Golf Talk Live - Bernard Gallacher Transcript Segment 1
SCOTLAND'S BERNARD GALLACHER WON 15 EUROPEAN TOUR EVENTS. WAS AN 8 TIME RYDER CUP PLAYER AND 3 TIME RYDER CUP CAPTAIN. HE CARVED OUT HIS SUCCESS AS A PLAYER IN CANTON WHILE STILL
ESSENTIALLY A FAMILY MAN AND CLUB PRO AT WENTWORTH GOLF CLUB OUTSIDE LONDON. MEET THE BALANCED BERNARD GALLACHER, NOW ON GOLF TALK LIVE.
IN 1968 WHEN BERNARD WAS 20, HE WAS ROOKIE OF THE YEAR ON THE EUROPEAN TOUR. HE WON THE ORDER OF MERIT AND THE VARDON TROPHY IN 1969 AND MADE HIS FIRST RYDER CUP TEAM AS A PLAYER.
THAT WAS THE YEAR JACK NICKLAUS CONCEDED TONY JACKLIN'S MISABLE PUTT ON THE FINAL HOLE WHICH ENSURED A TIE TO THE MATCHES, AND RETENTION OF THE CUP FOR THE AMERICANS. IT WAS ALSO A YEAR THAT BERNARD GALLACHER DEFEATED LEE TREVINO IN THEIR SINGLES MATCH. HE ALWAYS HAD A SENSE OF
BALANCE, WANTED TO BE NEAR HIS FAMILY, THOUGHT OF HIMSELF AS A CLUB PRO WHO PLAYED 15 EVENTS A SEASON. HIS CAREER AS A PLAYER WAS MARKED BY CONSISTENCY AND A BRILLIANT SHORT GAME. BERNARD REPRESENTED SCOTLAND 5 TIMES IN THE
WORLD CUP. WON THE DUNLAP MASTERS TWICE AND THE SPANISH AND FRENCH OPENS AS A PART TIME PLAYER. BERNARD BECAME EUROPEAN RYDER CUP CAPTAIN TONY JACKLIN'S ASSISTANT IN THE MID 80'S AND
WHEN TONY STEPPED ASIDE, BERNARD BECAME CAPTAIN IN 1991 AND STAYED AS CAPTAIN UNTIL HIS TEAM WON BRILLIANTLY. THE UNITED STATES AT OAK HILL IN 1995. AND HE DID THESE THINGS WHILE RAISING THREE CHILDREN AND TEACHING BAD GOLFERS TO BE BETTER AT THE WENTWORTH CLUB. HE
HAS BEEN AWARDED THE ORDER OF THE BRITISH EMPIRE, HAS A STREET NAMED AFTER HIM NEAR HIS BIRTHPLACE IN SCOTLAND, AND A LIFE SIZE STATUE WAS ERECTED IN HIS HONOR AT THE BURMA ROAD COURSE AT WENTWORTH. A REMINDER THAT
YOU CAN STILL MAKE YOUR MARK WHILE STILL MAKING A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION.
WELCOME TO GOLF TALK LIVE, I'M PETER KESSLER. GREAT PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO ONE OF SCOTLAND'S GIFTS TO GOLF, BERNARD GALLACHER. PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE, SIR.
THANKS, NICE TO BE HERE.
HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY TO YOU.
YEAH, THANKS VERY MUCH.
COMING FROM THE HOME OF SCOTLAND, DID THEY LET YOU WALK BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY HAD A CLUB IN YOUR HAND?
OH YEAH, YEAH. EVERYONE IN SCOTLAND PLAYS GOLF. EVERY VILLAGE HAS GOT A GOLF COURSE AND WE ALL LIKE PLAYING GOLF IT'S, WE'RE GOOD AT, WE'RE BETTER AT SOCCER THAN GOLF BUT WE ALL LIKE TO PLAY GOLF.
WHAT WERE YOU BETTER AT, SOCCER OR GOLF?
UM... WELL I CERTAINLY PLAYED A LOT OF FOOTBALL. WE CALL IT FOOTBALL, IN SCOTLAND AND UH YOU KNOW 12 YEAR OLD RIGHT THROUGH TO OUR 16. IT WAS, FOOTBALL IN THE WINTER, GOLF IN THE SUMMER AND BY THE TIME I GOT TO 16
I WAS A BIT BETTER AT GOLF SO I TURNED MY ATTENTION MORE TO GOLF.
WHEN DID YOU FIRST START TO PLAY?
I PLAYED GOLF WHEN I WAS ABOUT 9 YEAR OLD. I USED TO CADDIE FOR MY UNCLE ON THE GOLF COURSE AT BATHGATE WHICH IS QUITE OUTSIDE EDINBOROUGH AND IN BETWEEN CADDYING I WOULD HIT A FEW BALLS AND IT WAS JUST HOW I STARTED.
WHAT KIND OF PLAYER WAS YOUR DAD?
MY DAD WAS ABOUT A 14 HANDICAP WHEN HE WAS AT HIS BEST. HE PEAKED AT 14.
AND THEN HE WENT BACK DOWN TO BE AN 18 HANDICAP AND I THINK HE WAS QUITE HAPPY BEING AN 18 HANDICAP. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS LIFE WHO ARE QUITE HAPPY BEING 18 HANDICAPPERS AND YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST NICE TO HAVE A HANDICAP HE'S QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH (LAUGHS).
WHO WERE YOUR GOLF HEROES WHEN YOU WERE GROWING UP?
GARY PLAYER, ARNOLD PALMER... PROBABLY ERIC BROWN... PEOPLE IN AMERICA MAYBE HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH OF ERIC BROWN BUT HE BEAT, HE WAS A RYDER CUP CAPTAIN AS WELL.
ERIC OF COURSE BEAT TOMMY BOLT IN SINGLES IN THE '57 RYDER CUP.
AND THEN AFTERWARDS TOMMY SAID I CAN'T SAY I ENJOYED THE MATCH VERY MUCH AND WHAT DID ERIC SAY TO HIM?
HE SAID WELL I THINK YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO ENJOY THE MATCH VERY MUCH AND YOU WERE BEATEN. YEAH.
I REMEMBER ASKING ERIC BROWN WHAT WAS THE BEST SHOT HE EVER SAW IN GOLF AND HE SAID, QUICK AS A FLASH, ERIC SAID THE BEST SHOT I EVER SAW WAS TOMMY BOLT'S SECOND SHOT IN THE RYDER CUP IN, IN 1957 AT LINDRICK. HE SAID HE HIT THIS
TOWERING 4 IRON SHOT. IT WAS FADING INTO THE FLAG OVER THE LEFT HAND TRAP. IT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT OVER THE TRAP AND IT PLUGGED RIGHT UNDERNEATH THE BUNKER, UNPLAYABLE, HE SAID. THAT WAS THE BEST SHOT I EVER SAW IN GOLF. THAT REALLY WAS ERIC BROWN FOR YOU.
IS THAT WHAT YOU ALWAYS WANTED TO DO? PLAY GOLF? OR WAS THERE SOME OTHER DREAM THAT YOU HAD WHEN YOU WERE YOUNGER?
WHEN I WAS AT SCHOOL I THOUGH I MIGHT BE A DENTIST. I WAS THINKING ABOUT DENTISTRY, BUT, THE STUDYING TO BE A DENTIST WAS GOING TO INTERRUPT MY GOLF AND SO, I TURNED PRO WHEN I WAS 17 AND UH THAT WAS QUITE YOUNG. LOOKING BACK I DON'T
KNOW WHAT, HOW I HAD THE CONFIDENCE TO TURN PRO WHEN I WAS 17. BUT I TURNED PRO AT 17 AND I WANTED TO PLAY A FEW YEARS PLAYING IN TOURNAMENTS AND THEN TURN MY ATTENTION TO BEING A CLUB PRO BECAUSE I NEVER AT ANY MOMENT WHEN
I TURNED PRO THOUGHT YOU COULD ACTUALLY MAKE A LIVING OR, AS A CLUB, AS A TOURING PRO. WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THAT MANY TOURNAMENTS, ONLY 15, 12 TOURNAMENTS A YEAR MAYBE, AND THEY ONLY LASTED APRIL TILL
SEPTEMBER. I MEAN WHO WOULD THINK TODAY IN EUROPE THAT WE'RE PLAYING FOR NEARLY 40 MILLION POUNDS. 35 NEARLY 40 TOURNAMENTS A YEAR. I MEAN IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE THAT YOU, YOU, YOU
COULDN'T THINK THIS WOULD EVER, ENVISAGE THIS WOULD EVER HAPPEN.
SO I WANTED TO PLAY A LITTLE BIT TOURNAMENT GOLF AND THEN BECOME A CLUB PRO. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO BE.
WAS THERE NEVER A DREAM TO BE THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD?
UM, WELL, I MEAN, LIKE EVERY ONE ELSE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT WINNING THE BRITISH OPEN. YOU WANT TO WIN THE BRITISH OPEN OR PLAY IN THE RYDER CUP, AND THAT, THAT'S REALLY WHAT YOU, YOU DID, YOU
KNOW YOU PLAYED WHEN YOU WERE A YOUNGSTER AND YOU PRETENDED ON THE LAST GREEN THAT THIS WAS A PUTT TO WIN THE BRITISH OPEN. YOU TRIED TO BUILD UP WITH PRESSURE AND SEE HOW YOU COULD HANDLE IT, SO, WE, WE NEVER, WE NEVER
THOUGHT, YOU KNOW TRAVELING IN THOSE DAYS WAS VERY DIFFICULT. WE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT TRAVELING TO AMERICA TO PLAY OR... I MEAN, WE HAD VERY MODEST AMBITIONS. IT WAS REALLY ABOUT PLAYING IN BRITAIN, REALLY.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE GAME CAME EASILY TO YOU?
NO, THE GAME WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO ME. IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND IT'S MAINLY BECAUSE I STARTED, WE DIDN'T HAVE A PROFESSIONAL AT BATHGATE, MY OWN GOLF CLUB AND I HAD TO COPY ALL THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE CLUB. THE SWING I HAD WAS A COPIED SWING FROM THE BEST
PLAYER IN THE CLUB AND I STARTED PLAYING GOLF WITH A VERY BAD GRIP, A VERY STRONG GRIP AND BECAUSE YOU START WITH A STRONG GRIP, YOU START WITH A CLOSED CLUBFACE AT THE TOP AND YOU'RE FIGHTING A HOOK, AND BECAUSE I WAS FIGHTING A HOOK, I, I COULDN'T PLAY A DRIVER, I HAD TO PLAY A TWO WOOD, BUT I
DIDN'T KNOW WHY, AND I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THIS ADVISE OR THIS KNOWLEDGE THAT I REALLY WANTED AND THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TODAY TO, IF YOU'RE GOING TO, IF YOU'VE GOT CHILDREN, SMALL KIDS TO START, START GOLF WITH A PROPER GOLF LESSON. THEY DON'T NEED MASSES OF
LESSONS BUT THEY NEED A PRO TO SHOW THEM HOW TO STAND TO THE BALL, HOW TO GRIP THE CLUB PROPERLY AND THEN LET THEM GO AND PRACTICE. GIVE THEM THE FREEDOM TO HIT BALLS, BUT I, I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THAT, THAT, THAT ADVISE
AT THE START AND IT WAS, I FOUND GOLF, I'VE ALWAYS FOUND GOLF QUITE DIFFICULT. I HAD TO PRACTICE A LOT, WORK IT OUT FOR MYSELF AND I DIDN'T HAVE MY FIRST GOLF LESSON TILL I WAS ABOUT 16 YEAR OLD, AND YOU KNOW I TURNED PRO WHEN I WAS 17, SO
YOU'RE A QUICK LEARNER THEN.
WELL YES, BUT, I'VE, I'VE HAD TO PRACTICE AND I'VE HAD TO SEEK ADVISE FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS.
WERE YOU THE BEST TEENAGE PLAYER THAT YOU KNEW?
THAT I KNEW. I WAS THE BEST PLAYER AT THE CLUB, EVENTUALLY, AT MY OWN GOLF CLUB, BUT WE HAD A LOT OF GOOD PLAYERS AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT INSPIRED ME, TRYING TO, TO BEAT THE PLAYERS MY AGE, MY PEERS.
WHEN YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT THERE WASN'T MUCH MONEY I THOUGHT OF YOUR FIRST GREAT YEAR IN 1969 WHERE YOU WON A COUPLE OF TOURNAMENTS IN AFRICA AND A COUPLE OF TOURNAMENTS IN GREAT BRITAIN, AND OF COURSE FOR THE WHOLE YEAR, IN THIS GREAT YEAR WHEN YOU'RE
TWENTY YEARS OLD AND LEADING THE ORDER OF MERIT AND WINNING THE HARRY VARDON TROPHY, YOU WON LIKE 5000 POUNDS, WHICH IS ABOUT
WELL IT WAS ABOUT 7000 POUNDS
7000 FOR THE YEAR?
I DIDN'T REALIZE
THAT OTHER COUPLE, BUT THAT'S 14, 15 THOUSAND DOLLARS AT
THE TIME IN AMERICAN DOLLARS
WELL... IT WAS A LOT OF MONEY TOO, AND I BOUGHT A HOUSE WITH THAT MONEY. IT WAS THE FIRST THING I DID. I BOUGHT MYSELF A HOUSE, OR I BOUGHT MY PARENTS A HOUSE. SO, THAT'S HOW MONEY, HOW THE VALUE OF MONEY... DOESN'T SOUND MUCH TODAY BUT YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T REALLY
PLAY, I DIDN'T REALLY COME IN, ALTHOUGH I WANTED TO MAKE A LIVING FROM GOLF I WAS MORE INTERESTED IN TOURNAMENTS. I WANTED TO, I WAS JUST SO PLEASED TO PLAY AND QUALIFY FOR THE EVENTS AND WIN A
TOURNAMENT AND FINISH SECOND IN A TOURNAMENT. THAT'S REALLY AND, SOMEBODY GAVE YOU MONEY AT THE END AND THAT WAS GREAT (LAUGHS). GOT MONEY AT THE END OF IT TOO.
LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT 1969 WHEN WE COME BACK. DON'T GO AWAY.
Storms halt Barbasol before Lincicome tees off
NICHOLASVILLE, Ky. - Brittany Lincicome will have to wait until the weekend to resume her bid to make the cut in a PGA Tour event.
Overnight storms delayed the start of the second round Friday in the Barbasol Championship, and an afternoon thunderstorm suspended competition for good. The round will resume Saturday morning with much of the field still to play.
The second stoppage at Champions Trace at Keene Trace Golf Club came 20 minutes before Lincicome's scheduled tee time.
Lincicome was near the bottom of the field after opening with a 6-over 78 on Thursday. The first LPGA player since Michelle Wie in 2008 to start a PGA Tour event, she needs a huge rebound to join Babe Zaharias (1945) as the only female players to make the cut.
Troy Merritt had the clubhouse lead at 15 under, following an opening 62 with a 67.
Third-round tee times for the 147th Open
CARNOUSTIE, Scotland – Eighteen major champions made the cut at The Open and will be playing the weekend at Carnoustie, including 60-year-old ageless wonder Bernhard Langer, and both major champs so far this year, Patrick Reed and Brooks Koepka.
Twenty-four-year-old Gavin Green will be first off solo Saturday at 4:15 a.m. ET. Reed and Rhys Enoch will follow along 10 minutes later.
Phil Mickelson and Tiger Woods, both at even par for the tournament, six shots behind leaders Zach Johnson and Kevin Kisner, are in consecutive groups. Mickelson is playing with Austin Cook at 8:05 a.m. and Woods is with South Africa’s Shaun Norris at 8:15 a.m.
Jordan Spieth and Rickie Fowler, both three shots off the lead, are also in consecutive groups. Fowler is at 10 a.m. with Thorbjorn Olesen and Spieth is 10 minutes later with Kevin Chappell. Rory McIlroy, looking to win his first major since the 2014 PGA Championship, is at 10:40 a.m. with Xander Schauffele. McIlroy is two shots behind.
Johnson and Kisner are last off at 11 a.m.
4:15AM ET: Gavin Green
4:25AM ET: Rhys Enoch, Patrick Reed
4:35AM ET: Kiradech Aphibarnrat, Justin Rose
4:45AM ET: Yusaku Miyazato, Tyrrell Hatton
4:55AM ET: Ross Fisher, Keegan Bradley
5:05AM ET: Ryan Fox, Jason Dufner
5:15AM ET: Bryson DeChambeau, Henrik Stenson
5:25AM ET: Tom Lewis, Sam Locke (a)
5:35AM ET: Paul Casey, Chris Wood
5:45AM ET: Bernhard Langer, Rafa Cabrera Bello
6:00AM ET: Paul Dunne, Brett Rumford
6:10AM ET: Masahiro Kawamura, Shubhankar Sharma
6:20AM ET: Cameron Smith, Brendan Steele
6:30AM ET: Marc Leishman, Lee Westwood
6:40AM ET: Byeong Hun An, Kevin Na
6:50AM ET: Julian Suri, Adam Hadwin
7:00AM ET: Gary Woodland, Si-Woo Kim
7:10AM ET: Yuta Ikeda, Satoshi Kodaira
7:20AM ET: Marcus Kinhult, Thomas Pieters
7:30AM ET: Beau Hossler, Haotong Li
7:45AM ET: Cameron Davis, Sean Crocker
7:55AM ET: Louis Oosthuizen, Stewart Cink
8:05AM ET: Phil Mickeslon, Austin Cook
8:15AM ET: Tiger Woods, Shaun Norris
8:25AM ET: Lucas Herbert, Michael Kim
8:35AM ET: Jason Day, Francesco Molinari
8:45AM ET: Sung Kang, Webb Simpson
8:55AM ET: Patrick Cantlay, Eddie Pepperell
9:05AM ET: Matthew Southgate, Brooks Koepka
9:15AM ET: Kyle Stanley, Adam Scott
9:30AM ET: Charley Hoffman, Alex Noren
9:40AM ET: Ryan Moore, Brandon Stone
9:50AM ET: Luke List, Danny Willett
10:00AM ET: Thorbjorn Olesen, Rickie Fowler
10:10AM ET: Jordan Spieth, Kevin Chappell
10:20AM ET: Zander Lombard, Tony Finau
10:30AM ET: Matt Kuchar, Erik Van Rooyen
10:40AM ET: Rory McIlroy, Xander Schauffele
10:50AM ET: Pat Perez, Tommy Fleetwood
11:00AM ET: Kevin Kisner, Zach Johnson
Facial hair Fowler's new good-luck charm
CARNOUSTIE, Scotland – Before, during and after the Fourth of July, Rickie Fowler missed a few appointments with his razor.
He arrived in the United Kingdom for last week’s Scottish Open still unshaved and he tied for sixth place. Fowler, like most golfers, can give in to superstition, so he's decided to keep the caveman look going for this week’s Open Championship.
“There could be some variations,” he smiled following his round on Friday at Carnoustie.
At this rate, he may never shave again. Fowler followed an opening 70 with a 69 on Friday to move into a tie for 11th place, just three strokes off the lead.
Fowler also has some friendly competition in the beard department, with his roommate this week Justin Thomas also going for the rugged look.
“I think he kind of followed my lead in a way. I think he ended up at home, and he had a little bit of scruff going. It's just fun,” Fowler said. “We mess around with it. Obviously, not taking it too seriously. But like I said, ended up playing halfway decent last week, so I couldn't really shave it off going into this week.”
Spieth (67) rebounds from tough Round 1 finish
CARNOUSTIE, Scotland – Guess whose putter is starting to heat up again at a major?
Even with a few wayward shots Friday at Carnoustie, Jordan Spieth made a significant climb up the leaderboard in the second round, firing a 4-under 67 to move just three shots off the lead.
Spieth showed his trademark grit in bouncing back from a rough finish Thursday, when he mis-clubbed on the 15th hole, leading to a double bogey, and ended up playing the last four holes in 4 over.
“I don’t know if I actually regrouped,” he said. “It more kind of fires me up a little.”
Spieth missed more than half of his fairways in the second round, but he was able to play his approach shots from the proper side of the hole. Sure, he “stole a few,” particularly with unlikely birdies on Nos. 10 and 11 after errant drives, but he took advantage and put himself in position to defend his claret jug.
Spieth needed only 25 putts in the second round, and he credited a post-round adjustment Thursday for the improvement. The tweak allows his arms to do more of the work in his stroke, and he said he felt more confident on the greens.
“It’s come a long way in the last few months, no doubt,” he said.
More than anything, Spieth was relieved not to have to play “cut-line golf” on Friday, like he’s done each start since his spirited run at the Masters.
“I know that my swing isn’t exactly where I want it to be; it’s nowhere near where it was at Birkdale,” he said. “But the short game is on point, and the swing is working in the right direction to get the confidence back.”