Hooks and Cuts from the Ryder Cup

By Rich LernerSeptember 19, 2004, 4:00 pm
04 Ryder CupBLOOMFIELD TOWNSHIP, Mich. -- Some thoughts following the 35th Ryder Cup Matches:
Hooks and Cuts from the Ryder Cup
  • The Europeans drink more wine, smoke more cigars, enjoy more laughs and win more Cups.
  • The U.S. lacks leadership in the player ranks. We have no Sergio, no Monty, no Clarke.
  • Hal Sutton will take plenty of heat, but players cant hide from the fact that theyve not gotten it done.
  • Its a good thing the internationals werent here or the U.S. would have left like the U.S. hoop team'with a bronze medal.
  • People point to Brookline and wonder why the U.S. cant have fun like they did there. Brookline was more fury than fun.
  • When you play a member guest you dont want to play with a guy you dont like. You pick a guy youre going to have a good time with and you think you can win with.
  • The future doesnt look all that bright for the U.S. Youd be hard pressed to name young professional players who offer hope and excitement. Charles Howell, Ben Crane, Zack Johnson, Jonathon Byrd, Ben Curtis? The Europeans already have Sergio, Luke Donald, Paul Casey, Ian Poulter, David Howell, Padraig Harrington and Lee Westwood, all relatively young, plus Graeme McDowell, Justin Rose, Fredrik Jacobsen, Nick Dougherty and Simon Dyson waiting in the wings.
  • Chris Rileys dad, Mike, told me that when Tiger sees Chris, Tiger thinks hes 14 years old again.
  • Phil Mickelson says theyre under constant scrutiny and ridicule. This isnt presidential politics; its a game of golf. Lighten up, or light up a cigar, or laugh, genuinely.
  • U.S. players seem guarded, or stone faced, or shy, or driven by public relations. The Europeans seem genuine, down to earth, reachable, fun loving and unpretentious. Read my column from last Monday when the Europeans landed in Michigan to begin their week.
  • American players are collecting world ranking points in Phoenix or Dallas or Houston while the Euros are collecting good times on the coast of Spain or the Swiss Alps or Ireland.
  • Forget The Ryder Cup. In general, Europeans work fewer hours, take longer lunches and more vacations. Is it possible we need to just relax a little, sip some espresso at a sidewalk caf and watch the world go by?
  • Some of the striped shirts didnt work for the Americans.
  • The PGA of America should consider changing the selection process to try to get hot players in the mix. Why not use the European model with the top five on the money list and top five from the world rankings plus two captains picks?
  • In 1977, with the matches terribly uncompetitive in favor of the U.S., Jack Nicklaus suggested opening up the event to continental Europe. Maybe we should open it up to all of North America and bring Mike Weir into the fold.
  • Heres a team wed like to see: John Daly because hes loose and doesnt care about appearances; Todd Hamilton because hes unafraid; Steve Flesch because he has a sense of humor; Scott Verplank because hes a butt kicker; Freddy Couples because hes relaxed and a gallery favorite; Joey Sindelar because hes real; Duffy Waldorf because hes a wine connoisseur; John Jacobs from the Champions Tour because he smokes good cigars; Hale Irwin because he cant stand to lose; Jack Nicklaus because hes Jack Nicklaus, and win or lose, hed do post round interviews; Craig Stadler because hes a pain in the neck to play against, though we have to admit the striped shirt wouldnt have been all that flattering; Corey Pavin because even if hes not the player he once was, hes still a bulldog; and finally, amateur Ryan Moore because he made it through the summer without losing a match play event.
  • In a year of personal upheaval, Monty cemented in concrete his peculiar legend. He also forged the bonds of a professional marriage thats proven unbreakable'the one he shares with the tightly knit community that is European golf. The Ryder Cup brings as much if not more pressure as a major. Why Monty shrivels in that arena is as big a mystery as the one surrounding Tigers record in The Ryder Cup. In any event, Montys a lock Hall of Fame inductee in my book.
  • How many majors should Sergio win? How about Harrington? Luke Donald has U.S. Open written all over him. Darren Clarke would look good in a green jacket.
  • The Europeans tell us theyre underdogs but know otherwise. The Americans will say theyre underdogs in 06, and mean it.
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    Honda leaders face daunting final day

    By Randall MellFebruary 25, 2018, 12:46 am

    PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. – The winner may need a cut man in his corner more than he needs a caddie on his bag in Sunday’s finish to the Honda Classic.

    Smelling salts might come in handy, too.

    “It just feels like you are getting punched in the face every single hole here,” Daniel Berger said of the test PGA National’s Champion Course offers. “Every single shot is so hard.”

    Final rounds have been especially rough and tumble since the Honda Classic moved to PGA National in 2007.

    That usually makes Sundays here as much about who can figuratively take a punch as who can throw one.

    Luke List will have his jaw tested after taking sole possession of the lead Saturday with a second consecutive round of 4-under-par 66, but he can take comfort in the fact that punishment is doled plentifully around here.

    “Just realizing that everyone is facing the same obstacles out there is huge,” List said. “You're not alone out there, if you make a bogey or a bad swing here or there.”

    At 7-under 203, List is one shot ahead of a pair of major championship winners, Justin Thomas (65) and Webb Simpson (66). He is two ahead of Tommy Fleetwood (67), the reigning European Tour Player of the Year, and Jamie Lovemark (68).

    List, 33, is seeking his first PGA Tour title in his 104th start. He will have to hold off some heavyweights, including Tiger Woods (69), who is seven shots back but feeling like he has a chance again. Woods closed with a 62 here six years ago when he finished second to Rory McIlroy.

    “You never know what can happen the last few holes here,” Woods said. “A lot of things can happen and have happened in the past.”


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    Crazy things have happened here.

    Three years ago, Padraig Harrington was five shots down with eight holes to play and won. He made two double bogeys in the final round but ended up beating Berger in a playoff.

    Berger, by the way, was nine shots back entering the final round.

    That was the year Ian Poulter took a share of lead into Sunday, hit five balls in the water and still finished just a shot out of the playoff.

    Last year, Rickie Fowler made four bogeys and a double bogey in the final round and still won by four shots.

    List will have a heavyweight playing alongside him in the final pairing, with 24-year-old Justin Thomas looking to claim his eighth PGA Tour title. Thomas was last season’s PGA Tour Player of the Year.

    List has never held a 54-hole lead in a PGA Tour event.

    “You guys build up certain players,” List said. “I know I'll be an underdog going against Justin Thomas and guys like that, which is fine.”

    There is some inspiration for List in what Ted Potter Jr. did two weeks at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am. Potter, largely unknown even though he already had a PGA Tour title to his credit, held off stars Dustin Johnson, Phil Mickelson and Jason Day in the final round to win. 

    Thomas earned the right to play alongside List in the final pairing Sunday with his 65, which equaled the low round of the tournament.

    Thomas makes his home in nearby Jupiter and knows the punishment the Champion Course can dish out.

    “It's a difficult course,” Thomas said. “If you let it get to you, it can be frustrating, but if you go into it understanding and realizing it's difficult, you just kind of embrace it and deal with it.”

    Thomas played the Bear Trap’s trio of daunting holes (Nos. 15-17) in 2 under on Saturday. He birdied the 15th and 17th holes.

    Fleetwood got in contention Saturday with a pair of eagles. He’s a four-time European Tour winner.

    “I would love to get my first win on the PGA Tour this week,” he said. “It’s just great to be out here. It's great to be playing on courses like this that are such a test of every part of your game.”

    Alex Noren, a nine-time European Tour winner, is also seeking his first PGA Tour title. He is three shots back. He lost in a playoff to Day at the Farmers Insurance Open last month.

    Though this is just Noren’s second start at the Honda Classic, he knows how wildly momentum can swing on the Champion Course. He shot 65 Saturday after shooting 75 on Friday.

    “I’m a few back, but anything can happen,” Noren said.

    That’s the theme around here.

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    Thomas: Winning hometown Honda would 'mean a lot'

    By Ryan LavnerFebruary 24, 2018, 11:53 pm

    PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. – Justin Thomas is trying to join Rickie Fowler as a winner of his hometown event.

    Thomas will play in the final group alongside Luke List on Sunday at the Honda Classic after matching the low round of the week with a 5-under 65. He is at 6-under 204, one shot back of List.

    The reigning PGA Tour Player of the Year is one of several residents of nearby Jupiter. After Fowler won last year, Thomas (who missed the cut) returned to the course to congratulate his neighbor on his fourth Tour title.

    “I hope I give him the opportunity or the choice to come back,” Thomas said. “But I’ve got a lot of golf in front of me before I worry about him coming here.”

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    More important to Thomas, however, is winning this event, which is played at PGA National, one of the most difficult non-major courses on Tour.

    “It would mean a lot,” he said. “It means a lot to win any golf tournament, but it would mean more because of how prestigious this golf tournament is and the list of winners that have won this event, how strong of a field it is, how difficult of a golf course.

    “A decent number of my wins have been on easier golf courses, so it would be cool to get it done at a place like this.”

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    Woods paired with hotshot rookie Burns at Honda

    By Ryan LavnerFebruary 24, 2018, 11:38 pm

    PALM BEACH GARDENS, Fla. – Rookie Sam Burns will be in the biggest spot of his career Sunday – playing alongside Tiger Woods.

    Burns, the reigning Nicklaus Award winner who turned pro after two standout years at LSU, will go off with Woods at 12:45 p.m. at the Honda Classic.

    Burns, 20, who earned his Web.com Tour card via Q-School, is playing this week on a sponsor exemption, his fourth of the season. He is 13th on the Web.com money list this year, after a tie for second two weeks ago in Colombia.

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    Burns and Woods are tied for 11th, at even-par 210.

    Sunday is an important round for Burns, who can earn a spot into the Valspar Championship with a top-10 finish here.

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    List leads Honda; Thomas one back

    By Golf Channel DigitalFebruary 24, 2018, 11:25 pm

    Luke List, one of a legion of PGA Tour players who live in Jupiter, just two exits up I-95 from PGA National, shot a 4-under 66 on Saturday to take a one-shot lead after three rounds of the Honda Classic. Here's how things stand going into the final round at PGA National:

    Leaderboard: Luke List (-7), Justin Thomas (-6), Webb Simpson (-6), Tommy Fleetwood (-5), Jamie Lovemark (-5), Alex Noren (-4) 

    What it means: Leader List has played well this season, with no finish lower than T-26 in six starts. Thomas, of course, is the reigning Player of the Year. The next best pedigree among the leaders belongs to Simpson, winner of the 2012 U.S. Open and three other PGA Tour titles.

    Round of the day: Thomas and Noren both shot 5-under 65s. Thomas made two of his six birdies in the Bear Trap (at the par 3s, Nos. holes 15 and17), while Noren played that stretch (15-17) in 1 over. Noren made his hay elsewhere, including an eagle at the last that canceled out his two bogeys.

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    Best of the rest: List, Simpson and Kelly Kraft all shot 66.

    Biggest disappointment: After an opening 76, Jimmy Walker probably thought he was back on track with a 68 that allowed him to make the cut. Alas, the improvement was temporary, as he ballooned back to a 74 on Saturday.

    Shot of the day: Tommy Fleetwood hit a fairway wood from 282 yards to within 8 feet of the cup on the 18th hole. He then made the putt for his second eagle of the day.

    Quote of the day: "The course played a fair bit easier with not as much wind." - Thomas

    Biggest storyline going into Sunday: List may be in the lead, but most eyes will be on Thomas, a five-time winner last year who has yet to lift a trophy in 2018. And of course, more than a few people will be keeping tabs on Tiger Woods. He'll begin the day seven shots back, trying to channel Tiger of 2012 - when he posted a 62 on Sunday at PGA National (which was good only for a runner-up finish to Rory McIlroy).