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Golf Talk Live - Jack Nicklaus Transcript Segment 4

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(VIDEO FROM 1986 MASTERS)
JIM NANTZ, ANNOUNCER
TOM WEISKOPF, WHAT IS GOING THROUGH JACK'S MIND RIGHT NOW. HE HAS NOT EXPERIENCED THIS KIND OF A STREAK IN A LONG TIME.

TOM WEISKOPF
IF I KNEW THE WAY HE THOUGHT, I WOULD HAVE WON THIS TOURNAMENT. (LAUGH)

PETER KESSLER
SO WHAT WERE YOU THINKING ALL THOSE YEARS THAT NOBODY ELSE SUPPOSEDLY WAS?

JACK NICKLAUS
GOOD QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE THINKING. ALL I WAS THINKING ABOUT WAS WHAT I WAS DOING. AND UH, YOU KNOW,

I JUST KEPT MY MIND ON WHAT I WAS DOING AND I ALWAYS FELT LIKE UH .UH.

YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS PLAYED UH . UH, PEOPLE SAY I DIDN'T AGGRESSIVE GOLF. I WAS VERY CONSERVATIVE. AND I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SMART GOLF AND DUMB GOLF.

AND DUMB GOLF TO ME IS BEING AGGRESSIVE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO . TO BE AGGRESSIVE AND THE PENALTY'S TOO GREAT. SMART GOLF IS WHEN YOU TAKE YOUR CHANCES WHEN IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE TO TAKE A CHANCE.

IT JUST HAPPENS. IN OTHER WORDS, LIKE THE SHOT THERE AT 16 TAKING IT INTO THE HOLE. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FAIRLY AGGRESSIVE TO TAKE IT RIGHT DEAD AT THE HOLE. BUT THE ONLY THING IS ALL YOU HAVE TO REALLY DO THERE IS TO HIT IT PAST THE BUNKER

AND THE BALL'S GONNA HIT THE BANK AND COME BACK DOWN TO THE HOLE. SO IT'S NOT A VERY HARD SHOT. BUT UH . THE UH .UH .

AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY I PLAYED. I PLAYED WITHIN MYSELF AND WHAT I KNEW I THOUGHT I COULD DO. AND THAT'S ALL I WAS THINKING.

PETER KESSLER
CONSIDERING THAT YOU HAD PLAYED VERY 'UN-NICKLAUS-LIKE' GOLF GOING INTO THAT TOURNAMENT, THE '86 MASTERS, AFTER A NOT SO THRILLING 1985, WHAT DID YOU ACCOUNT, WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE FOR THE TURNAROUND THAT YOU WERE PLAYING YOUR KIND OF GOLF AGAIN.

JACK NICKLAUS
OH, PETER, I DON'T KNOW. I THINK THAT JUST HAPPENED TO BE A WEEK I WAS UH . IN '85 UH . (CHUCKLE) I GOT SO - I GOT ON A DIET AND GOT SO SKINNY I COULD HARDLY HIT A . I MEAN, I PROBABLY . MY CLOTHES JUST FELL OFF ME.

AND I HAD NO STRENGTH AT ALL. I REMEMBER THE U.S. OPEN .

PETER KESSLER
BUT YOU LOOKED GOOD.

JACK NICKLAUS
OH YEAH, LOOKED GREAT AND .BUT . I COULD HIT IT, I COULD HIT IT, ALMOST HIT IT OUT OF MY SHADOW.

AND UH, THEN '86 I STARTED OUT THE YEAR AND ACTUALLY UH . UH, HIT THE BALL PRETTY GOOD EARLY IN THE YEAR BUT COULDN'T MAKE A PUTT. AND UH,

THEN I THINK THAT AUGUSTA I STARTED UH . OR NO, IT WAS THE OTHER WAY AROUND, MAYBE I WASN'T HITTING THE BALL VERY WELL . AND CAN - WAS PUTTING, THEN I GOT TO AUGUSTA, AND I STARTED HITTING THE BALL BETTER AND THEN I FINALLY STARTED PUTTING.

BUT I GOT -- MY PUTTING GOT BETTER EVERY DAY. AND MY HITTING THE BALL GOT BETTER EVERY DAY. AND, YOU KNOW, FINALLY I JUST GOT INTO A POSITION WHERE, UH, I DID SOMETHING WHEN I HOLED THE PUTT AT 9, FOLLOWED UP WITH A PUTT AT 10,

AND A PUTT AT 11. AND WHAT HAPPENED THE REST OF THE YEAR AND WHAT HAPPENED IN '85 DIDN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MASTERS. I HAD A CHANCE TO WIN. AND, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T REMEMBER ALL THAT OTHER STUFF. YOU JUST GO PLAY WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

PETER KESSLER
PEOPLE FORGET, I THINK, SOMETIMES THAT YOU WEREN'T A HUNDRED SHOTS BACK WITH ONE ROUND TO GO NEEDING TO SHOOT 53. YOU WERE JUST 4 SHOTS BACK AND RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT THING.

JACK NICKLAUS
YEAH, IT WAS - IT'S NOT THAT I WAS ONLY 4 SHOTS BACK, THERE JUST WEREN'T THAT MANY PLAYERS AHEAD OF ME.

PETER KESSLER
THAT'S RIGHT

JACK NICKLAUS
WHAT WAS IT, HALF A DOZEN PLAYERS AHEAD OF ME OR SOMETHING. I DON'T . WHATEVER THERE WAS. BUT UH,

IT REALLY WASN'T THAT I HAD TO SHOOT A GREAT ROU - I HAD TO SHOOT A GREAT ROUND. BUT UH, IT WAS .

I JUST HAD TO GO DO IT. YOU KNOW . YOU KNOW, YOU JUST SAY, 'YEAH, OKAY. WELL I CAN SHOOT 65 AND WIN'. BUT YOU GOTTA GO SHOOT THE 65.

PETER KESSLER
YOU HAD BEEN USED TO OVER YOUR CAREER THAT WHEN YOUR NAME WOULD WORK ITS WAY UP TO THE TOP OF THE LEADERBOARD THAT THAT WOULD SHAKE A LOT OF GUYS AROUND YOUR NAME.

WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION, IF YOU HAD ONE AT ALL OR IT EVEN OCCURRED TO YOU AT THE TIME, THERE THEY GO THEY'RE FALLING OFF THE LEADERBOARD AGAIN BECAUSE MY NAME'S AT THE TOP.

JACK NICKLAUS
NO, I NEVER THOUGHT THAT. THEY . THEY HAVEN'T FALLEN OFF THE LEADERBOARD WITH MY NAME AT THE TOP SINCE 1980. (LAUGH)

AND CERTAINLY THEY WEREN'T FALLING OFF IN '86 . NOT BECAUSE MY NAME WAS UP THERE. BUT UH, THEY STARTED FALLING OFF THE LEADERBOARD BECAUSE IT WAS THE MASTERS AND YOU . AND

TO WIN THE MASTERS IS SOMETHING THAT THE OTHER PEOPLE WANTED TO DO TOO. AND I, I GUESS THAT MAYBE I HAD DONE IT BEFORE AND I KNEW HOW TO GET IT DONE.

PETER KESSLER
WE'VE GOT A YOUNG MAN ON THE PHONE WHO WAS BORN IN THE YEAR THAT YOU WON YOUR MOST RECENT MASTERS,

JACK NICKLAUS
OH, OKAY.

PETER KESSLER
14 YEAR OLD, JEFFREY. HOW ARE YOU SIR?

JEFFREY, CALLER FROM FLORIDA
YEAH, HI. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY IT'S A PLEASURE TO TALK TO YOU MR. NICKLAUS.

JACK NICKLAUS
AND JEFFREY.

JEFFREY, CALLER FROM FLORIDA
AND I'D UH . I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU UH WHO YOU THINK IS THE - WHO YOU PICK FOR THIS YEAR'S MASTERS?

JACK NICKLAUS
WELL JEFFREY, IF I KNEW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, I WOULD BE RICH NEXT WEEK. UH, THERE ARE SO MANY GOOD PLAYERS OUT THERE TODAY. UH, I MEAN, I THINK IF ANYBODY UH WOULDN'T PICK BETWEEN, UH,

DAVID DUVAL AND TIGER WOODS, I THINK UH . IF YOU . YOU KNOW, THE 2 OF THEM ARE OBVIOUSLY HAVE GOT TO BE THE PLAYERS TO BEAT. BUT OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THE WAY UH . UH, DAVID'S PLAYING RIGHT NOW IT'S FANTASTIC.

HE UH . I HAD THE PLEASURE OF HAVING BOTH OF THOSE YOUNG MEN ON MY UH . UH, PRESIDENTS CUP TEAM LAST UH, LAST DECEMBER. UH, THEY UH . YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BOTH . THEY'RE BOTH VERY POSITIVE. THEY'RE BOTH GREAT PLAYERS. AND . AND ANY OF THOSE OTHER PLAYERS ON THAT TEAM WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WIN. I MEAN,

THERE'S SO MANY GOOD PLAYERS NOW THAT UH . UH, TO TRY TO PICK ONE OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE PACK IS PRETTY DIFFICULT.

UNKNOWN SPECTATOR
GET IN!

CROWD
YEAH! (APPLAUSE)

PETER KESSLER
THAT WASN'T BAD EITHER. THAT WAS THE PUTT FOR THE 59.

JACK NICKLAUS
YEAH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HAPPENED TO SEE THAT ON TELEVISION. I DON'T WATCH A LOT OF GOLF, PETER. BUT I DID HAPPEN TO SEE THAT. I MEAN, I TURN ON THE TELEVISION AND I , AND I SAID, 'HUH?'

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHAT WAS IT, MINUS 13 OR SOMETHING ON THE -- I SAID, 'NO, NO. COME ON, THAT'S GOTTA BE A MISPRINT.' SO I'VE GOTTA JUST SEE JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TO SEE IF THAT'S NOT A MISPRINT OR WHATEVER IT WAS.

BUT UH, THAT WAS SOME ROUND.

PETER KESSLER
AND HOW MANY GOLF BOOKS HAVE YOU READ?

JACK NICKLAUS
PETER, OTHER THAN EDITING MY OWN BOOKS, I'VE NEVER READ A GOLF BOOK.

PETER KESSLER
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. AS WE LEAVE YOU FOR JUST A MOMENT, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT JACK'S RECORD AT THE MASTERS FROM 1962, THE YEAR THAT HE TURNED PROFESSIONAL, THROUGH '86, HIS MOST RECENT VICTORY AT AUGUSTA NATIONAL.

25 APPEARANCES, 6 WINS, 4 TIMES RUNNER-UP, 15 TOP-5'S, AND 18 TOP-10'S.

DON'T GO AWAY.

GRAPHIC SHOWN:
MASTERS PERFORMANCES 1962 - 86
EVENTS: 25
WINS: 6
RUNNER-UP: 4
TOP-5'S: 15
TOP-10'S: 18 )

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