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Golf Talk Live - JoAnne Carner Transcript Segment 2

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PETER KESSLER
TELL ME ABOUT THE TICKER PARADE AFTER YOU WON THE NATIONAL JUNIOR.

JOANNE CARNER
OH I, I.... FLEW INTO SEATTLE AND THEY HAD A TICKER TAPE PARADE FROM THE AIRPORT THROUGH DOWNTOWN SEATTLE AND ACROSS THE LAKE WASHINGTON BRIDGE, WHICH IS A HUGE BRIDGE AND,

OVER INTO MY HOMETOWN, BUT IT WAS JUST UNBELIEVABLE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, JUST A YOUNGSTER AND, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M JUST OUT PLAYING ON MY OWN OUT THERE, NOT REALIZING THAT AT HOME EVERYBODY IN THE AREA WAS AWARE OF WHAT I WAS DOING.

PETER KESSLER
NOW WERE YOU SITTING IN THE BACK OF A CONVERTIBLE WAVING TO EVERYBODY?

JOANNE CARNER
OH YEAH. YEAH.

PETER KESSLER
FAMILY IN THE CAR?

JOANNE CARNER
JUST, JUST AS IF YOU WERE IN NEW YORK CITY, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TICKER TAPE PARADE.

PETER KESSLER
LIKE BOBBY JONES AND BEN HOGAN.

JOANNE CARNER
YEAH. YEAH.

PETER KESSLER
WOULD YOU SAY THAT THE BIGGEST THRILL EVER WAS WINNING THE FIRST NATIONAL AMATEUR?

JOANNE CARNER
UH... YES, IT, WELL... IT, YOU, YOU KIND OF GET ON STAGES. YOU WIN AMATEURS AND, AND THE FIRST ONE OF COURSE IS, IS VERY THRILLING, BUT, THEN EACH ONE GOT MORE IMPRESSIVE, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU DO IT AGAIN?

CAN YOU REPEAT? ARE YOU GOOD ENOUGH TO REPEAT, YOU KNOW.

PETER KESSLER
IS THAT WHEN YOU STARTED TO, IF YOU DID AT ALL, A SENSE OF SELF IMPOSED PRESSURE TO KEEP DOING AS WELL AS YOU HAD BEEN? DID YOU FEEL SOMETHING INSIDE THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE WERE EXPECTATIONS OF OTHERS UPON YOU AND YOU FELT THE WEIGHT OF THAT TOO?

JOANNE CARNER
OH I REMEMBER COMING BACK ONE YEAR AND EVERYBODY SAID, OH TOO BAD, TOO BAD. WELL I, I WAS RUNNER UP, LIKE IN... FIVE GOLF TOURNAMENTS. WELL I NEVER PLAYED THAT MANY GOLF TOURNAMENTS TO BEGIN WITH, BUT I WAS RUNNER UP LIKE IN EVERYTHING. MAYBE WON ONE,

MAYBE I DIDN'T. I DON'T REMEMBER BUT THEY ALL SAID I HAD A BAD YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND I SAID WELL IT CAN'T BE THAT

BAD, YOU KNOW, BUT, SO I REALIZED THAT THEY EXPECTED ME TO WIN AND I, I CAN'T SAY I WORKED AT IT ANY HARDER,
BUT I CONCENTRATED BETTER IS PROBABLY A BETTER DESCRIPTION.

PETER KESSLER
AS YOU WENT ALONG IN MATCH PLAY, HOW DID YOUR PHILOSOPHY ABOUT HOW TO PLAY MATCHES EVOLVE?

JOANNE CARNER
I THINK IT STARTED FROM THE, FROM THE PLAYING WITH THE KIDS, AT... AFTER SCHOOL AND YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE 12, 13, 14 ALL THE NEIGHBOR KIDS WOULD GET OUT AND PLAY AND, AND THEY'D BE YELLING IN YOUR EAR, AND SCREAMING AND LAUGHING AND TELLING JOKES AND ALL THIS, AND YOU, THE OBJECT WAS TO SEE IF YOU COULD BEAT ALL OF THEM,

YOU KNOW, SO, AND WE'D PLAY AS MANY HOLES AS WE COULD GET IN BEFORE DARK, BEFORE TOTAL DARKNESS, OR WE HAD TO GET HOME, AND SEE WHO HAD THE LOWEST SCORE, SO IT STARTS OUT

THAT WAY AND THEN IT JUST PROGRESSES I THINK TO WHERE YOU, YOU GET SO YOU LIKE IT. YOU KNOW YOU REALLY THRIVE ON IT.

PETER KESSLER
WHEN YOU WOULD LOOK AT AN OPPONENT TO TRY TO ANALYZE THEIR GAME OR THEIR WEAKNESSES OR A CHANGE IN HABITS DURING THE COURSE OF THE ROUND, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU'D LOOK FOR?

JOANNE CARNER
WELL I'D ALWAYS LOOK TO SEE HOW NERVOUS THEY WERE ON THE FIRST TEE, YOU KNOW, WERE THEIR TEETH, THEIR LIPS STICKING TO THEIR TEETH?

PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHS)

JOANNE CARNER
YOU KNOW, WERE THEIR, WAS THEIR PALMS SWEATY WHEN I WISHED THEM GOOD LUCK? YOU KNOW, HOW THEY TEED IT UP, WHETHER THEIR BALL'S A LITTLE SHAKY AND... AND I KNEW, AFTER A WHILE YOU GET SO YOU KNOW THE

PLAYERS LIKE, THERE WERE SEVERAL PLAYERS THAT I KNEW IF I OUT DROVE THEM ON THE FIRST HOLE, I HAD THEM. YOU KNOW I HAD TO HIT IT REALLY LONG AND REALLY STRAIGHT ON THE FIRST HOLE, AND THEN THEY'D, THEY'D LIKE GIVE UP, AND OTHER PLAYERS I KNEW I HAD TO SHOOT UNDER PAR TO BEAT THEM

BECAUSE THEY WERE JUST REALLY GOOD PLAYERS BUT THEY NEVER SOMEHOW MADE THAT EXTRA JUMP, YOU KNOW, THAT MADE THEM WIN. THEY WERE, THEY WERE GOOD ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, TO, TO WIN, BUT NEVER, NEVER DID IT.

PETER KESSLER
DID YOU FIND THAT SOMETIMES THAT YOU WOULD SORT OF LET UP WHEN YOU KNEW THAT YOU WERE WILDLY FAVORED OVER AN OPPONENT AND THEN LOOSE BECAUSE OF OVER CONFIDENCE?

JOANNE CARNER
UH YEAH WELL I, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S OVER CONFIDENCE, PETER, OR LACK OF ENTHUSIASM. YOU KNEW YOU COULD BEAT THE PERSON, AND, AND YOU, YOU WERE NEVER UP, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT INTENTIONAL, BUT, WHEN YOU REALLY HAVE AN EXCITING MATCH YOU WAKE UP IN THE MORNING READY TO GO, YOU

KNOW, AND IF THE MATCH, YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO WIN AND, YOU KNOW, I'D LOOSE SOMETIMES TO PEOPLE I COULD PLAY ONE HANDED AND BEAT BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST ME, I JUST COULDN'T
GET UP. I COULDN'T GET GOING.

PETER KESSLER
AS WE CHECK OUT FOR JUST A MINUTE WE, WE'RE GOING TO PUT, WE PUT A FEW ACHIEVEMENTS OF YOUR CAREER, WE COULD ONLY FIT A FEW ON THE LITTLE SPACE THAT WE'VE GOT SO WE SELECTED
A COUPLE AND LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THEM.

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