Golf Talk Live - Carin Koch Transcript Segment 2
HAVE YOU ALWAYS HAD A LITTLE BIT OF A TEMPER?
AT LEAST ON THE GOLF COURSE. YEAH, I, I HAVE. I'VE ALWAYS HAD A TEMPER.
(PETER AND CARIN LAUGH)
HAVE YOU HAD TO APOLOGIZE TO SORT OF FAMILY AND FRIENDS OVER THE YEARS FOR AN OUTBURST?
NO, IT HASN'T BEEN THAT BAD. WELL I HAVE TO, MY HUSBAND, BECAUSE HE CADDIED FOR ME FOR THREE YEARS SO I DEFINITELY HAD TO APOLOGIZE TO HIM A FEW TIMES AND WE DID PRETTY GOOD AT KEEPING THE GOLF ON THE GOLF COURSE AND NOT TAKING IT HOME WITH US, AND THEN, THE THIRD YEAR WE DID NOT SO GOOD ON IT SO THEN, HE'S NOT CADDYING ANYMORE. WE DECIDED TO STAY MARRIED INSTEAD. BUT, YEAH I'VE ALWAYS HAD A TEMPER AND I'VE ALWAYS HAD TO FIGHT AND TRY TO NOT HAVE A TEMPER, AND THAT'S HARD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I CARE SO MUCH ABOUT WHAT I DO AND I CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THE GAME. THE PART OF MY GOOD SIDE IS THAT I DO HAVE THAT TEMPER AND I JUST HAVE TO GET IT OUT OF ME IN A DIFFERENT WAY, AND, AND TRY TO CONTROL IT.
HOW DO YOU WORK ON IT IF ONE CAN WORK ON IT?
(SIGHS) I WISH I KNEW THE ANSWER TO THAT (LAUGHS). I, I WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE DAYS THAT I'D COME OUT AND MY GOAL WOULD ALMOST BE, NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT TO BE MAD, AND THAT, THOSE WOULDN'T BE VERY GOOD DAYS BECAUSE I WOULDN'T CARE, INSTEAD, AND IT, AND I'VE TRIED TO FIND THAT BALANCE, AND THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE I HAD MY SON, AND, I'VE GOTTEN A LOT CALMER AND I, IT'S NATURALLY COME TO ME. I HAVEN'T HAD TO WORK ON IT. I STILL LOSE IT SOMETIMES. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT PERFECT, YET, BUT IT'S, I'M IN MORE HARMONY MYSELF NOW, AND I DON'T, GOLF IS NOT AS BIG OF A THING ANYMORE, SO I DON'T TAKE EVERY BAD SHOT SO SERIOUSLY ANYMORE.
IS YOUR HUSBAND MORE EVEN TEMPERED THAN YOU ARE?
YES, HE'S VERY LAID BACK AND EVEN TEMPERED, WHICH IS GOOD.
WELL SO HOW DID HE MAKE THE CLEVER DECISION TO GO FROM YOU TO EQUALLY IF NOT, MORE TEMPERAMENTAL, HELEN ALFREDSON AND WORK FOR HER FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS?
UH THAT'S A, WELL, I GUESS YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK HIM THAT QUESTION, BUT, HE'S, HE'S KNOWN HELEN FOR LONGER THAN HE'S KNOWN ME ACTUALLY. THEY KNEW EACH OTHER PLAYING GOLF GROWING UP AT THE SAME CLUB IN SWEDEN AND IT JUST KIND OF CAME NATURALLY. SHE ASKED HIM FOR ONE TOURNAMENT AND THEY WORKED WELL TOGETHER, I THINK BECAUSE THEY'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER SO LONG, AND HE IS EVEN TEMPERED AND CALM SO... US, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE HOT NATURED PEOPLE NEED THAT I THINK.
SWEDEN SEEMS TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP AND NURTURE THE TALENT OF YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE IT, AND EVEN TO THE EXTENT THAT GOLF IS AN EXPENSIVE GAME HERE BUT IT'S
INEXPENSIVE IN SWEDEN, AND THEN IF YOU SHOW SOME PROMISE AT AN EARLY AGE IT DOESN'T COST YOU ANYTHING AT ALL. TELL US HOW THAT WORKS.
WELL, THE, ALL THE CLUBS IN SWEDEN ARE, WHAT YOU WOULD CALL HERE, I GUESS, SEMI-PRIVATE. YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE A MEMBER SOMEWHERE AND IF YOU'RE A MEMBER SOMEWHERE YOU CAN PLAY ANYWHERE FOR GREEN FEES AND BEING A MEMBER CAN BE VERY CHEAP.
YOU CAN BE A MEMBER AT A CLUB THAT YOU NEVER REALLY PLAY AT, YOU JUST KIND OF WRITE LETTERS OR YOU JUST SEND YOUR ANNUAL FEE IN AND THEY MIGHT NOT EVEN HAVE A COURSE, OR I THINK THEY HAVE TO HAVE A COURSE BUT IT MIGHT BE A NINE HOLE COURSE UP NORTH SOMEWHERE WHERE IT'S REALLY CHEAP LAND, SO IT CAN BE REALLY INEXPENSIVE TO BE A MEMBER AND THEN YOU CAN PAY GREENS FEES AND GREENS FEES ARE MAYBE, ON AN AVERAGE, 25 DOLLARS ON THE WEEKENDS AND 20 OR A HUNDRED, OR 15 ON THE WEEKDAYS, SO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT VERY EXPENSIVE TO PLAY, AND, WHEN, ALL THE CLUBS USUALLY HAVE A LOT OF JUNIOR ACTIVITIES. JUNIORS ARE VERY WELCOME TO PLAY.
AT OUR CLUB, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD A POOL, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HIT SOME BALLS AND THEN GO TO POOL AND JUST HANG OUT ON SUMMER DAYS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW THE WEATHER WAS GOOD ENOUGH.
SO, IT'S JUST, IT'S EASY TO, TO PLAY AND IT'S INEXPENSIVE LIKE YOU SAID AND, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT IT DOESN'T COST ANYTHING AT ALL IF YOU GET BETTER BUT YOUR CLUB USUALLY WILL HELP YOU, LIKE THEY HELP ME, WITH GAS MONEY FOR, TO GO TO TOURNAMENTS AND THE ENTRANCE FEE, SO MY PARENTS DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY ALL OF IT.
WHAT ABOUT THE SWEDISH GOLF FEDERATION, DON'T THEY, AT SOME POINT, IF YOU'RE GOOD ENOUGH, TAKE YOU UNDER THEIR WING AND SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE COST OF WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE SO THAT YOU CAN WORK ON YOUR GAME AND TRAVEL A LITTLE BIT TO PLAY IN TOURNAMENTS?
YEAH, THEY, YOU BECOME A MEMBER OF THE NATIONAL TEAM IF YOU'RE A GOOD PLAYER, AND, WHAT WE DID, WE WENT TO SPAIN, FOR EXAMPLE, ON TRAINING CAMPS, IN THE WINTER TIME. THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY PAID FOR THAT, AND THEN MY, MY CLUB STILL HELPED ME AS WELL WITH, STILL WITH THE GAS MONEY AND THE ENTRY FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO ALTOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THOSE TWO HELPED TO PAY A LOT OF IT.
HOW DID YOU AND ANNIKA SORENSTAM BECOME FRIENDLY?
WE'VE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR YEARS. WE PLAYED TOGETHER WHEN WE WERE QUITE YOUNG. SHE DIDN'T START AS EARLY AS I DID BECAUSE SHE WAS PLAYING TENNIS AT THE TIME AND SHE LIVED IN ENGLAND WHEN SHE WAS REAL YOUNG, SO, BUT WE WERE PROBABLY 14 OR SO, THE FIRST TIME WE PLAYED TOGETHER AND WE PLAYED ON THE NATIONAL TEAM TOGETHER AND THOSE TRIPS TO SPAIN WE'VE DONE TOGETHER AND ALL THAT KIND OF THINGS.
IF YOU COULD ADOPT ONE OF HER PERSONALITY TRAITS OR ONE OF HER DISCIPLINES THAT YOU PARTICULARLY APPRECIATE AND ADOPT IT FOR YOUR OWN, WHAT MIGHT THAT BE?
I'D LIKE TO ADOPT IT ALL IF I COULD
(PETER AND CARIN LAUGH)
EVERYTHING ON THE GOLF COURSE I'D LOVE TO HAVE. DEFINITELY HER MENTAL STRENGTH. YOU KNOW, SHE, SHE HAS A GREAT GOLF GAME, A GREAT GOLF SWING AND EVERYTHING IS, YOU KNOW, PERFECT, BUT HER MENTAL ABILITIES ARE JUST INCREDIBLE. I THINK SHE'S SO STRONG AND SHE DOESN'T GET DOWN ON HERSELF TOO MUCH, OR IF SHE DOES SHE COMES BACK UP RIGHT AWAY, AND YOU KNOW, I, I TRY TO LEARN A LOT FROM HER.
HAS SHE ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT OR WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD SEE DEVELOPING OVER TIME WITH HER?
I THINK IT DEVELOPED OVER TIME. I, I WAS JUST TALKING TO OUR COACH THAT WE BOTH HAD PIA NILSON ON THE NATIONAL TEAM AND WE WERE JUST MEM... JUST REMEMBERING WHEN WE PLAYED AND WON THE 1990 EUROPEAN TEAM, JUNIOR TEAM CHAMPIONSHIPS IN IRELAND AND ONE, I THINK IT WAS ONE PLAYER COULDN'T PLAY THE LAST DAY, OR, OR SOMETHING AND ANNIKA ASKED THAT SHE DIDN'T PLAY, AND THAT'S KIND OF FUNNY NOW, YOU KNOW THAT, MOST OF THOSE GIRLS ARE NOT EVEN REALLY PLAYING THAT MUCH ANYMORE AND HERE'S ANNIKA'S WHO'S, YOU KNOW, NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD, AND SHE DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY, SO I THINK, I THINK IT CAME OVER TIME AND, AND WHEN SHE WON HE OPEN, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WAS JUST A HUGE THING FOR ME BECAUSE I'D GROWN UP WITH HER AND HERE, ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, SHE'S THE OPEN CHAMPION.
WE'LL TAKE A BREAK
20:AND BE RIGHT BACK WITH CARIN KOCH. SOME ODDS AND ENDS FROM HER GREAT 2000 SEASON AS WE LEAVE YOU.
CARIN KOCH - 2000 SEASON
-WON THE CHRYSLER OPEN ON THE EVIAN LADIES EUROPEAN TOUR.
-FIRST EUROPEAN PLAYER TO PLAY MORE THAN ONE MATCH AND GO UNDEFEATED AND UNTIED (3-0-0) IN HER DEBUT SOLHEIM CUP PERFORMANCE
-WON 2000 LADIES' WORLD CUP OF GOLF WITH PARTNER SOPHIE GUSTAFSON
-PLAYED IN LPGA TOUR CHAMPIONSHIP FOR 1ST TIME AFTER HIGHEST CAREER MONEY LIST FINISH (28TH)
Berger more than ready to rebound at Travelers
CROMWELL, Conn. – Daniel Berger hopes that this year he gets to be on the other end of a viral moment at the Travelers Championship.
Berger was a hard-luck runner-up last year at TPC River Highlands, a spectator as Jordan Spieth holed a bunker shot to defeat him in a playoff. It was the second straight year that the 25-year-old came up just short outside Hartford, as he carried a three-shot lead into the 2016 event before fading to a tie for fifth.
While he wasn’t lacking any motivation after last year’s close call, Berger got another dose last week at the U.S. Open when he joined Tony Finau as a surprise participant in the final group Sunday, only to shoot a 73 and drift to a T-6 finish.
“It was one of the best experiences of my professional golf career so far. I feel like I’m going to be in such a better place next time I’m in that position, having felt those emotions and kind of gone through it,” Berger said. “There was a lot of reflection after that because I felt like I played good enough to get it done Sunday. I didn’t make as many putts as I wanted to, but I hit a lot of really good putts. And that’s really all you can do.”
Berger missed the cut earlier this month to end his quest for three straight titles in Memphis, but his otherwise consistent season has now included six top-20 finishes since January. After working his way into contention last week and still with a score to settle at TPC River Highlands, he’s eager to get back to work against another star-studded field.
“I think all these experiences you just learn from,” Berger said. “I think last week, having learned from that, I think that’s even going to make me a little better this week. So I’m excited to get going.”
Rory tired of the near-misses, determined to close
CROMWELL, Conn. – Rory McIlroy has returned to the Travelers Championship with an eye on bumping up his winning percentage.
McIlroy stormed from the back of the pack to win the Arnold Palmer Invitational in March, but that remains his lone worldwide win since the 2016 Tour Championship. It speaks to McIlroy’s considerable ability and lofty expectations that, even with a number of other high finishes this season, he is left unsatisfied.
“I feel like I’ve had five realistic chances to win this year, and I’ve been able to close out one of them. That’s a bit disappointing, I guess,” McIlroy said. “But at least I’ve given myself five chances to win golf tournaments, which is much more than I did last year.”
The most memorable of McIlroy’s near-misses is likely the Masters, when he played alongside Patrick Reed in Sunday’s final group but struggled en route to a T-5 finish. But more frustrating in the Ulsterman’s eyes were his runner-up at the Omega Dubai Desert Classic, when he led by two shots with eight holes to go, and a second-place showing behind Francesco Molinari at the BMW PGA Championship in May.
“There’s been some good golf in there,” he said. “I feel like I let Dubai and Wentworth get away a little bit.”
He’ll have a chance to rectify that trend this week at TPC River Highlands, where he finished T-17 last year in his tournament debut and liked the course and the tournament enough to keep it on his schedule. It comes on the heels of a missed cut at the U.S. Open, when he was 10 over through 11 holes and never got on track. McIlroy views that result as more of an aberration during a season in which he has had plenty of chances to contend on the weekend.
“I didn’t necessarily play that badly last week. I feel like if I play similarly this week, I might have a good chance to win,” McIlroy said. “I think when you play in conditions like that, it magnifies parts of your game that maybe don’t stack up quite as good as the rest of your game, and it magnified a couple of things for me that I worked on over the weekend.”
Sunday run at Shinnecock gave Reed even more confidence
CROMWELL, Conn. – While many big names are just coming around to the notion that the Travelers Championship is worth adding to the schedule, Patrick Reed has been making TPC River Highlands one of his favorite haunts for years.
Reed will make his seventh straight appearance outside Hartford, where he tied for fifth last year and was T-11 the year before that. He is eager to get back to the grind after a stressful week at the U.S. Open, both because of his past success here and because it will offer him a chance to build on a near-miss at Shinnecock Hills.
Reed started the final round three shots off the lead, but he quickly stormed toward the top of the leaderboard and became one of Brooks Koepka’s chief threats after birdies on five of his first seven holes. Reed couldn’t maintain the momentum in the middle of the round, carding three subsequent bogeys, and ultimately tied for fourth.
It was a bittersweet result, but Reed is focusing on the positives after taking a couple days to reflect.
“If you would have told me that I had a chance to win coming down Sunday, I would have been pleased,” Reed said. “I felt like I just made too many careless mistakes towards the end, and because of that, you’re not going to win at any major making careless mistakes, especially on Sunday.”
Reed broke through for his first major title at the Masters, and he has now finished fourth or better in three straight majors dating back to a runner-up at the PGA last summer. With another chance to add to that record next month in Scotland, he hopes to carry the energy from last week’s close call into this week’s event on a course where he feels right at home.
“It just gives me confidence, more than anything,” Reed said. “Of course I would have loved to have closed it out and win, but it was a great week all in all, and there’s a lot of stuff I can take from it moving forward. That’s how I’m looking at it.”
Koepka back to work, looking to add to trophy collection
CROMWELL, Conn. – Days after ensuring the U.S. Open trophy remained in his possession for another year, Brooks Koepka went back to work.
Koepka flew home to Florida after successfully defending his title at Shinnecock Hills, celebrating the victory Monday night with Dustin Johnson, Paulina Gretzky, swing coach Claude Harmon III and a handful of close friends. But he didn’t fully unwind because of a decision to honor his commitment to the Travelers Championship, becoming the first player to tee it up the week after a U.S. Open win since Justin Rose in 2013.
Koepka withdrew from the Travelers pro-am, but he flew north to Connecticut on Wednesday and arrived to TPC River Highlands around 3 p.m., quickly heading to the driving range to get in a light practice session.
“It still hasn’t sunk in, to be honest with you,” Koepka said. “I’m still focused on this week. It was just like, ‘All right, if I can get through this week, then I’m going to be hanging with my buddies next week.’ I know then maybe it’ll sink in, and I’ll get to reflect on it a little bit more.”
Koepka’s plans next week with friends in Boston meant this week’s event outside Hartford made logistical sense. But he was also motivated to play this week because, plainly, he hasn’t had that many playing opportunities this year after missing nearly four months with a wrist injury.
“I’ve had so many months at home being on the couch. I don’t need to spend any more time on the couch,” Koepka said. “As far as skipping, it never crossed my mind.”
Koepka’s legacy was undoubtedly bolstered by his win at Shinnecock, as he became the first player in nearly 30 years to successfully defend a U.S. Open title. But he has only one other PGA Tour win to his credit, that being the 2015 Waste Management Phoenix Open, and his goal for the rest of the season is to make 2018 his first year with multiple trophies on the mantle.
“If you’re out here for more than probably 15 events, it gives you a little better chance to win a couple times. Being on the sidelines isn’t fun,” Koepka said. “Keep doing what we’re doing and just try to win multiple times every year. I feel like I have the talent. I just never did it for whatever reason. Always felt like we ran into a buzzsaw. So just keep plugging away.”