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Golf Talk Live - Raymond Floyd Transcript Segment 2

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PETER KESSLER
SO MANY GUYS HAVE ASKED SAM SNEAD WHAT THE REAL SECRET WAS. WHAT DID HE TELL YOU?

RAYMOND FLOYD
WELL IT DIDN'T REALLY COME UP AS THE SECRET. I HAVE BEEN, I'D PLAYED TWO PRACTICE ROUNDS WITH SAM AT GREENSBOROUGH AND THAT WAS THE TOURNAMENT HE OWNED AND HE, HE WAS, SAM THEN WAS PROBABLY IN HIS MID 50'S AND HE HAD JUST THRASHED ME IN A PRACTICE ROUND AND I'D GONE OUT TO THE PRACTICE TEE AND SAM WAS OUT THERE AND I WAS REALLY STRUGGLING

AT THAT TIME. MY SWING HAD GOTTEN PRETTY SHORT AND LAID OFF AND SAM WALKED UP, AND HE JUST WATCHED ME HIT TWO OR THREE BALLS AND DIDN'T SAY A WORD AND I LOOKED BACK AND I

SAID SAM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING. YOU GOT TO TELL ME SOMETHING YOU SEE HOW BAD I'M STRUGGLING AND OF COURSE SAM, WASN'T MUCH ON GIVING AWAY A LOT OF

INFORMATION AND HE KIND OF, HE KIND OF TURNED AROUND TO MAKE SURE NOBODY ELSE WAS LISTENING. HE DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE IT TO BUT ONE PERSON, AND HE SAID YOU GOT TO TURN, JUNIOR, YOU GOT TO TURN, AND UH THAT WAS WHAT SAM TOLD ME AND OF COURSE I'VE

HEARD THAT WHEN ANYBODY ASKS SAM ABOUT THE REAL SECRET, WHAT IS THE CRUX OF IT HE'S ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT THE TURN.

PETER KESSLER
DID IT WORK FOR YOU?

RAYMOND FLOYD
IT DID. YOU KNOW I STARTED BEING CONSCIOUS OF GETTING THE SHOULDERS BACK WHICH PULLED THE HIPS UP WITH ME A LITTLE BIT AND I DID START PLAYING A LITTLE BETTER.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT TITANIC THOMPSON?

RAYMOND FLOYD
WELL I ONLY MET HIM ON THE OCCASION WHEN I WENT DOWN TO PLAY LEE TREVINO. I, I'D NEVER HEARD OF HIM. I DIDN'T KNOW WHO HE WAS, BUT AFTER THE FACT I HEARD ALL THE STORIES AND

THE TWO DAYS THAT I SPENT WITH HIM DOWN THERE HE WAS AN INCREDIBLE PERSON. WHAT A STORY TELLER AND HE WAS A CARD SHARK AND, AND MAGICIAN WITH HIS HANDS, I MEAN HE WAS AN INCREDIBLE HUMAN BEING.

PETER KESSLER
IT'S FUNNY HOW OVER TIME THINGS DO GET DISTORTED. WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT ARNOLD'S DRIVING IN THE 1960'S THERE'S THIS PERCEPTION THAT HE HIT IT IN THE TREES ALL THE TIME, WHEN MY

RECOLLECTION WAS THAT HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE STRAIGHTEST DRIVER UNDER PRESSURE ON THE TOUR FOR MAYBE THE WHOLE DECADE OF THE 1960'S.

RAYMOND FLOYD
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY QUESTION. I ALWAYS THOUGHT ARNOLD WAS THE BEST DRIVER OF THE GOLF BALL THAT I'D EVER SEEN AND HE HIT IT HARD AND HE HOOKED IT AND ON THE HARDER FAIRWAYS IN THE 60'S BEFORE PERFECT CONDITIONS AND A LOT OF IRRIGATION,

WE PLAYED THE HARDER, FIRMER FAIRWAYS AND HE CAN MAKE IT GO A LONG WAY DOWN LOW WITH THAT HOOK, BUT HE REALLY COULD DRIVE THE BALL VERY STRAIGHT.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF HIS GAME IN THOSE DAYS? WHAT LET HIM DOWN? WHAT PROPPED HIM UP?

RAYMOND FLOYD
WELL HE WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN, IN THE EARLY 60'S UNTIL JACK CAME OUT AND THEY RAN HEAD TO HEAD FOR A WHILE, BUT I DON'T THINK ARNOLD IN ANY ASPECT WAS REALLY WEAK. I THINK
RELATIVELY HE WAS WEAKER OUT OF

BUNKERS. HE WASN'T SO GREAT OUT OF BUNKERS WHEN YOU PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE OR RELATIVE TO OTHER PARTS OF HIS GAME. I THOUGHT HE WAS A FABULOUS LONG IRON PLAYER.

HE WAS AN INCREDIBLE PUTTER. HE MADE A LOT OF LONG PUTTS. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A FABULOUS ATTRIBUTE THAT HE HAD. PLAYERS JUST DIDN'T SEEM TO MAKE A LOT OF LONG PUTTS IN THOSE DAYS, BUT ARNOLD TENDED TO MAKE ONE OR TWO A ROUND FROM PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD WAYS OFF, BUT RELATIVELY

I THINK HIS BUNKER PLAY AND MAYBE SOME OF HIS WEDGE PLAY MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN UP TO PAR WITH THE OTHER PARTS BUT HE WAS A VERY WELL ROUNDED PLAYER.

PETER KESSLER
DID YOU LEARN ANYTHING FROM PLAYING WITH HOGAN THAT YOU COULD INCORPORATE INTO YOUR OWN WAY OF GETTING YOUR BUSINESS AROUND THE GOLF COURSE?

RAYMOND FLOYD
I THINK THE ONE THING THAT I LEARNED FROM BEN WAS DEMEANOR. I LEARNED THAT IT WAS A BUSINESS AND YOU TRIED TO GO ABOUT IT THE SAME WHETHER YOU WERE SHOOTING 80 OR 60. I THINK THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT I MIGHT HAVE EXTRACULATED FROM BEN.

PETER KESSLER
WHEN YOU WON YOUR FIRST MAJOR, THE PGA IN 1969 AND HAD A 5 SHOT LEAD GOING IN THE LAST ROUND THAT YOU TRIED TO CONSERVATIVELY MANAGE, DID YOU SORT OF FIGURE OUT LATER THAT MAYBE PLAYING CONSERVATIVE WITH THE LEAD WASN'T RAY FLOYD'S BEST STYLE TO WIN GOLF CHAMPIONSHIPS?

RAYMOND FLOYD
I THINK PLAYING CONSERVATIVE WITH THE LEAD IN SOME RESPECTS MIGHT NOT BE THE WORD. I THINK PLAYING SMART. I LIKE THE WORD SMART, AND THE SMARTER I PLAYED, SOMETIMES THE BETTER I PLAYED, THE LOWER I SHOT.

I THINK MY THOUGHT PROCESS WHEN I WAS PLAYING WELL AND WINNING, THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS SO GOOD, AND YOU BECAME SO POSITIVE WITH WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO AND YOU PLAYED AND MADE THE GAME EASY, SO YOU MIGHT GIVE YOURSELF A LITTLE LEE ON

THE FAT SIDE OF THE GREEN INSTEAD OF IF THERE'S WATER OR BUNKERS ON THE SHORT SIDE, AND I THINK AS I PLAYED SMARTER, IT WAS COMFORTABLE AND I TENDED TO HIT THE SHOTS THAT I WAS VISUALIZING OR NEEDED TO HIT MORE

OFTEN AND BY WHAT I CALL PLAYING A LITTLE BIT SMARTER WAS NOT NECESSARILY PLAYING CONSERVATIVE.

PETER KESSLER
WAS MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIP SOMETHING THAT YOU ACTIVELY THOUGHT ABOUT THEN OR WERE YOU TOO CAUGHT UP IN HAVING FUN AND THE GOLF WAS JUST PART OF THE FUN AND THAT YOU WOULD SEE WHAT HAPPENED OUT ON THE GOLF COURSE?

RAYMOND FLOYD
OH I THINK IN MY EARLY DAYS, THE COMING OUT AND WINNING VERY EARLY AND, AND BEING ROOKIE OF THE YEAR, WINNING IN MY FIRST YEAR AT AGE 20, I WAS STILL IN AWE OF THING S AND TO WIN I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT I WAS AWARE OF, OF WHAT IT MEANT AND HOW MUCH IT MEANT AT THAT TIME.

AS I PROGRESSED DOWN AND, AND WOULD GO THROUGH PERIODS WHEN I WOULDN'T PLAY WELL, I THINK ALL OF US HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT. YOU WONDER WHEN YOU START PLAYING BADLY WILL YOU EVER PLAY WELL AGAIN, AND, AND WHEN

YOU'RE PLAYING REALLY, REALLY WELL YOU WONDER HOW YOU, HOW YOU COULD EVER MISS A SHOT, SO I'VE CERTAINLY HAD THE UPS AND DOWNS. I KNOW, GOING BACK TO ONE OF YOUR ORIGINAL THINGS ABOUT PLANS OR, I WAS CALLING THEM GOALS, I KNOW IN 1969 IT WAS MY FIRST YEAR OF ELIGIBILITY FOR RYDER CUP.

WE USED TO HAVE TO PUT 5 YEARS IN BACK IN THOSE DAYS, YOU HAD TO BE A PGA MEMBER TO MAKE A RYDER CUP TEAM AND THAT TOOK 5 YEARS AND IN MY 5TH YEAR I WAS ELIGIBLE FOR RYDER CUP AND MY GOAL WAS TO MAKE THE RYDER CUP. I HAD NOT WON A MAJOR AND MY

GOAL WAS TO WIN A MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIP. I WON ALSO TWO OTHER EVENTS THAT YEAR PLUS THE PGA. MADE THE RYDER CUP TEAM SO I ACCOMPLISHED A LOT OF THINGS. IT WAS ALSO A GOAL OF MINE TO BREAK THE ONE HUNDRED

THOUSAND DOLLAR MARK AND ALL OF THAT HAPPENED IN 1969.

PETER KESSLER
WAS SAM SNEAD UPSET AFTER THE RYDER CUP MATCH WHEN JACK CONCEDED TONY JACKLIN'S SHORT, BUT MAYBE MISABLE PUTT WHICH ENDED UP MEANING A TIE AND HOLDING ON TO MR. RYDER'S CUP?

RAYMOND FLOYD
THERE'S BEEN SO MANY STORIES ABOUT THAT BUT I SAY THAT SAM WAS NOT UPSET ABOUT IT. I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE SAID AND PEOPLE HAVE WRITTEN THAT SAM WAS PRETTY UPSET THAT JACK GAVE HIM THAT PUTT. SAM WAS,

EXPRESSED THAT HE WOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN TONY THAT PUTT BUT I DON'T THINK HE WAS UPSET AND I THINK VERY SHORTLY THEREAFTER, EVERY PLAYER ON THAT TEAM, ALONG WITH THE CAPTAIN AND ALL, AND ALL THE SUPPORT PEOPLE

WERE, I THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I THINK IT WAS THE CLASSIC THING TO DO IN THAT COMPETITION. YOU KNOW RYDER CUP HAS EVOLVED SOMETIMES INTO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SHOULD BE AND IT'S ABOUT, IT WAS ALL

ABOUT SPIRIT, THE GAME, YOU'RE TAKING YOUR COUNTRY ACROSS THE PINE. IT'S GOOD WILL. THAT WAS RYDER CUP. SURE YOU WERE TRYING TO WIN BUT I THINK RYDER CUP GOT A LITTLE BIT OUT OF HAND HERE, OF LATE.

PETER KESSLER
HAD YOU EVER SEEN A GESTURE LIKE THE ONE THAT JACK MADE AND WHAT IMPRESSION DID IT HAVE ON YOU?

RAYMOND FLOYD
I THINK THAT'S THE GAME. I THINK THAT'S THE GAME OF GOLF HAS A LOT OF CONNOTATION. IT'S A, IT'S A GENTLEMANLY GAME, IT'S A GAME OF HONOR, IT'S A GAME OF INTEGRITY AND I THINK THAT'S THE THING THAT, THE RIGHT THING THAT WAS DONE THERE.

PETER KESSLER
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. DON'T GO AWAY.

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