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Golf Talk Live - Butch Harmon Transcript Segment 3

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PETER KESSLER
GIVE ME A SENSE OF YOUR APPRECIATION AT BEING A PART OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN GOLF NOW AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL WITH PARTICULAR EMPHASIS ON BEING A PART OF THE CONSECUTIVE MAJOR SLAM THAT TIGER JUST COMPLETED WITH HIS WIN AT AUGUSTA IN APRIL.

BUTCH HARMON
AH IT WAS WONDERFUL PETER. I MEAN I, I CAN REMEMBER WHEN TIGER WAS AN AMATEUR AND HE WON THREE AMATEURS IN A ROW AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS FANTASTIC AND THEN HE WINS THE MASTERS IN '97 AND THEN THE PGA AT

MEDINA AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN FOUR MAJORS IN A ROW. IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE. I'M NOT SURE I EVER HONESTLY THOUGHT ANYBODY COULD WIN FOUR MAJORS IN A ROW. IS IT A GRAND SLAM? WELL YOU CAN CALL IT

WHATEVER YOU WANT. ALL I KNOW IS THAT NO ONE THAT'S EVER WALKED ON THIS PLANET EARTH HAS HELD FOUR MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIPS AT ONE TIME AND THIS YOUNG MAN DID IT, AND I THINK IT'S

JUST FANTASTIC. I ENJOYED EVERY MINUTE OF IT. IT WAS NERVE WRACKING FOR HIM, FOR ME, FOR ALL OF US, IT WAS JUST WONDERFUL.

PETER KESSLER
YOU KNOW I'VE NEVER HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SLAM BUT I'VE BEEN THINKING THAT THERE'S THREE SLAMS. THERE'S THE CAREER SLAM WHERE YOU WIN ALL FOUR OVER THE COURSE OF YOUR LIFETIME, AND HE'S DONE THAT. THERE'S THE CONSECUTIVE MAJOR SLAM WHERE YOU DO IT OVER A

COUPLE OF SEASONS. WELL HE'S JUST DONE THAT AND THEN THERE'S SORT OF THE BIG DADDY OF THEM ALL, WINNING THE GRAND SLAM WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE FEW MONTHS IN THE CALENDAR YEAR IN WHICH THEY TAKE PLACE.

BUTCH HARMON
WELL THAT'S TRUE. UNFORTUNATELY HE CAN'T DO THAT THIS YEAR BECAUSE HE WON THE FIRST ONE, DIDN'T WIN THE SECOND ONE. UH.... IN ALL HONESTY, TIGER WOODS MAY BE THE ONLY PLAYER

TODAY, WHO KNOWS WHOSE GOING TO COME ALONG IN THE FUTURE, THAT COULD HANDLE THE PRESSURE OF WINNING ALL FOUR IN ONE YEAR. PHYSICALLY I THINK THERE'S PEOPLE WHO COULD DO IT.

MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY I THINK TIGER WOODS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT COULD HANDLE THE PRESSURE. I MEAN THE PRESSURE WAS TREMENDOUS AT ST. ANDREWS TO WIN THE BRITISH OPEN TO GET THE CAREER SLAM. THE PRESSURE

WAS UNBELIEVABLE AT AUGUSTA TO HOLD ALL FOUR CHAMPIONSHIPS AT ONCE AND I THINK HE'S THE ONLY ATHLETE IN GOLF THAT CAN HANDLE THAT PRESSURE. NOW THAT'S JUST MY OPINION, BUT OF ALL THE GREAT PLAYERS THAT I KNOW,

HE HANDLES PRESSURE THAT'S PUT ON HIM BY THE MEDIA AND OUTSIDE AWAY FROM THE GOLF COURSE AS WELL AS ANYONE I'VE EVER SEEN AND I THINK HE IS THE ONE WHO COULD DO IT. NOW YOU

HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF BREAKS, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE TO GO RIGHT FOR YOU TO DO IT, BUT I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS THAT POSSIBILITY.

PETER KESSLER
WE FOUND OUT, PARTICULARLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS OF THE U.S. OPEN, AND, AND TOURNAMENTS SUBSEQUENT TO THAT THAT EVEN TIGER, IF HE'S NOT PLAYING TERRIFIC GOLF CAN NOT PHONE IT IN AND STILL WIN. WHAT DOES THAT

SAY ABOUT HIS WORK ETHIC AND HIS DESIRE ABOUT HOW MUCH HE HAS TO DO TO KEEP THE EDGE THAT HE WAS BORN WITH?

BUTCH HARMON
WELL FIRST OF ALL, LET'S REMEMBER, IT'S DIFFICULT TO WIN A GOLF TOURNAMENT. IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO WIN A MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIP. JUST BECAUSE YOU PLAY WELL DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO WIN. YOU HAVE TO GET BREAKS.

SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN. A BALL HAS TO BOUNCE YOUR WAY, A PUTT HAS TO GO IN THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO MISS. SOMEONE ELSE IS GOING TO MISS ONE THAT, THAT THEY DON'T THINK THEY, THEY, THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE AND THEN

ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY, THEY MESS UP OR SOMETHING, SO YOU GOT TO GET LUCKY, TOO, NOT JUST BE GOOD. HE GOT A LOT OF BREAKS IN THAT SLAM RUN. I MEAN IN THOSE FOUR MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIPS HE GOT A LOT OF BOUNCES HIS WAY. HE

MADE SOME PUTTS WHEN HE HAD TO MAKE THEM. NOW THAT'S ALL PART OF WINNING. THAT HAS TO HAPPEN TO WIN TOURNAMENTS, SO YOU KNOW IT'S, DO I SAY THAT TIGER'S BEEN UNLUCKY THIS YEAR? OF COURSE NOT. TIGER WOODS

HAS WON FOUR TIMES. HIS STROKE AVERAGE IS 68 AND SOME CHANGE. VERY SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR. HE'S ALREADY WON ONE MAJOR. HE'S STILL HAVING A GREAT YEAR. IF YOU ASK TIGER WOODS IS HE HAVING A GOOD YEAR, NO, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WIN EVERY TOURNAMENT HE

PLAYED IN BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY HE FEELS. IS HE IN A SLUMP LIKE SOME REPORTERS SAID? WELL THAT'S RIDICULOUS TO EVEN SAY THAT. I MEAN

WHAT'S HIS WORST FINISH THIS YEAR WAS LAST WEEK 20TH. WELL THAT'S A CAREER FOR SOME PEOPLE WHAT HE'S DONE THIS YEAR. HIS EXPECTATIONS ARE HIGHER THAN MINE. HIS EXPECTATIONS ARE HIGHER THAN YOURS. THEY'RE HIGHER

THAN OUR VIEWERS OUT THERE. HE WANTS TO WIN EVERY TIME HE PLAYS. HE WANTS TO PLAY HIS BEST EVERY TIME HE PLAYS AND HE'S REALISTIC ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT CAN'T HAPPEN BUT HE STILL DOESN'T LIKE IT, AND HE'S STILL UPSET WHEN HE DOESN'T.

PETER KESSLER
GIVE US A LITTLE INSIGHT INTO THE RELATIONSHIP IN THE SENSE THAT, THE TWO OF YOU WERE GOING TO ATTEMPT TO TAKE HIM FROM WHAT I GUESS YOU WOULD CHARACTERIZE THIS AS OKAY PLAY OF RIGHT NOW TO BRILLIANT, AT,

NEXT THURSDAY AT THE START OF THE OPEN CHAMPIONSHIP AT ROYAL LITHEM. HOW DO YOU GO FROM HERE TO THERE?

BUTCH HARMON
WELL FIRST OF ALL, TIGER, I THOUGHT STARTED TO PLAY REALLY WELL LAST WEEK. HE STARTED TO FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH HIS GOLF SWING AGAIN. HE STARTED TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE THINGS HE'S BEEN WORKING ON AND HE GOT HIS,

WHAT HE CALLS HIS DISTANCE BACK, MEANING HE COULD HIT THE BALL THEIR PROPER DISTANCES. HIS LENGTH OFF THE TEE CAME BACK WHERE HE'D FELT HE HAD LOST A LITTLE OF THAT AND YOU JUST GO THROUGH PERIODS IN GOLF

WHERE YOU SWING JUST GETS A LITTLE OFF AND YOUR TIMING GETS A LITTLE OFF EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE WORKING ON THE SAME THINGS. HE ACTUALLY FELT PRETTY GOOD ABOUT LAST WEEK. HE DIDN'T REALLY PUTT AS WELL AS HE THOUGHT HE COULD HAVE BUT HE, HE

FELT PRETTY GOOD ABOUT IT. HE'S IN IRELAND NOW JUST RELAXING WITH MARK O'MEARA AND SOME FRIENDS. GOING TO DO A LOT OF PRACTICE. I'M GOING OVER SATURDAY NIGHT. WE'LL SPEND SOME TIME BEFOREHAND, BUT I THINK YOU'LL SEE TIGER CONTEND AT LITHEM AND

ST. ANNE'S. I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A REALLY KIND OF UNUSUAL GOLF COURSE. IF YOU REMEMBER THE COURSE FROM WHEN TOM LEHMAN WON THERE OR WHEN SEVE WON THERE. YOU CAN REALLY GET SOME FUNNY BOUNCES OUT THERE ON THESE

FAIRWAYS. SO ONCE AGAIN, LUCK HAS TO COME INTO IT, BUT I THINK YOU'LL SEE TIGER HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN THE BRITISH OPEN. WHETHER HE DOES OR NOT, REMAINS TO BE SEEN.

PETER KESSLER
WE TALKED ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS TO JUST WIN A TOURNAMENT LET ALONE A MAJOR AND I THINK THE LATE CHARLES PRICE SAID, WELL A REGULAR TOURNAMENT IS YOU'RE ON A TIGHTROPE 10 FEET ABOVE THE GROUND AND THERE'S

A NET IF YOU FALL AND AT A MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIP YOU'RE ON A WIRE 60 FEET ABOVE THE GROUND BUT IF YOU FALL THERE'S NO NET. THERE'S 156 PLAYERS IN A FIELD. THAT'S NOT TWO TEAMS, THAT'S 156 TEAMS. DO YOU THINK PEOPLE

APPRECIATE THAT NOT EVERY ONE OF THOSE 155 OTHER TEAMS ARE GOING TO LAY DOWN FOR YOU ON A PARTICULAR WEEK?

BUTCH HARMON
WELL IN ALL HONESTY THOUGH, IF YOU LISTEN TO WHAT JACK NICKLAUS SAID AND, AND BEN HOGAN SAID, HALF THE FIELD PRETTY MUCH ELIMINATES THEMSELF IN A MAJOR. THE OTHER 25 PERCENT, THEIR NERVES KIND OF ELIMINATE THEMSELVES, SO YOU REALLY

ONLY GOT TO TRY AND CONTEND WITH 25 PERCENT OF THAT 156 PLAYERS. NOW THAT'S NOT TO PUT DOWN THE OTHERS, IT'S JUST THE MAJORS ARE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAN A REGULAR TOURNAMENT. WE SAW THAT WITH RETIEF GOOSEN AT THE U.S. OPEN.

I MEAN HE'S GOT 12 FOOT PUTT. TWO PUTTS TO WIN. HE COULD DO IT IN HIS SLEEP, EYES CLOSED STANDING ON HIS HEAD, BUT BECAUSE IT WAS TO WIN THE U.S. OPEN, ALL OF A SUDDEN HE THREE

PUTTED, SO PRESSURE IS A HUGE THING. YOU HAVE TO HANDLE THE PRESSURE. WE'VE SEEN PHIL MICKELSON PLAY VERY WELL AND NOT QUITE HANDLE THE PRESSURE. IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN

PAYNE STEWART WON AT PINEHURST HE HAD A PUTT ON 17 THAT HE NEEDED TO MAKE THAT HE JUST DIDN'T MAKE. DOESN'T MEAN THAT PHIL MICKELSON CHOKED, BECAUSE HE DIDN'T, IT'S JUST PRESSURE. THINGS HAPPEN TO YOU IN

MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIPS, IN YOUR NERVOUS SYSTEM AND YOUR ADRENALIN RUSHES THAT DON'T HAPPEN IN THE TUCSON OPEN OR THE BOB HOPE DESERT CLASSIC. IT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL, A MAJOR, AND IT TAKES A UNIQUE PERSON
TO WIN THEM.

PETER KESSLER
WHEN WE COME BACK LETS TAKE A LOOK AT A SERIES OF SHOTS FROM THE FOUR MAJORS THAT HE WON IN A ROW. HIS SLAM, AND WE'LL DO THAT IN JUST A MOMENT. AS WE LEAVE WE'VE GOT A

SPECIAL GRAPHIC OF TOURNAMENTS THAT YOU HAVE WON THAT TIGER NEVER EVEN SNIFFED. SO LET'S CHECK IT OUT.

(MUSIC)

PETER KESSLER
HEY THIS IS A SERIOUS LIST, BUTCH, ALRIGHT?

BUTCH HARMON
OKAY

PETER KESSLER
ALRIGHT, HE DIDN'T WIN THE METROPOLITAN JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP.

BUTCH HARMON
NO

PETER KESSLER
ALASKA STATE AM.

BUTCH HARMON
HE COULD NEVER WIN THE ALASKA STATE AM BECAUSE HE CAN'T GET HIS AMATEUR STANDING BACK NOW.

PETER KESSLER
AND THERE'S, AND THE B.C. OPEN.

BUTCH HARMON
B.C. OPEN. WELL HE HAS PLAYED IN IT, BUT HE

PETER KESSLER
I MEAN YOU LED WIRE TO WIRE... AND OF COURSE HERE'S SOMETHING HE COULD NEVER DO. YOU WON FOURTH PLACE AWARD OUT OF FOUR PLACES IN EVERY HARMON CUP EVER HELD.

CONGRATULATIONS

BUTCH HARMON
WELL, A LITTLE BETTER THAN THAT THOUGH.

PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHS)

BUTCH HARMON
HAVE NEVER WON THE HARMON CUP THOUGH.

PETER KESSLER
WE'LL BE BACK.

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