNOW WE PULLED SOME MUSCLES AND TORE SOME TENDONS.

RICH LERNER
DID THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS AT OKLAHOMA STATE THINK YOU'RE CRAZY? I MEAN THIS IS A, A YOU KNOW

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH WELL YEAH

RICH LERNER
A STRING BEAN GOLFER HERE. WHO'S HE TRYING TO KID?

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH YEAH, NO, THEY, THEY LOOKED AT US AND WERE MEAN (?). BOYD (?) WAS A LOT BIGGER THAN I WAS BUT NO THEY LOOKED AT ME AND LAUGHED AND NO R.W. MCCORDER'S, HE PLAYS IN THE NFL NOW,

HE, HE'D LOVE TO LOOK AT US AND LAUGH AT US AND YEAH

RICH LERNER
AND NOW A DAYS WHAT DOES THE WORKOUT REGIMEN CONSIST OF?

CHARLES HOWELL III
YOU KNOW NOW A DAYS WE TRAVEL A LOT MORE THAN WE DID IN COLLEGE AND SO NOW I'M BACK MORE TO LIGHT WEIGHTS WITH A LOT OF REPETITION. I TRY TO GO INTO THE GYM THREE TO, THREE TO FOUR DAYS A WEEK AND LIGHT WEIGHTS AND

STILL MAINTAIN THE CARDIO. I MEAN YOU KNOW I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS FOR GOLF. YOU CAN'T GET TIRED.

RICH LERNER
ALRIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT SWING AND HOW HE'S ABLE TO GENERATE SUCH PRODIGIOUS DISTANCES OFF THE TEE. DAVID LEADBETTER WILL ALSO VISIT WITH US. ROCKY HAMBRIC HIS AGENT'S GOING TO BE ALONG AS WELL.

AS WE HEAD TO BREAK CHECK OUT SOME OF THE NOTEWORTHY ACHIEVEMENTS IN THE CAREER OF CHARLES HOWELL THE THIRD. WE'LL BE BACK WITH MORE IN JUST A MOMENT.

(MUSIC)

(WRITTEN TEXT)
- 1996 AJGA NATIONAL PLAYER OF THE
YEAR.
- FINISHED -23 AT 2000 NCAA CHAMPIONSHIPS TO BREAK INDIVIDUAL RECORD HELD BY JOHN INMAN, JUSTIN LEONARD, JAMES MCLEAN AND PHIL MICKELSON.
- BROKE SERGIO GARCIA'S BUY.COM TOUR RECORD FOR THE BEST FINISH BY AN AMATEUR WITH 2ND PLACE FINISH AT 2000 GREENSBORO OPEN.

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