Golf Talk Live - Byron Nelson Transcript Segment 2
A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD SAY THAT THE THREE GREATEST GOLF COURSE ARCHITECTS WERE TILLINGHAS, DONALD ROSS, AND ALISTER MCKENZIE. I KNOW OF COURSE WHEN YOU WERE PLAYING AT THE TILLINGHAS DESIGN, RIDGEWOOD, AS
A PROFESSIONAL AND WORKING THERE BEFORE YOU REALLY WENT OUT ON TOUR, YOU GOT A CHANCE TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH HIM. WHAT DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT TILLINGHAS?
WELL HE WAS REALLY A SCOTS, AN OLD SCOTS PRO LIKE, AND I SHOULDN'T SAY PRO BECAUSE HE WAS A GOLF COURSE ARCHITECT BUT WHEN HE PLAYED GOLF, WHY HE WORE A LOOSE, TWEED COAT. I NEVER, AND I DON'T THINK I EVER SAW HIM HIT A SHOT THAT DIDN'T, WHEN HE
PLAYED GOLF THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE THAT TWEED COAT ON AND HE HAD WHAT I CALL A WAX MUSTACHE, HE HAD A LITTLE MUSTACHE AND IT'S WAX HERE, AND THEN STUFF, AND VERY VERY WELL ORDERED AND STUFF, BUT HE REALLY KNEW WHAT HE WANTED TO DO ON A GOLF COURSE. JUST ALMOST, HE COULD JUST LOOK AT THE HOLE... LOOK AT A
PIECE OF PROPERTY, THERE'S A HOLE THERE, AND TELL YOU, HE'D JUST TELL YOU, JUST SEE RIGHT THERE IN HIS OWN MIND WHAT HE WANTED TO DO TO THAT HOLE. HE DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY WELL I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS, I'M GOING TO DO THIS, BUT HE BOOM. BOOM. AND I, I THOROUGHLY
ENJOYED RIDGEWOOD AND, AND MY ASSOCIATION WITH HIM THERE. I DIDN'T SEE A LOT BECAUSE HE WAS STILL WORKING IN THOSE, THOSE DAYS, BUT I DID SEE HIM AND PLAYED GOLF WITH HIM A COUPLE OF TIMES AND WATCHED HIM PLAY SOME AROUND THERE BECAUSE OF
THE NAME OF TILLINGHAS, EVEN THEN, WHEN I WAS YOUNG STARTING OUT, IT WAS VERY PROMINENT.
WAS HE A LITTLE BIT OF A CHARACTER WOULD YOU SAY?
YES. YEAH, VERY, NOT A, NOT A MEAN CHARACTER. A GOOD CHARACTER. HE WAS A FUN SORT OF A GUY. HAD A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR AND, BUT HE WAS, WHEN YOU'D START TO SAY SOMETHING, WHEN YOU SAY SOMETHING TO HIM ABOUT A GOLF COURSE, I DIDN'T OF COURSE,
BECAUSE I, I'D JUST STAND BACK IN AWE, BUT PEOPLE, PEOPLE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT A GOLF COURSE WHY, THERE WAS NO ARGUMENT TO IT. HE DID IT, AND HE DIDN'T SAY, HE SAID WELL DO YOU THINK WE OUGHT TO PUT A (??UNINTELLIGIBLE) OVER THERE?
HE DIDN'T SAY 'DO YOU THINK' . WE PUT A (??UNINTELLIGIBLE) THERE, WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, WE'RE GOING TO THAT AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
HOW IMPORTANT DID RIDGEWOOD TURN OUT TO BE IN THAT, IT WAS THE LAST PLACE THAT YOU REALLY WORKED ON YOUR GAME BEFORE YOU WENT OUT AGAINST THE OTHER GREAT PLAYERS OF THE WORLD, IN THAT IT WAS A GREAT TEST OF YOUR SWING AND A GREAT TEST
TO EXPOSE POTENTIAL WEAKNESSES THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
WELL I THINK IT WAS A TREMENDOUS STEP FORWARD. IT WAS MY FIRST BIG STEP IN GOLF. WHEN I WENT TO WORK FOR GEORGE DAKOVAS IN 1935 AND '36, AS HIS FIRST ASSISTANT, AND I TELL YOU THE FUN, I'LL MENTION THIS, JUST A PASSING
THAT MY FEE FOR WORKING FOR ME IN THE SUMMER, THE FULL SUMMER, GOING THERE FOR THE MASTERS THERE, WAS $400... $400. MAN YOU CAN'T GO DOWN AND BUY A STEAK DINNER FOR MUCH LESS THAN THAT NOW, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S
BESIDE THE POINT, BUT IT, IT REALLY, THEY HAD THREE GREAT NINES THERE. THEY HAD EAST WEST AND CENTER, AND THE EAST AND THE WEST WERE CONSIDERED THE BETTER BUT THE WEST WAS, BUT THE CENTER, I MEAN THE EAST AND THE WEST WERE THE TWO MAIN ONES AND THE CENTER WAS A GOOD NINE ALSO,
BUT HAVING THAT IN THE BACKGROUND WHEN YOU PLAY AND LEARN TO PLAY A GOLF COURSE LIKE THAT WAS AND IS, THEN WHEN THERE, YOU WENT SOME OTHER PLACE YOU'RE NOT FINDING SOMETHING THAT'S MORE DIFFICULT TILL, SO TO SPEAK, YOU END UP LEARNING TO PLAY EVERY SHOT THAT YOU KNEW OF AT
RIDGEWOOD AND SO THAT WAS A BIG STEP TO ME AND ALSO, IT WAS A GREAT HELP TO ME, BECAUSE GEORGE ACOBAS WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE PGA ALL THE TIME I WAS THERE. HE WAS PRESIDENT OF THE
PGA FOR A LONG TIME, AND I LEARNED A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT RUNNING A GOLF SHOP OR RUNNING A TOURNAMENT AND DOING CERTAIN THINGS AND PETER, THE, THE THING THAT STARTED ME AND
THERE'S NEVER BEEN MUCH SAID ABOUT IT, BUT, IN 1935, THE RYDER CUP WAS AT RIDGEWOOD, IN THE FALL OF THE YEAR AND I WAS OF COURSE ASSISTANT THERE AND NATURALLY I WAS THERE, AND I HAD
PLENTY OF CLOTHES TO WEAR AND EVERYTHING BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN, NOW THEN HERE'S THESE GREAT PLAYERS. THEY GOT SLACKS ALIKE, SHOES ALIKE, CLUBS ALIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, THE GOLF BAGS ALIKE, AND THE, AND THEY HAD THESE PARTIES TO GO TO AND I
SAID SOMETHING TO CADDIE FRIENDS, SOME OF THE YOUNG PLAYERS AROUND THERE, I SAID, BOY, I'M GOING TO GET ON THAT RYDER CUP ONE OF THESE DAYS, AND FORTUNATELY I MADE IT IN '37 BECAUSE
I WON THE MASTERS IN '37 AND THAT WAS THE CLIMAX AND IT GOT ME ON, BUT THAT, THAT REALLY WAS A, A, AND FORTUNATELY FOR ME MY WHOLE CAREER, I GOT INTO THINGS WHEN I WENT TO WORK AT THE (UNINTELLIGIBLE) IT WAS A GOOD GOLF COURSE. MY FIRST JOB. THEN I WENT TO RIDGEWOOD,
AND WORKING THERE AND THEN REDDING AND THEN TO INVER... TOLEDO. WELL I, I WAS STEPPING UP IN THE, IN THE ECHELON OF, OF BEING CLUB PRO, ALL THAT TIME, AND THE START THAT I GOT THERE WAS TREMENDOUS.
YOU'RE MENTIONING REDDING AND THE $400, UNRELATED, REMINDS ME TO ASK YOU THAT BEFORE YOU WON YOUR FIRST MASTERS IN '37, YOU HAD JUST GOTTEN THE JOB TO BE HEAD PRO AT REDDING COUNTRY CLUB AND
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SORT OF SPURRED YOU ON TO PLAY BETTER, AS IT ALWAYS SEEMED TO WAS, YOU NEEDED MONEY TO BUY MERCHANDISE FOR THE PRO SHOP BECAUSE IT WAS TIME TO OPEN IT UP.
RIGHT, AND I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HAVE, DIDN'T HAVE, I HAD MONEY TO EAT ON AND STUFF BUT I HAD NO MONEY TO, AND I HAD NO CREDIT WITH THE, WITH THE COMP... CORPORATION, WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE CLUB MANUFACTURES SO I WON
15 HUNDRED DOLLARS AND MAN I THOUGHT I HAD, YOU KNOW, THAT SOON WENT TOO, BUT, BUT THAT GAVE ME SOMETHING TO GET STARTED ON AND, AND IT, I TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT NOW, SOME OF THE YOUNG PLAYERS AND IT'S
HARD TO BELIEVE THEY DON'T THINK YOU COULD EVEN EAT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONIES WE MADE, BUT THINGS WERE KIND OF EQUAL, AS THEY GOT MORE, WHERE YOU GOT MORE, YOU GOT MORE AND THEY DID MORE, SO THAT, IT, THAT BACKGROUND I HAVE, I WOULDN'T TAKE ANYTHING IN THE WORLD FOR IT, BECAUSE IT TAUGHT YOU
SOME THINGS AND, AND THAT TAUGHT ME, AND SEEING PEOPLE THAT GO BANKRUPT BUT PEOPLE THAT HAPPEN TO THEM, THEY GO... I NEVER DID, I NEVER DID. I STAYED OUT OF DEBT. I WOULDN'T BUY ANYTHING IF I COULDN'T PAY FOR IT, AND I LEARNED THAT DOING THOSE, IN THOSE BUSINESS YEARS WORKING FOR JAKOBIS,
WORKING AT REDDING AND THAT WAS A VERY BIG THING, HAVING THE FORTUNATE THING FOR ME TO GET STARTED UNDER PEOPLE LIKE THAT AND THEN WHEN I WENT TO REDDING, THERE WAS A MAN
NAMED STAN, I NEVER BEEN ABLE TO
MAKE A SPEECH, AND I HADN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A SPEECH AND STANLEY JAWLS WAS MY BOSS' OWNER, ALMOST OWNER IN REDDING, PENNSYLVANIA, AND I WON THE, I SIGNED THE CONTRACT THE FIRST OF APRIL TO GO
TO REDDING IN 1937, GO TO AUGUSTA, WIN THE TOURNAMENT, I COME BACK. I'M THE TOP DOG IN AUGUSTA. I MEAN, REDDING, BECAUSE NO, NO CHAMPIONS HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE. SO, THERE WAS ABOUT TWO WEEKS TIME, WHY HE CALLED ME UP ONE DAY, HE SAID BYRON, ONE OF THE ROTARIES CLUB WANTS YOU TO GO IN
THERE, I SAID OKAY. SO I WENT OVER TO THE ROTARY CLUB, HE SAID YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A SPEECH. WELL HE SCARED ME TO DEATH, I (LAUGHS).
I SAID I'VE NEVER MADE A SPEECH IN MY LIFE, STANLEY. HE SAID, WELL, MR. JAWS, I CALLED HIM AND I SAID, AND HE
SAID, I SAID, ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS TELL HIM HOW YOU WON THE TOURNAMENT
AND I SAID WELL I SHOT THE LOWEST SCORE (LAUGHS).
NOBODY DOES A CHAT BETTER THAN YOU DO NOW. YOU'VE DEFINITELY FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET IT DONE. DON'T GO AWAY.
Watch: Jesper hits rock, flies bridge, makes par
It's not often you'll hear an accomplished professional declare that he made one of his greatest par saves on a par-3 course. But Jesper Parnevik can - and did - make that claim.
Playing the Top of the Rock layout on Day 2 of the Bass Pro Shops Legends of Golf at Big Cedar Lodge, Parnevik's tee shot at the 130-yard sixth, his 15th hole of the day, flew the green. It bounced off a rock, caromed over a bridge and landed on dry land. He then chipped over the bridge, but underneath a tree limb, and got his ball within 15 feet from the hole. He then converted the putt.
What made the par save more impressive was the fact that his partner, Jeff Maggert, had already hit his tee shot in the water during the fourball portion of the event. And in a team event, you just can't drop shots.
McIlroy on winning the Masters: 'It'll happen'
Nearly two weeks after letting a shot at a green jacket slip through his grasp, Rory McIlroy remains confident that he'll still someday find a way to capture what for him has become golf's most elusive prize.
McIlroy had a spot alongside Patrick Reed in the final pairing at the Masters, and he insisted that all the pressure was on his counterpart who was seeking his first career major title. But from his first wobbly tee shot, it was clear that McIlroy was feeling plenty of heat himself as he looked to round out the final leg of the career Grand Slam on a course where he has come up barely short a number of times in recent years.
McIlroy started the day three shots behind Reed, but he never challenged once the pair hit the second nine as Reed beat Rickie Fowler by a shot while McIlroy fell into a tie for fifth, six shots off the pace.
"I got onto that first tee, and I was quite nervous. Even though I was three behind, I still felt like there was a little bit of pressure there for some reason," McIlroy told CNN's Shane O'Donoghue. "I just couldn't get into my rhythm like I could the first three days."
Given time to reflect, McIlroy has adopted a positive outlook on his week in Augusta: another chance to contend on a major stage, another sign that his game is, for the most part, where he wants it to be heading into a busy summer stretch.
For McIlroy, the disappointment was not in failing to win major No. 5, it was in his inability to make Reed work for it during the early stages of their round together as McIlroy failed to mount much of a challenge after missing a 4-foot eagle putt on the second hole that would have given him a share of the lead.
"I was just disappointed that again I didn't put any pressure on the leader. I guess that was my thing," McIlroy said. "If I had just put a little pressure on, it might have been a different outcome."
Instead, McIlroy left with a respectable yet unsatisfying result from the season's first major for the fifth year in a row. Left to wait another 11 months before his next crack at a green jacket, his belief is unwavering that he'll one day join Reed among the tournament's decorated list of champions.
"Look, it'll happen. I truly believe it'll happen," McIlroy said. "I play that golf course well enough. I've five top-10s in a row, I've given myself a chance. It didn't quite work out. But just, the more I keep putting myself in those positions, sooner or later it's going to happen for me."
Murray fixes swing flaw, recovers momentum
SAN ANTONIO - Grayson Murray fixed a flaw in his swing and hit the ball well enough that blustery conditions weren't an issue for him Thursday in the Valero Texas Open.
Coming off a missed cut at Hilton Head last week, Murray made seven birdies for a 5-under 67 and a one-shot lead. His only mistake was a double bogey from a greenside bunker on the par-3 seventh hole.
''Just the fact I did give myself enough opportunities today for birdie, it took a lot of pressure off,'' Murray said.
Of the five players at 68, only Chesson Hadley played in the morning side of the draw, and he called it among his best rounds of the year because of gusts. The wind died in the afternoon and scoring improved slightly on the AT&T Oaks Course at the TPC San Antonio. Keegan Bradley, Ryan Moore, Billy Horschel and Matt Atkins each posted 68. Horschel and Moore played bogey-free.
''Struck the ball really well, something that we've been working hard on,'' Horschel said. ''Could have been better, yeah. I didn't really make anything out there today. But I'm happy with it.''
Sergio Garcia, who consulted Greg Norman on the design of the course, played the Texas Open for the first time since 2010 and shot a 74. Adam Scott failed to make a birdie in his round of 75. Scott is at No. 59 in the world and needs to stay in the top 60 by May 21 to be exempt for the U.S. Open.
Harris English was in the group at 69, while two-time Texas Open champion Zach Johnson, Nick Watney and Brandt Snedeker were among those at 70. Johnson saved his round by going 5 under over his final five holes, starting with a 12-foot eagle putt on the par-5 14th hole. He birdied the last three.
Murray was coming off a pair of top 15s at Bay Hill and the Houston Open when his game got away from him last week in the RBC Heritage, and he shot 74-70 to miss the cut. He got that sorted out in the five days between teeing it up in San Antonio.
He said he was coming down too steep, which meant he would flip his hands and hit a sharp draw or pull out of it and hit it short and right.
''I was hitting each club 10 yards shorter than I normally do, and you can't play like that because your caddie is trying to give you a number and a club, and you keep hitting these bad shots or keep coming up short,'' Murray said. ''I got back to the basics with the setup and the takeaway, got my club in a better position at the top, which kind of frees my downswing. Then I can start going at it.''
Even so, Murray thought he wasted his good start - three birdies in his first six holes - when his bunker shot at No. 7 came out with no spin and rolled off the green into a deep swale. He hit his third short to about 7 feet, but missed the putt and took double bogey.
''I would have loved to limit that to a bogey because bogeys don't really kill you - doubles are the ones that now you've got to have an eagle or two birdies to come back with, and out here it's kind of tough to make birdies,'' Murray said. ''But I kept my head. My caddie keeps me very positive out there, that's why I think we could finish 4 under the last nine holes.''
Only 34 players in the 156-man field managed to break par.
Horschel missed four birdie chances inside 18 feet on the back nine. What pleased him the most was the way he struck the ball, particularly after his tie for fifth last week at the RBC Heritage. Horschel was one shot behind going into the last round and closed with a 72.
But he's all about momentum, and he can only hope this is the start of one of his runs. Horschel won the FedEx Cup in 2014 when he finished second and won the final two playoff events.
''I'm a big momentum player. I've got to get the train moving forward,'' he said. ''I've always been a guy who gets on a little roll, get that train moving and jump in that winner's circle.''
LPGA back in L.A.: Inbee Park leads by 1
LOS ANGELES - Inbee Park's flirtation with retirement is in the rear-view mirror.
Backed by a large contingent of South Korean fans, Park shot a 5-under 66 for a one-shot lead Thursday in the opening round of the HUGEL-JTBC LA Open in the LPGA's return to Los Angeles after a 13-year absence.
Showers ended shortly before Park's threesome, including second-ranked Lexi Thompson, teed off at windy Wilshire Country Club just south of Hollywood.
Using a new putter, Park birdied four consecutive holes on the back nine before a bogey on the par-4 17th. She quickly recovered and rolled in birdie putts on the second and fifth holes to finish off her round.
''I never played a tournament outside Korea having this much Korean supporters out,'' Park said. ''I almost feel like I'm playing back home. It's almost like a little Korea.''
That applies to the food, too, with nearby Koreatown's restaurants beckoning.
''Too many,'' Park said.
The third-ranked Park banished the blade-style putter she used in her Founders Cup victory last month in Phoenix, a playoff loss in the ANA Inspiration and a tie for third last week in Hawaii. She went back to one that feels more comfortable and has brought her success in the past.
''Last week was just an awkward week where I missed a lot of short ones and I just wasn't really comfortable with the putter,'' Park said, ''so I just wanted to have a different look.''
The 29-year-old Hall of Famer recently said she was 50-50 about retiring before returning to the tour in early March after a six-month break. Momentum has been going her way ever since.
Marina Alex was second. Thompson was one of seven players at 68 in partly sunny and unseasonable temperatures in the low 60s.
Alex tied Park with a birdie on No. 11. The American dropped a stroke with a bogey on the par-5 13th before rallying with a birdie on No. 14 to share the lead.
Alex found trouble on the par-4 17th. Her ball crossed over a winding creek, bounced and then rolled into the water, leaving Alex looking for it. Eventually, she salvaged a bogey to drop a shot behind Park. After a bad tee shot on 18, Alex managed a par to close at 67.
''I made a lot of the putts that I shouldn't, I wouldn't have expected to make,'' she said. ''I made two great saves on 17 and 18. Kind of got away with some not-so-solid golf shots in the beginning, and I capitalized on some great putts.''
Thompson returned from a two-week break after finishing tied for 20th at the ANA Inspiration, the year's first major.
She bogeyed her second hole, the par-4, 401-yard 11th, before settling down and birdieing four of the next eight holes, including the 14th, 15th and 16th.
''I changed a little thing that slipped my mind that I was working on earlier in the year,'' said Thompson, declining to share the change in her putting technique. ''I don't want to jinx it.''
ANA winner Pernilla Lundberg was among those in the logjam after a 68.
Natalie Gulbis was among five players tied for 10th at 69. Playing sparingly the last two years, Gulbis put together a round that included four birdies and two bogeys.
Top-ranked Shanshan Feng struggled to a 74 with five bogeys and two birdies.
The venerable course with views of the Hollywood sign and Griffith Observatory wasn't any kinder to eighth-ranked Cristie Kerr and Michelle Wie.
Both had up-and-down rounds that included three bogeys and a double-bogey on No. 10 for Kerr and five bogeys, including three in a row, for Wie. Wie, ranked 14th, had a few putts that lipped out.