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Golf Talk Live - Chi Chi Rodriguez Transcript Segment 3

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PETER KESSLER
WHY DON'T WE CHECK IN WITH 12 YEAR OLD STEPHEN, HE'S CALLING FROM NORTH CAROLINA. HOW ARE YOU STEPHEN?

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
PRETTY GOOD.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT'S GOING ON?

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
UH.. NOTHING MUCH.

PETER KESSLER
OKAY. SAY HI TO CHI CHI.

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
HEY. HEY CHI CHI.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
HI STEPHEN. HOW ARE YOU?

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
PRETTY GOOD. HOW ABOUT YOU?

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
GOOD. YOU MUST BE A LITTLE COLD OUT THERE IN NORTH CAROLINA, HUH?

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
YUP.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL GET YOUR DADDY OUT THERE TO GO AND VOTE FOR GEORGE BUSH.

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
YEAH HE IS.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
THAT A BOY. WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU KID?

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
UH I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU WHY YOU ACTED THE WAY YOU DID AFTER YOU MADE ANY PUTTS AND IF YOU DID THAT TO MAKE THE AUDIENCE LAUGH OR SOMETHING?

PETER KESSLER
HE WANTS TO KNOW HOW YOU GOT YOUR ROUTINE AFTER YOU MAKE PUTTS. THE HAT, THE SWORD DANCE? WHY DO YOU ACT THE WAY YOU DO, I THINK. RIGHT STEPHEN?

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
UH HUH

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
20:WELL, STEPHEN TO START WITH, SEE GOLF IS SHOW BUSINESS. WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE ON THE GOLF COURSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON STAGE, AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE PEOPLE A SHOW.

YOU KNOW IT AMAZES ME THAT THE, THAT THE YOUNG GUYS, AND OF COURSE THEY'RE PLAYING FOR SO MUCH MONEY AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE THE BEST BEHAVED ATHLETES THERE IS RIGHT NOW, THE GOLFERS. I'M VERY PROUD THAT, TO SEE THOSE GUYS MAKING THE KIND OF MONEY THEY DO AND BEHAVE THE WAY THEY DO, BUT THEY DON'T LOOK AT PEOPLE, AND A LOT OF THEM ARE GOING TO PSYCHOLOGISTS TO, WELL SOME OF THE PSYCHOLOGISTS, THEY NEED YOU MORE THAN YOU NEED THEM. YOU KNOW, BEN HOGAN NEVER, NEVER GAVE HIS BRAIN TO NO PSYCHOLOGIST OR NELSON OR SNEAD OR NICKLAUS OR, OR ARNIE, SO I HAVE, I WAS MY OWN, MY OWN GUY, YOU KNOW AND I WANTED TO BE DIFFERENT. I WANTED TO SEE PEOPLE SMILE. PEOPLE LAUGH, SO, WHEN I FIRST CAME TO THE UNITED STATES I USED TO PUT MY HAT OVER THE HOLE BECAUSE, ONE TIME I WAS PLAYING A KID FOR FIVE CENTS AND I MADE A PUTT FROM 20 FEET AND THERE WAS A TOAD IN THE HOLE AND THE TOAD HOPPED OUT AND THERE CAME MY BALL AND THE OTHER KID SAYS, WELL IT'S NO GOOD UNLESS THEY HIT THE BOTTOM OF THE HOLE, WHICH IS THE RULE. THAT'S, THAT'S THE TRUTH, SO AFTER THAT I STARTED PUTTING MY HAT OVER THE HOLE, WELL SOME OF THE PROS COMPLAINED THAT I WAS UH DAMAGING THE HOLE. OF COURSE I DIDN'T KNOW, THE GUYS LIKE ARNIE AND JACK, THEY WERE TOO BIG TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT, ABOUT ME BUT, THE COMMISSIONER OF GOLF, JOE DYE ASKED ME IF I COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE, SO I SAID WELL IF IT'S GOOD ENOUGH WITH YOU JOE, IT'S GOOD ENOUGH WITH ME, SO I WENT HOME, AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND I SAID WELL, WITH US SPANISH SPEAKING PEOPLE, THE, THE BIGGEST SPORT IS BULL FIGHTING. I DON'T LIKE BULL FIGHTING BECAUSE THEY, THEY MAKE THE BULL SUFFER, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY GIVE THE BEEF TO THE POOR, AFTER, AFTER THEY DO AWAY WITH THE BULL. SO I THOUGHT THE BULL WAS THE, THE HOLE AND I STOPPED THE BULL AND THEN I TAKE THE SWORD AND I DRY IT OUT WHICH IS THE PUTTER AND I PUT IT BACK IN THE SCAVER, YOU KNOW, BUT IN REAL LIFE, I, I'M LIKE ANTHONY PERKINS. I WOULDN'T HURT A FLY.

PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHS)

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
I REALLY WOULDN'T HURT A FLY.

PETER KESSLER
YOU MENTIONED SNEAD AND HOGAN AND NELSON, AND OF THOSE THREE, SNEAD WAS REALLY YOUR IDOL. HOW COME?

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL, THEY WERE ALL MY IDOLS, BUT SAM SNEAD NEVER HAD WHAT HE SHOULD HAVE HAD DUE COMING. SAM SNEAD WAS THE BEST PLAYER I EVER SAW IN MY LIFE AND, AND, AND AS YOU CAN SEE I SAW YESTERDAY ON THE GOLF CHANNEL. I WAS WATCHING THE GOLF CHANNEL AND THEY, THEY GAVE THE STATS OF TIGER WOODS BREAKING BYRON NELSON'S RECORD. WELL, WHAT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT THAT IS THAT ONLY 5 PEOPLE HAVE BROKEN 70 FOR A YEAR, AND SAM SNEAD IS TWO OUT OF THOSE 5 PEOPLE, AND SAM, SAM WON 11 TOURNAMENTS ONE YEAR, AND HOGAN WON ONE TOURNAMENT AND THEY MADE HOGAN THE PLAYER OF THE YEAR.

PETER KESSLER
WELL HOGAN WON THE OPEN AND SNEAD WON 11 OTHERS AND HOGAN ONLY PLAYED IN A COUPLE OF EVENTS THAT YEAR. THAT WAS THE YEAR AFTER HIS ACCIDENT 1950.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
RIGHT, BUT SAM, I THINK SAM, IF, IF IF WE PLAYED WITH THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE PLAY WITH NOW, I THINK SAM SNEAD WOULD SHOOT IN THE 50'S EVERY WEEK, BECAUSE HE HIT THE BALL SO FAR, YOU KNOW, SAM SNEAD USED TO CARRY
THOSE, THOSE BALLS THERE WITH A WOODEN CLUB 280 YARDS IN THE AIR, AND STRAIGHT. HE'D NEVER MISS A FAIRWAY.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE REASON IS THAT HE DIDN'T WIN AT LEAST ONE U.S. OPEN? HE SAID IF HE HAD SHOT 69 IN THE FINAL ROUND OF EVERY OPEN HE WOULD HAVE WON TEN OR ELEVEN OF THEM.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL, I REALLY DON'T KNOW. IN THE OLD DAYS YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY MEASURED TOURN.. . OF COURSE, THE, THE WAY THEY HAVE MEASURED TOURNAMENTS, PETER, YOU KNOW, SURE THE OPEN WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE. THEN THE MASTERS WAS SECOND. THE WESTERN WAS THE THIRD BIGGEST TOURNAMENT.

PETER KESSLER
IN THE 30'S YEAH.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
IT WAS BIGGER THAN THE PGA. IT WAS BIGGER THAN THE BRITISH OPEN. AFTER I WON IT
(LAUGHS)

PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHS)

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
IT WENT DOWN HILL.

PETER KESSLER
WELL SURE.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
(LAUGHS)

I MEAN I SHOT THE RECORD. YOU KNOW, I SHOT 19 UNDER IN THAT, IN THAT TOURNAMENT UH UH I SHOT NO 20 UNDER. I SHOT 268 I THINK IT WAS AT THE (20:28:09???) AND AFTER THAT IT WENT DOWN HILL, BUT I, YEAH, I THINK THAT SAM SNEAD, HAD HE WON ONE HE WOULD HAVE MAYBE WON TEN OF THEM.

PETER KESSLER
HOW PROUD WERE YOU TO HAVE BEEN SELECTED FOR THE 1973 RYDER CUP TEAM?

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL, PETER I QUALIFIED IN 1964, AND LET ME TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED. THEY DIDN'T ALLOW ME TO PLAY. THEY SAID THAT I WAS NOT A BORN AMERICAN. OR NOT BORN ON AMERICAN SOIL, BUT I HAD SPENT TWO YEARS IN THE ARMY, YOU KNOW, I VOLUNTEERED TO FIGHT IN KOREA BECAUSE ALL MY BUDDIES GOT KILLED IN KOREA, SO I WAS PLAYING WITH SENATOR FULLBRIGHT WAS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, SO HE USED TO COME TO THE RATTLE (??) AND WE SAT DOWN AND HAD LUNCH AFTER WE PLAYED AND UH HE SAID HOW IS LIFE TREATING YOU? I SAID, WELL, YOU, I CAN'T BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THAT I QUALIFIED FOR THE RYDER CUP TEAM AND THEY DIDN'T ALLOW ME TO PLAY IN IT. THEY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW ME TO PLAY IN IT AND HE LOOKED AT ME, HE SAYS, IF YOU DON'T WANT RYDER CUP MATCHES TO BE, TO BE PLAYED THIS YEAR, HE SAID LET ME KNOW. I'LL INTRODUCE A LAW IN THE SENATE THAT WILL CANCEL THE MATCHES, AND I TOLD HIM, NO SIR, IF THEY DON'T WANT ME, I WON'T PLAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BUT IN 1963 I WAS ELECTED TO THE, TO THE RYDER CUP TEAM AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT WE WON.

PETER KESSLER
CHI CHI WHEN WE COME BACK FROM THIS BREAK, WHY DON'T YOU HELP US ALL WITH OUR GOLF GAMES. WE'LL WONDER OVER TO OUR ACADEMY LIVE SET AND MAYBE YOU'LL TAKE US THROUGH WHAT YOU CALL THE 6 BASICS OF THE GOLF SWING. LET'S DO THAT IN JUST A MINUTE. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
ABSOLUTELY.

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