Golf Talk Live - Carin Koch Transcript Segment 1

By Golf Channel DigitalJanuary 22, 2001, 5:00 pm
GOLF TALK LIVE - JAN. 22, 2000
CARIN KOCH

TEASE
CARIN KOCH IS TRYING TO FULFILL HER GOAL TO BE ONE OF THE GAME'S BEST.
AT A TIME WHEN THERE ARE MORE BRILLIANT PLAYERS ON THE LPGA TOUR THAN EVER BEFORE IN THE ORGANIZATION'S 50 YEAR HISTORY AND CARIN KOCH IS SUCCEEDING.
MEET HER NOW ON GOLF TALK LIVE.
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SWEDEN'S CARIN KOCH BEGAN TO PLAY GOLF WHEN SHE WAS NINE. SHE PLAYED ON 7 SWEDISH NATIONAL TEAMS THROUGH 1999 AND WON THE 1988 SWEDISH GIRLS CHAMPIONSHIP AND THE 1990 EUROPEAN TEAM JUNIOR CHAMPIONSHIP.

SHE HONED HER GAME IN AMERICA AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TULSA AND TURNED PROFESSIONAL IN 1992. SHE PLAYED IN EUROPE AND ASIA WITH INCREASING SUCCESS BEFORE JOINING THE LPGA TOUR IN 1995. CARIN MARRIED STEFAN KOCH AT THE END OF 1995. THEIR SON OLIVER WAS BORN IN LATE 1998 AND CARIN PLAYED ON TOUR UNTIL THE BEGINNING OF HER 8TH MONTH OF PREGNANCY.

SHE HAS SIX 2ND PLACE FINISHES ON TOUR AND SHE GIVES HERSELF CHANCES TO WIN OFTEN AND MORE CONSISTENTLY THAN EVER BEFORE. IN 2000, SHE WON THE CHRYSLER OPEN ON THE EVIAN LADIES EUROPE TOUR IN SWEDEN WHERE SHE LEARNED TO PLAY AS A GIRL. SHE WON MORE MONEY AND MORE FANS THAN EVER BEFORE IN 2000 AND PUNCTUATED HER YEAR AS A WINNING MEMBER OF THE EUROPEAN SOLHEIM CUP TEAM, WHERE, AS A ROOKIE, SHE WON HER THREE MATCHES AND CLINCHED TO THE WINNING POINT FOR HER TEAM WITH A 17TH HOLE BIRDIE AND HER TWO AND ONE WIN OVER MICHELLE REDMAN.

SHE KNOCKED ON THE DOOR AGAIN IN THE FIRST LPGA EVENT OF 2001. EXPECT HER TO KEEP KNOCKING UNTIL SHE WINS, AND WHEN SHE DOES, DON'T EXPECT HER TO END THE FUN OF WINNING ANYTIME SOON.

PETER KESSLER
WELCOME TO GOLF TALK LIVE. I'M PETER KESSLER. GREAT PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO SOLHEIM CUP HERO, LPGA STAR, CARIN KOCH. IT'S SO NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE.

CARIN KOCH
THANKS FOR HAVING ME. I ENJOY IT.

PETER KESSLER
THANKS. I HOPE I'M NOT OUT OF LINE OR GIVING ANYTHING AWAY IF I WISH YOU AN EARLY HAPPY 30TH BIRTHDAY.

CARIN KOCH
NO, THANK YOU. YOU CAN DO THAT.

PETER KESSLER
YOU KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE, STARTING AT ABOUT 30, A LOT OF PEOPLE START TO TAKE STOCK OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND ARE THEY HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY'VE DONE. ARE YOU SATISFIES WITH WHAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED, WOULD YOU SAY
BOTH OFF AND ON THE GOLF COURSE TO THIS POINT?

CARIN KOCH
VERY. I'VE REACHED SO MANY LEVELS, AND SO MANY GOALS THAT I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GOING TO DO WHEN I TURNED PRO. I WAS ALWAYS KIND OF AN AVERAGE AMATEUR I THOUGHT AND WHEN I DECIDED TO TURN PRO I THOUGHT I'D TRY IT AND IF IT WOULDN'T WORK OUT I'D JUST GO BACK TO SCHOOL BECAUSE I KNEW I COULD DO THAT, NEVER HAD PROBLEMS WITH THAT, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, I, I'VE DONE SO MUCH THAT I COULDN'T DREAM OF.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT ABOUT OFF THE COURSE?

CARIN KOCH
OFF THE COURSE, I, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A WONDERFUL HUSBAND, A WONDERFUL SON, I'M SURROUNDED WITH A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE AND A LOT OF GREAT FRIENDS, AND I'M JUST A VERY LUCKY PERSON.

PETER KESSLER
I READ THAT SOME OF YOUR EARLY HEROES WERE EGMAR STANMAR AND BJORN BORG AND LISELOTTE NEUMANN. ALL OF WHOM, OF COURSE, HAVE IN COMMON THAT THEY PLAY INDIVIDUAL RATHER THAN TEAM SPORTS.

CARIN KOCH
MHMM

PETER KESSLER

WOULD YOU SAY THAT YOU HAD A SENSE OR AN INSTINCT FROM AN EARLY AGE THAT YOU WERE PROBABLY BETTER SUITED TEMPERAMENTALLY TO INDIVIDUAL RATHER THAN TEAM SPORTS?

CARIN KOCH
I GREW UP, LIKE YOU SAID, WITH ALL THOSE INDIVIDUAL HEROES. WE USED TO STOP SCHOOL AND WATCH INGEMAR DO HIS DOWN HILL SKIING RACES. THE WHOLE SCHOOL WOULD BE IN THE LIBRARY WATCHING TV AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS IN SCHOOL, AND THEN DEFINITELY I WAS LOOKING UP TO LISELOTTE.

SHE WON THE SWEDISH MATCH PLAY CHAMPIONSHIPS I BELIEVE IT WAS WHEN SHE WAS 15, AND SHE'S ABOUT 5 YEARS OLDER THAN I AM I THINK, SO, YOU KNOW, I WAS WATCHING HER DO THAT AND SHE WAS FROM THIS LITTLE TINY TOWN IN SWEDEN AND I JUST, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I CAN OWE HERE A LOT THAT I'M OUT HERE BECAUSE I, SHE, I ALWAYS LOOKED UP TO HER THEN AND I DO NOW. I THINK SHE'S A GREAT ROLE,
ROLE MODEL, AND, BUT I, I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT OF, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE BEING AN INDIVIDUAL SPORT AND ALL THAT. I ALWAYS LIKED TEAM SPORTS AS WELL.

PETER KESSLER
HOW DID YOU AND GOLF FIND EACH OTHER?

CARIN KOCH
THROUGH MY DAD. MY DAD LOVED THE GAME. HE LOVED ALL SPORTS AND HE HAD A BAD BACK WHEN HE WAS YOUNG AND GOLF WAS ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT HE COULD DO BECAUSE HE COULDN'T RUN, AND DO THINGS LIKE THAT SO, I THINK HE WAS LONELY, I THINK HE NEEDED SOMEONE TO PLAY WITH.

MY MOM HATED IT AND, SO HE BROUGHT ME OUT, AND MY MEMORIES FROM THAT IS, SUMMER EVENINGS IN SWEDEN. IT STAYS LIGHT THERE UNTIL ABOUT 10, 11 AT NIGHT AND I JUST REMEMBER AFTER A DAY OF PLAYING WITH MY FRIENDS, MY DAD AND I WOULD GO UP TO THE GOLF COURSE AND, AND PLAY 9 HOLES ON THIS KIND OF A, A NINE HOLE BEGINNERS COURSE AT OUR CLUB, AND THOSE ARE REALLY GREAT MEMORIES AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD ALWAYS PLAY MATCHES AND I WOULD ALWAYS WIN, AND HE WOULD BUY ME ICE CREAM OR CHOCOLATE ON THE WAY HOME, AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW HE GOT ME TO GO WITH HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE. YOU KNOW, HE KIND OF HAD TO BRIBE ME, AND THEN IT GOT UP TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DO THIS AND THAT I'LL BUY YOU A PUTTER AND A NEW GOLF SET, SO I ALWAYS HAD KIND OF INCENTIVES AND I LOVED THE COMPETITION PART OF IT.

PETER KESSLER
WHEN YOU STARTED TO BEAT OTHER PEOPLE, OTHER THAN YOUR FATHER

CARIN KOCH
(LAUGHS QUIETLY)

PETER KESSLER
YOU STARTED TO BEAT THEM REGULARLY

CARIN KOCH
MHMM

PETER KESSLER
WAS THERE A POINT IN TIME THAT YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, I SEEM TO DO THIS BETTER THAN MOST OF THE OTHER PEOPLE MY AGE, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS. DO YOU REMEMBER A SORT OF TURNING POINT THERE?

CARIN KOCH
NO I DON'T REALLY. I, YOU KNOW, I HAD DIFFERENT GOALS AND DIFFERENT DREAMS AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT I REACHED THAT I NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE ABLE TO WAS GOING TO COLLEGE AND COMING OVER HERE TO AMERICA AND GO TO COLLEGE. THAT WAS ALWAYS A DREAM THAT I'D HEARD OF OTHER GIRLS DOING AND MY DAD HAD TALKED ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, ONE DAY I WAS IN TULSA AND I WAS DOING IT AND I, IT JUST KIND OF HITS ME AS I GO ALONG I THINK.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT OTHER DREAMS DID YOU HAVE BESIDES WANTING TO COME TO AMERICA AND PLAY GOLF?

CARIN KOCH
WELL COMING, YOU KNOW, ON TOUR, AND PLAY.

PETER KESSLER
WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO BE EVER?

CARIN KOCH
LOTS OF THINGS.

PETER KESSLER
LIKE

CARIN KOCH
WHEN I WAS YOUNGER I WANTED TO BE A COSMETOLOGIST. MAKE-UP ARTIST. I ALWAYS WOULD MAKE UP MY FRIENDS AND DO THEIR HAIR AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND... I, I'M, NEVER REALLY THOUGHT OF ANYTHING ELSE I DON'T THINK. SOMETHING IN THE HOTEL BUSINESS I WAS A LITTLE BIT INTO FOR A WHILE TOO.

PETER KESSLER
LIKE OWNING THEM.

CARIN KOCH
YEAH

(CARIN AND PETER LAUGH)

PETER KESSLER
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A VERY SHORT BREAK

CARIN KOCH
OKAY

PETER KESSLER
20:AND WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK WITH CARIN KOCH (LAUGHS).

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USGA-player relationship at a breaking point?

By Will GrayJune 18, 2018, 8:00 pm

SOUTHAMPTON, N.Y. – For seven days each year, the American game’s preeminent governing body welcomes the best players in the world with open arms. They set up shop at one of the premier courses in the country, and line it with grandstands and white hospitality tents as far as the eye can see.

The players arrive, first at a slow trickle and then at a steady pace. And once they’ve registered and clipped their player medallions over their belts, they’re told how this year is going to be different.

How this time around, be it in a Washington gravel pit or on a time-tested piece of land on the tip of Long Island, the USGA will not repeat the mistakes of the past. That the process of identifying the best players in the world will not veer into the territory of embarrassing them.

Like a college sweetheart in search of reconciliation, the powers-that-be preach a changed attitude and a more even-handed approach. Then, inevitably, they commit the same cardinal sins they promised to avoid.

So year in and year out, the scar tissue builds. Charlie Brown keeps trying to kick the football and, for most of the players not named Brooks Koepka, he ends up on his butt in a cloud of dust and fescue.



After letting Shinnecock Hills plunge into avoidable yet all-too-familiar territory over the weekend – before being doused back to life – one thing is clear: in the eyes of many players, the USGA can’t be trusted.

“When are they going to get it right? I just feel like they disrespect these historic golf courses,” said Scott Piercy, a runner-up at the 2016 U.S. Open who got swept away this week during a crispy third round en route to a T-45 finish. “I think they disrespect the players, I think they disrespect the game of golf. And they’re supposed to be, like, the top body in the game of golf. And they disrespect it, every aspect of it.”

Piercy, like several players in this week’s field, had a few specific gripes about how Shinnecock was set up, especially during the third round when USGA CEO Mike Davis admitted his organization lost control in a display that echoed the mistakes of 2004. But this was not an isolated case.

Players went with skepticism to Chambers Bay three years ago, only to encounter greens that were largely dirt and got compared to produce. Mismatched grass strains, they were told. Whoops.

The next year the USGA threw a dark cloud over a classic venue by allowing much of the final round at Oakmont to play without knowing the leader’s actual score as a rules fiasco reached a furious boil. Last year’s Erin Hills experiment was met with malaise.

At this point, the schism runs much deeper than a single error in setup. It threatens the core competency of the organization in the eyes of several of the players it looks to serve.

“They do what they want, and they don’t do it very well. As far as I’m concerned, there is no relationship (between players and the USGA),” said Marc Leishman. “They try and do it. They do it on purpose. They say they want to test us mentally, and they do that by doing dumb stuff.”



By and large, players who took issue with the USGA’s tactics had a simple solution: put more of the setup choices in the hands of those who oversee PGA Tour and European Tour venues on a regular basis. While some of those personnel already moonlight in USGA sweater-vests for the week, there is a strong sentiment that their collective knowledge could be more heavily relied upon.

“I know (the USGA) takes great pride in doing all this stuff they do to these golf courses, but they see it once a year,” Brandt Snedeker said. “Let those guys say, ‘Hey, we see this every week. We know what the edge is. We know where it is.’ We can’t be out there playing silly golf.”

That’s not to say that a major should masquerade as the Travelers Championship. But the U.S. Open is the only one of the four that struggles to keep setup shortfalls from becoming a dominant storyline.

It all adds up to a largely adversarial relationship, one that continues to fray after this weekend’s dramatics and which isn’t helped by the USGA’s insistence that they should rarely shoulder the blame.

“They’re not going to listen, for one. Mike Davis thinks he’s got all the answers, that’s No. 2,” said Pat Perez after a T-36 finish. “And when he is wrong, there’s no apologies. It’s just, ‘Yeah, you know, we kind of let it get out of hand.’ Well, no kidding. Look at the scores. That’s the problem. It’s so preventable. You don’t have to let it get to that point.”



But this wound festers from more than just slick greens and thick rough. There is a perception among some players that the USGA gets overly zealous in crafting complicated rules with complex decisions, a collection of amateur golfers doling out the fine print that lords over the professional game on a weekly basis – with the curious handling of whatever Phil Mickelson did on the 13th green Saturday serving as just the latest example.

The gripes over setup each year at the USGA’s biggest event, when it’s perceived that same group swoops in to take the reins for a single week before heading for the hills, simply serve as icing on the cake. And there was plenty of icing this week after players were implored to trust that the miscues of 2004 would not be repeated.

“To say that the players and the USGA have had a close relationship would be a false statement,” Snedeker said. “They keep saying all the right things, and they’re trying to do all the right things, I think. But it’s just not coming through when it matters.”

It’s worth noting that the USGA has made efforts recently to ramp up its communication with the top pros. Officials from the organization have regularly attended the Tour’s player meetings in recent months, and Snedeker believes that some strides have been made.

So, too, does Zach Johnson, who was one of the first to come out after the third round and declare that the USGA had once again lost the golf course.

“I think they’ve really started to over the last few years, last couple years in particular, tried to increase veins of communication,” Johnson said. “When you’re talking about a week that is held in the highest regards, I’m assuming within the organization and certainly within my peer group as one of the four majors and my nation’s major, communication is paramount.”



But the exact size of the credibility gap the USGA has to bridge with some top pros remains unclear. It’s likely not a sting that one good week of tournament setup can assuage, even going to one of the more straightforward options in the rotation next year at Pebble Beach.

After all, Snedeker was quick to recall that players struggled mightily to hit the par-3 17th green back in 2010, with eventual champ Graeme McDowell calling the hole “borderline unfair” ahead of the third round.

“It’s one of the greatest holes in world golf, but I don’t really know how I can hit the back left portion of the green,” McDowell said at the time. “It’s nearly impossible.”

Surely this time next year, Davis will explain how the USGA has expanded its arsenal in the last decade, and that subsequent changes to the 17th green structure will make it more playable. His organization will then push the course to the brink, like a climber who insists on scaling Mount Everest without oxygen, and they’ll tell 156 players that this time, finally, the desired balance between difficult and fair has been achieved.

Whether they’ll be believed remains to be seen.

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Bubba gets inked by Brooks, meets Tebow

By Grill Room TeamJune 18, 2018, 5:40 pm

Bubba Watson missed the cut at Shinnecock Hills following rounds of 77-74, but that didn't stop him from enjoying his weekend.

Watson played alongside Jason Day and eventual champion Brooks Koepka in Rounds 1 and 2, and somehow this body ink slipped by us on Thursday.

Got autographed by defending @usopengolf Champ @bkoepka!! #NeverShoweringAgain

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And while we're sure Bubba would have rather been in contention over the weekend, we're also sure that taking your son to meet the second most famous minor-league baseball player who ever lived was a lot more fun than getting your teeth kicked in by Shinnecock Hills over the weekend, as just about everyone not named Brooks Koepka and Tommy Fleetwood did.

Already in Hartford, Watson will be going for his third Travelers Championship trophy this week, following wins in 2010 and 2015.

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Phil rubs fan's Donald Duck hat seven times, signs it

By Nick MentaJune 18, 2018, 3:09 pm

There is a case to be made that what Phil Mickelson did on Saturday made a mockery of a major championship and was worthy of derision.

There is also a case to be made that the USGA's setup of Shinnecock Hills made a mockery of a major championship and was worthy of derision.

Whatever you think about what Mickelson did on Saturday - and how he attempted to justify it after the fact without even a hint of remorse - watch this video.

The next time you hear someone say, "If anybody else had putted a moving ball on purpose and not apologized for it, it would get a different reaction," you can point to this video and say, "Yeah, here's why."

Here's what happened once a still-strident Mickelson was done rubbing Donald Duck hats on Sunday, per Ryan Lavner:

If you’re wondering whether Mickelson would be defiant or contrite on Sunday, we don’t know the answer. He declined to stop and speak with the media, deciding instead to sign autographs for more than a half hour and then offering a few short answers before ducking into player hospitality.

“The real question is, ‘What am I going to do next?’” he said. “I don’t know.”

The 2024 Ryder Cup at Bethpage is going to be a three-ring circus, and Mickelson, a likely choice to captain the U.S. team, will be the ringmaster.

Separately, shoutout to 2017 Latin Am champ Toto Gana, who does a terrific Donald Duck (skip to end).

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Ryder Cup race: Mickelson out, Simpson in

By Will GrayJune 18, 2018, 2:34 pm

There's a new man at the top of the U.S. Ryder Cup race following the U.S. Open, and there's also a familiar name now on the outside looking in.

Brooks Koepka's successful title defense vaulted him to the top of the American points race, up four spots and ensuring he'll be on the team Jim Furyk takes to Paris in September. Dustin Johnson's third-place finish moved him past Patrick Reed at No. 2, while Webb Simpson entered the top eight after a a tie for 10th.

While Bryson DeChambeau remained at No. 9, Phil Mickelson dropped two spots to No. 10. Tony Finau, who finished alone in fifth, went from 16th to 13th, while Tiger Woods fell two spots to No. 37.

Here's a look at the latest U.S. standings, with the top eight after the PGA Championship qualifying automatically:

1. Brooks Koepka

2. Dustin Johnson

3. Patrick Reed

4. Justin Thomas

5. Jordan Spieth

6. Rickie Fowler

7. Bubba Watson

8. Webb Simpson

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9. Bryson DeChambeau

10. Phil Mickelson

11. Matt Kuchar

12. Brian Harman

On the European side, England's Tommy Fleetwood took a big stride toward securing his first Ryder Cup appearance with a runner-up finish that included a Sunday 63 while countryman Matthew Fitzpatrick snuck into a qualifying spot after tying for 12th.

Here's a look at the updated Euro standings, with the top four from both points lists joining four picks from captain Thomas Bjorn at Le Golf National:

European Points

1. Tyrrell Hatton

2. Justin Rose

3. Tommy Fleetwood

4. Francesco Molinari

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5. Thorbjorn Olesen

6. Ross Fisher

World Points

1. Jon Rahm

2. Rory McIlroy

3. Alex Noren

4. Matthew Fitzpatrick

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5. Ian Poulter

6. Rafael Cabrera-Bello