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Golf Talk Live - JoAnne Carner Transcript Segment 6

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PETER KESSLER
TOM IN FLORIDA, HOW ARE YOU TONIGHT, SIR?

TOM, CALLER FROM FLORIDA (MALE):
HELLO.

PETER KESSLER
HELLO TOM.

JOANNE CARNER
HI TOM.

TOM, CALLER FROM FLORIDA (MALE):
HOW ARE YOU?

PETER KESSLER
VERY WELL, SIR.

TOM, CALLER FROM FLORIDA (MALE):
PETER, ANOTHER GOOD SHOW.

PETER KESSLER
THANK YOU.

TOM, CALLER FROM FLORIDA (MALE):
I WANTED TO ASK JOANNE, JOANNE AND I PLAYED IN THE 1979 JC PENNY PRO-AM WITH LEE TREVINO AND TIP O'NEAL.

JOANNE CARNER
(LAUGHS)

TOM, CALLER FROM FLORIDA (MALE):
AND THEN, AND THEN THREE YEARS LATER SHE WON IT WITH JOHN MAHAFFEY.

JOANNE CARNER
RIGHT.

TOM, CALLER FROM FLORIDA (MALE):
AND EVERY YEAR WE PLAYED, WE HAD A DOLLAR BET, PETER, IN PRO-AMS WE WERE AGAINST EACH OTHER, AND SHE, AND I NEVER BEAT HER, BY THE WAY, BUT I'D LIKE TO ASK HER HOW SHE LIKED THE MIXED TEAM FORMAT AS AGAINST PLAYING BY HERSELF ON THE, WITH THE, ON THE LPGA TOUR.

JOANNE CARNER
WELL I THINK... IT WAS HARD, TOM. AS YOU KNOW, I THINK JUDY DICKINSON DESCRIBED IT CORRECTLY WHEN SHE SAID THIS IS GOLF 101. (LAUGHING) SHE SAID, YOU GET OUT

THERE AND YOU'RE PLAYING AND YOU'RE... TRYING TO PUT EVERYTHING IN A PERFECT POSITION FOR YOUR PARTNER, AND YOU, AND YOU JUST TRY SO HARD THAT YOU PLAY TERRIBLE, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ABOVE THE PIN ON THIS HOLE AND YOU HIT IT ABOVE THE PIN. YOU WANT, IF YOU MISS THE

BALL YOU WANT TO MISS IT ON THE LEFT SIDE AND YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THIS AND IT'S JUST AN EXTREMELY HARD FORMAT AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DIFFERENCE I FOUND WITH THE MEN OVER THERE IS I LIKE TO PLAY LITTLE SHORT WEDGE SHOTS AND

AS YOU KNOW, TOM, WHEN, WHEN WE WERE OVER THERE, THEY, THEY HATED THOSE LITTLE SHORT SHOTS, YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM, THEY USED TO TELL ME, LAY ME UP 110 TO 130 AND I'D SAY BUT I CAN,
I CAN GET EITHER ON THE PAR 5 IN TWO

OR IN THE BUNKER, YOU KNOW, AND THEY SAID NO, LAY ME UP, 130 TO 110 AND I'M SAYING, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS BECAUSE A BAD BUNKER SHOT IS TEN FEET, YOU KNOW, AND A VERY GOOD 130 YARD SHOT IS TEN FEET SO IT NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME BUT I, I DID WHAT THEY WANTED.

PETER KESSLER
I KNOW THAT IT TOOK YOU ABOUT FOUR YEARS BEFORE YOU BECAME THE BEST PLAYER ON TOUR, WHICH, WHICH YOU OF COURSE THOUGHT WOULD TAKE FOUR MINUTES, TELL ME HOW FORMER YANKEE MANAGER, YANKEE GREAT, BILLY MARTIN, SORT OF SHOOK UP AND HELPED YOU WITH YOUR ATTITUDE.

JOANNE CARNER
OH BILLY WAS, HE BECAME A VERY GOOD FRIEND BUT WE HAD A MUTUAL FRIEND THAT INVITED US OVER TO DINNER. IT WAS RIGHT NEAR THE CLUBHOUSE THERE AT PALM BEACH NATIONAL AND, SO WHEN WE GOT THERE BILLY MARTIN WAS THERE AND HE WAS UP THERE, HE WANTED TO

GET AWAY FROM, FROM THE DECISION MAKING OF THE END OF SPRING TRAINING WHEN HE HAD TO CUT CERTAIN PLAYERS AND HE HAD TO DO IT THE NEXT DAY AND HE WANTED TO GET AWAY FROM THAT, SO, HE CAME UP TO HAVE DINNER WITH THEM, AND, AND DON AND I WERE INVITED OVER TO JOIN THEM, SO WHEN WE WERE SITTING AROUND THE DINNER TABLE, DON

SAID, YOU KNOW BILLY, YOU'RE SUCH A GREAT MANAGER OF PEOPLE, PERSONALITIES HE SAID, JOANNE IS, IS JUST PLAYING TERRIBLE RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, AND, MAYBE YOU COULD HELP HER OUT, AND SO HE TURNED TO ME AND HE SAID, WHAT ARE YOU DOING, AND I SAID

WELL I HAVE, WHAT WE REFER TO AS ANALYSIS PARALYSIS. YOU'RE THINKING HOW TO DO EVERYTHING AND CONSEQUENTLY YOU, YOU'RE SO MECHANICAL YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING PROPERLY, SO HE SAID EXPLAIN TO ME YOUR DAY, AND UM.. SO, WELL, BUT

PREVIOUS TO THAT, DON STARTED SAYING NOW, JOANNE WON THIS AND, AND SHE'S THIS AND BILLY MARTIN SAID WELL DON, WHAT'S SHE DOING NOW? AND HE SAID, WELL SHE'S PLAYING TERRIBLE. SHE'S SHOOTING 80, AND HE SAID, WELL THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. WHAT SHE'S

DOING NOW NOT WHAT SHE USED TO DO, YOU KNOW. HE SAID LET'S DEAL WITH TODAY, SO HE SAID WHAT'S, WHAT DO YOU DO? WHAT'S YOUR NORMAL DAY, AND I SAID WELL I GET TO THE GOLF COURSE TWO HOURS AHEAD, I HAVE SOME COFFEE, CIGARETTES AND THEN I UH GO

TO THE PRACTICE TEE ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF AHEAD AND I HIT BALLS ON THE RANGE. HE SAID HOW LONG? AND I SAID I HIT BALLS FOR AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, AND THEN I GO TO THE PUTTING GREEN AND I CHIP A FEW BALLS AND THEN I PUTT AND THEN I GO TEE OFF AND HE SAID, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE

HITTING BALLS FOR THAT HOUR BEFORE YOU GO TO THE PUTTING GREEN HE SAID, ARE YOU, ARE YOU WORKING ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING? AND I SAID OH YEAH. I SAID IF I'M SLICING I'M TRYING TO CORRECT THE SLICE. IF I'M HOOKING, OR

THE TIMINGS OFF, YOU KNOW, I SAID I'M, I'M, HE SAID IN OTHER WORDS YOU'RE WATCHING EVERY BALL YOU HIT? AND I SAID YEAH. HE SAID AND THEN YOU WANT TO GO TO THE FIRST TEE AND SHUT IT OFF WHEN YOU JUST SPENT AN HOUR TRAINING YOURSELF TO ANALYZE EVERY

SINGLE BALL YOU HIT AND I SAID, WELL, WHEN YOU PUT IT THAT WAY (CHUCKLES) I SAID, IT DOES SOUND PRETTY STUPID. HE SAID, I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER WARM
UP IS WARM UP AND THAT'S IT. HE SAID

JUST LOOSEN UP, GO TO THE, TO THE PUTTING GREEN AND HIT A FEW PUTTS, HIT A FEW CHIPS AND THEN TEE OFF. HE SAID NOW WHEN YOU FINISH, HE SAID, YOU DON'T LEAVE THE DRIVING RANGE, AND EVEN IF YOU

HAVE TO GO TO A LIGHTED DRIVING RANGE TO FINISH, YOU DON'T LEAVE UNTIL YOU GET IT CORRECTED. HE SAID THAT'S WHEN YOU DO YOUR CORRECTION.

PETER KESSLER
THAT WORKED DIDN'T IT?

JOANNE CARNER
YEAH. GOT ME RIGHT OUT OF THE SLUMP.

PETER KESSLER
WE'LL BE BACK TO SPEND A FEW MORE MINUTES WITH JOANNE CARNER.

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