Golf Talk Live - Charles Howell III Transcript Segment 6

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RICH LERNER
YOU KNOW FULL WELL DAVID LEADBETTER IS A HIGH ENERGY GUY

TO SAY THE LEAST.

CHARLES HOWELL III
YES HE IS

RICH LERNER
AND HE CALLED US, GOT TO BE, WHAT? 2:00 OVER IN

ENGLAND.

CHARLES HOWELL III
YES.

RICH LERNER
OR WORKING ON 2:00, BUT NO SURPRISE TO YOU?

CHARLES HOWELL III
NO, NO HE'S PULLED THAT TRICK BEFORE. I WAS PLAYING AT THE WESTERN EARLIER THIS YEAR AND IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN 3:00 IN THE MORNING HIS TIME AND MY CELL PHONE RINGS, IT'S, OVER HERE, AND CHARLES, JUST HAD TO TELL YOU THAT

YOU'RE A LITTLE LAID OFF AT THE TOP. I SAW A SWING TODAY AND YOU GOT TO WORK ON THAT BEFORE TOMORROW AND SO HIS NICKNAME'S BATMAN. HE DOESN'T SLEEP AT ALL.

RICH LERNER
LET'S WELCOME ANOTHER GUY WHO'S BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN THE EARLY STAGES OF YOUR PROFESSIONAL CAREER, THAT IS YOUR AGENT, ROCKY HAMBRIC. ROCKY, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR BEING WITH US. HOW ARE YOU TONIGHT?

ROCKY HAMBRIC, CHARLES' AGENT (MALE):
I'M DOING GREAT RICH, HOW ABOUT YOU?

RICH LERNER
I'M, I'M DOING SENSATIONAL. YOU'VE GOT TO BE PROUD OF THE WORK THIS YOUNG MAN HAS DONE SO FAR.

ROCKY HAMBRIC, CHARLES' AGENT (MALE):
I'M EXTREMELY PROUD OF HIM. HE'S DONE A FABULOUS JOB SO FAR IN HIS PRO CAREER.

RICH LERNER
ROCKY, MUCH WAS MADE OF THE RECRUITMENT, AS WE SAID EARLIER, OF CHARLIE HOWELL. HE WAS CERTAINLY THE MOST SOUGHT AFTER GOLF COMMODITY SINCE TIGER WOODS AND

YOU WON THE AGENTING SWEEPSTAKES, IF, IF YOU WILL AND THEY WERE A HARD FOUGHT BATTLE. YOU AGREED TO GIVE CHARLIE 5% OF YOUR NEW FOUND COMPANY. YOU HAD BROKEN AWAY FROM YOUR PREVIOUS CONCERN. WHY

DID YOU GO SO DEEP ON THAT, AND WHAT DO YOU TELL A FUTURE PLAYER THAT YOU WOULD INC. WHO'S, WHO WOULD SEE 5% OF HIS EARNINGS GO TO CHARLIE HOWELL SINCE HE WOULD HAVE A PIECE OF THE COMPANY?

ROCKY HAMBRIC, CHARLES' AGENT (MALE):
WELL THE REASON REALLY IS THAT A PLAYER LIKE CHARLES HOWELL COMES ALONG MAYBE ONCE A DECADE, MAYBE TWICE IN A GREAT DECADE BUT NOT VERY OFTEN AND CERTAINLY NOT EVERY YEAR

AND HE MEANS SO MUCH TO A COMPANY, AND I MEAN THE ENTIRE COMPANY MEANING THE OWNERSHIP AND PEOPLE WHO OPERATE THE COMPANY, WHICH WOULD BE ME AND TO THE OTHER CLIENTS IN THE COMPANY. THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT HE GENERATES FOR

THE COMPANY GENERATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR A LOT OF PLAYERS AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NET INCOME VERSUS THE GROSS INCOME OF AN AGENT COMPANY, ANY PLAYER'S NOT GIVING 5% OF THEIR EARNINGS TO CHARLES. UNFORTUNATELY, RIGHT, CHARLES?

CHARLES HOWELL III
UNFORTUNATELY NOT.

ROCKY HAMBRIC, CHARLES' AGENT (MALE):
THAT'S RIGHT.

RICH LERNER
SO YOU DON'T FEEL AS THOUGH YOU WILL HAVE RADICALLY CHANGED THE NATURE OF THE PLAYER-AGENT RELATIONSHIP AS SOME HAD CONTENDED AT THE TIME?

ROCKY HAMBRIC, CHARLES' AGENT (MALE):
CERTAINLY NOT, I MEAN I'M CERTAINLY NOT THE FIRST MANAGER TO EVER RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTION OF A PLAYER. I BELIEVE THE VERY FIRST AGENT RECOGNIZED THE CONTRIBUTION OF THE VERY FIRST PLAYER AND THAT BEING MARK McCORMICK AND ARNOLD PALMER.

RICH LERNER
OKAY, LET'S ALSO LOOK AT ANOTHER ISSUE WHICH HAS SURROUNDED CHARLIE THROUGH THE FIRST YEAR AND A HALF OR SO OF HIS PROFESSIONAL LIFE AND, AND THAT IS THE LIMITATIONS THAT SEEM TO HAVE BEEN PLACED ON HIM WHERE

ELIGIBILITY IS CONCERNED. HE IS NOT TECHNICALLY A MEMBER OF THE PGA TOUR. THIS IS GENERALLY COMPLEX. I'M GOING TO LET YOU HAVE AT IT AND TRY

TO KEEP IT SIMPLE FOR OUR AUDIENCE TO UNDERSTAND. WHAT HURDLES HE HAD TO
OVERCOME AND HOW THE RESTRICTIONS MIGHT IMPACT THINGS GOING FORWARD.

ROCKY HAMBRIC, CHARLES' AGENT (MALE):
GOOD, WELL I'LL TRY TO DO MY BEST TO MAKE IT SIMPLE.

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL GOOD LUCK.

ROCKY HAMBRIC, CHARLES' AGENT (MALE):
CHARLES IS ACTUALLY A SPECIAL TEMPORARY MEMBER OF THE TOUR AS HE WAS LAST SUMMER AFTER HE MADE AS MUCH MONEY AS THE 150TH MONEY WINNER IN 1999. HE DID THAT IN 2000 AND

BECAME A SPECIAL TEMPORARY MEMBER BUT DIDN'T FINISH IN THE TOP 125. IN LATE 1999 THE POLICY FOR CHANGE, THE DEFINITION OF WHAT IS THE OFFICIAL PGA TOUR MONEY LIST EFFECTIVE FOR THE YEAR 2000 AND TO BE LISTED ON THE OFFICIAL PGA TOUR MONEY LIST

BEGINNING IN 2000, YOU HAD TO HAVE BEEN A MEMBER AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR OR YOU HAVE TO BECOME A FULL MEMBER DURING THE YEAR, NOT A SPECIAL TEMPORARY MEMBER WHICH HAD BEEN THE CASE BEFORE. AS A CONSEQUENCE, CHARLES DOESN'T APPEAR

ON THE MONEY LIST AND YOU KNOW HAS TO FINISH IN THE TOP 25 TO GET ANY BENEFITS. FOR INSTANCE, 125 TO 150, THAT CATEGORY IN ALL PREVIOUS YEARS BEFORE LAST YEAR WOULD HAVE EARNED

A CONDITIONAL CARD FOR THE NEXT YEAR, BUT IN CHARLES' CASE BECAUSE HE DID IT IN THE YEAR 2000 IT DIDN'T EARN THAT STATUS FOR 2001. THE IMPACT FOR THIS YEAR AND THEREFORE GOING FORWARD FOR CHARLES IS, HE'S ASSURED

OF HAVING A CARD FOR NEXT YEAR BECAUSE HE'S IN THE TOP ONE TWENT.. WILL BE IN THE TOP 125 AT THE END OF THE YEAR. HOWEVER HE'S NOT ON THE OFFICIAL PGA TOUR MONEY LIST WHICH MEANS THAT UNLESS HE WINS, WHICH IS

ABOUT THE ONLY WAY HE CAN BECOME A FULL MEMBER BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, HE CAN'T PLAY IN THE TOUR CHAMPIONSHIP AND HE WOULDN'T BE LISTED ON THE OFFICIAL MONEY LIST AT THE END OF THE YEAR WHICH CREATES A

NUMBER OF SCENARIOS AS WHETHER OR NOR HE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE IF HE FINISHED IN THE TOP 20 FOR THE USGA'S INVITATION TO THE U.S. OPEN, THE R&A'S INVITATION TO THE BRITISH OPEN AND IF HE FINISHES IN THE TOP 40 WHETHER HE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR AN INVITATION TO NEXT YEAR'S MASTERS.

RICH LERNER
CHARLES, YOU'VE BEEN OUTSPOKEN ON OCCASION, YOU DID NOT LIKE THE RULES SET UP. DO YOU THINK THEY WERE DESIGNED TO PROTECT SOME OF THE VETERAN PLAYERS ON TOUR AT THE EXPENSE OF YOUNG GUYS LIKE YOURSELF?

CHARLES HOWELL III
YOU KNOW IT, IT'S A TOUGH CALL THERE. I MEAN GRANTED THEY DIDN'T REALLY EXPECT A NON MEMBER TO DO WHAT I DID, YOU KNOW, WHO WOULD HAVE PUT THAT SCENARIO IN ORDER AND, SO, I MEAN FROM THE TOUR'S STANDPOINT IN

DEFENSE OF THE TOUR, I CAN UNDERSTAND THE RULES. I CAN UNDERSTAND THE MISHAPS AND THE MISUNDERSTANDINGS. OBVIOUSLY FROM MY POSITION THOUGH I HAD A HARD TIME BELIEVING THEM AND SWALLOWING THEM
AND STILL AM.

RICH LERNER
BUT, I GUESS TO PUT YOUR TALENT IN PERSPECTIVE, AND ROCKY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SAY GOOD-BYE BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, HE HAS NOW BECOME ONE OF ONLY THREE PLAYERS TO HAVE EVER EARNED THE CARD FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR

WITH THOSE SEVEN SPONSORS EXEMPTIONS. TIGER AND JUSTIN LEONARD THE OTHER TWO, IS THAT CORRECT?

ROCKY HAMBRIC, CHARLES' AGENT (MALE):
THAT'S CORRECT. IN FACT, IT'S INTERESTING, HE'S BEEN A SPECIAL TEMPORARY MEMBER TWICE.

CHARLES HOWELL III
(LAUGHS)

RICH LERNER
ALRIGHT. ROCKY, WE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RUN. THANKS FOR DROPPING BY

ROCKY HAMBRIC, CHARLES' AGENT (MALE):
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

RICH LERNER
AND BEST OF LUCK.

CHARLES HOWELL III
THANKS ROCK.

ROCKY HAMBRIC, CHARLES' AGENT (MALE):
I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING

RICH LERNER
WE'RE BACK WITH MORE IN JUST A MOMENT.

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