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Golf Talk Live - Sam Snead Transcript Segment 6

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PETER KESSLER

DURING WORLD WAR TWO, THE RYDER CUP WASN'T PLAYED, BUT THE UNITED STATES NAMED A RYDER CUP TEAM TO PLAY IN 1943, IN THE HAPPY CIRCUMSTANCE THAT THE WAR MIGHT END BEFORE THE COMPETITION WAS SCHEDULED. WHAT A TEAM THAT NEVER GOT TO PLAY. CAPTAINED BY WALTER HAGEN, THE TEAM INCLUED CRAIG WOOD, JIMMY DEMARRIT, HORTON SMITH, BYRON NELSON, LOYD MANGROM, GENE SARAZON, BEN HOGAN AND OF COURSE, SAM SNEAD.

PETER KESSLER

NOW YOUR FIRST RYDER CUP WAS, WAS IN '37 AND AGAIN HAGEN WAS THE CAPTAIN.

SAM SNEAD

RIGHT

PETER KESSLER

THAT MUST HAVE BEEN A LOT OF FUN TO HANG OUT WITH HIM WASN'T IT?

SAM SNEAD

EVERYBODY WAS B0. HE PLAYED ONE ROUND WITH ME. BO I WANT TO PLAY A ROUND WITH YOU I WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND I GOT TO PLAY IN ONE MATCH AND THAT WAS THE SINGLES. I DIDN'T GET TO PLAY IN THE OTHERS, BUT, UH I KIND OF FELL IN LOVE WITH, WELL SO TO SPEAK, WITH UH HAGEN OVER THERE, HE SAID TO ME, HE SAID SAM HOW ABOUT YOU TAKING THE LITTLE LASSIE OUT FOR DINNER OR DANCE TONIGHT. I'M GOING TO GAVE MAMA A GOLF LESSON. I SAID MHMM. THAT WAS FUNNY. THAT WAS FUNNY. THAT WAS SO, THAT WAS MY MEETING WALTER HAGEN UH HE WAS QUITE A CHARACTER. A WONDERFUL MAN.
HE'S THE ONLY ONE, HE WAS THE FIRST GUY TO BE ABLE TO GET IN THE CLUBHOUSE IN ST. ANDREWS. THE FIRST TIME THAT HE BROKE THAT UH, THE UH LITTLE STRING WHERE GOLF PROS WERE CADDIES.

PETER KESSLER

WELL THEY GOT TIRED OF HIM PULLING UP IN THE FRONT DOOR IN THAT BIG LIMOUSINE AND HE HAD A, A FOOTMAN AND A SERVANT AND A CHAUFFEUR AND, AND A BUTLER

SAM SNEAD

HE HAD IT ALL

PETER KESSLER

HE HAD ALL THESE PEOPLE WAITING ON HIM HAND AND FOOT RIGHT OUTSIDE THE CLUBHOUSE RIGHT?

SAM SNEAD

HE, HE WAS A PISTOL. I TELL YOU.
HE WAS SOMETHING ELSE AND EVERYBODY LIKED WALTER. WONDERFUL GUY. HEAD WAS ALWAYS BACK AND WALKING FORWARD HE SAID SMELL THE FLOWERS AND LISTEN TO THE BIRDS AS YOU WALK DOWN THE STREET BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT COMING THAT WAY AGAIN.

PETER KESSLER

THAT'S A GREAT LINE. GENE SARAZON SAID THAT, AND WE WERE JUST VISITING WITH GENE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THAT, THAT WALTER HAGEN REMINDED HIM OF ARNOLD PALMER WHEN HE EVENTUALLY PLAYED WITH ARNOLD THAT, THAT THEY WERE BOTH A LITTLE WILD FROM TEE TO GREEN BUT THAT THEY COULD HOLD WHATEVER WAS NECESSARY TO MAKE THREES AND FOURS. DO YOU FEEL THAT WAY?

SAM SNEAD

YES. YUP.

PETER KESSLER

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND TALK TO ERIC IN FLORIDA. HELLO ERIC.

ERIC FROM FLORIDA

HI PETER. HELLO SAM.

SAM SNEAD

HI

ERIC FROM FLORIDA

I'M REALLY ENJOYING THE SHOW. I WANTED TO ASK SAM ABOUT HIS RYDER CUP EXPERIENCES. WHO WAS HIS FAVORITE PARTNER AND ALSO WHAT WAS HIS TOUGHEST MATCH, HIS BIGGEST CHALLENGE AND DID HE ENJOY THE UH RYDER CUP FORMAT?

SAM SNEAD

WELL I DID. THE ONLY MATCH THAT I DISLIKED, WE WERE PLAYING AT WHITWORTH AND I'M PLAYING WITH HARRY WEAKMAN AND ONE HOLE WHICH WAS THE 9TH HOLE, MY BALL WAS IN THE FAIRWAY AND I GOT UP THERE, THERE WERE 5 GUYS, I SAW THEM AT THE NEXT UH AT THE NEXT SHOT, THEY KICKED MY BALL UNDER A WHAT DO YOU CALL UH, COURSE BUSH, AND THEN I'M ON A PAR 5 ON 16TH I THINK 16TH HOLE AND I SEE THE BALL IN THE FAIRWAY AND I GOT DOWN THERE IT'S BACK IN A DITCH SOME SEVENTY FEET OFF THE FAIRWAY OH IT HIT SOMEBODY AND, AND, AND.MHMM, THAT SURE DID AND I LOST THE, THAT COST ME THE MATCH OH I WOULD HAVE WON THE MATCH, I WOULD NOT HAVE WON, I LOST A MATCH UH IN MY ALL THE TIME I PLAYED IN THE UH RYDER CUP TEAM BUT UH THAT WAS JUST A ONE TIME THAT I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY CHICKEN.

PETER KESSLER

NOW WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU WOULD PLAY WITH HOGAN, AND, AND NELSON AND LOYD MANGROM IN THE 40'S AND 50'S AT PLACES LIKE PINEHURST OUR GUYS WEREN'T KICKING THE GOLF BALLS OF THE ENGLISH WERE THEY?

SAM SNEAD

NO, NO. MANGROM WASN'T PLAYING VERY WELL AND I'D COME OUT OF THE CRASH AND HE SAYS 'NUDY' HE CALLED ME NUDY, 'CAN I PUT THE THING WHERE YOU CAN'T EVER GET AT IT?' AND I SAID LOYD TRY A LITTLE BIT HARDER BUT I HAD A LOT OF FUN PLAYING WITH ALL THE THE PARTNERS I HAD AND I WOULDN'T SAY WHAT IS WHO OR ANYTHING ABOUT THAT BUT I LIKED EVERYONE I PLAYED WITH, THEY WERE ALL GREAT GUYS.

PETER KESSLER

YOU, YOU ONLY LOST TWO MATCHES OUT OF THE 12 THAT YOU PLAYED IN SINGLES, OUT OF THE 13 ACTUALLY, YOU WON 10 AND, AND LOST 2 WHICH MADE ME THINK AGAIN THAT MATCH PLAY WAS SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO YOUR THREE PGAS THAT YOU REALLY LOVED AND YOU SPENT YOUR TIME AWAY FROM THE TOUR REALLY PLAYING MATCH PLAYS. AND AGAINST LIKE THE FELLOW WHO JUST CALLED JERRY FROM VIRGINIA WHO YOU BEAT OUT OF SOME MONEY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. THAT'S REALLY YOUR FAVORITE ISN'T IT?

SAM SNEAD

YES. I LIKE MATCH PLAY. YOU CAN HAVE AN EIGHT. THAT ONLY MEANS ONE HOLE. SO YOU CAN GO AFTER IT MORE IN MATCH PLAY THEN YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE PLAYING MEDAL.

PETER KESSLER

YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE NEVER TALKED ABOUT, TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AUDREY. YOUR WIFE AUDREY.

SAM SNEAD

MY WIFE AUDREY, WELL, I KNEW HER EVER SINCE WE WERE IN LOW GRADED SCHOOL AND UH UM WE SORT OF KIND OF LIKED EACH OTHER RIGHT THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AND SHE WAS A GOOD, VER. VERY, VERY GOOD ATHLETE, SHE WAS A LITTLE ON THE HEAVY SIDE BUT IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. THAT'S WHEN THEY HAD SIX GIRLS ON THE BASKETBALL TEAM OR SEVEN AND UM IT WAS ONE IN THE CENTER, WAS TWO GUARDS IN THE CENTER AND THE GIRL THAT SHE UH WAS WITH BOY SHE CAME OUT OF THERE BLACK AND BLUE. THIS ONE CAME OVER TO ME AND SHE SAYS LOOK GET THIS ANIMAL OFF OF ME SHE'S KILLING ME. SO I WENT OVER TOWARD HER AND I SAID HEY LOOK TAKE IT A LITTLE EASY ON HER I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CALL YOU. SHE SAID YOU BETTER NOT. I HAPPENED TO BE LOOKING THE OTHER WAY WHEN SHE MADE A FOUL BUT UH, UH THAT WAS WONDERFUL. SHE WAS A GOOD GOLFER. SHE WAS A SIX HANDICAP BUT SHE WON THE UM OUR CLUB CHAMPIONSHIP AT BOCA RATON I THINK A COUPLE OF TIMES. AND SHE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT PLAYING WITH THE GIRLS. AT THAT TIME THEY WEREN'T VERY GOOD. SHE WANTED TO PLAY WITH THE, THE MEN. SHE'D HIT A FOUR IRON, I MEAN A FOUR WOOD 200 YARDS BUT UH SHE WAS STRONG AND UH SHE, BOY SHE LOVED SPORTS.

PETER KESSLER

WAS IT, WERE YOU ABLE TO STILL BE A PRETTY GOOD HUSBAND AND FATHER GIVEN THAT YOU WERE ON THE ROAD SO MUCH?

SAM SNEAD

WELL YOU KNOW MY KIDS DIDN'T HARDLY KNOW ME. BOY THEY KIND OF SHIED AWAY WHEN I CAME IN AND I COULDN'T GET ON THEM FOR EVERYTHING THEY DID AND UH BUT OHH, POP HAD TO MAKE IT SOME WAY AND, AND UH WHEN THE FIRST ONE WAS BORN THEY STAYED WITH HIM ABOUT TWO WEEKS BUT SHE SAID NOW HE'S YOURS, YOU, I'VE HAD HIM ALL DAY, HE'S YOURS NOW. I JUST HAD A BAD ROUND THOUGH. I SAID YEAH THAT'S GREAT. I SAID HEY I CAN'T GO THIS ROUTE ANYMORE SO AFTER TWO WEEKS WE'D GO HOME.

PETER KESSLER

AND YOU'D WORRY ABOUT THE BIRDIES AND EAGLES AGAIN AND LET HER WORRY ABOUT THE BABIES?

SAM SNEAD

THAT'S RIGHT.

PETER KESSLER

I GOT YOU. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK. SAM WILL STILL BE HERE. DON'T GO AWAY.

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