Golf Talk Live - Carin Koch Transcript Segment 3

By Golf Channel DigitalJanuary 22, 2001, 5:00 pm
PETER KESSLER
WE ONCE HAD JOHN MAHAFFEY, THE GREAT U.S. PLAYER ON OUR SHOW AND I ASKED HIM ABOUT HOW NERVOUS HE WAS DURING THE RYDER CUP AND HE SAID HE WAS SO NERVOUS ON THE FIRST TEE THE FIRST DAY THAT HE WONDERED HOW YOU MOVED THE CLUB BACK AND THEN HE ALSO WONDERED HOW YOU MOVE IT BACK DOWN, WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO THE SENSE OF PRESSURE AS YOU TEED IT UP ON YOUR FIRST SOLHEIM CUP?

CARIN KOCH
WELL WHEN I, MY FIRST TEE SHOT, I, I WAS VERY NERVOUS BUT IT WAS A, A DRIL... ADRENALIN KIND OF NERVOUS. I HAD SO

PETER KESSLER
THE GOOD KIND

CARIN KOCH
MUCH ADRENALIN ON MY FIRST SHOT IT WAS AMAZING, AND IT WAS JUST A INCREDIBLE FEELING TO BE THERE, FINALLY, BECAUSE I, KIND OF MISSED OUT A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE AND I'D ALREADY, ALL, ALWAYS FELT THAT IF I JUST MAKE IT THERE I THINK I'D DO OKAY BECAUSE I ALWAYS LIKE MATCH PLAY AND TEAM PLAY SO I WAS JUST SO EXCITED TO FINALLY BE THERE.

PETER KESSLER
JACK NICKLAUS ONCE TOLD US THAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING AFRAID AND BEING NERVOUS IS THE PREPARATION THAT YOU PUT IN. WOULD YOU BUY INTO THAT?

CARIN KOCH
DEFINITELY. DEFINITELY. IF YOU FEEL PREPARED THEN YOU KNOW YOU CAN DO IT.

PETER KESSLER
WHEN YOU WERE PLAYING, AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK NOW AT THE, JUST TO SET THE STAGE, ON THE FINAL DAY, YOU AND CATRIN NILSMARK, WHO WAS A COUPLE OF HOLES AHEAD

CARIN KOCH
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PETER KESSLER
20:HAD, WHEN YOU WON, THE TWO MATCHES THAT CLENCHED THE PIVOTAL WINNING POINTS AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK NOW AT YOU ON 16 AND YOUR MATCH AGAINST MICHELLE REDMAN AS THIS THING IS COMING DOWN TO THE WIRE AND YOU'RE GETTING READY TO HIT YOUR PITCH TO THE 16TH HOLE IN A MATCH THAT'S ALL SQUARE. GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT GOES ON INSIDE AS WE WATCH THE 16TH HOLE TOGETHER. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN FEELING AT THE TIME.

CARIN KOCH
WELL, AT THIS STAGE, I DEFINITELY REALIZED THAT MY MATCH WAS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT. EARLIER, EARLIER THAT DAY OR WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT I WAS GOING TO PLAY, YOU KNOW, NEXT TO LAST, I KIND OF THOUGHT THAT WELL, IT'LL KIND OF BE OVER BY THE TIME I REACH THE LAST FEW HOLES

PETER KESSLER
AND SO YOU HOPED

CARIN KOCH
SO I HOPED, AND AS THE DAY WENT ON I REALIZED THAT WAS NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE AND THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON. I MEAN TO HIT THAT SHOT INTO THAT HOLE WAS YOU KNOW, JUST AMAZING AND, AND TO MAKE THAT LITTLE PUTT, AND THEN WALKING FROM HERE TO THE NEXT TEE I, YOU, EVERYTHING WAS GOING THROUGH MY HEAD. I KNEW THAT IF I COULD JUST DO SOMETHING DECENT ON THIS HOLE, THAT MIGHT BE THE CUP FOR US. I KNEW THAT.

PETER KESSLER
DID YOU, WERE YOU ABLE TO DO YOUR NORMAL ROUTINE OVER THIS KEY TEE SHOT?

CARIN KOCH
I THINK I WAS, BUT I DEFINITELY HAD THAT FEELING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT HOW AM I GOING TO TAKE THE CLUB BACK. I DEFINITELY HAD THAT AND YOU KNOW, TO HIT THAT SHOT WITH A 5 WOOD RIGHT THEN WAS, IT'S, IT'S JUST AMAZING AND, YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF TAKING MY HA... I'M LIKE OH WHAT DID I DO, AND THAT'S THE FEELING I HAD, I WAS KIND OF IN SHOCK I THINK.

PETER KESSLER
DO YOU GET A VIBRATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON, OTHERWISE, AROUND THE COURSE? HERE'S THE FAMOUS SPLIT SCREEN

CARIN KOCH
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PETER KESSLER
IF CATRIN TWO PUTTS AND YOU MAKE YOURS, IT'S ALL OVER.

CARIN KOCH
YEAH, WELL WHEN I WALKED TO THE GREEN ON 17 I SAW CATRIN WAS HITTING HER 2ND SHOT ON 18 AND I HEARD THE ROAR SO I KNEW THAT SHE'D DONE REALLY GOOD THERE AND I KNEW THAT IF I WOULD MAKE THAT PUTT IT WAS, IT WAS PROBABLY OVER.

PETER KESSLER
IS IT EXCITEMENT, IS IT RELIEF, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE EMOTION THAT GOES THROUGH YOU THAT'S THE STRONGEST?

CARIN KOCH
OH I, I STILL GET GOOSE BUMPS WHEN I SEE THIS. IT WAS BOTH. YOU KNOW, IT WAS RELIEF, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID THAT DAY, IT WAS A VERY LONG DAY. IT STARTED EARLY WITH WRAPPING UP THE MATCHES FROM THE DAY BEFORE AND THEN GOING ON TO REALIZING THAT, MY, WHAT I DID WAS REALLY GOING TO BE IMPORTANT AND IT WAS, IT WAS VERY, VERY EXCITING AND VERY, JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN DESCRIBE THE FEELINGS BUT IT WAS AWESOME.

PETER KESSLER
WHEN EVERYBODY GETS BACK TOGETHER, THE TEAM, AND OF COURSE THE AMERICANS HAD BEEN FAVORED AND THE AMERICANS ARE GENERALLY FAVORED. WHAT SORT OF THE... THINGS THAT YOU SAY TO EACH OTHER, AFTERWARDS THAT YOU KNOW THE KIND OF WE SHOWED THEM SORT OF ATTITUDE THAT YOU EXPRESS AFTER IN PRIVATE.

CARIN KOCH
YEAH THERE WAS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT, A LOT OF, A LOT OF THAT SONG, WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS, WAS PLAYING ALL NIGHT LONG AND, WHILE WE WERE DANCING ON THE TABLE SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD EXCITEMENT GOING ON.

PETER KESSLER
IT WAS AN ODD INCIDENT THAT DISTRACTED THE PLAYERS AND FANS AND MEDIA FROM, YOU KNOW, A ONE HUNDRED PERCENT ENJOYMENT OF THE ENTIRE SOLHEIM CUP

CARIN KOCH
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PETER KESSLER
AND THAT OF COURSE WAS THE CHIP IN BY ANNIKA AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT SOME TAPE HERE WHICH SHOWS WHAT WAS GOING ON AND SHE OF COURSE WAS PLAYING WITH JANICE MOODIE AGAINST PAT HURST AND KELLY ROBINS AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT SOME TAPE NOW AS, AS I ASK YOU ABOUT THIS AND THIS IS AN UNUSUAL ANGLE AND IT APPEARS AS THOUGH EVERYBODY HAS GIVEN ANNIKA ROOM TO PLAY HER SHOT. SHE'S TAKING HER TIME

CARIN KOCH
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PETER KESSLER
20:AND OF COURSE, ULTIMATELY WHAT HAPPENS AFTER SHE HOLES THE CHIP IS THE AMERICAN PLAYERS DISCOVER THAT ANNIKA, IN FACT, MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AWAY. THE REFEREE'S GOING TO CHECK IT OUT AND AGREE WITH THE AMERICANS AND PAT BRADLEY, THE AMERICAN CAPTAIN, IS ULTIMATELY CALLED IN BY THE PLAYERS AND IT WAS HER DECISION TO ASK ANNIKA TO REPLAY A CHIP THAT CLEARLY THE OTHER PLAYERS, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS TAPE, WERE GIVING HER THE ROOM TO DO, THERE WAS NO SENSE OF A QUICK CHIP OR A FUNNY INTENT.

CARIN KOCH
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PETER KESSLER
20:NOW I RAN INTO JULI INKSTER AND BETH DANIEL AS THEY WERE BEING INDUCTED INTO THE WORLD GOLF HALL OF FAME RECENTLY AND BOTH OF THEM SAID TO ME THAT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT PAT BRADLEY AS CAPTAIN, DIDN'T HAVE ANY CHOICE AT ALL BUT TO, ON BEHALF OF HER 12 PERSON TEAM, MAKE ANNIKA REPLAY THE SHOT.

CARIN KOCH
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PETER KESSLER
BECAUSE I HAD TAKEN THE POSITION AND OTHER PEOPLE HAD THAT WE HAD NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE AND THE PLAYERS SAID TO ME, YES, INDIVIDUALLY WOULD YOU DO THAT? NO, BUT IN A TEAM SITUATION THAT PAT HAD LITERALLY NO OTHER OPTION BUT TO ASK FOR THAT TO BE REPLAYED. WHAT'S YOUR SENSE OF THOSE STATEMENTS?

CARIN KOCH
WELL I CAN DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND BETH AND JULI SAYING THAT. THERE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON THE AMERICAN TEAM AT THIS POINT TO JUST WIN A MATCH AND, AND GET A POINT. I DON'T AGREE WITH IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M A LITTLE BIASED, BEING ON THE OTHER TEAM AND I JUST THINK, I JUST THINK IT'S TOO BAD THAT EVERY TIME THE SOLHEIM CUP IS TALKED OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE TONIGHT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COMES UP, AND IT'S TOO BAD THAT IT HAD TO HAPPEN AND, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MUCH NICER IF IT COULD HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S TIE THIS HOLE AND GO ONTO THE NEXT.

PETER KESSLER
IS THERE A LESSON TO BE LEARNED OR IS THERE, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT ALL OF US WHO PLAY SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT AS WE GO FORWARD? NOT JUST WATCHING THESE, YOU KNOW, BIG NAME INTERNATIONAL COMPETITIONS BUT IN OUR OWN PLAY, I S THERE AN ATTITUDE, A LESSON?

CARIN KOCH
HMMM. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

PETER KESSLER
LIKE WHAT WOULD YOU THINK, SUPPOSE THE SOLHEIM CUP ROLLS AROUND AGAIN, AND OF COURSE IT WILL.

CARIN KOCH
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PETER KESSLER
20:AND WOULD YOU BE ENCOURAGING THE TWO TEAMS TO SORT OF GET TOGETHER BEFORE AND LAY OUT A FRIENDLY BUT COMPETITIVE GROUNDWORK FOR SITUATIONS LIKE THESE OR CAN YOU NOT FORESEE THESE KINDS OF THINGS?

CARIN KOCH
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN FORESEE THEM. I HOPE IT WON'T BE NECESSARY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IN EVERYONE'S INTEREST TO HAVE THE MATCHES BE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN GOOD SPIRITS AND BE JUST A PERFECT MATCH WHICH THIS ALMOST WAS.

I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF GOOD GOLF AND A LOT OF GOOD EXCITEMENT IN THESE MATCHES AND IT WAS REALLY GOOD FOR WOMEN'S GOLF AND I JUST HOPE THAT BOTH IN SOLHEIM CUP AND IN RYDER CUP WE CAN, YOU KNOW GET A COUPLE OF THEM WITHOUT
A LOT OF CONTROVERSY.

PETER KESSLER
NOW THAT SOME TIME HAS PASSED AND, AND THE NEW SEASON HAS STARTED, HAVE THE BAD FEELINGS SUBSIDED AND IS EVERYBODY SORT OF BACK WHERE THEY WERE IN TERMS OF THE RELATIONSHIPS OR NOT?

CARIN KOCH
I THINK, AS FAR AS I KNOW, I THINK SO. I, I AM, DEFINITELY, I, I THINK MOST OF IT WAS RESOLVED THEN AND THERE. I THINK THERE WAS A LOT OF FEELINGS FROM, FROM THE TEAMS, FROM OUR TEAM AT FIRST. YOU KNOW, WE WERE VERY STUNNED AND, AND DISAPPOINTED AND MAYBE THERE WERE A LITTLE MORE PERSONAL FEELINGS AT FIRST AND NOW, YOU KNOW, THOSE HAVE KIND OF GONE AWAY, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, KELLY, KELLY COMING TO OUR PARTY AFTER THROWING IN THE WHITE TOWEL FIRST, WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF SOLVED A LOT OF IT, I THINK RIGHT AWAY.

PETER KESSLER
THAT WOULD MAKE ALMOST EVERYTHING GO AWAY WHEN SOMEBODY'S

CARIN KOCH
YEAH, THAT WAS VERY CLASSY

PETER KESSLER
ADULT ENOUGH

CARIN KOCH
20:MHMM

PETER KESSLER
20:TO WALK ACROSS THE ROOM AND SAY HEY

CARIN KOCH
YEAH

PETER KESSLER
LET'S BE FRIENDS

CARIN KOCH
20:MHMM

PETER KESSLER
20:AND IT'S JUST A GAME.

CARIN KOCH
YEAH

PETER KESSLER
WHEN WE COME BACK LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR GOLF SWING AND MAYBE OUR FANS AT HOME CAN LEARN A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT HOW TO

CARIN KOCH
OKAY

PETER KESSLER
DO IT BETTER. DON'T GO AWAY.
 
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Former champ Z. Johnson surges at Valero

By Will GrayApril 20, 2018, 7:31 pm

Midway through his opening round at the Valero Texas Open, Zach Johnson appeared far closer to a missed cut than a spot on the leaderboard.

Johnson initially struggled in the winds at TPC San Antonio, playing his first 13 holes in 3 over. But he eagled No. 14 and closed with three more birdies to post a 2-under 70, then went unconscious during a second-round 65 where he made six birdies over his first 10 holes.

It added up to a 9-under total at the halfway point, and instead of packing his bags the two-time major champ now shares the lead with Ryan Moore.

"You just never know. That's the beauty of this game," Johnson told reporters. "I didn't have anything going putting-wise. I felt like I was hitting some solid shots and wasn't getting rewarded, and you've just got to stay in it. You've got to persevere, grind it out, fight for pars. Shoot, I made some good pars all while being 3 over. You just never know."

Johnson won this event in both 2008 and 2009, but that was when it was held across town at La Cantera Golf Club. Since the switch to TPC San Antonio in 2010, he has only one top-10 finish and two missed cuts, including last year's early exit with consecutive rounds of 74.

But Friday he played like a man unaware of the venue shift, with four straight birdies on Nos. 12-15 and a hole-out eagle from the greenside bunker on the par-4 fifth hole. His closing bogey on No. 9 was his first dropped shot in the last 25 holes.

"The confidence is there, and when you can step on the tee with this kind of wind, you trust your clubs and trust your ball, that's pretty important," Johnson said. "I felt good. It was hard, I'm not going to deny that. That was one of the better 27-hole stretches that I've had in a long time."

Johnson's 65 was his first sub-70 score since an opening-round 69 at the Arnold Palmer Invitational, a span of 12 stroke-play rounds. The veteran has made every cut in 11 starts this season, but his T-8 finish at the RSM Classic in November remains his only top-10 finish.

"I felt really good coming into the week," Johnson said. "Confidence was there, it just wasn't showing up on the scorecard."

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U.S. Open champ Koepka (wrist) to return at Zurich

By Will GrayApril 20, 2018, 7:04 pm

U.S. Open champ Brooks Koepka will make his first start in nearly four months at next week's Zurich Classic of New Orleans.

Koepka injured his left wrist late last year, finishing last at both the 18-man Hero World Challenge and 34-man Sentry Tournament of Champions. He hasn't played since Kapalua, having been diagnosed with a partially torn Extensor Carpi Ulnaris (ECU) tendon in his wrist, and earlier this month missed the Masters for the first time since 2014.

But according to an Associated Press report, Koepka will return to action at next week's team event where he will pair with veteran Marc Turnesa, who lives near Koepka in South Florida and whose lone PGA Tour win came at the 2008 Shriners Hospitals for Children Open.

"It feels like I've been out for six months," said Koepka, who reportedly didn't touch a club for 91 days. "I still have confidence. I feel like I can win next week."

Koepka's return means TPC Louisiana will be the first course to host all four current major champions since the Tour Championship in September. Patrick Reed will make his first start since winning the Masters when he pairs with Patrick Cantlay, while Open champ Jordan Spieth will team with fellow Texan Ryan Palmer and PGA champ Justin Thomas joins with his former Alabama teammate, Bud Cauley.

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Garcia tosses driver, likely to miss Valero cut

By Will GrayApril 20, 2018, 6:49 pm

It wasn't quite to the level of his watery meltdown earlier this month at the Masters, but Sergio Garcia still got frustrated during the second round of the Valero Texas Open - and his driver paid the price.

Garcia had a hand in redesigning the AT&T Oaks Course along with Greg Norman several years ago, but this marked his first return to TPC San Antonio since 2010. After an opening-round 74, Garcia arrived to the tee of the short par-4 fifth hole and decided to get aggressive with driver in hand.

When his shot sailed well left, a heated Garcia chucked the club deep into the bushes that lined the tee box:

It took considerable effort for Garcia to find and retrieve the club amid the branches, and once he did things only got worse. He appeared to shank a chip once he got up to his ball, leading to a bogey on one of the easiest holes on a demanding track.

Garcia closed out his round with four straight pars, and at 2 over he was one shot outside the projected cut line as the afternoon wave began play. Should Garcia make an early exit, it would mark the first time he missed consecutive cuts on the PGA Tour since 2003, when he sat out the weekend at the AT&T Byron Nelson, Fort Worth Invitational and Memorial Tournament in successive weeks.

Garcia entered the week ranked No. 10 in the world, and he was the only top-20 player among the 156-man field. He missed the cut at the Masters in defense of his title after carding an octuple-bogey 13 on the 15th hole during the opening round.

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Cut Line: Poults' Ryder rise; Slow play plague

By Rex HoggardApril 20, 2018, 5:55 pm

In this week’s edition, Colonial enjoys a sponsorship reprieve, the Ryder Cup gets an early boost and it’s time for officials at the Zurich Classic to consider relocation.

Made Cut

See you in September. Just when you thought it might be too early to start the biennial Ryder Cup build up, Ian Poulter, Europe’s own Mr. September, gave the Continent something to celebrate with another solid finish last week at the RBC Heritage.

Although he failed to convert a 54-hole lead, tying for seventh after a closing 75, he earned enough points to move onto the European team bubble (world points), just behind current automatic qualifier Alex Noren.

That the English thorn in America’s Ryder Cup side made his move one week after Patrick Reed wrapped up his spot on the team with his victory at the Masters is all the reason one needs to imagine the possibilities.

Note to U.S. captain Jim Furyk: You can probably pencil in your opening match of Reed-Jordan Spieth vs. Poulter-Rory McIlroy. Oh, and Sunday’s singles – Reed vs. Poulter – as well.

Don’t mess with Texas. Although the PGA Tour is still a few weeks away from unveiling the overhauled 2018-19 schedule, a few more pieces fell into place this week.

According to multiple sources, officials at Colonial are poised to announce a new sponsorship agreement with Charles Schwab Corporation.

There had been some handwringing that the Fort Worth staple, which needed to scramble this season to find replacement sponsors when Dean & DeLuca ended its sponsorship of the event just two years into a six-year agreement, would be the victim of poor timing when the music stopped.

But officials are poised to announce the new long-term sponsorship deal on Monday and sources also confirmed that the event will remain in May, which had been another concern on the imminent overhaul of the Tour schedule.

Next up for the Tour: finding sponsors for The National and Houston Open.


Made Cut-Did Not Finish (MDF)

Location, location, location. The high on Friday in Farmingdale, N.Y., topped out at 47 degrees.

Cut Line doesn’t have to explain to his friends in the northeast how long winter has lingered this season, but it’s worth pointing out that with the PGA Championship moving to May next year these long cold spells could impact conditions at future venues, like Bethpage Black, which will host the 2019 PGA.

Although this year’s PGA, which will be played in August at Bellerive Country Club, won’t be impacted, when you consider that three of the next six championships are scheduled to be played in northern states, it’s beginning to seem more likely that geography is not on the PGA of America’s side.

Bayou breakthrough. If the field for this year’s Zurich Classic is any indication, the team format that officials introduced in 2017 remains popular, which is an encouraging sign for golf in New Orleans.


It’s time now for tournament officials to continue that progress and break free of TPC Louisiana, an uninspired layout that’s too far removed from the French Quarter and not exactly popular with players.

About a year ago, officials opened the South Course at City Park, a community-based program modeled after the East Lake project in Atlanta with a mission to revitalize City Park and the surrounding neighborhoods.

For years, insiders have considered the City Park layout, which was designed by Rees Jones, an alternative to TPC Louisiana. It’s time to stop talking about moving the event to City Park and make it happen. The tournament deserves better. The city deserves better.


Tweet(s) of the week: We go with a pair of hot takes from two of the game’s most insightful and thoughtful types on what remains one of golf’s most talked-about subjects – slow play.


Missed Cut

Money trail. During his last year as commissioner of the PGA Tour, Tim Finchem earned a combined income of over $9 million.

According to the circuit’s tax forms filed for 2016, Finchem made $4.33 million in “reportable compensation” from the Tour and another $4.74 million from “related organizations.” He also earned $181,784 in “other compensation.”

Compared to 2015, when Finchem earned $5.9 million in combined income, that’s a healthy bump. To be fair, when Finchem retired after nearly 20 years of leading the circuit most observers agreed that the Tour’s unprecedented growth during his tenure justified his salary, and compared to other professional sports leagues the commissioner’s “take home” was not out of the ordinary.

It is, however, worth noting that Finchem earned more than just one player in 2016, Dustin Johnson, who narrowly clipped the commissioner with $9.3 million in on-course earnings. It’s good to be the commish, or former commish.