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Golf Talk Live - Butch Harmon Transcript Segment 2

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PETER KESSLER
IT'S BEEN SAID THAT IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO BE THE MAN THAT YOU WERE MEANT TO BE. YOU BUY INTO THAT, DON'T YOU?

BUTCH HARMON
YEAH I DON'T THINK I GREW UP TILL I WAS ABOUT 45 OR 46 OR 47. AROUND THAT AREA. I GUESS I WAS A SLOW DEVELOPER IN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WRONG I WAS ABOUT THINGS, BUT I THINK ALL OF US, I MEAN, WE CAN, AND WE CAN

ALWAYS BE BETTER. WE CAN BE A BETTER PERSON, WE CAN BE A BETTER HUSBAND, WE CAN BE A BETTER FATHER, WE CAN BE A BETTER TEACHER. WE CAN BE BETTER AT EVERYTHING WE DO.

I THINK THE OLDER YOU GET, IF YOU LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES AND YOU GO ON AND TRY AND BUILD ON THAT YOU CAN DO BETTER. IT JUST TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

PETER KESSLER
WHEN, WHEN YOUNG PEOPLE LOOK UP TO YOU, AND THEY DO, AND SAY, YOU KNOW, HOW DO I MAKE MY DREAM COME TRUE, OR HOW DO I FIND OUT WHAT I SHOULD BE WHEN I GROW UP, WHAT DO YOU SAY BASED ON ALL THE EXPERIENCES YOU HAD?

BUTCH HARMON
WELL FIRST OF ALL NOTHING COMES EASY. IT TAKES HARD WORK AND IT TAKES TIME. I THINK THE TWO MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT I ASK FROM THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FROM ME ARE TO BE

HONEST AND TO BE LOYAL, AND I THINK IF YOU'RE AN HONEST PERSON AND YOU'RE LOYAL TO YOUR PROFESSION OR YOUR LOYAL TO WHERE YOU WORK OR WHO YOU WORK FOR AND YOU WORK HARD, I

THINK YOU'LL SUCCEED. NOW WHAT LEVEL YOU SUCCEED, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF LUCK. I MEAN I'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE IN MY LIFE. MY BROTHERS TEASE ME ALL THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN SPITE OF MYSELF,

BECAUSE I'VE MADE A LOT OF ERRORS AND I'VE ALWAYS KIND OF DONE THINGS MY WAY, BUT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A WORK-AHOLIC, I'VE ALWAYS WORKED REALLY HARD, I'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO IMPROVE MYSELF AT WHAT I DO AND IF YOU JUST KEEP WORKING HARD YOU'LL GET A

BREAK EVERY NOW AND THEN AND THE KEY IS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF YOUR BREAKS AND LET IT GO, LET IT ROLL.

PETER KESSLER
SEEMS LIKE EVERY SUCCESSFUL PERSON WILL SAY, I HAD THIS LUCKY BREAK, I HAD THIS ONE THING HAPPEN THAT SET ME ON MY WAY, WELL DAVE MARR WAS SOMEBODY WHO GAVE YOU A LUCKY BREAK, DIDN'T HE?

BUTCH HARMON
DAVE MARR WAS MY BIG BROTHER. DAVID WENT TO WORK FOR MY DAD WHEN HE WAS VERY YOUNG AND HE WAS LIKE THE BIG BROTHER I NEVER HAD BEING THE OLDER PERSON IN OUR FAMILY, AND ANYTIME I HAD A PROBLEM I WOULD

ALWAYS CALL DAVE AND TALK TO HIM ABOUT IT AND DAVE HAS KICKED MY TAIL SO MANY TIMES IN MY LIFE AND I DESERVED IT EVERY TIME AND I LOVED HIM LIKE A BROTHER. HE WAS, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH FOR DAVE MARR, I MEAN HE,

I THINK HE WAS THE GREATEST GOLF ANNOUNCER THERE IS. HE WAS A GREAT PLAYER, HE WAS A GREAT AMBASSADOR FOR GOLF, BUT FOR ME, HE WAS A GREAT FRIEND AND I DON'T THINK I EVER MADE

HARDLY ANY DECISION AT ALL WITHOUT ASKING DAVID ABOUT IT.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT WOULD HE SAY ABOUT YOUR LATEST AWARD

(UNINTELLIGIBLE) BE WITH US?

BUTCH HARMON
OH HE'D BE

DAVID WOULD BE VERY PROUD. HE WOULD GIVE ME A LOT OF GRIEF ABOUT IT, TELLING ME THAT I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING AND THAT I JUST KNOW HOW TO PICK STUDENTS AND THEN THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC. HE'D JUST HARASS ME

A LITTLE BECAUSE THAT WAS DAVID'S WAY, AND THEN PRIVATELY HE'D PUT YOUR ARM AROUND HIS, HIS ARM AROUND AND GIVE YOU A BIG HUG AND TELL YOU
HOW PROUD HE WAS OF YOU. DAVID MARR WAS A GREAT MAN.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE AND THE ART OF SUCCESSFUL COMMUNICATION?

BUTCH HARMON
WELL I THINK IN OUR BUSINESS, IN THE GOLF BUSINESS AND TEACHING, COMMUNICATION IS EVERYTHING. I MEAN YOU COULD HAVE ALL THE KNOWLEDGE IN THE WORLD, YOU COULD HAVE A GREAT EYE TO BE ABLE TO SEE PROBLEMS

AND TO SWING IT. IF YOU CAN'T COMMUNICATE THIS TO YOUR STUDENTS OR THEY DON'T GET ANYTHING OUT OF IT,

I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS MY BROTHERS AND I LEARNED THE MOST FROM OUR DAD IS HE WAS A GREAT COMMUNICATOR, AND I THINK IF YOU'RE A GREAT COMMUNICATOR YOU'RE BETTER AT WHATEVER IT IS YOU DO BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE SKILL, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY

TO COMMUNICATE, TO ARTICULATE, TO SAY THINGS IN GOLF THAT TEACHING, WE SAY WE LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SAY THE SAME THING SIX OR SEVEN DIFFERENT WAYS SO A STUDENT CAN UNDERSTAND IT EASIER, AND I THINK ANY YOUNG

TEACHER OUT THERE TODAY, I THINK IT REALLY HELPS THEM TO WORK ON THEIR COMMUNICATION SKILLS, AND IT'S EASY TO DO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING BEFORE THE LADIES LUNCHEON. GIVE A BETTER

SPEECH THAN YOU NORMALLY WOULD, REALLY GET INTO IT, PREPARE FOR IT. GET TO WHERE YOU LIKE DOING IT. GET COMFORTABLE IN FRONT OF PEOPLE, AND THEN, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOUR COMMUNICATION SKILLS GET BETTER AND YOU GET BETTER AT WHAT YOU DO.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT'S A DIFFERENCE FOR YOU IN COMMUNICATING WITH TIGER WOODS VERSUS A 36 HANDICAPPER WHO WOULD JUST LIKE TO PUT THE BALL IN PLAY?

BUTCH HARMON
UH REALLY NOT ANYTHING, EXCEPT FOR THE LEVEL THAT YOU'RE TALKING AT. TIGER WOODS, OBVIOUSLY THE MOST TALENTED GOLFER I'VE EVER SEEN CAN

DO ANYTHING YOU SAY. THE PRESSURES ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT. WHEN YOU'RE WITH A 36 HANDICAP YOU CAN EXPERIMENT A LITTLE BIT. IF THIS DOESN'T WORK YOU TRY SOMETHING ELSE, IF THIS DOESN'T WORK YOU TRY

SOMETHING ELSE WITH, WITH A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE, A PROFESSIONAL GOLFER, YOU'RE DEALING WITH THE WAY THEY MAKE A LIVING, SO YOU HAVE TO BE TOTALLY SURE WHEN YOU SAY THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO, THAT YOU'VE RESEARCHED IT, THAT YOU UNDERSTAND

WHY YOU'RE DOING IT AND YOU BETTER BE A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT IT'S THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE THIS IS HOW A GUY MAKES A LIVING. IN TIGER'S CASE,

HE CAN DO ANYTHING. I MEAN YOU COULD TELL HIM TO TURN HIS HANDS LIKE THIS AND HIT A FADE AND HE COULD AND TURN HIS HANDS WAY OVER HERE AND HIT A HOOK AND HE COULD. SO WITH TIGER YOU HAVE TO REALLY BE PRECISE, AND HE'S A GREAT STUDENT OF THE SWING.

HE UNDERSTANDS THE GOLF SWING SO YOU CAN REALLY GIVE HIM A LOT OF STUFF AND HE WANTS INFORMATION. WITH A 36 HANDICAP YOU JUST WANT TO PICK OUT ONE THING IN HIS SWING AND LET'S FIX THAT AND SOME OF THE OTHER

STUFF WILL FALL IN AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK THEN YOU TRY SOMETHING ELSE AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK YOU TRY SOMETHING ELSE. WITH A TOUR PLAYER YOU DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY.

PETER KESSLER
ARE YOU ABLE TO, INSIDE OF YOUR HEAD, SEPARATE YOUR SUCCESS FROM TIGER'S SUCCESS?

BUTCH HARMON
OH I THINK SO, I MEAN TIGER WOODS IS, IS THE STAR. THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANYBODY LIKE TIGER WOODS, I MEAN, I HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF MY AFFILIATION WITH TIGER WOODS. THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. I'D BE A FOOL TO

TELL YOU IT WAS ANY OTHER WAY, BUT TIGER WOODS IS UNBELIEVABLE, PETER. THERE'S NEVER BEEN A GOLFER LIKE THIS OR WHAT HE CAN DO. IT'S JUST PHENOMENAL. I FEEL SO PRIVILEGED

TO HAVE KNOWN TIGER SINCE 1993 AND HAVE WATCHED HIM NOT ONLY MATURE AS A GOLFER BUT WATCHED HIM MATURE AS A YOUNG MAN AND WATCH HIM MAKE A MISTAKE AND LEARN FROM THAT

MISTAKE AND GO ON AND THAT'S THE THING THAT I THINK I'M THE MOST PROUD
OF IS TO HAVE WATCHED HIM GROW AS A PERSON AS WELL AS A GOLFER.

PETER KESSLER
AS WE LEAVE FOR JUST A MOMENT WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT YOU GRACING ANOTHER COVER. IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE THE ONE THAT CAME OUT TODAY FROM GOLF DIGEST LETTING US KNOW THAT HE HAD BEEN VOTED THE NUMBER ONE TEACHER

BY A GROUP OF HIS PEERS. THAT WAS A PERFECT SHOT YOU HIT RIGHT THERE, RIGHT?

BUTCH HARMON
IT WAS A GOOD SHOT.

THAT'S A GOOD POSITION.

PETER KESSLER
OF COURSE.

BUTCH HARMON
I LIKE THAT.

PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHS)

BUTCH HARMON
WHAT DID I DO WRONG?

PETER KESSLER
ONE TAKE.

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