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Golf Talk Live - Payne Stewart Transcript Segment 3

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PETER KESSLER

YOU WANT TO TELL US ABOUT THIS THE 12TH HOLE?

PAYNE STEWART

WELL IT WAS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE FEW FAIRWAYS I HIT ALL DAY LONG. UNTIL I GOT UP THERE I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THEY RECENTLY ADDED A BUNKER TO THE GOLF COURSE, ONE OF THE FEW FAIRWAY BUNKERS THAT EXISTS OUT THERE.

PETER KESSLER

VERY SMALL FAIRWAY BUNKER.

PAYNE STEWART

IT WAS A VERY SMALL FAIRWAY BUNKER AND YOU KNOW , THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THIS. REALLY, I'VE NEVER I HAVE NOT WATCHED THE US OPEN HIGH

LIGHTS FROM THIS AND RIGHT HERE I WENT BACK AND GOT A 9 IRON, AND I PLAYED A BAD SHOT. YOU KNOW THIS, THIS WAS A BAD SHOT. I'M TRYING TO HIT IT AT THE LEFT FRONT OF THE GREEN AND CAME UP OUT OF IT. IT'S KIND OF SLOPING AWAY AND I HIT A BAD SHOT AND RIGHT

THEN, RIGHT AFTER I FINISHED RIGHT NOW TOM MINKS, THE USGA PRESIDENT CAME UP TO ME AND SAID THAT'S A BAD TIME AND I SAID WHAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S A BAD TIME. HE SAID THAT'S YOUR FIRST BAD TIME. I SAID OH REALLY, AND SO I SAID WELL WHAT HAPPENS IF I GET ANOTHER BAD TIME. HE SAID THAT WILL
BE A 1 SHOT PENALTY BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE OUT OF POSITION. I WAS FLABBERGASTED, I WAS ABSOLUTELY

FLABBERGASTED. I'M IN THE LAST GROUP OF THE US OPEN, YOU KNOW NOW GRANTED YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S MEDIA AND ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE TO CATER TO GET IN BEFORE YOU EVEN PLAY EACH SHOT. YOU GET TO A TEE BOX YOUR READY TO PLAY

HERE COMES ALL THE MEDIA, YOU KNOW ALL THE GUYS WHO WANT TO TAKE PICTURES, ALL THE WALKING MEDIA, SO YOU GOT TO WAIT FOR THEM YOU KNOW NOW. APPARENTLY I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT TOM LEHMAN WAS PRACTICE PUTTING ON EVERY GREEN ON THE FRONT 9 TO MY IGNORANCE I DIDN'T KNOW

THAT WE WERE ALOUD TO PRACTICE PUTT. SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF MY IGNORANCE BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT

YOU KNOW, TO COME UP IN THAT SITUATION. RIGHT AFTER I PLAYED THIS SHOT INTO THE BUNKER UP BY THE GREEN IT WAS A HORRIBLE SHOT AND I'M TRYING TO WIN THE GOLF TOURNAMENT. HE GOES THAT'S YOUR FIRST BAD TIME, AND I, I GOT UP IN THE BUNKER MY CADDIES GOING NOW JUST SLOW DOWN, SLOW DOWN

YOUR ALL RIGHT, JUST SLOW DOWN. YOU KNOW I GET UP THERE AND HIT IT AND MAKE BOGEY AND THEN IT REALLY AFFECTED ME ON THE NEXT HOLE. I DID RUSH MY TEE SHOT ON 13. IF HAD THOUGHT ABOUT IT A LITTLE LONGER, I THINK I'D HIT IT, I'D HIT THE 6 IRON INSTEAD OF THE 5 IRON BUT IN THAT
SITUATION WENT AHEAD AND HIT THE 5, IT WAS A GOOD LOOKING SHOT, I MEAN IT WENT RIGHT OVER THE PEN BUT AS HARD

AS THAT GREEN WAS IT WAS A 6 IRON SHOT. AND TOM LEHMAN TOOK FOREVER ON THAT TEE, AND I'M LOOKING OVER AT MINKS GOING YOU KNOW LIKE THIS WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. SO SOON AS WE WALK OFF THE TEE, HE COMES UP AND TELLS TOM LEHMAN. THAT'S YOUR FIRST

BAD TIME. WELL NOW I THINK THAT THE RULES OF GOLF ARE YOU HAVE TO ABIDE BY THEM. BUT I THINK IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THERE HAS TO BE LENIENCY GIVEN ESPECIALLY IN A SITUATION SETS THAT WERE IN. THAT ALL THE GALLERY, ALL THE PEOPLE YOU

KNOW IT HAPPEN TO TIGER AND I AT DISNEY A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN TIGER WON THE GOLF TOURNAMENT.

WERE WALKING OFF THE 15TH TEE AND MARK RUSSELL ONE OF THE PGA OFFICIALS COMES UP TO US. YOU GUYS ARE OUT OF POSITION, I'VE GOT TO PUT YOU ON THE CLOCK. I'M GOING ALL THE GALLERY'S FOLLOWING OUR GROUP, WE GOT TO WAIT FOR THEM TO GET OUT OF

THE WAY AND GET SETTLED BEFORE WE CAN PLAY. THERE'S CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES THE RULES OF GOLF HAVE TO BE BENT A LITTLE BIT NOT BROKEN BUT JUST BENT, AND THAT'S MY OPINION. NOW I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WOULD BELIEVE THAT , BUT THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE.



PETER KESSLER

WELL SOMETIMES THE USGA DOES THAT.
FOR EXAMPLE JUST A MONTH LATER WHEN SYRIA POCK WAS BEATING JENNY JESERIPORN.

PAYNE STEWART

DID SHE TAKE FOR AN HOUR PLAYING THAT SHOT OUT OF THE WATER, OR WAS IT 15 MINUTES.

PETER KESSLER

SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 8 AND 15 MINUTES, YEAH

PAYNE STEWART

YEAH, WELL THERE YOU GO. DID SHE GET A BAD TIME, I DON'T THINK TOM MINKS WALKED UP TO HER AND SAID.


PETER KESSLER

WELL SHE GOT A HORRIBLE TIME IT'S JUST NOBODY SAID ANYTHING TO HER.

PAYNE STEWART

YEAH, WELL SEE

PETER KESSLER

AND THE SITUATIONS ARE THE SAME, AREN'T THEY REALLY.

PAYNE STEWART
WE FINISHED, AND THE NETWORK TELEVISION HAD 15 MINUTES OF FILL.

YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW HOW THAT WORKS, THEY DON'T REALLY PARTICULARLY LIKE TO HAVE 15 MINUTES OF FILL. SO I, NEXT TIME I SEE TOM MINKS, WERE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE CHAT.

PETER KESSLER

NOW DEEP IN YOUR HEART, NOW THAT A FEW MONTHS HAD GONE BY IS A SAND FILLED DIVOT GROUND UNDER REPAIR?

PAYNE STEWART

DEFINITELY, IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN IN MY MIND. IN MY OPINION IF THERE GOING TO MAKE A CONSCIENCE EFFORT, TO REPAIR AN AREA. WHETHER IT BE A DIVOT IN THE FAIRWAY OR WHETHER IT BE A TEE BOX, OR WHETHER IT BE A PIECE OF SOD. THEY'VE TAKE A CONSCIENCE EFFORT

TO REPAIR THE GOLF COURSE, THAT IS GROUND UNDER REPAIR, IN MY OPINION.

PETER KESSLER

BUT WHERE WOULD YOU, ULTIMATELY THOUGH. WHERE WOULD YOU DRAW THE LINE BETWEEN. A DIVOT HOLE THAT'S FILLED WITH SAND AND THE POINT AT WHICH IT'S FULLY REPAIRED, I MEAN YOU KNOW.

PAYNE STEWART

WELL IN, IN A TOURNAMENT SUCH AS THE US OPEN, OR THE MASTERS , OR THE BRITISH OPEN, OR AT ANY OF THE MAJORS. YOU HAVE A WALKING OFFICIAL WITH YOU. IN THAT, IN MY OPINION SINCE YOU

HAVE A WALKING OFFICIAL WITH YOU. YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO ASK HIM. DO YOU THINK THIS DEEMED GROUND UNDER REPAIR. BEING THAT THEY'VE CHOSEN TO SELECT TO FILL THESE DIVOTS IN. IT HAD BEEN MUCH BETTER IF THAT DIVOT HAD NOT BEEN SANDED BECAUSE THE GROUND GOT SO HARD OUT THERE. BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THE DEPTH OF THE

SAND AND YOUR NOT ALLOWED TO STICK YOUR FINGER IN THERE AND SAY WELL, THAT'S AN INCH DEEP. YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO HAVE TO PLAY A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THEN IT'S A QUARTER INCH. SO YOU KNOW YEAH, AND I'VE STOOD UP AT OUR MEETING AT HE TOUR AND TOLD

TIM FINCH WHY DON'T WE SHOW SOME INITIATIVE. TAKE AN INITIATIVE AND MAKE THE RULES AND SAY THAT'S GROUND UNDER REPAIR , OH WELL WE CAN'T DO THAT YOU KNOW SO. THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON IT FOLKS, YOU KNOW.

PETER KESSLER

THERE'S NO BEATING AROUND THE BUSH WITH YOU.

PAYNE STEWART

NO

PETER KESSLER

LETS SEE WHAT KEN IN IOWA WANTS TO ASK, HELLO KEN.

CALLER-KEN IN IOWA

HEY, GOOD EVENING GENTLEMAN

PETER KESSLER

NICE TO BE WITH YOU

PAYNE STEWART

GOOD EVENING

CALLER-KEN IN IOWA

THANKS FOR TAKING MY CALL. GREAT LEAD IN HERE TO MY QUESTION. I'VE WATCHED A LOT OF EVENTS OVER THE YEARS AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THIS GROWING THING WHERE VIEWERS BECOME OFFICIALS. MICRO ANALYZING THE GAME, AND PAYNE ELUDED TO IT YOU HAVE A

WALKING OFFICIAL, AT LEAST IN USGA EVENTS AND WHAT'S THEIR CALL WORTH AND HOW LONG IT WOULD SEEM RULES OF EQUITY AND STATUE OF LIMITATIONS WOULD AT SOME POINT AND TIME YOU DRAW THE LINE AND SAY HEY 2 YEARS
FROM NOW WERE NOT GOING TO CRITICIZE

MARK O'MEARA FOR MAYBE, MISMARKING HIS BALL I DON'T KNOW WHETHER HE DID OR DIDN'T. HOW ABOUT LEE JANZEN BEING DISQUALIFIED HERE RECENTLY. WHERE DOES THE OFFICIAL, WE HAVE USGA OFFICIALS AND WE HAVE A COUPLE MILLION VIEWERS OUT HERE CALLING THE SHOTS SO, YOUR COMMENTS MEN.

PAYNE STEWART

KEN I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH YOU THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT POINT YOU

BROUGHT UP I MEAN IF IN FACT MOST OF OUR TOURNAMENTS RIGHT NOW ON TOUR NOT AIRED ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY SO THE WORLD SERIES IS A SPECIAL TOURNAMENT AND IT'S AIRED ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. IF THAT HAD NOT BEEN AIRED JUST AS THE PAUL

AZINGER DOWN IN THE ROCKS AT DORAL HAD NOT BEEN AIRED ON THURSDAY, FRIDAY. THE PERSON AT HOME THAT CALLED IN AND SAID LEE JANZEN STOOD OVER THAT TOO LONG. OR PAUL AZINGER GROUNDED HIS CLUB IN THE HAZARD OR WHATEVER. THOSE WOULD NEVER

EXISTED, BEEN NEVER BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE OFFICIAL'S AND THE PENALTY WOULD OF GONE UNSEEN AND THEY WOULDN'T OF BEEN DISQUALIFIED.

IN THAT INSTANCE IT'S THE LACK OF OUR KNOWLEDGE AS PROFESSIONALS OF REALLY NOT KNOWING THE RULES BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS AND I, KEN I'M AS GUILTY AS THE NEXT PERSON, AND NOT KNOWING THE RULES BACK AND FORWARD. AND IF THEY GAVE US A RULES

TEST OUT ON TOUR I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD REALLY PASS IT.

PETER KESSLER

GARY PLAYER WAS IN A BUNKER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND NOBODY KNOWS THE RULES LIKE HE DOES, I THINK AND HE UNCOVERS SOME SAND TO FIND A GOLF BALL SEES A GOLF BALL, HITS THE SHOT OF COURSE HE'S PENALIZED BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO COVER UP THE GOLF BALL WITH SAND AGAIN.

PAYNE STEWART

SEE I WOULDN'T, WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE. I'VE BEEN GUILTY OF IT WASN'T MY BALL, IT WAS ANOTHER PLAYER IN OUT GROUPS BALL AND WERE SEARCHING IN THE BUNKER TRYING TO FIND IT. YOU KNOW SO, WE FINALLY UNCOVER IT , WELL WE FOUND IT OKAY YOU SEE A DIMPLE,

OKAY THERE'S THE GOLF BALL, YOU KNOW I DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD TO COVER IT BACK UP. SEE LIKE I'M SAYING IF YOU GAVE US A RULES TEST WE'D FLUNK. YOU KNOW AND IT WOULD BE UNBELIEVABLE WE WOULDN'T PASS.


PETER KESSLER

WE'LL TAKE A SHORT BREAK

PAYNE STEWART

MAYBE I WOULDN'T

PETER KESSLER

THIS IS THE LAST TIME I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A HARD TIME, BECAUSE WERE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT GLORIOUS MOMENT AT THE FRIDAY PEN, AT OLYMPIC CLUB AND YOUR FIRST PUTT AND YOUR FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD REACTION. YOU CAN TELL US ALL ABOUT IT AS WE TAKE A LITTLE LOOK.



PAYNE STEWART

OBVIOUSLY I DIDN'T PLAY ENOUGH BREAK. SEE NOW I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOING TO STOP ABOUT 4 FOOT BELOW THE HOLE.

PETER KESSLER

WE NOTICED, HAVE YOU SEEN THIS AGAIN

PAYNE STEWART

NO

PETER KESSLER

ARE YOU GOING TO BE SPEAKING TO ME AFTER TODAY.

PAYNE STEWART

WELL I DON'T KNOW THAT I'LL EVER COME BACK TO GOLF TALK LIVE. YOUR TREATING ME WITH SUCH DISRESPECT, I GUESS THAT GREEN WAS FAST, HUH? YOU KNOW WHAT, IT WAS FUNNY THAT I WENT UP AFTER THIS HAPPEN, AFTER I PUTTED OUT AFTER I ENDED 3 PUTTING FROM 12 FEET. I UM, I WENT UP AND PUTTED OUT AND WALKED UP TO MY OFFICIAL,

WALKING OFFICIAL GOING THROUGH, UP SIGN MY CARD AND I SAID DON'T YOU THINK THAT WAS A LITTLE RIDICULOUS.

PETER KESSLER

WE HEARD YA, WE'LL PICK IT UP WHEN WE COME BACK, DON'T GO AWAY.


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