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Golf Talk Live - Chi Chi Rodriguez Transcript Segment 2

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PETER KESSLER
WHAT IN YOUR VIEW IS THE CURRENT AND FUTURE STATE, IN YOUR OPINION, OF THE SENIOR TOUR?

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
I THINK THE SENIOR TOUR IS PRETTY STABLE, IS GOING TO GET BETTER. IT, IT'S TOO BAD THAT JACK HASN'T PLAYED AS MUCH AS HE SHOULD AND ARNOLD OF COURSE, HE'S ON HIS WAY OUT, YOU KNOW, HE'S STILL THE KING OF GOLF. WE NEED TOM WATSON TO PLAY MORE. WE NEED LANNY WADKINS TO PLAY MORE.

TOM KITE, AND THEN BRUCE LIETZKY'S COMING PRETTY SOON AND THEN WHEN FUZZY ZOELLER GETS TO THE SENIOR TOUR, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST HELP BECAUSE HE'S THE, HE'S THE KIND OF GUY THAT THE PEOPLE REALLY LIKE TO BE AROUND. HE'S A COLORFUL GUY PLUS HE CAN REALLY PLAY SOME GOLF.

PETER KESSLER
AND YOU AND LEE TREVINO REALLY HAVE BEEN CARRYING THAT INTERPERSONAL ROLE WITH THE CROWD TO A LARGE EXTENT HAVEN'T YOU THE LAST FEW YEARS?

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
YEAH BUT SO HAVE ARNOLD AND UH AND UH GARY PLAYER. WE WERE THE, THE FOUR. YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T, IT'S PRETTY TOUGH TO BEAT THOSE YOUNGER GUYS NOW A DAYS SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN WINNING MUCH AND I, I THINK WE NEED UH WE NEED SOME LEADERS LIKE, LIKE FUZZY AND PETER, PETER JACOBSON WHEN HE COMES HE'S GOING TO BE TREMENDOUS FOR US AND SO IS BEN CRENSHAW.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON TOMORROW'S PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL I HOPE FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY THAT GEORGE BUSH WINS BECAUSE THE OTHER GUY DON'T LIKE RICH PEOPLE, AND HE'S RICH (LAUGHS) YOU KNOW. I'M A, I'M A, A VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN AND I DON'T MIND SAYING THAT TO ANYBODY. I THINK THAT UH WE NEED TO, TO HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT OUR ARMED FORCES CAN RESPECT AND WE NEED A PRESIDENT THAT YOU CAN TELL THE KIDS I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO BE LIKE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT IN 8 YEARS.

PETER KESSLER
YOU DON'T THINK IT'S A VERY CLOSE CALL BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM?

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL IF PEOPLE VOTE FOR WHAT'S GOOD FOR THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, THEN AL GORE HAS A CHANCE, BUT IF THEY VOTE FOR WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, GEORGE BUSH IS THE MAN.

PETER KESSLER
BUT ISN'T WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY GOOD FOR YOU INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL?

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
NOT PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW. YOU CAN MAKE LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY FOR JUST A FEW PEOPLE. I MEAN I WORK PRETTY HARD, AND YOU WORK PRETTY HARD, PETER. I WAS POOR AT ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT POOR ANYMORE. I'M NOT ROCKEFELLER, BUT I'M NOT ANGELA BUTZ EITHER YOU KNOW, SO I PAY A LOT OF TAXES AND WHEN THESE MEN SAY HE'S GOING TO GET THAT TAXES TO OTHER PEOPLE, BUT NOT ALL THE AMERICANS, IT BOTHERS ME.

YOU KNOW THAT'S SOCIALISM. YOU HAVE TO GIVE, WHEN YOU GIVE A TAX BREAK, YOU GIVE IT, GIVE IT TO EVERYBODY.

PETER KESSLER
ONE OF YOUR BIGGEST HEROES WAS ABRAHAM LINCOLN AND OBVIOUSLY HE HAD LOTS OF INCREDIBLE QUALITIES AND CHARACTER AND VALUES. WHAT PARTICULAR VALUES, AND WHAT ABOUT HIS CHARACTER MAKES HIM A HERO OF YOURS?

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL, ABRAHAM LINCOLN, NOT ONLY HIM, BUT JIMMY CARTER IS ONE OF MY HEROES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT. JIMMY CARTER UH BUILT HOMES FOR THE POOR. HE DOESN'T GET PAID. ALWAYS HE MADE PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST BETWEEN EGYPT AND ISRAEL AND I THINK INSTEAD OF THE POLITICIANS TRYING TO DO IT THEMSELVES THEY OUGHT TO SEND JIMMY CARTER OVER THERE RIGHT NOW, AND HE CAN HANDLE THE SITUATION. WELL THE EVERYTHING HE DID. HE, YOU KNOW ABRAHAM LINCOLN WAS KICKED OUT OF HIS HOUSE WHEN HE WAS A KID BECAUSE HE WAS AN UGLY KID. I'VE NEVER SEEN AN UGLY KID.

ALL THE KIDS ARE BEAUTIFUL TO ME, BUT ANYWAY, HE UH HE WAS A `C' STUDENT AND HE JUST BARELY MADE IT IN EVERYTHING THAT, THAT HE DID. YOU KNOW IN SCHOOL, HE, ALL THE KIDS USED TO ACCUSE HIM OF BEING STUPID AND UH HE GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL, THEN HE WENT TO COLLEGE AND HE GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE, STILL A `C' STUDENT AND THEN HE TOLD THE UH THE OTHER GUYS THAT HE WAS GOING TO BECOME A LAWYER SO HE FAILED TWICE, AND THEN HE WENT BACK AND HE, HE GOT THE UH HE PASSED THE LAW SCHOOL, AND THEN HE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE UH THROUGH THE BAR, TO GET THE BAR, YOU KNOW THE KENNEDY KID FAILED THAT 8 TIMES TOO. WELL HE FAILED THAT 8 TIMES, AND HE WENT BACK, HE PERSISTED AND HE BECAME A LAWYER AND THEN HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO BECOME A SENATOR OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THEY TOLD HIM YOU'RE REALLY CRAZY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT SMART ENOUGH AND HE SAYS I'M GOING RUN AND HE RUN AND HE LOST TWICE, AND HE RAN AGAIN, AND THEN HE WON, AND THEN HE SAID NOW I'M GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND UH THE PEOPLE
SAID YOU'RE REALLY CRAZY, AND HE RAN AND HE WON, AND THEN HE GAVE A SPEECH, AND THE NEWSPAPER PEOPLE WROTE IT AS THE WORST SPEECH THAT ANY PRESIDENT HAS EVER GAVE, AND NOW, IT'S REMEMBERED AS THE GREATEST SPEECH THAT ANY PRESIDENT EVER GAVE, PLUS HE SAY UH HE, YOU KNOW, HE FREED THE SLAVES. THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL. HE WAS A BEAUTIFUL PERSON. HE SHOULD BE IN HEAVEN.

PETER KESSLER
WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE A CONSERVATIVE, BUT YOU'RE ALSO VERY COMPASSIONATE, WITH THE WAY THAT YOU FEEL ABOUT LIFE, AND CHILDREN, CHILDREN AND
CHARITY, SOME PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED, DESPITE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE CONSERVATIVE, THAT YOU BELIEVE IN THE DEATH PENALTY. TELL US ABOUT THAT.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL, THE DEATH PENALTY DOES NOT PER SAY DETER CRIME, BUT IT GUARANTEES YOU THAT THAT PERSON WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN, AND THAT'S ALL YOU WANT. I BELIEVE THAT THE LAW SHOULD BE THAT UH IF YOU COMMIT RAPE, ESPECIALLY A KID, IF YOU RAPE A KID, THEN YOU SHOULD ASK THE FAMILY OF THAT KID WHAT YOU WANT DONE WITH THAT GUY. OR THAT PERSON, AND I GUARANTEE YOU, THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH CRIME IN THE ISLAMIC COUNTRIES BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF YOU STEAL THEY CUT YOUR HAND OFF. THEY DON'T, IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR HAND CUT OFF, YOU WON'T STEAL. VERY GOOD CHANCE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STEAL. THE NEXT TIME, THEY, I, I, I STUDIED THE ISLAM, UH ISLAM A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I WAS FASCINATED WITH THE RELIGION, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DON'T DRINK, THEY DON'T SMOKE, THEY DON'T BOTHER NOBODY AND THEIR LAWS ARE TREMENDOUS. IF YOU STEAL AGAIN THEY CUT YOUR, YOUR FOOT OFF, THAT WAY YOU HAVE TO BEG, SO NOW THERE'S, YOU DON'T STEAL. NOW THEY, IF YOU STEAL FOR YOUR KIDS, YOU STEAL FOOD OR SOMETHING, THEY FORGIVE YOU, BUT IF YOU HOLD UP SOMEBODY LIKE THAT, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. IF YOU COMMIT ADULTERY, THEY, THEY STONE YOU TO DEATH SO YOU DON'T COMMIT ADULTERY. IF YOU COMMIT RAPE I CAN'T TELL YOU ON TV WHAT THEY DO, BUT THEY DO HANG YOU. THEY LET YOU, THEY LET YOU, LET THE PEOPLE WATCH YOU FOR 48 HOURS, SO YOU DON'T RAPE.

PETER KESSLER
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BREAK, WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK, AS WE LEAVE WE'VE GOT A LITTLE POTPOURRI OF SOME OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT YOUR CAREER. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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