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Golf Talk Live - JoAnne Carner Transcript Segment 3

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PETER KESSLER
DO YOU THINK, AND I, I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY THAT YOU'RE THE FIRST WOMAN WHO EVER WENT TO COLLEGE ON A GOLF SCHOLARSHIP?

JOANNE CARNER
AS FAR AS I KNOW I WAS THE FIRST. SOME HAD GONE ON DIFFERENT SCHOLARSHIPS BUT THEY WERE NOT ACTUAL GOLF SCHOLARSHIPS AND I GOT THE FIRST ONE IN 1957 (LAUGHS).

PETER KESSLER
NOW THE NEXT YEAR WHEN YOU PLAYED IN THE WESTERN OPEN, DIDN'T FAY CROCKER AND MARILYN SMITH GIVE YOU THE BUSINESS PRETTY GOOD AFTER YOU SHOT A 72 IN THE OPENING ROUND?

JOANNE CARNER
OH... THEY PLAYED IN, THEY PLAYED IN SEATTLE AND SO I WAS OVER THERE AND... I SHOT 72 AND THEN I, I GO TO THE PRACTICE TEE THE NEXT MORNING BEFORE I PLAY AND HERE'S FAY CROCKER OVER UM YOU KNOW AND SHE'S TRYING TO RAZZLE ME, YOU KNOW. HOW MANY TIMES SHE THOUGHT SHE'D CLUB BEFORE YOU TAKE IT AWAY AND ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS.... STUFF, BUT SEE WITH

ALL THE KIDS THAT I GREW UP PLAYING, I, I WAS RAISED ON THAT SEE, SO I TURNED AROUND AND I SAID FAY, WHERE'S YOUR BAG? YOU KNOW, I SAID, SHE SAID, OH RIGHT DOWN THERE... AT THE END OF THE LINE AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT YOU BUT I'VE NEVER

SEEN YOU PLAY. I SAID COULD I SEE YOU SWING SOME? (LAUGHS) YOU KNOW, AND I WENT DOWN THERE, AND I GAVE IT TO HER (LAUGHING). I RAZZED HER, YOU KNOW, PUT THAT NEEDLE IN THERE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE SHOT THAT DAY BUT IT WAS A LOT (LAUGHS)

PETER KESSLER
MORE THAN 72.

JOANNE CARNER
YEAH SO THEN FROM THEN ON, I, I WARMED UP AT MY HOME COURSE, THE LITTLE NINE HOLE COURSE AND THEN I'D HOP IN THE CAR AND DRIVE THE HOUR OR SO OVER TO THE GOLF COURSE AND GET THERE AND GO TO THE PUTTING GREEN AND THEY SAID WELL AREN'T YOU GOING TO HIT BALLS, I SAID NO (LAUGHS) SO

THEY, THEY DIDN'T KNOW I HAD WARMED UP, YOU KNOW FOR AN HOUR PREVIOUS TO DRIVING OVER THERE, BUT, SO I WAS GETTING TO THEM.

PETER KESSLER
WHEN YOU WERE IN COLLEGE, DID YOU GO TO CLASSES? WERE YOU A GOOD STUDENT?

JOANNE CARNER
I WAS A VERY GOOD STUDENT.

PETER KESSLER
YOU WERE.

JOANNE CARNER
NOT SMART, YOU KNOW, I MEAN I HAD A PRETTY GOOD AVERAGE, BUT UH, I ALSO WORKED... AND SO I, I PUT IN A LOT OF HOURS AND, AND, AND WANTED TO COMPLETE IN FOUR YEARS BECAUSE ALL

THE AMATEURS IN MY TIME TOOK FIVE YEARS. THEY PLAYED THE, THE WINNERS CIRCUIT AND TAKE A QUARTER OFF AND GO PLAY THAT, SO THEY'D GRADUATE IN FIVE YEARS AND I SAID I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. I WANT TO GO THROUGH IN FOUR, SO I TOOK A HEAVY LOAD PLUS WORKED AND FINALLY MY,

THE SECOND HALF OF MY SENIOR YEAR I REALLY HAD A VERY, VERY EASY SCHEDULE. I ONLY HAD LIKE TEN HOURS TO GO TO GRADUATE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

PETER KESSLER
HOW DID YOU MEET YOUR LATE HUSBAND, DON?

JOANNE CARNER
WELL I MET HIM MY SENIOR YEAR AT THE, MIAMI... THEY USED TO PLAY A TOURNAMENT CALLED THE TRIANGLE MIXED AND, AND THEY TOOK THE TOP WOMEN AMATEURS AND, AND MEN AMATEURS AND THEY PAIRED THEM UP AND YOU, AND YOU PLAYED THEM, ALTERNATE SHOT TOURNAMENT AND UH SO THE PRO THAT PUT THE TEAMS

TOGETHER AND WHAT NOT, EDDIE BUSH UH... MY HUSBAND, DON, WAS A MEMBER OF HIS CLUB DOWN IN FLORIDA, SO, HE SAID, AND DON WAS A THREE HANDICAP OUT OF RHODE ISLAND AND HE SAID WELL, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT THIS PLAYER.

WOULD YOU PLAY WITH HER AND HE SAID SURE, YOU KNOW, SO.. CALLED ME UP AND I SAID YEAH, I'VE, I'VE, YOU KNOW, ONLY HAVE TEN HOURS OF CLASSES TO, TO GO THIS, THIS LAST SEMESTER, SO IT'S FINE, I CAN TAKE TIME OFF... FLY DOWN THERE AND, AND PLAY, SO WE DID, AND THAT'S WHEN I FIRST MET HIM.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT WAS THE SECRET TO THE SUCCESS OF YOUR GREAT RELATIONSHIP?

JOANNE CARNER
UM... WE DID EVERYTHING TOGETHER. DON WAS POSSESSIVE SORT OF. HE UH... YOU KNOW, WANTED TO BE AWARE OF EVERYTHING AND BE A PART OF EVERYTHING AND I KNEW THAT AND I WAS VERY HAPPY IF I WAS JUST WITH DON. I MEAN I COULD, I COULD GO ANYWHERE

AND I'D BE HAPPY AS A CLAM IF I WERE JUST WITH DON, SO BEING TOGETHER WAS WONDERFUL FOR BOTH OF US, YOU KNOW, IT MADE HIM HAPPY AND IT MADE ME HAPPY SO, SO WE CLICKED. WE USED TO GET LECTURES THERE, OR I'D GET LECTURES ALL THE TIME. YOU GOT TO TAKE A SEPARATE VACATION, YOUR MARRIAGE WON'T LAST, YOU KNOW, AND

WE LASTED 34 YEARS UNTIL DON PASSED AWAY LAST YEAR, SO WE HAD A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL TIME AND UH WE, WE ENJOYED ONE ANOTHER THOROUGHLY.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT WERE HIS GREATEST TRAITS?

JOANNE CARNER
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UM... HE HAD MANY. FIRST OF ALL HE WAS FINANCIALLY GOOD, AND THAT

PETER KESSLER
AND THAT WAS TRUE WHEN YOU MET HIM.

JOANNE CARNER
UH YES, YES. HE HAD FIVE VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES THAT HE HAD RUN AND, BUT HE'D HAD LIKE 32 JOBS IN HIS LIFE OR, OR BUSINESSES OF SOME SORT THAT HE HAD HAD ALL HIS LIFE SO HE, HE KNEW A LOT ABOUT EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, SO BUT HE WAS, HE WAS A GOOD...

CONSERVATIVE BUSINESS MAN, YOU KNOW, NEW ENGLAND STYLE WHERE UH, SO HE DID ALL THE INVESTING AND EVERYTHING AND I... PLAYED GOLF.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT YOU LIKED ABOUT HIM APART FROM THE BUSINESS. SENSE OF HUMOR?

JOANNE CARNER
OH HE WOULD, HE WOULD BE HARD ON ME, YOU KNOW, AND, AND OF COURSE I, I ALWAYS TELL THE STORY OF, I WON THE PETER JACKSON, WHICH, BECAME THE CANADIAN OPEN FOR US, FOR THE WOMEN

UM, AND I SHOT 64 THE LAST DAY, I'D COME FROM 8 SHOTS BACK OR SOMETHING TO WIN THE TOURNAMENT AND HE COMES OUT ON THE 18TH GREEN TO KISS ME CONGRATULATIONS AND BEFORE HE EVEN DOES THAT HE SAYS YOU KNOW YOU'RE

STANDING HOOKED, AND I SAID, WELL (LAUGHING) IS IT ALL RIGHT IF I CELEBRATE THE WIN FIRST AND HE SAID WELL BUT YOU GOT TO PLAY NEXT WEEK, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S THE WAY DON

WAS, AND HE'D, HE'D YOU KNOW, STAY ON TOP OF YOU WHICH KEPT ME SHARP BUT JUST ABOUT THE TIME YOU WERE READY TO BEAN HIM HE'D SAY, OKAY WE'VE HAD ENOUGH, WE'RE GOING OUT PARTYING,

WE'RE GOING OUT DANCING, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE A GOOD TIME, YOU KNOW, AND NEVER TALKED GOLF OR ANYTHING, SO, AND WHEN WE'D GO ON VACATIONS, ALL THE VACATIONS WERE WHATEVER DON WANTED TO DO BECAUSE

HE GAVE UP EVERYTHING FOR ME TO PLAY THE TOUR SO I SAID ALRIGHT, WHEN WE'RE OFF, YOU DECIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND WHERE WE'RE GOING AND ALL THIS, SO, SO YOU KNOW, AND, MOST OF THE TIME IT WAS NEVER GOLF ORIENTED.

PETER KESSLER
WE'LL TAKE A LITTLE BREAK, JOANNE, AND AS WE LEAVE WE'LL JUST TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT YOU DID UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE USGA. MOST WINS, JONES, CARNER, NICKLAUS, WOODS, VARE. NICE GROUP.


JOANNE CARNER
GREAT GROUP.

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