Golf Talk Live - Bernard Gallacher Transcript Segment 3
YOU KNOW LONG BEFORE THERE WERE WARS AT THE SHORES AND, AND PEOPLE JUMPING UP AND DOWN ON GREENS, THERE WAS THE DAVE HILL - KEN STILL
MATCH OF 1969 THAT YOU WERE INVOLVED IN. TELL US ABOUT THE 7TH AND 8TH HOLES.
WELL IT WAS ERIC BROWN, OUR CAPTAIN HAD US REALLY WOUN... WELL HAD ME AT LEAST WOUND UP ALL WEEK, YOU KNOW, GO OUT, GO AND GET THEM, AND BRIAN HUGGIT WAS REALLY TEMPERAMENTALLY
QUITE AGGRESSIVE AS WELL, AND WE
PLAYED IN A FOUR BALL MATCH AGAINST DAVE HILL AND KEN STILL AND IT REALLY STARTED ON THE FIRST GREEN AT ROYAL BIRKDALE, BECAUSE BRIAN HUGGIT HAD SOME SORT OF PUTT FOR THE WIN OR,
EV... MAYBE FOR THE HALVE, BUT HE SUDDENLY STOOD BACK FROM HIS PUTT AND LOOKED AROUND AT DAVE HILL AND SAID STOP WALKING AROUND WHEN I'M PUTTING BECAUSE DAVE HILL IN THOSE DAYS, HE WAS A SORT OF JUMPY SORT OF GUY. CHAIN SMOKER AND HE WASN'T
TRYING TO PUT US OFF, HE WOULD JUST SORT OF MOVE, JUST AGITATED AND READY TO GO, BUT, IT WOULDN'T HAVE UPSET ME BUT IT OBVIOUSLY UPSET BRIAN SO WE GOT OFF TO A BAD START, AND THEN ON THE 7TH HOLE DAVE PUTTED OUT OF TURN. HE JUST SIMPLY PUTTED OUT OF
TURN. HE ROLLED UP FROM 20, 20 FEET AWAY AND KNOCKED IT UP 2 FEET AWAY AND PROCEEDED TO PUTT OUT AND BRIAN HUGGIT SAID YOU CAN'T DO THAT. AND I LOOKED AND I WASN'T SURE WHAT YOU COULDN'T DO BECAUSE
I WAS QUIET YOUNG AND I SAID NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT. I WOULD SUPPORT MY PARTNER.... AND BRIAN SAID YOU PUTTED OUT OF TURN THERE, AND THE REFEREE, WE DIDN'T HAVE PROFESSIONAL REFEREES IN THOSE DAYS. WE HAD CLUB PROS, LIKE
BEING A CLUB PRO WALKING AROUND WITH A RULE BOOK, AND HE'S LOOKING THROUGH THIS RULE BOOK TRYING TO FIND THE RULE OF PUTTING OUT OF TURN IN A FOUR BALL AND HE COULDN'T FIND IT RIGHT AWAY, AND KEN STILL CHARGES ON
TO THE GREEN AND HE SAID IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU GUYS WANT TO PLAY THIS GAME TAKE THE HOLE, SO BRIAN AND I LOOKED AT EACH OTHER AND THINK WELL THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CONCESSION TO US
SO FINE WE PICKED OUR BALL UP AND WENT, THEN THE REFEREE FOUND THE RULE AND SAID REPLACE IT AND BRIAN HUGGIT SAID NO, HE SAID, HE, HE'S CONCEDED THE HOLE TO US AND SO THAT WAS IT. WE SUDDENLY GO ONE UP AND
YOU KNOW DAVE HILL AND KEN STILL ARE SO MAD AND SO ANGRY WITH US AND KEN STILL COULDN'T HAVE SHOT AFTER THAT BECAUSE HE WAS SO ANGRY AND DAVE HILL, WHO'S A GOOD SWINGER OF THE CLUB, A REALLY GOOD PLAYER, VERY
CORRECT, HE INSPIRED DAVE HILL, HE WAS REALLY, STARTED TO PLAY OUT OF HIS BOOTS NOW AND HE REALLY BEAT US ON HIS, ON HIS OWN. BRIAN HUGGIT AND I PLAYED PRETTY WELL AND THE CROWD WERE REALLY FOR US AND THE CROWD
WERE BOOING THEM, AND AS YOU, WHEN WE GOT ON THE 8TH FOR INSTANCE, I PUTTED DOWN, DICK KEN STILL PUTTED DOWN ABOUT SIX FEET AWAY BUT HE WAS INSIDE DAVE HILL'S PUTT. HE WAS LYING ABOUT SEVEN FEET AWAY SO I WENT ACROSS AND PICKED UP HIS BALL AND SAID YOU CAN HAVE THAT PUTT, BUT HE WANTED TO PUTT IT. HE SAID YOU CAN'T
DO THAT. I SAID YEAH I CAN GIVE YOU, I'VE JUST GIVEN YOU THE PUTT, BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT HIM TO PUTT IT AND SHOW
DAVID HILL THE LINE.
BUT HE GOT A BIT MIXED UP WITH THE PREVIOUS GREEN AND HE, KEN, KEN STILL, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS JUST HOPE, I JUST HOPE THAT SOME DAY WE MEET AGAIN. WE CAN SIT DOWN, HAVE A DRINK AND TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY,
THEY WERE REALLY VERY COMPETITIVE BACK THERE, BUT DAVE HILL, THERE'S NO HAPPY ENDING AS FAR AS WE'RE CONCERNED BECAUSE DAVE HILL EAGLED THE 17TH TO BEAT US TWO AND ONE AND I
THINK IF THERE WAS A MORAL TO THIS STORY IS DON'T GET DAVE HILL MAD BECAUSE WHEN HE GETS MAD HE REALLY DOES PLAY GREAT.
AND OF COURSE THE NEXT YEAR HE GOT MAD BECAUSE HE DIDN'T LIKE THE HAZELTINE GOLF COURSE WHERE THE U.S OPEN WAS AND HE WON BY SEVEN SHOTS.
YEAH, WELL HE
BECAUSE HE WAS ANGRY.
HE'S IN, WELL, IN THOSE DAYS HE WAS AN ANGRY GUY. HE WAS IN, BRIAN HUGGIT AND I WERE PRETTY ANGRY TOO SO THERE WAS THREE ANGRY GUYS AND KEN STILL PLAYING, AND SO WHEN THEY TALK
ABOUT BOSTON AND THE WAR ON THE SHORE NOW, BACK IN '69 IT WAS,
YOU KNOW, IT WAS PRETTY, IT WAS A PRETTY FACIFEROUS ANGRY MATCH TOO.
IN '69, LEE TREVINO WAS AT THE TOP OF HIS GAME
HE WON THE U.S. OPEN THE YEAR BEFORE. TELL US THE SWEET MEMORIES YOU HAVE OF BEATING HIM IN SINGLES IN '69.
WELL PREV... IN THE PREVIOUS, EARLIER IN THE SUMMER I HAD PLAYED LEE TREVINO IN A MATCH IN SCOTLAND AGAINST ORVILLE MOODIE AND UH, WHO HAD WON THE U.S. OPEN THAT YEAR AND
I HAD, I HAD BEATEN THEM BOTH IN A MATCH, AN EXHIBITION MATCH IN SCOTLAND IN FRONT OF QUITE A LOT OF PEOPLE SO YOU KNOW I WASN'T, I WAS UP TO PLAYING THEM AND I HAD ERIC BROWN, OUR CAPTAIN HAD RESTED ME FROM THE MORNING SINGLES. IN THOSE DAYS WE PLAYED TWO SETS OF SINGLES
THE LAST DAY AND I WASN'T SURE IF I WAS GOING TO PLAY IN THE AFTERNOON, AND ERIC, QUITE RIGHTLY, AND THIS IS A GOOD CAPTAIN, HE KEPT ME ON, HE DIDN'T SAY I WAS PLAYING, HE DIDN'T SAY I WASN'T PLAYING, HE SAID JUST BE READY
IN CASE I NEED YOU AND ALL MORNING I WAS WAITING, AM I GOING TO PLAY AND I WAS DIEING TO GET OUT THERE AND PLAY AND HE SAID, RIGHT, YOU'RE PLAYING THIS AFTERNOON, YOU'RE PLAYING LEE TREVINO AND I START RUN ONTO THAT
TEE AND I, I DON'T REMEMBER BEING APPREHENSIVE. I, I JUST WANTED TO PUT A GOOD SHOW ON AND I RAN OUT FOUR AND THREE WINNERS WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT VICTORY FOR OUR TEAM AT THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT.
WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION THEN AND NOW TO WHAT IS ONE OF THE GREAT ACTS OF SPORTSMANSHIP EVER, JACK NICKLAUS CONCEDING TONY JACKLIN'S SHORT BUT MISABLE PUTT ON THE FINAL GREEN TO
ENSURE A TIE FOR THE MATCHES, RETENTION OF THE CUP FOR THE U.S. AND OF COURSE ONE OF THE YEARS THE U.S. KEPT THE CUP AND WERE NICE ENOUGH TO GIVE IT TO YOUR TEAM FOR THE OTHER YEAR BECAUSE OF THE TIE, NOT THAT
THAT EVER HAPPENED AGAIN
AND AS WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SITUATION NOW, WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION AT THE TIME AS YOU REMEMBER?
WELL MY REACTION WAS THAT JACK WAS GOING TO HOLE HIS AND IT GOES PAST AND OF COURSE JACK'S NOW GOT A TOUGH PUTT HIMSELF.
TOURNAMENT ANNOUNCER IN BACKGROUND SPEAKING SOFTLY DESCRIBING THE TOURNAMENT PLAY
29:35 THRU (UNINTELLIGIBLE)
I MEAN THAT IS A TOUGH PUTT. KNOCKS IT STRAIGHT IN, AND JACK
JACK IS ONE OF, JACK IS A GREAT GUY. TONY WOULD HAVE HOLED THAT PUTT, I'M CONVINCED OF THAT, BUT THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. LOOKING BACK, I WAS HAPPY THAT JACK GAVE HIM THAT. I WAS HAPPY FOR TONY JACKLIN.
AND TONY JACKLIN WAS OPEN CHAMPION AND JACK KNEW HE WAS GOING TO HOLE IT I THINK BUT HE WASN'T GOING TO TAKE THE CHANCE OF HIM MISSING IT, AND LOOKING BACK NOW IT
WAS THE DEAD RIGHT THING TO DO AND I JUST HOPE THAT IF THE OCCASION COMES TODAY THAT, THAT SOMEBODY'S ALLOWED TO DO THAT ON THE LAST GREEN. I JUST, THEY MAY NOT ALLOW HIM TO, TO GIVE A PUTT LIKE THAT ON THE
LAST GREEN TODAY IF IT MEANS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WINNING AND LOSING BUT, THAT, THAT'S JACK NICKLAUS, THAT'S WHY JACK NICKLAUS STANDS OUT TO MY MIND AS SOMEONE ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL TO EVERYBODY ELSE.
THAT'S WHY HE'S A GREAT PLAYER.
AND OF COURSE
SAM SNEAD WAS THE CAPTAIN OF THE U.S SIDE. HE'S STILL MAD.
OH YEAH. YEAH. HE'S STILL MAD. YEAH.
THAT JACK CONCEDED THE PUTT.
YEAH, YEAH, YEAH THAT JACK, HE WAS REALLY ANGRY. WE WERE TOLD THAT, THAT UH THAT JACK HAD TO STAND UP TO SAM AND SAY I'M SORRY SAM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. I'M NOT SURE IF
THAT'S TRUE, BUT SAM SNEAD WAS A TOUGH, WAS TOUGH, GREAT PLAYER, BUT REALLY HARD MAN ON THE GOLF COURSE.
WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE RYDER CUP AS WE LEAVE YOU FOR JUST A MOMENT SOME RYDER CUP STATS AS THEY RELATE TO BERNARD. YOU CAN SEE THEM RIGHT THERE. WE'LL REJOIN YOU IN JUST A MOMENT.
'The Golf Club 2019' adds Elvy to commentary team
“The Golf Club 2019” is adding a new name to its commentary team.
Broadcaster Luke Elvy will join returning announcer and HB Studios developer John McCarthy for the title's third installment.
Golf fans will recognize Elvy from his recent work with CBS in addition to his time with Sky Sports, FOX Sports, TNT, PGA Tour Live and PGA Tour Radio.
A 25-year media veteran from Australia, he now works in the United States and lives with his family in Canada.
"Ian Baker-Finch was my right-hand man on Australian televison," Elvy told GolfChannel.com in an interview at the Quicken Loans National. "And Finchy said to me, 'What are you doing here? You should be with me in the States.’ He introduced me to a few people over here and that's how the transition has happened over the last five or six years."
Elvy didn't have any prior relationship with HB Studios, who reached out to him via his management at CAA. As for why he got the job, he pseudo-jokes: "They heard the accent, and said, 'We like that. That works for us. Let's go.' That's literally how it happened."
He participated in two separate recording sessions over three days, first at his home back in February and then at the HB Studios shortly after The Players Championship. He teased his involvement when the game was announced in May.
Although he doesn't describe himself as a "gamer," Elvy lauded the game's immediate playability, even for a novice.
“It’s exactly how you’d want golf to be,” he said.
"The Golf Club 2019" will be the first in the HB series to feature PGA Tour branding. The Tour had previously licensed its video game rights to EA Sports.
In addition to a career mode that will take players from the Web.com Tour all the way through the FedExCup Playoffs, "The Golf Club 2019" will also feature at launch replicas of six TPC courses played annually on Tour – TPC Summerlin (Shriners Hospitals for Children Open), TPC Scottsdale's Stadium Course (Waste Management Phoenix Open), TPC Sawgrass’ Stadium Course (The Players Championship), TPC Southwind (FedEx St. Jude Classic/WGC-FedEx St. Jude Championship), TPC Deere Run (John Deere Classic), and TPC Boston (Dell Technologies Championship).
“I played nine holes at Scottsdale,” Elvy added. “It’s a very close comparison. Visually, it’s very realistic."
The Golf Club 2019 is due out this August on PlayStation 4, XBOX One, and PC.
Expired visa, helicopter, odd clubs all part of Vegas' journey
CARNOUSTIE, Scotland – Jhonattan Vegas thought someone was playing a practical joke on him.
Or maybe he was stuck in the middle of a horror movie.
Scheduled to leave for The Open a week ago, he didn’t arrive at Carnoustie until a little more than an hour before his first-round tee time Thursday.
“Even if somebody tried to do that on purpose,” he said, “you couldn’t really do it.”
The problem was an expired visa.
Vegas said that he must have gotten confused by the transposed date on the visa – “Guessing I’ve been living in America too long” – and assumed that he was cleared to travel.
No problem, he was told. He’d have a new visa in 24 hours.
Except the consulate in New York didn’t respond to his application the next day, keeping him in limbo through the weekend. Then, on Monday, he was told that he’d applied for the wrong visa. UPS got shut down in New York and his visa never left, so Vegas waited in vain for seven hours in front of the consulate in Houston. He finally secured his visa on Wednesday morning, boarded a flight from Houston to Toronto, and then flew to Glasgow, the final leg of a 14-hour journey.
His agent arranged a helicopter ride from Glasgow to Carnoustie to ensure that he could make his 10:31 a.m. (local) tee time.
One more issue? His clubs never made it. They were left back in Toronto.
His caddie, Ruben Yorio, scrambled to put together a new bag, with a mismatched set of woods, irons, wedges and putter.
“Luckily the (equipment) vans are still here,” Vegas said. “Otherwise I probably would have played with members’ clubs today.”
He hit about 20 balls on the range – “Luckily they were going forward” – but Carnoustie is one of the most challenging links in the world, and Vegas was working off of two hours’ sleep and without his own custom-built clubs. He shot 76 but, hey, at least he tried.
“It was fun,” he said, “even though the journey was frustrating.”
'Brain fart' leads to Spieth's late collapse
CARNOUSTIE, Scotland – The closing stretch at Carnoustie has famously ruined many a solid round, so Jordan Spieth’s misadventures on Thursday should not have been a complete surprise, but the truth is the defending champion’s miscues were very much self-inflicted.
Spieth was cruising along at 3 under par, just two shots off the early lead, when he made a combination of errors at the par-4 15th hole. He hit the wrong club off the tee (4-iron) and the wrong club for his approach (6-iron) on his way to a double bogey-6.
“The problem was on the second shot, I should have hit enough club to reach the front of the green, and even if it goes 20 yards over the green, it's an easy up-and-down,” Spieth said. “I just had a brain fart, and I missed it into the location where the only pot bunker where I could actually get in trouble, and it plugged deep into it. It was a really, really poor decision on the second shot, and that cost me.”
Spieth continued to compound his problems with a sloppy bogey at the 16th hole, and a drive that sailed left at 18 found the Barry Burn en route to a closing bogey and a 1-over 72.
The miscues were more mental, a lack of execution, than they were an example of how difficult the closing stretch at Carnoustie can be, and that’s not good enough for Spieth.
“That's what I would consider as a significant advantage for me is recognizing where the misses are,” said Spieth, who was tied for 68th when he completed his round. “It felt like a missed opportunity.”
Perez: R&A does it right, 'not like the USGA'
CARNOUSTIE, Scotland – Pat Perez didn’t even attempt to hide his frustration with the USGA at last month’s U.S. Open, and after an opening-round 69 at The Open, he took the opportunity to double down on his displeasure.
“They (the R&A) do it right, not like the USGA,” Perez said of the setup at Carnoustie. “They've got the opposite [philosophy] here. I told them, you guys have it right, let the course get baked, but you've got the greens receptive. They're not going to run and be out of control. They could have easily had the greens just like the fairway, but they didn't. The course is just set up perfect.”
Concerns at Shinnecock Hills reached a crescendo on Saturday when the scoring average ballooned to 75.3 and only three players broke the par of 70. Of particular concern for many players, including Perez, were some of the hole locations, given how fast and firm the greens were.
“The U.S. Open could have been like this more if they wanted to. They could have made the greens a bit more receptive,” Perez said. “These greens are really flat compared to Shinnecock. So that was kind of the problem there is they let it get out of control and they made the greens too hard.”