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Golf Talk Live - World Golf Village Special Transcript Segment 2

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PETER KESSLER
WE HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR 5 YEARS TO GET JACK BURKE, JR. TO COME VISIT US AT THE GOLF CHANNEL. HE IS CAPTIVE HERE AT THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS HE HAS AGREED TO BE WITH US TONIGHT. IT'S A
PLEASURE TO SEE YOU, SIR.

JACK BURKE, JR.
THANKS PETER. NICE TO SEE YOU.

PETER KESSLER
OTHER THAN SUGGESTING THAT YOU WERE IN FLORIDA TO SORT OUT THE VOTING PROBLEM.

JACK BURKE, JR.
YEAH

PETER KESSLER
WHAT WOULD YOUR FRIEND AND PARTNER AND GREAT PLAYER, JIMMY DEMARETT SAY ABOUT YOUR INDUCTION INTO THE WORLD GOLF HALL OF FAME TODAY?

JACK BURKE, JR.
WELL, I'VE DONE THIS ONE OTHER TIME. JIMMY SAID, I HEAR THAT YOU'RE INDUCTED INTO THE HALL OF FAME. THIS WAS EARLY ON. WE HAD ONE THAT

DIDN'T QUIET MAKE IT AND THEN HE SAID, WHAT KIND OF SPEECH DO YOU WANT TO USE? I'VE GOT A LOT OF HALL OF FAME SPEECHES.

(KESSLER AND BURKE LAUGH)

PETER KESSLER
ALL OF THEM FUNNY AND ALL WITH SINGING, RIGHT?

JACK BURKE, JR.
RIGHT. RIGHT.

PETER KESSLER
YOU TALKED DURING YOUR INDUCTION SPEECH ABOUT ALL OF THE GREAT UNSUNG TEACHER HEROES

JACK BURKE, JR.
RIGHT

PETER KESSLER
THAT WE'VE HAD IN THIS GAME, INCLUDING YOUR DAD.

JACK BURKE, JR.
RIGHT

PETER KESSLER
HOW DID FELLOWS, LIKE YOUR DAD, AND JACK GROUT AND, AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT AND PAUL RUNYAN

JACK BURKE, JR.
RIGHT

PETER KESSLER
HOW DID THEY FIND THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE GOLF SWING THAT HAS STOOD UP FOR ALMOST A HUNDRED YEARS NOW?

JACK BURKE, JR.
WELL THEY ALL HAD TO TEACH, MAKE A LIVING AND THEY WERE ALL UH, GREAT, YOU KNOW TEACHING, PETER, IS, IS A VERY PERSONAL THING. YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY KNOW THE PERSON AND FEEL

PAIN TO TEACH. YOU'VE GOT TO HOPE HE MAKES IT. THAT'S THE WAY YOU TEACH. YOU CAN'T PUT IMPLEMENTS AROUND AND, AND JACKETS ON AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO TEACH. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO RECEIVE THE PAIN.

THERE'S NO PAIN IN ME KICKING BALLS IN FRONT OF YOU. THERE'S PAIN IN ME HOPING THAT YOU MAKE IT AND WATCHING YOU MAKE IT AND, AND WATCHING YOU COMPETE AND TEACHING YOU HOW TO COMPETE AND, AND JUST TELL THE PEOPLE THE THINGS THAT YOU

GO THROUGH IN COMPETING. IT, HITTING A GOLF BALL, ANYBODY CAN TEACH THAT, ANYBODY CAN TEACH THAT. GOLF IS INSIDE OF YOU AND YOU HAVE TO BRING IT OUT SOMEHOW. EVERYBODY'S GOT A SWING OF SOME KIND. YOU JUST GOT TO FIND, FIND WHAT THE HELL HE CAN DO WITH IT. WHAT HE'S GOT, YOU KNOW, LITTLE GUYS, FAT GUYS, TALL GUYS.

PETER KESSLER
IN 1952, WHEN YOU HAD YOUR SWING AND PERHAPS AS GOOD AS IT EVER WAS, AND YOU WON FOUR TOURNAMENTS IN A ROW THAT YEAR, WHAT WAS THE TOUGHEST PART OF WINNING FOUR IN A ROW?

JACK BURKE, JR.
I WAS TRYING TO COUNT MY MONEY (LAUGHS) . WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY, YOU KNOW WE WEREN'T PLAYING FOR ANY MONEY. I WON 4 IN A ROW AND YOU GOT TWO THOUSAND BUCKS A WEEK. THE TOUR WE WERE ON, WE WERE ALL TEACHERS, AND WE TAUGHT IN THE

EASTERN SEABOARD. WE'RE ALL KIDS FROM THE SOUTH. THERE WAS NO MONEY IN THE SOUTH. NO GOLF CLUBS IN THE SOUTH. NOBODY PLAYED GOLF. THEY, DRUG, DUG OIL WELLS SO

WE WERE ALL IN NEW YORK. HOGAN WAS UP THERE, BYRON NELSON WAS UP THERE, DEMARRET WAS UP THERE, LOYD MANGRUM, EVERYBODY HAD A CLUB. SAM STILL HAS CLUBS. HAUGE'S NEVER

HAD, HE'S A HUNDRED AND, HE HASN'T GIVEN THEM UP YET AND I HAVEN'T EITHER, BUT CLUBS WERE OUR LIVES AND THE AMATEUR PLAYER IS THE GUY THAT, THAT, THAT I HAVE THE REVERENCE FOR. I MEAN I HAVE, I MEAN A GUY THAT'S

A LAWYER AND IS A 3 HANDICAP, I'VE GOT TO HAND IT TO HIM, BECAUSE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, PETER, A PRO AND AN AMATEUR IS WHO GETS TO PLAY

SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE UH YOU KNOW, A BAD PLAYER, A GOOD PLAYER IS JUST A BAD PLAYER THAT DIDN'T QUIT. THAT'S ALL THERE IS. JUST DON'T QUIT, AND THAT'S WHAT THESE AMATEUR PLAYERS DO. DOCTORS AND LAWYERS THAT ARE ALL GREAT PLAYERS. I'M, I'M NOT IN TOO

MUCH SYMPATHY WITH THE GUY THAT JUST WANTS TO PLAY A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT GOING TO EVER GET IT, BUT YOU'VE GOT GUYS THAT HAVE GOT A LOT OF HOURS IN GOLF. I MEAN IT TAKES 5 HOURS TO PLAY GOLF AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE A 3 HANDICAPPER.

YOU CALCULATE THOSE WAGES UP FROM A LAWYER OR A DENTIST OR A DOCTOR. THAT'S A LOT, A LOT OF, HE'S GOT A LOT OF MONEY IN HIS GAME. A LOT.

PETER KESSLER
YOU ONCE SAID THAT LOSERS ARE RESULT ORIENTED AND WINNERS ARE EXECUTION ORIENTED.

JACK BURKE, JR.
RIGHT.

PETER KESSLER
EXPLAIN THAT FOR ME.

JACK BURKE, JR.
WELL, THE, THE, WHEN YOU GO, WHEN YOU GO OUT ON SUNDAY TO TRY AND PLAY, AND YOU GET ALL INVOLVED IN YOUR PRESENTATION SPEECH IF YOU WIN. WHAT AM I GOING TO DO IF I BECOME FAMOUS? ALL THAT GET IS A, IS A WAGON

YOU'RE PULLING AND YOU GET HURT WITH THAT, AND IF YOU CAN GO OUT AND JUST EXECUTE THE SHOTS THAT YOU KNOW, PLAY THE NOTES THAT YOU KNOW, SING THE SONG THAT YOU CAN SING. DON'T BE TRYING TO BE SOMETHING THAT

YOU'RE NOT. YOU MIGHT SURVIVE THE DAY, BUT 5 HOURS IS A LONG TIME OUT THERE, TRYING TO WIN, BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF HEAT ON YOU AND YOU DON'T NEED THAT AT THAT TIME. YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD PUT THE FIRST BALL IN THE

FAIRWAY, THE VERY FIRST SHOT YOU HIT, THAT'S ALMOST WINNING. IF THAT DUDE GOES SIDEWAYS THOUGH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LONG DAY.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT WAS THE THING THAT YOU DISCOVERED ABOUT YOUR OWN GAME WHEN YOU WERE PLAYING YOUR BEST THAT MADE YOU FEEL LIKE THAT MIGHT BE YOUR MAJOR KEY FOR YOUR GOLF SWING?

JACK BURKE, JR.
WELL THAT HAPPENED TO ME ONE TIME IN A MOTEL. I FOUND MY GOLF SWING. I WAS A, I WENT TO A CATHOLIC SCHOOL AND WE HAD A TEACHER THAT TAUGHT US, ONE DAY, ABOUT FIRST THINGS FIRST, AND IT WAS ABOUT THE POLITICS AND THE

WEDDINGS AND ALL OF THE THINGS THE FIRST THINGS FIRST COMES UP FROM AND I WAS SITTING THERE, I COULD FEEL AN EIGHTY COMING. I WAS LEADING THE TOURNAMENT. I COULD FEEL AN EIGHTY

WAS GOING TO HIT ME AND I THOUGHT WELL, HOW IS THIS FATHER HIGGINS THING GOING TO HELP ME HERE TODAY WITH THIS FIRST THINGS FIRST. I SAID WELL THE FIRST THING YOU'VE GOT TO DO IS GET A TEE. TEE THE BALL UP. PUT THE FACE DOWN THERE AND JUST HOPE YOU CAN HIT A NINETY. THAT'S ALL YOU GOT

TO DO TODAY. I SHOT A SIXTY-SEVEN, AND GOT OUT BECAUSE I, I DIDN'T ANY MORE THINK BUT JUST THAT. IF YOU CAN TAKE A CLUB, SAY LOFT, AND HIT NINETY, YOU'RE GOING TO PLAY WELL. THE CROOKED BALLS GO THIS WAY AND THIS

WAY THEY DIDN'T HIT A NINETY. SO, WITH DRIVERS OR PUTTERS OR IRONS, IF YOU CAN CRACK THAT NINETY ON THE LINE THAT YOU'RE GOING ON, YOU CAN PLAY GOLF.

PETER KESSLER
HOW COULD YOU MAKE THE NINETY, THE ANGLE, WITHOUT BEING TOO CAREFUL DURING THE PROCESS?

JACK BURKE, JR.
WELL, YOU, YOU CAN'T, YOU DON'T YOU KNOW THAT'S THE ONE THING, THERE'S A CERTAIN RECKLESSNESS, PETER, TO GOLF. GOLF IS NOT A, IT IS A HIGH RISK GAME, AND IT, IT TAKES A PERSON THAT
HAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RECKLESSNESS IN HIM TO BE GOOD.

NOW YOU CAN BE GOOD, AND, AND THEN HOLD ONTO ALL YOUR POCKET MONEY BUT IF YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO BE GOOD, YOU`VE GOT TO THROW IT OUT THERE AND, AND HAVE SOME RECKLESSNESS AND JUST HOPE THAT IT, IT, IT ISN'T TOO RECKLESS.

PETER KESSLER
JACK, IT'S BEEN A GREAT PLEASURE TO SPEND TIME WITH YOU.

JACK BURKE, JR.
THANK YOU

PETER KESSLER
AND I HOPE THAT WHEN I CALL YOU AND I ASK YOU TO COME TO ORLANDO WE CAN FIND A DATE TO DO THAT TOGETHER.

JACK BURKE, JR.
YES SIR, FINE.

PETER KESSLER
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

JACK BURKE, JR.
YOU BET

PETER KESSLER
GREAT PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU. WE'LL BE BACK WITH HALL OF FAMER, JUDY RANKIN, DON'T GO AWAY.
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