QA Kicking Yourself Grip Size

By Frank ThomasMay 30, 2007, 4:00 pm
Editor's Note: This is the latest in a weekly Q&A feature from GOLF CHANNEL's Chief Technical Advisor Frank Thomas. To submit a question for possible use in this column, email
Hi Frank,
I have a HiBore driver (11.5) with original Fujikura R flex (55g, low kick) shaft. I changed its shaft to a Proforce V2 High Launch L flex (52g, mid kick), thinking that it will give me a little extra distance. Nightmare happened. I not only lost the ball carry distance, but much of the time I couldn't even get the ball to launch. Does my problem have anything to do with kick point? I noticed a lot of new drivers come with mid kick shafts. What can I expect if I buy a driver with mid kick shaft and re-shaft it to one with a low kick point.
Thanks for your time.

Laura Davies
On 'Ask Frank,' Monday June 4 at 11:00 p.m. ET on GC, Laura Davies poses a question about wedges and grooves. (WireImage)
I bet you could kick yourself (mid, high or low) for making the change for a few extra yards.
To answer your question: you should expect changing from a mid-kick point shaft to a low-kick point shaft, all else being equal, the ball to be launched a little higher with a little more spin. The reason is that the lower kick point allows the shaft to bend a little more in the lower section.
In essence, during the bending process just before impact, the head is moving about a point with a shorter radius, which because of the moment arm created by the off line center of gravity (c.g.) of your driver will present a little more dynamic loft to the ball.
Please note I have said a little and I mean it. It is not very much and messing around with kick points is certainly not anything a golfer with a 10 handicap or greater should be concerned about in an attempt to increase distance.
I have mentioned this before and it is something which needs to be addressed and corrected; there are no common standards for shaft flex in the industry. In general, however, there are grades of flex from L (ladies) to XS (extra stiff) and a general guideline is that, the faster one swings, the stiffer the shaft one can effectively handle.
I believe you have been caught in the 'Hype Net' causing you to make two (perhaps unnecessary) changes, first with the shaft flex change, to an L from an R, and second the change in flex pattern (kick point) when you should have stayed with what you had if you were comfortable using it.
Comfort leads to confidence, which in turn leads to a better swing which results in more distance on average. If you are not happy with your driving distance, join the club of millions. Then; measure your launch conditions using a launch monitor which should be readily available at your local retail store or visit your local teaching professional who probably also has one of these devices.
Compare these conditions against the optimums I have listed by clicking here.
To change these launch conditions to optimize your distance, you should first make sure you have the most comfortable shaft flex for your swing type, then change the loft of your driver. You may also require a lesson and/or exercise and stretch to increase your range of motion.
The standard OEM shaft be it L,A,R,S or XS is the one I would recommend and if there are a variety of makes (just to suit the consumer who likes to have a choice) choose the make you like and select the correct flex range.
The last thing to do (unless you are readying yourself for a National Championship) is to mess with kick points.
This I hope will allow you to stop kicking yourself.
Frank - a player stripes a tee shot 280 dead center down the fairway.
Unfortunately, the ball comes to rest in the forward portion of a very deep un-replaced divot. Playing it as it lies is one of the most unfair rules of golf. This player has been penalized for a terrific shot. Moving the ball 1 inch to the left or right won't change the integrity of the game but it sure will change his 2nd shot. Why can't the USGA come up with a practical and fair solution to this BIG problem ? Thanks for your great work to help us weekend warriors.

This is not an equipment question but as a golfer and having spent a lot of time (26 years) at the USGA and also having talked about this issue, many times I would like to address it anyway. I hope it will help you understand the problem as I see it.
First, golf is not fair. We get good breaks and bad breaks and must live with them all.
Secondly, if we go back to the essence of the game we recognize that it is an activity, which allows us to evaluate ourselves. It is the personal challenge that brings us back over and over again, while also allowing us to enjoy the company of friends, compete against them in a wonderful environment, and even get a little exercise doing it.
If we want to make up our own rules, then this is OK. But we really do need some rules; otherwise there is no structure or order to the activity.
The USGA has developed some good rules for the game and the responsible committee works hard to try and make sure these make sense and in most cases, they do. The divot rule is a little more complex than it seems.
Let me explain. If you decide it is permissible to move the ball out of a divot because it creates something less than a perfect lie; I ask at what stage of the divot's self-healing process, will it no longer be considered a divot.
Many a time has my ball come to rest in a depression, which I really believed was a scar of an old divot. Do you think that I should be allowed to move it, or should I just accept it, complain a little and then move on to the next shot?
I do think that experiencing a divot as you describe is an indication that we do have some inconsiderate golfers. This is the real source of the problem, which we need to address, but allowing relief from this situation is going to make it hard to know where to draw the line and will also remove the incentive, or should I say obligation, for golfers to repair the damaged turf.
John, I hope this gives you a little different perspective and thank you for your kind words about the help we are providing. I hope you have signed up as a Frankly Friend (Click here to sign up).
Hi Frank, I enjoy reading your columns and I get a great deal of knowledge from them.
My question is with regards to grip size. I recently changed my grips and instead of going with the standard size grip replacement that was originally on my clubs, I got advice from the local store pro on the grip size I should be using. After a fitting it was determined that I should be using an oversized grip (one bigger than standard). So I replaced all my grips on my irons. The result is I have really been struggling with my irons, contact is poor and I tend to push and fade the ball now. Needless to say its been a very frustrating start to the season. Its this a result of the grips being too big?

This is a very good example of how the Rule of Thumb or should I say fingers around a grip may not always be right.
It is generally accepted that the fingers of the left hand (for a right handed golfer) when closed around the grip should not dig into, but only touch the meaty portion of the palm at the base of the left thumb. This is the guideline, but only that. If you were happy with the size of the old grips then you should not change the size when selecting a new set of grips.
You are really the only person who knows if the grip feels comfortable. The one thing in the fitting process that you have control of is grip size. Start with the suggested procedure unless you have already established a grip size you like.
There have been some studies regarding grip size and in the extreme a larger grip is inclined to restrict the wrists from rotating into the impact zone. This results in leaving the ball out to the right. I do not suggest, however, that if your ball flight is right with a slice that you change your grip size to correct this potential swing flaw. It is suggested that you feel comfortable gripping the club and once you have found the right grip size dont let anybody talk you out of it.
Neil, I am not sure that you can completely blame the grip for the bad behavior of your clubs but in this case, it sure sounds like the change could be the problem.
Hope this gives you a better grip on the problem.
Click to purchase the Frog PutterFrank Thomas, inventor of the graphite shaft, is founder of Frankly Golf, a company dedicated to Helping Golfers. Frank is Chief Technical Advisor to The Golf Channel and Golf Digest. He served as Technical Director of the USGA for 26 years and directed the development of the GHIN System and introduced the Stimpmeter to the world of golf. To email a question for possible use in an upcoming Let's Be Frank column, please email
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How to watch The Open on TV and online

By Golf Channel DigitalJuly 19, 2018, 5:40 am

You want to watch the 147th Open? Here’s how you can do it.

Golf Channel and NBC Sports will be televising 182 hours of overall programming from the men's third major of the year at Carnoustie

In addition to the traditional coverage, the two networks will showcase three live alternate feeds: marquee groups, featured holes (our new 3-hole channel) and spotlight action. You can also watch replays of full-day coverage, Thursday-Sunday, in the Golf Channel app, NBC Sports apps, and on  

Here’s the weekly TV schedule, with live stream links in parentheses. You can view all the action on the Golf Channel mobile, as well. Alternate coverage is noted in italics:

(All times Eastern; GC=Golf Channel; NBC=NBC Sports; or check the GLE app)

Monday, July 16

GC: 7-9AM: Morning Drive (

GC: 9-11AM: Live From The Open (

GC: 7-9PM: Live From The Open (

Tuesday, July 17

GC: 6AM-2PM: Live From The Open (

Wednesday, July 18

GC: 6AM-2PM: Live From The Open (

Thursday, July 19

GC: Midnight-1:30AM: Midnight Drive (

GC: Day 1: The Open, live coverage: 1:30AM-4PM ( Day 1: The Open, Spotlight: 1:30AM-4PM ( Day 1: The Open, Marquee Groups: 4AM-3PM ( Day 1: The Open, 3-Hole Channel: 4AM-3PM (

GC: Live From The Open: 4-5PM (

Friday, July 20

GC: Day 2: The Open, live coverage: 1:30AM-4PM ( Day 2: The Open, Spotlight: 1:30AM-4PM ( Day 2: The Open, Marquee Groups: 4AM-3PM ( Day 2: The Open, 3-Hole Channel: 4AM-3PM (

GC: Live From The Open: 4-5PM (

Saturday, July 21

GC: Day 3: The Open, live coverage: 4:30-7AM (

NBC: Rd. 3: The Open, live coverage: 7AM-3PM ( Day 3: The Open, Spotlight: 4:30AM-3PM ( Day 3: The Open, Marquee Groups: 5AM-3PM ( Day 3: The Open, 3-Hole Channel: 5AM-3PM (

GC: Live From The Open: 3-4PM (

Sunday, July 22

GC: Day 4: The Open, live coverage: 4:30-7AM (

NBC: Rd. 4: The Open, live coverage: 7AM-2:30PM ( Day 4: The Open, Spotlight: 4:30AM-2:30PM ( Day 4: The Open, Marquee Groups: 5AM-2PM ( Day 4: The Open, 3-Hole Channel: 5AM-2PM (

GC: Live From The Open: 2:30-4PM (

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The Open 101: A guide to the year's third major

By Golf Channel DigitalJuly 19, 2018, 5:30 am

Take a look at some answers to frequently asked questions about The Open:

What's all this "The Open" stuff? I thought it was the British Open.

What you call it has historically depended on where you were. If you were in the U.S., you called it the British Open, just as Europeans refer to the PGA Championship as the U.S. PGA. Outside the U.S. it generally has been referred to as The Open Championship. The preferred name of the organizers is The Open.

How old is it?

It's the oldest golf championship, dating back to 1860.

Where is it played?

There is a rotation – or "rota" – of courses used. Currently there are 10: Royal Birkdale, Royal St. George's, Royal Liverpool and Royal Lytham and St. Annes, all in England; Royal Portrush in Northern Ireland and St. Andrews, Carnoustie, Royal Troon, Turnberry and Muirfield, all in Scotland. Muirfield was removed from the rota in 2016 when members voted against allowing female members, but when the vote was reversed in 2017 it was allowed back in.

Where will it be played this year?

At Carnoustie, which is located on the south-eastern shore of Scotland.

Who has won The Open on that course?

Going back to the first time Carnoustie hosted, in 1931, winners there have been Tommy Armour, Henry Cotton (1937), Ben Hogan (1953), Gary Player (1968), Tom Watson (1975), Paul Lawrie (1999), Padraig Harrington (2007).

Wasn't that the year Hogan nearly won the Slam?

Yep. He had won the Masters and U.S. Open that season, then traveled to Carnoustie and won that as well. It was the only time he ever played The Open. He was unable to play the PGA Championship that season because the dates conflicted with those of The Open.

Jean Van de Velde's name should be on that list, right?

This is true. He had a three-shot lead on the final hole in 1999 and made triple bogey. He lost in a playoff to Lawrie, which also included Justin Leonard.

Who has won this event the most?

Harry Vardon, who was from the Channel Island of Jersey, won a record six times between 1896 and 1914. Australian Peter Thomson, American Watson, Scot James Braid and Englishman J.H. Taylor each won five times.

What about the Morrises?

Tom Sr. won four times between 1861 and 1867. His son, Tom Jr., also won four times, between 1868 and 1872.

Have players from any particular country dominated?

In the early days, Scots won the first 29 Opens – not a shocker since they were all played at one of three Scottish courses, Prestwick, St. Andrews and Musselburgh. In the current era, going back to 1999 (we'll explain why that year in a minute), the scoreboard is United States, nine wins; South Africa, three wins; Ireland, two wins; Northern Ireland, two wins; and Sweden, one win. The only Scot to win in that period was Lawrie, who took advantage of one of the biggest collapses in golf history.

Who is this year's defending champion?

That would be American Jordan Spieth, who survived an adventerous final round to defeat Matt Kuchar by three strokes and earn the third leg of the career Grand Slam.

What is the trophy called?

The claret jug. It's official name is the Golf Champion Trophy, but you rarely hear that used. The claret jug replaced the original Challenge Belt in 1872. The winner of the claret jug gets to keep it for a year, then must return it (each winner gets a replica to keep).

Which Opens have been the most memorable?

Well, there was Palmer in 1961and '62; Van de Velde's collapse in 1999; Hogan's win in 1953; Tiger Woods' eight-shot domination of the 2000 Open at St. Andrews; Watson almost winning at age 59 in 2009; Doug Sanders missing what would have been a winning 3-foot putt at St. Andrews in 1970; Tony Jacklin becoming the first Briton to win the championship in 18 years; and, of course, the Duel in the Sun at Turnberry in 1977, in which Watson and Jack Nicklaus dueled head-to-head over the final 36 holes, Watson winning by shooting 65-65 to Nicklaus' 65-66.

When I watch this tournament on TV, I hear lots of unfamiliar terms, like "gorse" and "whin" and "burn." What do these terms mean?

Gorse is a prickly shrub, which sometimes is referred to as whin. Heather is also a shrub. What the scots call a burn, would also be considered a creek or stream.

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Four players vying for DJ's No. 1 ranking at Open

By Ryan LavnerJuly 18, 2018, 8:41 pm

CARNOUSTIE, Scotland – Four players have an opportunity to overtake Dustin Johnson for world No. 1 this week.

According to Golf Channel world-rankings guru Alan Robinson, Justin Thomas, Justin Rose, Brooks Koepka and Jon Rahm each can grab the top spot in the world ranking.

Thomas’ path is the easiest. He would return to No. 1 with either a win and Johnson finishing worse than solo third, or even a solo runner-up finish as long as Johnson finishes worse than 49th.

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Twenty years after his auspicious performance in The Open, Rose can get to No. 1 for the first time with a victory and Johnson finishing worse than a two-way tie for third.

Kopeka can rise to No. 1 if he wins consecutive majors, assuming that his good friend posts worse than a three-way tie for third.

And Rahm can claim the top spot with a win this week, a Johnson missed cut and a Thomas finish of worse than solo second.   

Johnson’s 15-month reign as world No. 1 ended after The Players. He wasn’t behind Thomas for long, however: After a tie for eighth at the Memorial, Johnson blew away the field in Memphis and then finished third at the U.S. Open to solidify his position at the top.