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Golf Talk Live - Butch Harmon Transcript Segment 1

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WHEN BUTCH HARMON WAS A YOUNG MAN, HE WAS A REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE. BUTCH FOUND OUT AS A MIDDLE AGED MELLOWING REBEL THAT IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO BE THE MAN YOU WERE MEANT TO BE AND NOW HE'S DEFINITELY THE

MAN. FIND OUT HOW MUCH FUN IT IS TO BE BUTCH HARMON, NOW, ON GOLF TALK LIVE.

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PETER KESSLER
THE FOLLOWING IN AN ENCORE PRESENTATION OF GOLF TALK LIVE.

IT'S NOT EASY BEING THE OLDEST SON, AND IT'S USUALLY NO JOYRIDE TO FOLLOW IN THE SUCCESSFUL PATH SET BY A FAMOUS FATHER, BUTCH HARMON UNDERSTANDS THESE THINGS WELL NOW

AS HE APPROACHES HIS 58TH BIRTHDAY. HE'S ALWAYS BEEN AROUND THE GAME, BUT IN HIS 50'S HE'S FOUND THAT HE NOW HAS A SPECIAL PLACE IN THE GAME, A PLACE HE OCCUPIES WITH PERSPECTIVE,

HUMOR, APPRECIATION AND A DOLLOP OF THE ARROGANCE THAT PARTICULARLY SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE HAVE AND USUALLY ATTEMPT TO HIDE. HIS DAD, CLAUDE, WON THE 1948 MASTERS BY FIVE SHOTS, WAS A FRIEND AND CONFIDENT OF BEN HOGAN

AND THE RAREST BREED IN GOLF. A GREAT PLAYER WHO WAS ALSO A GREAT TEACHER. IT WAS THIS ENORMOUS SUCCESS THAT BUTCH AND HIS THREE BROTHERS TRIED TO EMULATE. EACH OF THE FOUR EVENTUALLY FINDING GREAT

SUCCESS AS ONE OF THE GAME'S BEST TEACHERS. EACH TRAVELING THEIR OWN UNIQUE PATH TO GET THERE. BUTCH HAS BEEN TIGER'S FRIEND AND HIS TEACHER FOR FAR LONGER THAN THE TIME THAT TIGER HAS BEEN NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD.

GREG NORMAN, DARREN CLARKE, STEVE ELKINGTON, ADAM SCOTT, MARK CALCAVECCHIA AND DAVIS LOVE AND HUNDREDS OF DOUBLE DIGIT HANDICAPPERS WILL ATTEST TO THE

EYE AND TOUCH AND TUTELAGE OF BUTCH HARMON, AND HIS FRIENDS AND FAMILY WILL TELL YOU THAT BENEATH THE GRUFF EXTERIOR LIES A BIG HEART
FULL OF LOVE, FULL OF FUN AND HAPPY WITH THE FULLNESS OF HIS LIFE.

PETER KESSLER
WELCOME TO GOLF TALK LIVE, I'M PETER KESSLER. GREAT PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO A MAN, NOT ONLY AT THE TOP OF HIS PROFESSION BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, A MAN WHO'S NEVER BEEN HAPPIER WITH HIS LIFE. I INTRODUCE YOU TO BUTCH HARMON. GREAT TO SEE YOU.

BUTCH HARMON
GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, PETER.

PETER KESSLER
IT'S MY GREAT PLEASURE. CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING VOTED THE NUMBER ONE TEACHER IN THE WHOLE UNIVERSE.

BUTCH HARMON
(LAUGHS) WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S ALWAYS AN HONOR WHEN YOU WIN AN AWARD THAT'S VOTED ON BY YOUR PEERS BUT I THINK EVEN MORE

IMPORTANTLY THAN BEING NUMBER ONE, I THINK THAT ALL FOUR OF US HARMONS
IN THE TOP 50 TEACHERS WAS PRETTY SPECIAL FOR US AS A FAMILY.

PETER KESSLER
YOU ALWAYS SAID THAT AS GOOD AS TIGER WOODS PLAYS GOLF THAT HE CAN ALWAYS IMPROVE. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO IMPROVE AS A TEACHER?

BUTCH HARMON
WELL I THINK YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO GET BETTER, PETER. I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS EVERY TIME YOU GIVE A LESSON YOU LEARN SOMETHING. YOU SEE SOMEONE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE. YOU PUT IT

IN YOUR MEMORY BANK. MY DAD USED TO HAVE A GREAT SAYING. IT'S TRUE IN TEACHING, IT'S TRUE IN LIFE, IT'S WHAT YOU LEARN AFTER YOU THINK YOU KNOW IT ALL IS PROBABLY THE MOST

IMPORTANT THINGS YOU LEARN AND I THINK AS AN INSTRUCTOR AND A TEACHER IN ANYTHING, YOU HAVE TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE YOUR SKILLS AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS KEEP TEACHING.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT WOULD YOUR DAD'S TYPICAL RESPONSE HAVE BEEN TO THIS AWARD TO YOU?

BUTCH HARMON
BOY I DON'T KNOW IF WE'D WANT TO HEAR THAT ONE. (LAUGHS). HE'D SAY BOY YOU SURE HAVE FOOLED A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT IN HONESTY I THINK THAT YOU KNOW IF YOU BELIEVE IN, IN GOD

AND THE HEREAFTER I THINK DAD'S HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THE SUCCESS I'VE HAD AND THE SUCCESS MY BROTHERS HAVE HAD, AND WE KIND OF THINK THAT HE'S UP THERE PULLING THE STRINGS FOR US AND I THINK HE'D BE VERY PROUD.

I THINK THE ONE THING THAT, THAT TAKES AWAY FROM SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT, THAT NEITHER MY FATHER OR MY MOTHER ARE ALIVE TO SEE IT, BECAUSE , YOU KNOW AS PARENTS WE'RE VERY PROUD OF WHAT OUR CHILDREN DO AND I THINK THAT HE WOULD BE VERY PROUD.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT WOULD YOU MOST LIKE TO HEAR HIM SAY IF HE WERE WITH US TODAY AS OPPOSED TO WHAT MIGHT BE HIS TYPICAL SARCASTIC RESPONSE TO YOU?

BUTCH HARMON
WELL DAD WAS HARD ON US AS KIDS. I MEAN HIS WAY OF RAISING CHILDREN WAS TO PUSH YOU, TO BEAT YOU DOWN AND PUSH YOU TO MAKE YOU WANT TO DO BETTER AND REALLY IF DAD WAS HERE

TODAY I, I WOULD JUST LIKE HIM TO BE ABLE TO PUT HIS ARM AROUND ME AND SAY NICE GOING, BUTCH, YOU'VE DONE A HECK OF A JOB, AND I THINK HE WOULD SAY THAT.

PETER KESSLER
WHY DID THE TWO OF YOU, DO YOU THINK, FIND YOURSELF AT ODDS FOR SO MUCH OF HIS LIFE?

BUTCH HARMON
WELL I DON'T THINK IT WAS MY DAD, I THINK IT WAS ME. I WAS A VERY STUBBORN YOUNG MAN. I'M PROBABLY STILL VERY STUBBORN IF YOU ASK THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CLOSE TO ME.

YOU KNOW, I KIND OF MARCH TO MY OWN DRUM BEAT AND DAD'S HOUSE AND DAD'S RULES AND WHEN I WAS 18 AND 19 I JUST DIDN'T THINK I COULD LIVE BY THEM SO

I MOVED OUT. IN ALL HONESTY I DON'T THINK MY FATHER DID ANYTHING WRONG. I THINK IT WAS ME THAT WAS JUST OFF IN MY OWN LITTLE WORLD AND JUST WAS GOING TO STAY IN THAT OWN LITTLE WORLD AND IT SEEMED LIKE IF MY FATHER WOULD SAY SOMETHING WAS BLACK,

I WOULD SAY IT WAS WHITE. IF HE'D SAY IT WAS WHITE I'D SAY IT WAS BLACK, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS KIND OF THIS FRICTION THAT WENT ON AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS ANYTHING THAT HE DID, I THINK IT WAS MORE MYSELF.

PETER KESSLER
DID YOU AT SOME POINT BEFORE HE PASSED AWAY GROW OUT OF THAT TO THE POINT WHERE YOU COULD APPRECIATE WHAT HE HAD TRIED TO DO, AND KNOW THAT PERHAPS YOU HAD GOTTEN IT WRONG A LOT OF TIMES?

BUTCH HARMON
OH WITHOUT A DOUBT. NO I GOT IT WRONG MOST OF THE TIME. LET'S SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT. YES, I DID AND, AND WHEN DAD WAS DIEING IN THE HOSPITAL MY BROTHERS AND I WOULD TAKE TURNS

SPENDING TIME WITH HIM AT NIGHT AND DAD AND I HAD SOME GREAT TALKS ABOUT MY YOUTH AND HIS YOUTH. THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT THAT WHOLE THING WAS, UNBEKNOWNST TO ME, HE WAS

EXACTLY LIKE I WAS, AND I GUESS THAT'S WHY I BUGGED HIM SO MUCH THE WAY I WAS AS A KID. HE, HE ACTUALLY SAID, HE SAYS I'VE NEVER TOLD YOU THIS BEFORE BUT, BUT I WAS THE SAME WAY.

THE TROON OFFICER HAD TO COME GET ME ALL THE TIME BECAUSE I WAS OUT ON THE GOLF COURSE, DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL. KIND OF WAS MY OWN PERSON AND I REMEMBER LOOKING AT HIM AND GIVING HIM A BIG HUG AND SAY GOSH I
WISH YOU'D TOLD ME THIS 20 YEARS AGO.

PETER KESSLER
SO YOU FELT LIKE YOU'D COME FULL CIRCLE BEFORE HE DIED.

BUTCH HARMON
YEAH, I THINK IT WAS A, IT WAS A GREAT THING FOR MYSELF AND MY OTHER THREE BROTHERS TO HAVE TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH HIM AND JUST TALK ABOUT WHATEVER IT WAS YOU FELT YOU NEEDED TO TALK ABOUT AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT WE HAD THAT OPPORTUNITY.

PETER KESSLER
HOW DO YOU MEASURE PROFESSIONAL SUCCESS NOW, FOR YOURSELF?

BUTCH HARMON
OH GOSH, THAT'S A DIFFICULT QUESTION, I THINK ANYONE WHO'S SUCCESSFUL AT ANYTHING THEY DO, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE PROUD OF YOURSELF. YOU WORK VERY HARD YOUR WHOLE LIFE TO ACHIEVE WHATEVER IT IS YOU LOOK FOR. IT'S NICE

AS I SAID AT THE TOP OF THE SHOW TO HAVE YOUR PEERS VOTE FOR SOMETHING AND YOU WIN THAT AWARD. I MEAN THAT MEANS MORE TO YOU THAN, THAN REALLY THE PUBLIC DOING IT.

I THINK SUCCESS IS JUST YOU'RE AT PEACE WITH YOURSELF. YOU'RE CONTENT, YOU'RE HAPPY WITH YOUR LIFE. YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE A JOB THAT YOU LOVE TO DO WHICH WE HAVE. I MEAN WE'RE VERY

LUCKY. I MEAN I GET TO GO TO WORK IN THE GREATEST ENVIRONMENT IN THE WORLD, A GOLF COURSE. I GET TO BE WITH WONDERFUL PEOPLE, WHETHER IT'S TOUR PLAYERS OR PEOPLE COME TO MY SCHOOL, AND I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING
ELSE I'D RATHER BE DOING.

PETER KESSLER
FRANK SINATRA ONCE SAID, IT'S LONELY AT THE TOP. IS IT LONELY AT THE TOP?

BUTCH HARMON
WELL I'M NOT SURE I'M AT THE TOP, BUT NO IT'S NOT LONELY. I'M, I'M PROBABLY THE HAPPIEST I'VE EVER BEEN IN MY LIFE. I HAVE A WONDERFUL YOUNG LADY THAT I'M INVOLVED WITH WITH A GREAT LITTLE BOY. MY SON HAS DONE JUST A

SPECTACULAR JOB WORKING FOR ME. I'M SO PROUD OF HIM, AND MY DAUGHTER MICHAEL IS DOING REALLY WELL IN HOUSTON SO THINGS HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT KIND OF FATHER ARE YOU NOW, BUTCH?

BUTCH HARMON
WELL I HOPE I'M A LOT BETTER THAN I WAS BEFORE PETER. I DON'T THINK I WAS A VERY GOOD FATHER TO MY TWO CHILDREN AND MY DAUGHTER, MICHAEL AND MY SON, CLAUDE, ONLY BECAUSE OF

MY OWN FAULT. I WAS TRYING SO HARD TO GET AHEAD IN THE WORLD AND WORK, AND WORK MY WAY UP THE LADDER OF SUCCESS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT AND IN THE GOLF BUSINESS UNFORTUNATELY WE WORK ON HOLIDAYS

AND WE WORK ON WEEKENDS AND I NEVER MADE THE TIME FOR MY KIDS THAT I SHOULD HAVE AND I THINK I'M A VERY LUCKY PERSON BECAUSE I THINK I'M GETTING A MULLIGAN ON LIFE AND ON

TRYING TO RAISE A FAMILY BECAUSE COLE'S 6 YEARS OLD AND HE'S GOT MORE ENERGY THAN I COULD EVER HAVE AND HE HELPS KEEP ME YOUNG AND I THINK I'VE LEARNED FROM MY MISTAKES AND HOPEFULLY I'LL BE A MUCH BETTER DAD.

PETER KESSLER
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK AND WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH BUTCH.

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