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Golf Talk Live - Johnny Bulla Transcript Segment 6

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PETER KESSLER
 
HOW DO YOU RATE YOURSELF AS A TEACHER, JOHNNY?
 
JOHNNY BULLA
 
THEY DON'T LET ME, BEFORE I ANSWER THAT, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. THERE'S THOUSANDS OF GOLF PROTIFS (?) OVER THE COUNTRY THAT TEACH. THEY ALL TEACH A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, AND THEY ALL HAVE AN IDEA THAT THEY HAVE THE ANSWERS. WHEN BEMAN WAS
 
ON YOUR SHOW A FEW MONTHS AGO HE MADE A REMARK THAT'S VERY DISTURBING TO ME. HE SAID THAT ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL GOLF FOUNDATION, THERE ARE TWO MILLION PEOPLE THAT TAKE UP GOLF EVERY YEAR
 
AND ABOUT TWO MILLION THAT QUIT IN DISGUST. NOW THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG. THE GAME'S NOT THAT HARD OR THE TEACHING IS, IS... PROBABLY FOULED IN THE FACT THAT THEY TEACH TOO MUCH MECHANICS AND NOT ENOUGH FEEL. NOW
 
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I'M A GREAT TEACHER, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY. EVERY TIME A PUPIL COMES TO ME AND TAKES A LESSON THEY, THEY NEVER COME BACK FOR THE SECOND ONE.
 
PETER KESSLER
 
WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO IMPART THAT PEOPLE CAN TAKE AWAY AND BUILD THEIR GAME AROUND?
 
JOHNNY BULLA
 
FEEL. FEEL. SWINGING THE CLUB. FEEL.
 
PETER KESSLER
 
WHAT IS IT YOU TELL PLAYERS ABOUT THAT?
 
JOHNNY BULLA
 
WELL I, I TRY TO TELL THEM THAT, SWING THE CLUB AND, AND GET THE FEEL OF SWINGING THE CLUB AND THEN YOUR BODY WILL REACT TO IT. SURE, YOU DO THINGS WITH YOUR BODY, BUT IF YOU DON'T FEEL WHERE THE CLUB IS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH IT. LET ME TELL YOU
 
A STORY. I WAS PLAYING WITH BOBBY JONES AT EASTLAKE DURING THE WAR, AND, THAT'S WHEN I WAS FLYING WITH EASTERN, AND I THINK IT WAS THE 15TH HOLE'S A PAR 5 AT EASTLAKE AND HE HIT HIS SECOND SHOT, AND HE WAS ONE OF
 
THE WORLD'S GREATEST WITH TWO SHOTS, TWO WOODS. HE HIT THIS BALL OFF TO THE RIGHT, A LOW SLICE, THAT A DUFFER WOULD HAVE BEEN DISGUSTED WITH, IT WENT IN THE TREES AND I SAID BOB, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING ABOUT?
 
HE SAYS MY FEET DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT. I DIDN'T FEEL RIGHT TO ME. I SAID LET ME SHOW YOU SOMETHING. I WENT IN MY BAG, PULLED OUT THREE BALLS AND I DROPPED THEM DOWN, AND I SAYS NOW COUNT, SLOWLY, ONE, TWO, THREE AND HIT THEM. HE KNOCKED ALL THREE OF THEM ON THE GREEN. I SAID BOB, YOU
 
AND I KNOW THAT WE GET TO CONSCIOUS OF A CERTAIN PART OF OUR PHYSICAL ANATOMY. WE FORGET TO HIT THE BALL. HE SAYS YOU'RE RIGHT.
 
PETER KESSLER
 
SO WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS, THAT IF YOU JUST CONCENTRATE ON WHAT YOUR HANDS AND ARMS ARE DOING WITH THE CLUB THAT THE REST OF THE BODY WILL FALL INTO PLACE WHEN IT NEEDS TO.
 
JOHNNY BULLA
 
WELL, IT, IT DOESN'T COMPLETELY, BUT IF YOU SWING THE CLUB, YOUR BODY ACCOMMODATES IT, NORMALLY. YOU DON'T SWING WITH YOUR HANDS AND ARMS, YOU SWING THE CLUB AND EVERYTHING GOES TOGETHER. IF I WAS
 
GOING TO DO MY ARMS, HERE, THE SWING, MY BODY MOVES WITH IT. I DON'T DO THIS. I LET MY BODY MOVE WITH IT, AND IT'S FEEL. PEOPLE LEARN TO WALK. YOU DON'T LEARN TO WALK BY KNOWING ALL THE STEPS AND HOW MANY MUSCLES YOU'RE USING. YOU LEARN TO WALK BY FEEL.
 
PETER KESSLER
 
WHO WAS THE BEST PLAYER YOU EVER SAW THAT YOU WERE ACTUALLY PLAYING WITH AT THE TIME? WHAT WAS THE BEST ROUND OF GOLF THAT YOU EVER SAW?... WHEN YOU WERE IN THE GROUP.
 
JOHNNY BULLA
 
BOY THAT'S A HARD QUESTION. I'VE SEEN SO MANY GREAT ROUNDS.
 
PETER KESSLER
 
TELL ME ABOUT A COUPLE OF THEM.
 
JOHNNY BULLA
 
WELL, UH... I SAW LOYD MANGRUM PLAY A GREAT ROUND THE LAST ROUND AT MERRIAN WHEN HE TIED FOR THE OPEN, PLAYED A GREAT ROUND. I SAW HOGAN PLAY A GREAT ROUND AT RIVIERA FOR THE FIRST 36 HOLES, RIGHT AFTER HE CAME BACK FROM HIS ACCIDENT. AS A
 
MATTER OF FACT, HOGAN'S GOLF SWING WAS SO MUCH BETTER AFTER THE, AFTER THE ACCIDENT THAN IT WAS BEFORE BECAUSE HE HURT HIS HIP AND HE COULDN'T SWAY LIKE HE USED TO. IN THE, IN THE BEGINNING, HOGAN WAS ALWAYS GOOD FOR TWO OR THREE DUCK
 
HOOKS, A ROUND. HE'D MANAGED TO SCRAMBLE OUT OF IT A LOT OF TIMES, BUT HE REALLY GOT TO BE A GREAT BALL STRIKER, AFTER THAT ACCIDENT, IN THE 50'S WHEN HE WAS THE BEST.
 
PETER KESSLER
 
WHAT DO YOU SUPPOSE IS THE BIGGEST CHANGE IN THE GAME SINCE THE TIME THAT YOU JOINED THE TOUR THROUGH TO TODAY?
 
JOHNNY BULLA
 
WELL I THINK THE BIGGEST THING IS THE SHORT GAME. I THINK THE BIGGEST CHANGE IN, IN EQUIPMENT IN GOLF, I THINK THE GOLF BALL IS THE BIGGEST THING. I REALLY THINK THAT, THAT'S
 
HAD MORE TO DO WITH THE LOW SCORES THAN ANY OTHER ONE THING.
 
PETER KESSLER
 
DID YOU, RELATIVE TO TODAY'S PLAYERS, SPEND THE KIND OF TIME THAT THE GUYS DO TODAY PRACTICING THEIR SHORT GAME?
 
JOHNNY BULLA
 
WELL, I SPENT ENOUGH TIME HITTING GOLF BALLS. I HIT MORE GOLF BALLS THAN ANYBODY. I HIT MORE THAN HOGAN BUT I DIDN'T HIT ENOUGH ON THE PUTTING GREEN.
 
PETER KESSLER
 
YOU HIT MORE THAN HOGAN.
 
JOHNNY BULLA
 
OH YES, I HIT A LOT MORE GOLF BALLS THAN HOGAN. I DIDN'T HAVE THE REPUTATION, BUT I, NOBODY HIT MORE GOLF BALLS THAN I HIT.
 
PETER KESSLER
 
WHAT WERE YOU LOOKING FOR THAT YOU COULDN'T FIND?
 
JOHNNY BULLA
 
I JUST WANTED TO, I JUST WANTED TO, TO PERFECT MY SWING. I WAS A GOOD DRIVER. I WAS A STRAIGHT DRIVER. I HAD MORE PEOPLE, MORE PROS TO TELL ME IF SAM COULD HAVE HIT THE BALL AS STRAIGHT AS I DID IN THE OPENS THAT HE'D HAVE WON FIVE OR SIX. I COULDN'T HIT IT AS FAR AS HE COULD BUT
 
I COULD HIT IT A LOT STRAIGHTER, BUT IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE OF PRACTICE. SAM TOLD ME, AND I, I GUESS JAY AVREVER (??), SEVERAL OF THEM TOLD ME THAT THE BEST PART OF MY GAME WAS MY ONE IRON.
 
PETER KESSLER
 
NOW, THE, WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS HEARD ABOUT SAM OF COURSE, WHICH IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US TONIGHT IS THAT HE WAS SUCH A BRILLIANT DRIVER OF THE GOLF BALL AND SUCH A STRAIGHT HITTER OF THE GOLF BALL AND THAT HIS SHORT GAME
 
WAS OKAY, BUT IT WAS REALLY THE OPPOSITE BEING TRUE, WASN'T IT?
 
JOHNNY BULLA
 
OH HE HAD THE GREATEST FEEL AROUND THE GREENS YOU'VE EVER SEEN. NOT JUST PUTTING, BUT EVERYTHING, THE CHIP AND SAND TRAP, EVERYTHING, HE WAS, HE HAD A GREAT FEEL, FOR GOLF, AND DON'T TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME, HE WAS A, HE
 
WAS A GOOD DRIVER. THE TIGHTER THE GOLF COURSE GOT (LAUGHS) THE CROOKEDIER HE GOT.
 
PETER KESSLER
 
(LAUGHS)
 
AND HE SAID THE TIGHTER IT GOT THE BIGGER TURN HE WOULD MAKE BECAUSE HE'D ACTUALLY HIT THE BALL EVEN STRAIGHTER.
 
JOHNNY BULLA
 
NO THAT'S NOT SO.
 
PETER KESSLER
 
JUST THE WAY HE'D LIKE TO REMEMBER IT.
 
JOHNNY BULLA
 
THAT'S THE WAY, WELL THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO REMEMBER IT. I REMEMBER IT ANOTHER WAY.
 
PETER KESSLER
 
WE'LL SPEND A COUPLE MORE MINUTES WITH JOHNNY. DON'T GO AWAY.
 
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