Golf Talk Live - Byron Nelson Transcript Segment 4

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PETER KESSLER
WE'VE GOT A SERIES OF SHOTS OF TIGER'S AND IT STARTS ON THE TEE WITH SOME DRIVES AND HIS PRE-SHOT ROUTINE. WE'LL TAKE YOU ALL THE WAY THROUGH

TO PUTTING AND IF YOU WOULD SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT YOU SEE AND WHAT YOU THINK OF HIS MOOD AND OF HIM THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL STUFF. LET'S GO AHEAD

BYRON NELSON
ALRIGHT

PETER KESSLER
AND TAKE A LOOK.

BYRON NELSON
I CAN SAY IT RIGHT AWAY THAT THERE'S NOBODY THAT I'VE EVER SEEN PLAY GOLF THAT HAS THE DETERMINATION THIS YOUNG MAN HAS TO GET BETTER.

PETER KESSLER
HOW FOCUSED IS HE IN YOUR VIEW?

BYRON NELSON
WELL THE WAY HE'S STANDING THERE HE, HE LOOKS LIKE HE'S GOING TO DO IT. THERE'S JUST SOMETHING ABOUT HIS WHOLE MANNERISMS.

(SOUND OF GOLF CLUB STRIKING BALL)

BYRON NELSON
NOW THAT CLUB, THAT CLUB WAS DEAD ON LINE GOING BACK. YOU WATCH THE CLUB ON HIS BACK SWING. IT DID, SEE IT COMES STRAIGHT UP OVER HIS SHOULDERS, JUST POINTING RIGHT DOWN THE FAIRWAY WHERE'S HE'S GOING.

BEFORE HE CHANGED, BEFORE HE WORKED ON HIS GAME, WHY THAT CLUB WOULD LAYOFF SOME AT THE TOP AND THEN IT'D COME AROUND A LOT OF TIMES AND HE'D HIT SOME BAD HOOKS AND THEN HE'D BLOCK THE NEXT NINE AND HE'D HIT IT TO THE RIGHT. HE'D GO LEFT

AND RIGHT. A PLAYER, WHEN HE'S GOING LEFT AND RIGHT SCARES HIM. IF HE'S GOING ALL LEFT OR ALL RIGHT, HE CAN CORRECT THAT BUT WHEN YOU GOT IN HIS WAY AND SEE NOW WHAT, SEE HOW COMFORTABLE HE LOOKS DOWN THERE.

PETER KESSLER
THAT'S A 2 IRON. THAT WAS THE LAST HOLE OF THE REGULATION OF THE PGA

BYRON NELSON
RIGHT

PETER KESSLER
IN 2000.

BYRON NELSON
AND HE IS A, YOU KNOW, HE, HE DOESN'T PARTICULARLY LOOK IT, BUT THIS BOY IS STRONG. SEE THE DIVOTS HE TAKES. HE CAN TAKE DIVOTS AND CATCH THAT BALL AND HIT IT ON THE GREEN WHEN NOBODY ELSE OUT THERE CAN REALLY DO IT, THAT
FROM THAT LIE.

PETER KESSLER
HOW ABOUT THE SHORTNESS OF THAT SWING GIVEN THE LENGTH OF THE SHOT.

BYRON NELSON
WELL IT, THAT WAS ACTUALLY, SEE, ORIGINALLY WHEN HE CAME OUT THERE AND WON, THAT'S ONE OF THE BEST WAYS HE'S IMPROVED HIS GAME. HE'S SHORTENED HIS BACK SWING SO HE COULD, HE CAN GO MORE THROUGH. YOU TAKE A LONG BACK SWING ON A SHORT

SHOT, THEN YOU'VE GOT TO STOP THE SWING OR YOU KNOW, AND YOU HIT IT TOO FAR. AND OF COURSE HE HAS THE BEST FEEL AROUND THE GREEN, THE TOUCH HE HAS. HE GOES, HE GOES BACK, NOW THAT'S SHORT AND THROUGH. A GOLF SHORT

SHOT IS HIT FROM THE BALL THROUGH, NOT BACK TO THE BALL. SEE THAT CLUB, IT SHOWS YOU HOW HIS LEFT HAND, THE LEFT HAND GOES RIGHT ON THROUGH TOWARD NO ONE. HE DOESN'T LET THAT CLUB HEAD PASS HIS HANDS TO PULL THE

BALL AROUND TO THE LEFT. THE CLUB STAYS RIGHT ON THE LINE. THE CLUB HEAD ON THE LINE THAT BALL'S SUPPOSED TO MOVE ON. HE DOES THAT BETTER THAN ANYBODY.

PETER KESSLER
HOW ABOUT HIS LITTLE REPERTOIRE AROUND THE GREEN, BYRON?

BYRON NELSON
WELL, HE DOES THE SAME THING, HE'S VERY UNIFORM. HE'S DONE IN PRACTICE ON IT AND WORKED ON IT ENOUGH AND I THINK A LOT OF IT BY NATURE, THE SHOT LIKE THIS, HE HIT, HE HITS THE BALL HIGH. HE CAN HIT IT LOW.

HE'S PRACTICED ON THIS AND IT'S JUST HIS NATURE TO SEEM TO WANT TO WORK ON THAT SHOT AND ANY SHOT THAT HE PLAYS A ROUND, HERE'S WHERE HE'S SO ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC IS OUT OF THIS ROUGH. SEE HE'S JUST OFF THE EDGE OF THE GREEN AND HE USES A 60 DEGREE

WEDGE AND LOOK AT THIS, BREAK THE BALL LIKE THAT AND I KNOW, I'VE HEARD KEN VENTURI ON THERE SAY WELL I'LL SEE IF HE GETS THIS ONE DOWN IN TWO AND HE'LL KNOCK IT UP THERE LIKE THAT JUST TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND HE DOES

THAT AND SEE, NOW THAT'S A TOUGH SHOT BECAUSE HE'S STANDING, STANDING UNCOMFORTABLE AND HE HAS TO BEND HIS KNEES MORE AND THEN OF COURSE, AND HE, SEE, TOO BAD.

PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHS)

BYRON NELSON
TOO BAD HE DIDN'T HOLE IT.

PETER KESSLER
AND THAT WAS OF COURSE AT LAST YEAR'S U.S. OPEN. THE 2000 OPEN AND HERE HE IS ON THE VERY NEXT HOLE, ON THE 18TH HOLE AT PEBBLE BEACH, AGAIN TRYING TO HOLE THE SHOT.

BYRON NELSON
RIGHT. THE FEEL THAT HE HAS TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT. EVEN THE SHOT HAS TO BE EXECUTED PROPERLY, NUMBER ONE, BUT NUMBER TWO, THERE HAS TO BE A FEEL IN YOUR HANDS AND YOUR BODY

OF THE SPEED OF HOW THAT CLUB IS GOING THROUGH TO GET THIS FEEL. YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT CONSCIOUS THAT YOU'RE AHEAD, YOU'RE JUST CONSCIOUS OF THE FEEL THAT THERE, THAT YOU CAN DO THAT AND HE DOES IT.

PETER KESSLER
HOW DO YOU LIKE HIM FROM 12 TO 15 FEET?

BYRON NELSON
BEST I EVER SAW. BEST I EVER SAW. THERE'S SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE TOP PLAYERS OUT THERE THAT COMPETE AND JUST TOLD ME THAT... WATCH THAT, THAT IT'S BETTER, EVEN MONEY THAT HE'LL MAKE THEM 12, 15 FEET.

TWEN... I SAID TO THE 12. TEN TO TWELVE FEET. HE'S BETTER THAN EVEN MONEY THAT HE'LL MAKE IT. WELL NOW THAT

PETER KESSLER
WELL NORMALLY 20% WOULD BE A GOOD NUMBER.

BYRON NELSON
YEAH, WELL, 5TH WOULD BE PLENTY.

PETER KESSLER
ALRIGHT, NOW HERE'S BYRON NELSON AND TIGER WOODS. WHAT DO YOU SEE SIR?

BYRON NELSON
TWO PLAYERS THAT KNEW HOW TO PLAY.

PETER KESSLER
ANY SIMILARITIES, DIFFERENCES?

BYRON NELSON
NO, I THINK THAT I'M LEANING A LITTLE BIT MORE FORWARD AND TO THE LEFT SIDE THAN HE IS. THE BALL'S ABOUT IN THE SAME POSITION. VERY CLOSE, SAME POSITION. THE ARMS ABOUT, WHAT THEY CALL THE 'V'. PRETTY MUCH THE SAME, AND MY KNEES ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE

RELAXED ON THE RIGHT SIDE THAN HIS. HE'S A LITTLE MORE EVEN, HIS WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION THEN WHAT I USED.

OF COURSE HE SWUNG THAT, NOW YOU SEE HE'LL SWING THE CLUB BACK A LOT FURTHER THAN WHAT I, I HAD A THREE QUARTER SWING BASICALLY, UNLESS I WANTED TO HIT IT REAL HARD, I'D GO

A LITTLE MORE. NOW WE'RE HALF WAY BACK AND SEEING THE, SEE, BOTH OF US ARE DOING THE SAME THING THERE. BOTH THE ARMS ARE STAYING STRAIGHT. THE HANDS ARE NOT, STILL DEAD HANDS, PRETTY WHAT'S IN THE SWING HALF WAY BACK. NOW YOU, NOW THE NEXT ONE

YOU SEE, NOW SEE WHERE HE WENT TO AND SEE MINE. SEE HOW MUCH HIGHER MY CLUB IS, MY CLUB, HIS CLUB IS DOWN A FOOT, MMM, A FOOT AT LEAST FOUR MORE THAN MINE DOWN, AND THE LEFT ARM, AND MY LEFT ARM HAD TURNED AS MUCH AS HIS, BUT SEE HOW MUCH HIS SHOULDER IS TURNED, MINE'S NOT TURNED THAT MUCH.

THAT'S THE MAIN DIFFERENCE AT THE TOP OF THE SWING. NOW HE IS, HIS LEGS ARE NOT BENT QUITE AS MUCH AS MINE BUT HE NEVER WILL HAVE TO LEARN TO PLAY IN THE WIND AS MUCH AS I DID IN TEXAS, BUT HIS, YOU CAN'T FAULT THAT WHERE

HE IS THERE AND NOW, COMING THROUGH THE BALL, SEE I LEAN MORE THROUGH AND STAY BACK A LITTLE BIT MORE, WEIGHT NOW BACK, A LITTLE MORE ON MY RIGHT SIDE THAN WHAT HE HAS. HE'S PRETTY WELL MOVED HIS WEIGHT INTO THE LEFT SIDE BUT HE'S STILL FROM HIS

HEAD AND NOT MOVED OFF OF THAT BALL AND NEITHER HAS MINE. SEE MY EYES ARE RIGHT ON THE BALL. HE HAS NOT MOVED THAT, AND OUR LEFT LEGS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME BECAUSE HIS WEIGHT HAS MOVED

A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE LEFT THAN WHAT MINE HAS AT THIS MOMENT. BOTH HANDS STILL THERE. HANDS ARE ABOUT THE SAME POSITION. NOW SEE MY HANDS, MY HANDS ARE A LITTLE BIT, HE HAS MOVED HIS HANDS A LITTLE FURTHER THROUGH THAN WHAT I HAVE

IN THIS SWING AND MY CLUB HEAD IS ABOUT TO PASS MY HANDS A LITTLE MORE THAN HIS, IN OTHER WORDS, HE'S GOING, HIS ARMS AND SHOULDERS, HE'S TURNING HIS SHOULDERS MORE THAN ME, SO YOU SEE, HIS LEFT SHOULDER, SEE MY LEFT
SHOULDER'S HIGHER THAN THE ONE, THAN WHAT HIS IS.

PETER KESSLER
LET'S TAKE IT THROUGH TO THE FINISH.

BYRON NELSON
NOW THEN, NOW AT THE FINISH, SEE IN THIS POSITION, SEE, NOW FROM THIS POSITION SEE, NOW HE IS, HE IS STRAIGHT LEGS AND MY LEGS ARE BENT. THEY SAID I HAD A DIP IN MY SWING. WELL, IF YOU HAD A, HAD A WAY TO SEE THOSE EXACT

AT IMPACT, WHERE WE EXACTLY HIT THE BALL, THEN MY LEGS WERE PRETTY MUCH LIKE HIS WERE, BUT I STAYED DOWN LONGER BECAUSE I PRACTICED A LOT AGAINST THE WIND AND TO KEEP THE CLUB LOW AGAINST THE WIND, WHY I LEARNED THAT, TO STAND DOWN LONGER THAN WHAT HE DOES.

PETER KESSLER
LET'S TAKE A LOOK, AND YOU OF COURSE PRACTICED INTO THE WIND TO WORK ON THAT, DIDN'T YOU?

BYRON NELSON
RIGHT I DID.

PETER KESSLER
LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE DOWN THE LINE VIEW. GO AHEAD COMMENT ON THE TOP OF THE FINISH.

BYRON NELSON
WELL, SEE HE'S STILL, NOW SEE HIS, HOW MUCH MORE HIS SHOULDERS TURNED THAN WHAT MINE IS AND THE CLUB WAS GOING THAT MUCH. SEE MY CLUB IS STILL JUST BACK OVER MY SHOULDER, AND HIS CLUB IS GOING WAY THROUGH A LOT

MORE. HE'S TURNED THROUGH MORE. SEE HOW MUCH MORE HIS HIPS ARE TURNED THROUGH THAN MINE? MINE ARE JUST BACK TO ABOUT SQUARE SO TO SPEAK, LEVEL, AND STRAIGHT OUT AND HIS IS TURNED. HIS LE... HIS RIGHT HIP IS PAST HIS LEFT HIP AND MINE IS NOT.

PETER KESSLER
IS THAT A FUNCTION OF YOURS BEING THREE QUARTERISH AND HIS BEING FULLER?

BYRON NELSON
RIGHT

PETER KESSLER
OKAY

BYRON NELSON
THAT'S CAUSED BY THAT. IF I, SEE I HAD A, I HAD A WAY, I PLAYED GOLF ABOUT LIKE I WAS RUNNING DOWN THE HIGHWAY AT 60 MILES AN HOUR. YOU DON'T GET MUCH TROUBLE AT 60 MILES AN HOUR.

YOU MIGHT RUN INTO SOMEBODY OR WHERE THE POLICE

PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHS)

BYRON NELSON
AND ONCE IN A WHILE, NOW THEN, WE GO IN ANOTHER POSITION, NOW RIGHT AT THIS POINT HE'S CLOSER TO THE BALL THAN WHAT I AM AND I THINK THAT'S GOOD. I THINK THAT, BUT I HAD MORE

FLEXY, SEE MY LEGS ARE FLEXED MORE THAN HIS, SO IT MADE ME BE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, FURTHER AWAY FROM THE BALL, AND I'M NOT AS TALL AS HE WAS.
NOW WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY START

BACK, WHY, SEE HIS RIGHT ARM STILL STAYS PRETTY STRAIGHT, WHERE MINE IS BENDING A LITTLE BIT COMING INTO THE SIDE. JUST A LITTLE BIT, AND NOTHING WRONG WITH EITHER ONE OF THOSE, BUT, BUT SEE THAT POSITION RIGHT THERE

NOW THAT'S I, JUST ABOUT ALMOST IDENTICAL.

PETER KESSLER
AND YOU BOTH HAVE THE CLUB IN FRONT OF YOU THE ENTIRE SWING, DON'T YOU?

BYRON NELSON
ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. NOW SEE MY LEFT, NOW WATCH AND SEE, NOW I GO, THEY STAY DOWN LOWER AND THROUGH HERE MORE THAN WHAT HE DOES, BECAUSE HE STANDS A LITTLE STRAIGHTER, HE'S A LITTLE MORE UPRIGHT, AND HE TURNS HIS SHOULDERS MORE AND I USE MORE FEET AND LEGS

AND HIPS THAN WHAT HE DID, ESPECIALLY ON THE BACK SWING THROUGH THE HITTING AREA. NOW YOU SEE I, I, SEE MY HEAD IS NOT MOVING TILL THE CLUB HEAD'S GONE, AND HIS CLUB HEAD'S GONE, HIS HEAD IS STILL RIGHT THERE AND HE GOES STRAIGHT BACK AS FAR AS HE CAN GO BEFORE HE COMES UP AND

GOING THROUGH, HE GOES STRAIGHT FORWARD, THROUGH, BEFORE THE CLUB COMES UP AND THAT'S WHY HE GETS ALL THAT TREMENDOUS DRIVE THROUGH THAT WHOLE AREA BECAUSE THE USE OF THE HIPS AND THE SHOULDERS THROUGH THAT AREA.

PETER KESSLER
AND GOING STRAIGHT BACK AS FAR AS YOU CAN WITHOUT LOSING HIS BALANCE AND STILL KEEPING HIS WEIGHT INSIDE HIS FEET.

BYRON NELSON
ABSOLUTELY. SEE THE AVERAGE PERSON OUT THERE WOULD BE, IF YOU PUT HIM BESIDE TIGER YOU'D SEE THE CLUB COMING RIGHT UP ALMOST. WHERE TIGER

GOES OUT THIS WAY. IF THE MAN IS COMING UP THIS WAY, THAT MEANS HE'S GOING TO HAVE SHORTER TRAVELING TIME FOR HIS CLUB, HE CAN'T GENERATE THAT MUCH SPEED AND MAKES THE

SWING A LITTLE MORE CHOPPY AND YOU CAN'T HIT THE BALL AS STRAIGHT AS YOU CAN GOING BACK AND THROUGH LOWER.

PETER KESSLER
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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