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Golf Talk Live - Jack Nicklaus Transcript Segment 5

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PETER KESSLER
NOW FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, THAT'S JACK AND HIS DAD RIGHT AFTER JACK HAD WON IN '65 AND JACK AND JACKIE AS HE WAS GOING TO WIN IN '86 AND HAD COMPLETED PLAY.

AND NOT ONLY HAS MASTERS WEEK BEEN GREAT FOR JACK NICKLAUS, BUT IT'S BEEN A GREAT WEEK FOR THE NICKLAUS FAMILY.

JACK NICKLAUS
IT REALLY HAS. I THINK THAT UH . ALL MY KIDS HAVE BEEN AT THE UH, THE MASTERS, YOU KNOW, FROM TIME TO TIME. AND '86 UH WAS KIND OF AN INTERESTING YEAR. I THINK MY MOTHER HAD GONE TO THE MASTERS. UH, I DON'T THINK SHE'D BEEN TO THE MASTERS SINCE I WAS AN AMATEUR.

AND I - AND SHE CAME BACK IN '86. AND UH, MY UH . MY SISTER, I DON'T KNOW THAT SHE'D EVER BEEN TO THE MASTERS. WHY IN THE WORLD SHE PICKED '86 TO COME, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT UH, THEY CAME AND, OF COURSE, THE KIDS COME EVERY YEAR. AND UH . UH, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT TIMES THERE. AND, OF COURSE, JACK'S CADDIED FOR ME. STEVE'S CADDIED FOR ME THERE. AND UH,

AS A MATTER OF FACT, STEVE CADDIED FOR ME LAST YEAR. JACK CADDIED FOR ME, OF COURSE, IN '86.

PETER KESSLER
HOW BIG A WEEK AND HOW BIG A DEAL WAS THAT FOR YOUR DAD?

JACK NICKLAUS
WELL, YOU KNOW, MY DAD SORT OF REALLY LIVED FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO ME. UH, I THINK THAT UH MY SISTER GOT THE SHORT END OF THE DEAL AND . AND MY MOTHER SUPPORTED US. AND I THINK THAT UH . UH .

BUT MY SISTER NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT `CAUSE SHE WAS JUST AS SUPPORTIVE AS MY MOTHER. UH, BUT MY DAD, HE JUST . YOU KNOW, UH .

HE LIVED THROUGH MY EFFORTS. AND UH, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY HE PASSED AWAY AT A RELATIVELY YOUNG AGE AT 56. AND UH . UH, HE UH . UH .

HE WAS ALWAYS THERE . HE WAS ALWAYS A FRIEND. HE NEVER INTERFERED. UH, BUT IT WAS THE SAME WAY HE DID WITH ALL SPORTS. YOU KNOW, HE INTRODUCED ME TO ALL SPORTS. HE PARTICIPATED WITH ME. YOU KNOW, HE'D THROW THE BALL BACK TO ME UNTIL I DIDN'T WANT TO OR HE DIDN'T WANT THROW IT BACK MORE OR .FOR --

HE WOULD UH . WATCH ME HIT GOLF BALLS, OR HE WOULD GO HIT TENNIS BALLS WITH ME OR WE'D DO WHATEVER, EVER, YOU KNOW, WE DID . WE HUNTED. WE FISHED TOGETHER. WE DID EVERYTHING.

AND UH, UM . YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP LIKE THAT WITH YOUR FATHER. AND, AS A RESULT OF THAT UH . UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE RELATIONSHIP I WANTED TO HAVE WITH MY KIDS TOO. AND I THINK I HAVE HAD.

SO UH . BUT MY FATHER . TO SEE HIM COME OUT AND BE THERE AS I FINISHED MASTERS -- I THINK THAT IN '65, I THINK HE CAME UP AND GAVE ME A LITTLE PAT ON THE CHEEK,

YOU KNOW, LIKE THAT. HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, 'THAT WAS GREAT' OR 'WELL DONE, JACK', YOU KNOW. AND -- BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS ABOUT AS EMOTIONAL AS HE GOT ABOUT -- BUT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, LIKE INSIDE I KNOW HE'S . HE'S,

YOU KNOW, HE'S POPPING INSIDE AND BURSTING FROM . YOU KNOW, THE SEAMS. BUT IT'S UH . UH . HE WAS GREAT.

PETER KESSLER
HOW BIG AN ASSIST DOES YOUR WIFE, BARBARA, GET FOR THE SUCCESS OF YOUR CAREER AND HELPING TO KEEP LIFE REAL ORGANIZED.

JACK NICKLAUS
UH, WELL OUT OF 20 MAJORS, YOU KNOW, SHE GETS ASSISTS FOR PROBABLY 19. I GET ONE CREDIT FOR MYSELF. (LAUGH)

BARBARA'S GREAT. BARBARA'S UH . UH, I'D HATE TO THINK WHAT UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT MY LIFE WOULD HAVE BEEN HAD I NOT MARRIED BARBARA BASH AND UH . AND UH, THE WAY SHE'S HANDLED THINGS.

I MEAN, OUR KIDS ALL KNOW ME. THEY ALL KNOW ME BECAUSE SHE MADE SURE THAT THAT HAPPENED AND I MADE SURE IT HAPPENED. BUT SHE ALWAYS WAS NEVER, NEVER SAID, YOU KNOW, 'JACK, YOU NEED TO DO THIS.'

SHE ALWAYS WOULD . NOT REALLY DO IT BUT IT ALWAYS HAPPENED. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, SHE WAS ALWAYS THERE. SHE ALWAYS KNEW THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND THE RIGHT THING TO SAY. AND THAT'S,

YOU KNOW . NOT MANY GUYS ARE THAT LUCKY. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT WHEN I STARTED ON THE TOUR THERE WAS AN AWFUL LOT OF GUYS THAT I STARTED WITH THAT PROBABLY HAD . YOU KNOW, AS MUCH TALENT AS I DID.

BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORT THAT I HAD. AND UH , AS A RESULT, MY LIFE WAS MADE EASY. IT ALLOWED ME TO GO PLAY GOLF AND DO THE THINGS I NEEDED TO DO WHERE THEY DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THAT SUPPORT. AND SO,

MAYBE I . YOU KNOW . I .. AND I THINK WINNING BREEDS WINNING SO I GOT A LITTLE BIT LUCKY WHEN I WAS YOUNGER. I LEARNED HOW TO DO A FEW THINGS AND HAD THAT SUPPORT AND AS A RESULT UH . UH, YOU KNOW, I GOT A LITTLE, I GOT A LITTLE FURTHER AHEAD THAN THEY DID.

PETER KESSLER
WE KNOW WHAT A LOT OF THE PUBLIC WANT FOR YOU, WHICH IS TO WIN ANOTHER 20 MAJORS. WHAT DO YOUR KIDS WANT FOR YOU, DO YOU SUPPOSE?

JACK NICKLAUS
THEY WANT ME TO HAVE FUN. AND UH, I PLAYED WITH UH, I PLAYED WITH GARY THIS MORNING. I PLAYED WITH JACK ON . ON UH . GEE .YES, WE PLAYED FRIDAY. I PLAYED GARY YESTERDAY TOO.

AND UH . UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE UH . GARY WATCHED ME SWING TODAY, I MEAN, YOU'VE SEEN IT, 80 YARDS BY ME. AND UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS NEVER UH, 'DAD, YOU NEED TO DO THIS .'

HE SAID, 'IT'S JUST GREAT SEEING YOU COME OUT AND HITTING THE BALL. GREAT TO SEE YOU OUT.' UH,

I PLAYED MY FIRST 9 HOLES AFTER SURGERY WITH JACKIE THE OTHER DAY. AND UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, .(CHUCKLE) IT WAS. IT WAS RIDICULOUS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AS I SAY, 80 YARDS BEHIND HIM. BUT IT -- THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

THEY . THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT AND UNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS DOING AND . AND UH, THEY KNOW THAT MY QUALITY OF LIFE REALLY WASN'T VERY GOOD FROM A . AN ACTIVITY STANDPOINT. UH,

MY QUALITY OF LIFE STILL BEING WITH MY FAMILY IS STILL PRETTY GOOD . EITHER WAY.

PETER KESSLER
80 YARDS SHORTER OR NOT, MOST OF US ARE CONVINCED THAT THERE ISN'T A TOURNAMENT THAT YOU COULDN'T HAVE WON JUST WITH 6-IRON, WEDGE, PUTTER. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. DON'T GO AWAY.

JACK NICKLAUS
(LAUGH)

BETTER BE A PRETTY . (FADES OUT TO MUSIC BEFORE BREAK)

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