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Golf Talk Live - Tom Watson Transcript Segment 3

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PETER KESSLER
YOU HAVE TOLD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE, INCLUDING YOUR '93 RYDER CUP TEAM THAT THEY WERE GOING TO WIN BECAUSE YOU WERE LUCKY AND SOMETIMES THAT YOU WERE GOING TO WIN BECAUSE YOU WERE LUCKY. WHY DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF LUCKY?

TOM WATSON
WELL I, I FEEL LIKE I'VE HAD MORE THAN MY SHARE OF GOOD LUCK. I MEAN THAT, THAT PUTT THAT WE JUST WATCHED AT THE BRITISH OPEN. THE 15TH HOLE IN '77 AT TURNBURY. WAS THAT LUCKY? WELL YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT 50 OR 60 FEET AND IT

BREAKS ABOUT 5 OR 8 FEET. SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT GOES IN. THEY SAY WELL YOU'RE AIMING AT THE HOLE, BUT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING, ANY LITTLE THING COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, KNOCKED IT OFF LINE. I REMEMBER

PLAYING AT TUCSON ONE TIME AND I, I WAS WINNING THE TOURNAMENT (LAUGHS) AND I HIT THIS DRIVER ON THE 12TH HOLE THERE IS A PAR 4 AND I'M TRYING TO CUT THE SHOT. HIT A DOUBLE CROSS. I HOOK IT. THERE'S NOBODY OUT THERE IN THE LEFT HAND SIDE, IT GOES DOWN THERE, BOUNDS DOWN THERE

HITS AN OUT OF BOUNDS STAKES. BOOM. YOU KNOW, IT DROPS, IT STAYS IN BOUNDS, I HIT A PITCHING WEDGE, I HIT A SAND WEDGE THIS CLOSE TO THE HOLE, MAKE A BIRDIE, AND I WALK AWAY WITH THE TOURNAMENT. NOW THAT'S LUCKY, AND BUT I, YOU KNOW IT'S, I JUST FEEL LIKE I'VE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE, MORE THAN MY SHARE OF GOOF LUCK.

PETER KESSLER
BYRON NELSON WAS HERE JUST A FEW DAYS AGO, AND WE ASKED HIM TO RANK WHAT ARE GENERALLY CONSIDERED TO BE FOUR OF THE BEST YEARS EVER. JONES' 1930 WHEN HE WON ALL FOUR MAJORS FOR WHICH HE WAS ELIGIBLE. BYRON'S 1945, 18 WINS, 11 IN A ROW. ONE MAJOR. THE ONLY ONE, OF

COURSE, I THINK PLAYED THAT YEAR. HOGAN'S '53, PLAYED 6 TIMES, WON 5, INCLUDING THREE MAJORS AND HE COULDN'T PLAY IN THE FOURTH BECAUSE THEY OVERLAPPED AND TIGER'S 2000, 9 TOUR WINS, 3 MAJORS

TOM WATSON
MHMM

PETER KESSLER
HOW WOULD YOU RANK THOSE?

TOM WATSON
I'D HAVE TO GIVE TIGER THE EDGE. IT'S NOT A QUESTION THAT WINNING, WINNING AGAINST THE QUALITY FIELDS AND WINNING IN THREE MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIPS, THAT, TO ME IS, IS THE BEST, AND BOBBY JONES, BYRON, HOGAN, AND IT'S A, IT'S A TOSS UP

IN THOSE THREE, BUT I JUST, I JUST HAVE TO SAY TIGER'S PERFORMANCE LAST YEAR WAS, WAS THE BEST. THERE'S NOT A QUESTION IN MY MIND THIS IS THE BEST.

PETER KESSLER
LANNY WADKINS WAS QUOTED RECENTLY AS SAYING THAT THERE WAS A SIX YEAR PERIOD WHERE THE TWO OF YOU WERE PARTNERS ON TUESDAYS PLAYING OTHER GUYS FOR MONEY BEFORE THE TOUR EVENT STARTED.

TOM WATSON
WE COULDN'T WAIT TILL TUESDAY.

PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHS)
AND YOU DIDN'T LOOSE FOR SIX STRAIGHT YEARS

UNTIL ZINGER AND MICKELSON BEAT YOU AT AUGUSTA

TOM WATSON
WELL I, I,

YEAH ZINGER, YEAH ZINGER AND MICKELSON BEAT US PRETTY GOOD AT AUGUSTA BUT WE HAD, WE HAD SOME PRETTY GOOD TUESDAY GAMES, LANNY AND I. HE'S A GREAT COMPETITOR AND, AND WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE JUST FED OFF EACH OTHER, PLAYING THEIR PRACTICE ROUNDS. THEY LOVED, AND

WE, WE, WE, WE CAME THROUGH THE SAME TOUR SCHOOL IN 1971, THE PGA NATIONAL EAST COURSE AND STARTED THE TOUR TOGETHER THEN AND HE WAS, HE WAS A GREAT PLAYER AT THAT TIME AND I WAS JUST STRUGGLING. I WAS JUST

TRYING, TRYING TO MAKE A CUT AND MAKE, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKE SOME BUCKS SO THAT I COULD PAY BACK MY SPONSORS AND MAYBE PUT A FEW BUCKS IN MY POCKET AND FIND OUT HOW GOOD
I WAS, BUT LANNY WAS AN ACCOMPLISHED PLAYER. I ALWAYS ADMIRED THE WAY HE HIT HIS IRON SHOTS. MY DAD WATCHED HIM PLAY QUITE A BIT AND HE SAID BOY HE COULD

HIT THE BALL CLOSE, WITH EVERY IRON IN THE BAG, AND YEAH THAT'S TRUE.
HE WAS, HE REALLY, REALLY COULD PLAY AND I'D LIKE TO SEE HIM START PLAYING WELL AGAIN.

PETER KESSLER
YEAH, SPEAKING OF THE DIFFICULTY YOU HAD IN REPAYING YOUR INVESTORS, YOU MADE THE 18 GRAND IN 5 MINUTES THAT THEY GAVE YOU AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR YOU PAID THEM A DIVIDEND IF I REMEMBER IT RIGHT.

TOM WATSON
WELL, IT TOOK ME ALMOST THE FULL YEAR. ACTUALLY, IT DID TAKE ME THE FULL YEAR TO PAY THE 18 GRAND BACK. THAT'S, BACK IN THOSE DAYS THE 18 GRAND, YOU KNOW, I, I MADE IT LAST, I THINK, I PAID

I THINK I SPENT ABOUT SIXTEEN FIVE FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR. CADDY, HOTEL, TRAVEL EXPENSES AND I WAS IN, IN, I CAME IN THE LAST TOURNAMENT WHICH WAS THE QUAD CITIES OPEN AND THAT WAS MY LAST YEAR OF MY CONTRACT

YEAR AND I, FINISHED SECOND TO BEAN BEMAN. MADE ELEVEN THOUSAND BUCKS AND MAN I, ELEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND I, I PUT A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY IN MY POCKET AFTER THE FIRST CONTRACT YEAR.

PETER KESSLER
SIXTEEN FIVE FOR A YEAR OF EXPENSES. WHAT DOES IT COST FOR A WEEK NOW?

TOM WATSON
(LAUGHS) WELL, HONESTLY, I'VE, I'VE PAID THAT MUCH FOR A WEEK OF EXPENSES OUT HERE, AT THE POINT OF THE BRITISH OPEN.

PETER KESSLER
LET'S CHECK IN WITH ONE OF OUR VIEWERS. WE'VE GOT RICH IN VIRGINIA. HOW ARE YOU TONIGHT, RICH?

RICH, CALLER FROM VIRGINIA (MALE):
OH I'M DOING FINE, THANK YOU. IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE ON YOUR SHOW.

PETER KESSLER
THANK YOU.

RICH, CALLER FROM VIRGINIA (MALE):
I WANTED TO ASK MR. WATSON, AS A PARTICIPANT IN PAST RYDER CUPS, BEING THE EVENT CHANGED DRAMATICALLY OVER THE YEARS, ARE YOU WORRIED THAT MAYBE IT'S GETTING, GETTING A

LITTLE TOO BIG AND MAYBE A LITTLE TOO BITTERLY FOUGHT FROM WHAT STARTED OUT AS FRIENDLY, A FRIENDLY EVENT.

TOM WATSON
WELL, I THINK THERE IS THAT WORRY OUT THERE. WHEN I WAS RYDER CUP CAPTAIN IN '93, AFTER THE '91 EPISODE AT KEOA WE HAD, WE HAD SOME GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH EACH OTHER, THE, BERNHARD, GALLAGHER AND MYSELF AND

WE, WE TRIED TO, MAKE SURE THAT WHAT, WHAT WAS THE POINT IS THE WAR BY THE SHORE WOULDN'T HAPPEN AND YEAH I THINK WE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF IT AND, AT THE BELFRY. WHAT HAPPENED TO COLIN MONTGOMERIE IS INEXCUSABLE. THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR IN, IN GOLF, YOU SHOULDN'T ALLOW THAT

TO HAPPEN. THAT CAN'T HAPPEN. PAYNE STEWART WAS WONDERFUL AND JUST SAYING YOU STOP PLAY AND HE SAID GET THAT GUY OUT OF HERE. HE'S A JERK. AND YOU CAN DO THAT IN BASEBALL, AND FOOTBALL. YOU CAN DO THAT IN HOCKEY, YOU CAN DO THAT IN A LOT OF OTHER SPORTS, YOU JUST SIMPLY CAN'T DO IT IN GOLF. IT'S JUST NOT THE RIGHT

WAY TO, THE RIGHT WAY, THAT'S NOT THE WAY THE GAME IS SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYED, AND DO I, DO I FEAR IT'S GOING TO GET ANY WORSE? UH NO. I THINK, I THINK THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES WILL, WILL MONITOR IT AND MAKE IT UH AND, AND MAKE IT RIGHT.

PETER KESSLER
WHEN WE COME BACK FROM BREAK WE'LL BE JOINED BY YOUR FRIEND, ARNIE ADAMS. STAY WITH US.

TOM WATSON
BARNYARD.

PETER KESSLER
AS WE LEAVE YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS RIVETING STATISTIC FOR AN AWARD THAT BEGAN IN 1948. PGA PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARDS. TOM WATSON 6TH, JACK 5, HOGAN 4, HE WOULD HAVE WON A COUPLE MORE HAD STARTED AT 46 PROBABLY.

TOM WATSON
(LAUGHS)

PETER KESSLER
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

(BREAK)

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