Golf Talk Live - Jan Stephenson Transcript Segment 2

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PETER KESSLER
SO WHAT DO YOU THINK AS YOU SEE THESE SHOTS WHICH I'M SURE YOU HAVEN'T LOOKED AT PROBABLY SINCE YESTERDAY?

JAN STEPHENSON
(GIGGLE) OH NO, THESE ARE CUT - YOU GUYS GOT THESE OUT OF THE ARCHIVES.

PETER KESSLER
YOUR ARCHIVES.

JAN STEPHENSON
WOW .

PETER KESSLER
THAT'S NOT MARILYN, BUT IT IS YOU. IS THAT FUN?

JAN STEPHENSON
YOU KNOW HOW MANY - YOU KNOW HOW MANY HOURS IT TOOK TO WORK OUT TO GET TO BE THAT SKINNY? LOOK HOW SKINNY I WAS.

PETER KESSLER
HERE'S ANOTHER GREAT SHOT.

JAN STEPHENSON
YEAH, I WAS LIKE 14 YEARS OLD. CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?

PETER KESSLER
THE MOST CLOTHES BUT THE SEXIEST SHOT.

JAN STEPHENSON
WELL, I WAS LIKE 14.

PETER KESSLER
HOW OLD WERE YOU?

JAN STEPHENSON
I WAS - I WAS ABOUT 14 OR 15.

PETER KESSLER
THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE. NOBODY LOOKS LIKE THAT AT 14 OR 15.

JAN STEPHENSON
(LAUGHS)

PETER KESSLER
YOU KNOW, WHEN THE LADIES WHO STARTED THE TOUR STARTED IT, THEY UNDERSTOOD, JUST LIKE YOU UNDERSTOOD INSTINCTIVELY, THAT IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE PLAYING OF THE GAME,

THAT YOU ALSO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO BE ENTERTAINERS SO THAT YOU ATTRACT FANS AND SPONSORS AND MORE MONEY.

BABE ZAHARIAS UNDERSTOOD THAT. PATTY BERG UNDERSTOOD IT. YOU UNDERSTOOD IT. JOANNE CARNER UNDERSTOOD IT. PATTY SHEEHAN, NANCY LOPEZ .

BUT TODAY'S PLAYERS THINK THAT IT'S ENOUGH, A NUMBER OF THEM THINK IT IS ENOUGH TO SIMPLY SHOW UP, TO HIDE BEHIND SHADES, PLAY A GREAT GAME OF GOLF,

AND THEN BE INCREDIBLY PRIVATE FROM THAT MOMENT FORWARD AND NOT GIVE THE PUBLIC A SENSE OF WHO THEY ARE OR AN OPPORTUNITY TO FALL IN LOVE WITH

ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE QUALITY OF THEIR GOLF GAME. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT?

JAN STEPHENSON
IT'S - IT'S A HARD LINE TO TAKE. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND PERFECTLY THEIR ATTITUDE. IN FACT, I LOOK BACK NOW AND I ALMOST WISH I HADN'T DONE WHAT I'VE DONE - WHAT I DID.

PETER KESSLER
WHY?

JAN STEPHENSON
WELL, FOR SEVERAL REASONS, ONE, YOU - YOU . I THINK PEOPLE GET THIS UNPOPULARITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE UNPOPULAR BECAUSE YOU'RE PROMOTING YOURSELF AND NOT THE TOUR.

BUT I WAS ACTUALLY DOING IT FOR THE TOUR. BUT I LOOK BACK NOW AND I WASN'T REALLY APPRECIATED FOR ALL THE WORK I DID. I THINK OF THE TIMES THAT I FLEW - DID 'RED EYES',

SAY, FROM HAWAII TO NEW YORK TO MEET POTENTIAL SPONSORS OR TO DO A PHOTO-SHOOT TO HELP THE LPGA. AND THAT MAY BE THE REASON I'M NOT IN THE HALL OF FAME .

BECAUSE I WORKED SO HARD TO PROMOTE THE LPGA AND MYSELF. NOW, THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT I MADE A LOT OF MONEY FROM PROMOTIONS BECAUSE OF IT. AND IN THOSE DAYS, THE MONEY ON THE TOUR WASN'T THERE.

I MEAN, I WAS GETTING AS MUCH AS SECOND PLACE IN A TOURNAMENT TO GO HAVE A ONE DAY PHOTO-SHOOT OR DO A ONE DAY CORPORATE OUTING TO ENTERTAIN CUSTOMERS.

NOW IF YOU HAD SAID . YOU KNOW, NOW IF YOU TAKE SECOND PLACE, WHICH WOULD BE 100,000 TO GO DO IT, THEN I BET SOME OF THOSE GIRLS WOULD DO IT.

BUT WHEN YOU THINK THAT - THAT IF YOU DO A CORPORATE OUTING NOW, IT'S ONLY ONE PUTT OR ONE HOUR OF REST EXTRA COULD MAKE THAT MONEY, AND IT COULD ALSO TAKE YOU AWAY FROM MAKING HALL OF FAME .

I MEAN, I THINK NOW NOBODY APPRECIATES THE WORK I DID, NO ONE. UH, IF - EVERYONE IN THE LPGA IN THOSE DAYS KEPT SAYING,

'OH, EVERYONE IS GONNA THANK YOU. THEY'RE GONNA THINK YOU'RE THE GREATEST FOR DOING THAT.' NOBODY CARES.

PETER KESSLER
NOW, DIDN'T YOU APPRECIATE WHAT NANCY LOPEZ WAS DOING AT THE TIME? DIDN'T SHE TAKE A LITTLE PRESSURE OFF OF YOU? SHE CAME OUT WITH HER GREAT GOLF GAME.

SHE HAD A DIFFERENT WAY OF ATTRACTING FANS. YOU WERE MORE PROVOCATIVE. SHE WAS MORE ALL-AMERICAN. AND BOTH OF THEM WORK AND WORKED. DID YOU APPRECIATE OR RESENT THE INTRUSION ON YOUR TERRITORY AT THE TIME?

JAN STEPHENSON
OH, NOT AT ALL. NANCY AND I WORKED TOGETHER. BUT AGAIN, WE WERE - WE DON'T REALLY - WE WEREN'T REALLY WORKING THE SAME KIND OF CROWD. I MEAN, SHE HAD HER FANS AND I HAD MINE.

AND THEY WERE TOTALLY DIFFERENT. I MEAN, THEY ALWAYS PUT US AT DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE TEE TIMES. IF I HAD A MORNING TEE TIME, SHE HAD AN AFTERNOON TEE TIME AND VICE VERSA .

BECAUSE WE DID HAVE DIFFERENT GALLERIES. AND - AND UH, NANCY WAS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DRAW. SHE WAS A, YOU KNOW, A - A MOTHER AND UH, AND A GREAT PLAYER.

BUT SHE ALSO WOULDN'T DO A LOT OF THE PROMOTIONS. I MEAN, I STILL HAD TO DO SOME OF HER PRESS DAYS BECAUSE SHE WOULDN'T DO IT. SHE WANTED TO BE WITH HER FAMILY.

SO IT WAS JUST A DIFFERENT WAY OF GIVING TO THE GAME.

PETER KESSLER
YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED KARRIE WEBB A FEW MINUTES AGO, WHAT A GREAT HEAD SHE HAS ON HER SHOULDERS. AND OF COURSE, SHE'S GOT ONE OF THE GREATEST GAMES EVER TO PLAY THE LADIES TOUR.

WERE YOU SURPRISED AND DISAPPOINTED WHEN A FELLOW COUNTRYMAN WASN'T REALLY AWARE OF YOU IN TERMS OF YOUR - THE QUALITY OF YOUR PLAYING RECORD AND THE LENGTH OF THAT PLAYING RECORD AND THE DEPTH OF THAT RECORD?

JAN STEPHENSON
I WAS TERRIBLY DISAPPOINTED AT THAT. AND WE HAD A TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THINK SHE WAS QUITE SURPRISED AT THE REACTION UH OF THE - OF THE FANS.

I KNOW IN AUSTRALIA WHEN IT HAPPENED, WE HAD - THERE WERE RADIO CALL-INS AND PEOPLE WERE MAD WITH HER. AND - AND THERE LIKE VOTES ON 'WHO'S SIDE YOU WERE ON?' IN AUSTRALIA, IT WAS HUGE NEWS.

AND I WAS REALLY HURT AT FIRST. I MEAN, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOOD FRIENDS NOW. IN FACT, I INVITED HER TO BE MY PARTNER IN A FISHING TOURNAMENT IN THE KEYS. AND SHE ACCEPTED. AND .

AND WE'VE PLAYED A FEW TOURNAMENTS. IN FACT, WE'RE HAVING A JUNIOR-SENIOR TOURNAMENT AT THE END OF THE YEAR FOR OUR SENIORS. AND SHE'S GONNA BE MY PARTNER.

SO WE HAVE ACTUALLY WELL AND TRULY BURIED THE HATCHET. BUT UH, SHE KNOWS THAT I WAS HURT ABOUT THAT. BUT IT - AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THAT

IN AUSTRALIA THE MEDIA WERE SO MUCH ON MY CALENDARS AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER I WAS GOING TO POSE NAKED FOR PLAYBOY, IT DIDN'T EVEN MATTER THAT I'D WON.

I THINK THAT THE REASON I WAS GETTING SO MUCH PUBLICITY WAS BECAUSE I HAD WON A U.S. OPEN, AN LPGA CHAMPIONSHIP, AND A DU MAURIER. BUT IT WAS UM, I THINK .
SHE REALIZES NOW THAT I'VE WON THOSE EVENTS, THAT SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO WIN A U.S. OPEN, THAT IT'S PRETTY TOUGH TO DO. AND I THINK THINGS HAVE CHANGED NOW THOUGH. BUT I WAS UPSET AT FIRST.

PETER KESSLER
ARE YOU GRATEFUL OR ARE YOU A LITTLE BIT RELUCTANT THAT YOU BEGIN TO LET GO OF THAT SIDE OF YOUR IMAGE AND CONCENTRATE MORE ON GOLF? IS IT EASIER TO BE YOU NOW THAN IT WAS THEN?

JAN STEPHENSON
(CHUCKLE) NO. I TELL YOU, IT . (LAUGH)

IT'S TOUGH LOOKING IN THAT MIRROR. I DON'T LIKE SEEING . I MEAN, I . I MEAN UH, IT'S - IT'S TOUGH NOT BEING THE GLAMOUR GIRL ANYMORE. I MEAN, IT'S - IT'S REALLY HARD WHEN PEOPLE KNOW YOU FOR THAT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY CALL AND ASK YOU TO DO A CORPORATE OUTING. I'M LIKE, 'ARE YOU AWARE THAT I'M - HOW OLD I AM? I MEAN, I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE DISAPPOINTED WHEN I SHOW UP. I'M NOT A GLAMOUR GIRL ANYMORE.'

BUT THE GOOD THING IS THAT NOW PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO - TO RECOGNIZE . I'M - I'M BEING RECOGNIZED FOR OTHER THINGS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M DESIGNING GOLF COURSES. AND .

AND THEY'RE NOT DOING IT BECAUSE I POSED, YOU KNOW, IN A - IN A TUB OF GOLF BALLS. THEY'RE DOING IT BECAUSE I'M TALENTED WHICH IS PRETTY NEAT.

PETER KESSLER
IT IS PRETTY WONDERFUL. WE'RE GONNA TAKE A VERY SHORT BREAK. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH JAN STEPHENSON.

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