Golf Talk Live - Charles Howell III Transcript Segment 3

By Golf Channel DigitalAugust 6, 2001, 4:00 pm
RICH LERNER
1996 U.S. AMATEUR AT PUMPKIN RIDGE. YOU KNOW THIS GUY. (LAUGHS)

CHARLES HOWELL III
YES

RICH LERNER
AND THE OPPONENT THAT DAY IN THE QUARTER FINALS AND SITTING TO MY LEFT.

WHAT DID YOU KNOW ABOUT TIGER WOODS, CHARLES, BEFORE THAT MATCH?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL I KNEW WHO HE WAS OBVIOUSLY AND I'LL, I'LL NEVER FORGET. I MADE A PUTT THAT MORNING TO WIN MY MORNING MATCH TO PLAY TIGER THAT AFTERNOON AND I WAS, I, I MEAN I WAS SO

HAPPY TO MAKE THE PUTT BUT AT THE SAME TIME I WAS ABOUT TO THROW UP
BECAUSE YOU KNOW I HAD TO PLAY TIGER THAT AFTERNOON BUT, YEAH THAT, THAT WAS SOMETHING.

RICH LERNER
YOU WERE HOW OLD, 17?

CHARLES HOWELL III
UH 16 AT THE TIME.

RICH LERNER
16 AT THE

CHARLES HOWELL III
YES

RICH LERNER
TIME.

CHARLES HOWELL III
YES

RICH LERNER
DID YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE AS YOU STEPPED TO THE TEE... I DON'T CARE WHO HE IS I CAN BEAT THIS GUY?

CHARLES HOWELL III
YOU KNOW I DID. I REALLY DID. I, I WANTED TO BEAT HIM SO BAD YOU CAN'T IMAGINE. I, YOU KNOW, I GOT UP ON THE FIRST HOLE AND HIT A REALLY GOOD TEE BALL AND HIT IT FOUR FEET FOR A BIRDIE AND I GOT UP THERE AND TIGER HAD MADE PAR AND, AND I THOUGHT YOU

KNOW THIS, THIS IS GOING UP ON TIGER WOODS. I DIDN'T EVEN HIT THE HOLE, BUT NO, IT WAS A HECK OF A MATCH. HE ENDED UP BEATING ME ON THE 17TH HOLE BUT UH IT WAS FUN.

RICH LERNER
HOW DID YOU PLAY THAT DAY?

CHARLES HOWELL III
YOU KNOW I PLAYED OKAY. I WAS, I WAS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT TOO STAR STRUCK AND PROBABLY HAD TOO MUCH PAYING ATTENTION TO HIS GAME THAN I SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING BUT UH, IT, YOU KNOW IT WAS , IT YOU KNOW, GAVE ME SO MUCH EXPERIENCE.

RICH LERNER
HOW DID YOU MATCH UP WITH HIM LENGTH WISE OFF THE TEE AT THAT POINT?

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH AT THAT POINT HE WAS HITTING IT FOREVER. I, I, I THINK HE WAS PROBABLY HITTING IT FURTHER THEN THAN HE IS NOW.

RICH LERNER
YEAH I THINK HE'S DIALED IT BACK A LITTLE BIT.

CHARLES HOWELL III
YEAH IT'S, I MEAN, I, I WAS HIT, I WASN'T HITTING IT SHORT AT THAT TIME AND HE, HE WAS MOVING IT.

RICH LERNER
WERE YOU AT ALL SURPRISED AT THE SUCCESS THAT HE HAD? I MEAN WE'RE TALKING UNPRECEDENTED LEVELS OF SUCCESS.

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT

RICH LERNER
OR DID YOU SEE THAT BASED UPON WHAT YOU WITNESSED AT THE U.S. AMATEUR FOR EXAMPLE?

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH NO, HE, IT WAS ALL EXPECTED. I MEAN, WHAT, THE THINGS HE'S DONE HAVE JUST BEEN INCREDIBLE. I MEAN HE, YOU KNOW HE'S AWESOME. HE'S, YOU KNOW WHAT HE'S WON AND ACCOMPLISHED AND THE

LEVEL THAT HE'S PLAYED AT FOR SO LONG IS OH YEAH IT WAS COMING.

RICH LERNER
DOES IT MAKE YOU AT ALL A BIT IMPATIENT BECAUSE HE HAD SUCCESS QUICKLY. WON THE MASTERS AT 21.

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT

RICH LERNER
HE HAD DONE SO MUCH AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE. DOES IT MAKE YOU AT ALL IMPATIENT? I GOT TO GET IT NOW.

CHARLES HOWELL III
YOU, YOU KNOW IT'LL BE A PART OF IT DOES. YOU KNOW, A PART OF ME THAT WANTS TO WIN TOURNAMENTS, IT REALLY DOES. I'VE BEEN CLOSE A COUPLE TIMES, I HAD A THIRD AT JOHN DEERE LAST YEAR AND THEN THE PLAY OFF AT MILWAUKEE

THIS YEAR AND EVEN LAST WEEK AT INTERNATIONAL I THOUGHT I HAD A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE TO WIN THERE COMING IN THE LAST DAY AND YEAH, IT MAKES ME WANT TO GET THAT FIRST WIN PRETTY BAD.

RICH LERNER
ARE YOU REASONABLY COMFORTABLE WITH THE COMPARISONS AND WITH THE IDEA THAT SOME HAVE TAGGED YOU AS THE LIKELY FUTURE RIVAL TO TIGER WOODS?

CHARLES HOWELL III
YEAH I AM, YOU KNOW IT'S, IT'S MORE FLATTERY THAN ANYTHING I THINK, IT'S, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AREN'T COMPARING YOU TO TIGER WOODS THEN THEY DON'T THINK YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T THINK YOU HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF GAME REALLY SO TO SPEAK AND I NO, I, I TAKE IT ALL.

RICH LERNER
WHAT DOES HE DO THAT YOU CURRENTLY DO NOT? THAT YOU FEEL YOU WILL NEED TO PUT IN ORDER IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO TIGER?

CHARLES HOWELL III
UM, YOU KNOW I THINK A LOT OF IT IS THAT YOU CAN'T SEE IT. I THINK HIS HEAD IS, IS SO GOOD AND IT'S SO STRONG AND HIS MENTAL GAME IS JUST, IS LIGHT YEARS BEYOND ANYBODY ELSE. I REMEMBER

COACH HOLDREN (?) AND I WERE TALKING MY SOPHOMORE YEAR AT COLLEGE AND HE SAID THAT FOR SO LONG PEOPLE WORKED ON THE PHYSICAL ASPECT OF THE GAME AND AS SOON AS SOMEBODY

FIGURES OUT THE MENTAL ASPECT THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A REAL WINNER AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT TIGER'S DONE.

RICH LERNER
DO YOU HAVE A STEEL TRAP FOR A MIND AS TIGER HAS, AS HOGAN HAD, AS NICKLAUS HAD AND, AND A LITTLE BIT OF A MEAN STREAK. I SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A MEAN STREAK

CHARLES HOWELL III
YES

RICH LERNER
IN TIGER, COMPETITIVELY SPEAKING

ONLY.

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT.

OH NO, I'M, I'M THE SAME WAY. I, I HATE TO LOSE. IT UH, YOU KNOW LOSING REALLY BOTHERS ME. I KNOW I DON'T LIKE IT ONE BIT AND I TAKE IT PERSONAL AND SERIOUS AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE THING I PLAYED LAST WEEK WITH VIJAY SINGH AND THAT'S ONE THING I NOTICED ABOUT HIM IS JUST HOW

UNBELIEVABLY SERIOUS THAT HE TAKES HIS GAME AND HE TAKES HIS GOLF AND TIGER'S THE SAME WAY.

RICH LERNER
YOU FINISHED RUNNER UP AT MILWAUKEE TO SHIGEKI MARUYAMA.

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT

RICH LERNER
PLAYED WELL AT THE JOHN DEERE LAST YEAR. WELL AT THE INTERNATIONAL, TOP TENS AT THE BELL SOUTH IN NEW ORLEANS.

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT

RICH LERNER
WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED ALONG THE WAY?

CHARLES HOWELL III
I, I'VE LEARNED, I'VE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. I'VE LEARNED THAT I CAN WIN. YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN CLOSE THOSE FIVE TIMES TO WINNING BUT I'VE ALSO LEARNED THAT THAT IT TAKES A LITTLE SOMETHING SPECIAL TO WIN.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW THIS PUTT HERE, FOR EXAMPLE, I THOUGHT RIGHT HERE I'D MADE IT AND MY HEART KIND OF STOPPED TO THINKING I, YOU KNOW, COULD HAVE WON A GOLF TOURNAMENT WITH THAT PUTT

RICH LERNER
MMM

CHARLES HOWELL III
BUT IT, IT, IT TAKES SOMETHING SPECIAL TO WIN AND YOU KNOW I HADN'T QUITE GOTTEN IT YET BUT WHEN I DO I'M SURE IT'LL BE AWESOME.

RICH LERNER
LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT SO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO FOCUS ON WHEN THEY FIRST LAY EYES ON YOUR GAME AND THAT IS THE WOW FACTOR. THE DISTANCE YOU HIT THE BALL OFF THE TEE AND WE TOUCHED ON THIS IN THE PREVIOUS SEGMENT. WHAT ARE YOU DOING

TECHNICALLY TO GENERATE THAT POWER, TO GET THAT TREMENDOUS LAG

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT

RICH LERNER
THAT SO MANY PLAYERS STRIVE TO GET. THE LAG AND THE DRAG. HOW DO YOU GET IT DONE?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL YOU KNOW FORTUNATELY I'M BLESSED WITH A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY AND COMBINE THAT WITH A LOT OF WORKING OUT TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD UP MY STRENGTH AND YOU KNOW, FORTUNATELY FOR ME THAT I HAVE

QUICK HANDS, I HAVE QUICK WRISTS AND QUICK HIPS WHICH SOMETIMES GET ME IN TROUBLE BUT UH, BUT NO I, I, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE WORKING OUT, A LOT OF SWINGING THE FAN (?) IT'S HELPED ME QUITE A BIT AND YOU KNOW AS, NEEDLESS

TO SAY, TOO, MY TECHNOLOGY'S NOT HURTING EITHER WITH THE CALLAWAY DRIVER, WITH THE CALLAWAY GOLF BALL I PICKED UP YARDAGE WITH THAT AS WELL.

RICH LERNER
THAT IS A GORGEOUS GOLF SWING. YOU'RE ALSO VERY LONG WITH YOUR IRONS. GIVE THE AUDIENCE A SENSE OF WHAT YOU HIT YOUR CLUBS. MAYBE 8 IRON DOWN TO LET'S SAY 4 IRON, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT NOW I'M PLAYING, WELL I WAS AN INTERNATIONAL ATHLETE, YOU KNOW IT WAS SCARY

(UNINTELLIGIBLE)

RICH LERNER
THAT, THAT DOESN'T COUNT UP IN THAT, IN THAT AIR,

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL WE'LL THROW THAT ONE AWAY

RICH LERNER
WE CAN, WE CAN ALL HIT IT A DISTANCE.

CHARLES HOWELL III
AT SEA LEVEL I'M HITTING MY IRON ABOUT 175 YARDS. MY 9 IRON ABOUT 160. WEDGE ABOUT 145ISH. ACTUALLY JUST LAST WEEK I PUT A 64 DEGREE WEDGE INTO MY BAG AND PULLED MY THREE IRON OUT, SO I'M TRYING TO PUT, TRYING

TO PUT SOME MORE CLUBS IN THERE AND THE TOP HEAVIER (?) AND THE WEDGES, TRYING TO BID (?) A LOT OF CLUBS IN BETWEEN 150 YARDS AND DOWN. THAT'S WHERE I MAKE A LOT OF YOUR BIRDIES AT.

RICH LERNER
HOW MANY DEGREES ON YOUR DRIVER?

CHARLES HOWELL III
MY DRIVER'S TEN AND A HALF DEGREES. IT SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING. THE, I DON'T SPIN A DRIVER A WHOLE LOT AND I LAUNCH IT PRETTY FLAT SO THAT'S TEN AND A HALF DEGREES. I LAUNCH IT ABOUT TEN AND A HALF.

RICH LERNER
YOUR SWING SPEED BEEN MEASURED?

CHARLES HOWELL III
IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN MEASURED A FEW MONTHS AGO. IT'S ABOUT 122, 123 RIGHT NOW.

RICH LERNER
AND WHERE'S TIGER AT, DO YOU KNOW?

CHARLES HOWELL III
I DON'T KNOW. I'D SAY HE'S PROBABLY 127 AND IT WHAT, DEPENDS ON HOW FAST HE WANTS TO BE OR HOW MAD HE IS, SO TO SPEAK.

RICH LERNER
(LAUGHS)

RICH LERNER
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE UP THERE.

CHARLES HOWELL III
IT'S CLOSE. NOT QUITE HIS, BUT CLOSE.

RICH LERNER
YOU CAN MOVE IT THROUGH IMPACT. AND WE, WE SAW EVIDENCE OF THAT. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK. WE WILL COME BACK WITH A WHOLE LOT MORE WITH CHARLIE HOWELL RIGHT AFTER THIS. STAY WITH US.

(MUSIC)

(BREAK)

NEXT SEGMENT
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Vegas helicopters in to Carnoustie, without clubs

By Golf Channel DigitalJuly 19, 2018, 9:33 am

Jhonattan Vegas did some range work, putted a little and strolled to the first tee for his 5:31 a.m. ET start in the 147th Open Championship.

Everything before that, however, was far from routine.



Vegas' visa to travel to Scotland expired and the process to renew it got delayed - and it looked like his overseas' flight might suffer the same fate. Vegas, upon getting his visa updated, traveled from Houston, Texas to Toronto, Canada to Glasgow, Scotland, and then took a helicopter to Carnoustie.

He arrived in time on Thursday morning, but his clubs did not. Mizuno put together some irons for him and TaylorMade got him his preferred metal woods. He hit the clubs for the first time on the range, less than 90 minutes before his start.

"I'm going to go out there and play with freedom," Vegas told Golf Channel's Todd Lewis.

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How to watch The Open on TV and online

By Golf Channel DigitalJuly 19, 2018, 5:40 am

You want to watch the 147th Open? Here’s how you can do it.

Golf Channel and NBC Sports will be televising 182 hours of overall programming from the men's third major of the year at Carnoustie

In addition to the traditional coverage, the two networks will showcase three live alternate feeds: marquee groups, featured holes (our new 3-hole channel) and spotlight action. You can also watch replays of full-day coverage, Thursday-Sunday, in the Golf Channel app, NBC Sports apps, and on GolfChannel.com.  

Here’s the weekly TV schedule, with live stream links in parentheses. You can view all the action on the Golf Channel mobile, as well. Alternate coverage is noted in italics:

(All times Eastern; GC=Golf Channel; NBC=NBC Sports; GC.com=GolfChannel.com or check the GLE app)

Monday, July 16

GC: 7-9AM: Morning Drive (stream.golfchannel.com)

GC: 9-11AM: Live From The Open (www.golfchannel.com/livefromstream)

GC: 7-9PM: Live From The Open (www.golfchannel.com/livefromstream)


Tuesday, July 17

GC: 6AM-2PM: Live From The Open (www.golfchannel.com/livefromstream)


Wednesday, July 18

GC: 6AM-2PM: Live From The Open (www.golfchannel.com/livefromstream)


Thursday, July 19

GC: Midnight-1:30AM: Midnight Drive (stream.golfchannel.com)

GC: Day 1: The Open, live coverage: 1:30AM-4PM (www.golfchannel.com/theopen)

GC.com: Day 1: The Open, Spotlight: 1:30AM-4PM (www.golfchannel.com/spotlight)

GC.com: Day 1: The Open, Marquee Groups: 4AM-3PM (www.golfchannel.com/marqueegroup)

GC.com: Day 1: The Open, 3-Hole Channel: 4AM-3PM (www.golfchannel.com/3holechannel)

GC: Live From The Open: 4-5PM (www.golfchannel.com/livefromstream)


Friday, July 20

GC: Day 2: The Open, live coverage: 1:30AM-4PM (www.golfchannel.com/theopen)

GC.com: Day 2: The Open, Spotlight: 1:30AM-4PM (www.golfchannel.com/spotlight)

GC.com: Day 2: The Open, Marquee Groups: 4AM-3PM (www.golfchannel.com/marqueegroup)

GC.com: Day 2: The Open, 3-Hole Channel: 4AM-3PM (www.golfchannel.com/3holechannel)

GC: Live From The Open: 4-5PM (www.golfchannel.com/livefromstream)


Saturday, July 21

GC: Day 3: The Open, live coverage: 4:30-7AM (www.golfchannel.com/theopen)

NBC: Rd. 3: The Open, live coverage: 7AM-3PM (www.golfchannel.com/theopen)

GC.com: Day 3: The Open, Spotlight: 4:30AM-3PM (www.golfchannel.com/spotlight)

GC.com: Day 3: The Open, Marquee Groups: 5AM-3PM (www.golfchannel.com/marqueegroup)

GC.com: Day 3: The Open, 3-Hole Channel: 5AM-3PM (www.golfchannel.com/3holechannel)

GC: Live From The Open: 3-4PM (www.golfchannel.com/livefromstream)


Sunday, July 22

GC: Day 4: The Open, live coverage: 4:30-7AM (www.golfchannel.com/theopen)

NBC: Rd. 4: The Open, live coverage: 7AM-2:30PM (www.golfchannel.com/theopen)

GC.com: Day 4: The Open, Spotlight: 4:30AM-2:30PM (www.golfchannel.com/spotlight)

GC.com: Day 4: The Open, Marquee Groups: 5AM-2PM (www.golfchannel.com/marqueegroup)

GC.com: Day 4: The Open, 3-Hole Channel: 5AM-2PM (www.golfchannel.com/3holechannel)

GC: Live From The Open: 2:30-4PM (www.golfchannel.com/livefromstream)

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The Open 101: A guide to the year's third major

By Golf Channel DigitalJuly 19, 2018, 5:30 am

Take a look at some answers to frequently asked questions about The Open:

What's all this "The Open" stuff? I thought it was the British Open.

What you call it has historically depended on where you were. If you were in the U.S., you called it the British Open, just as Europeans refer to the PGA Championship as the U.S. PGA. Outside the U.S. it generally has been referred to as The Open Championship. The preferred name of the organizers is The Open.

How old is it?

It's the oldest golf championship, dating back to 1860.

Where is it played?

There is a rotation – or "rota" – of courses used. Currently there are 10: Royal Birkdale, Royal St. George's, Royal Liverpool and Royal Lytham and St. Annes, all in England; Royal Portrush in Northern Ireland and St. Andrews, Carnoustie, Royal Troon, Turnberry and Muirfield, all in Scotland. Muirfield was removed from the rota in 2016 when members voted against allowing female members, but when the vote was reversed in 2017 it was allowed back in.

Where will it be played this year?

At Carnoustie, which is located on the south-eastern shore of Scotland.

Who has won The Open on that course?

Going back to the first time Carnoustie hosted, in 1931, winners there have been Tommy Armour, Henry Cotton (1937), Ben Hogan (1953), Gary Player (1968), Tom Watson (1975), Paul Lawrie (1999), Padraig Harrington (2007).

Wasn't that the year Hogan nearly won the Slam?

Yep. He had won the Masters and U.S. Open that season, then traveled to Carnoustie and won that as well. It was the only time he ever played The Open. He was unable to play the PGA Championship that season because the dates conflicted with those of The Open.

Jean Van de Velde's name should be on that list, right?

This is true. He had a three-shot lead on the final hole in 1999 and made triple bogey. He lost in a playoff to Lawrie, which also included Justin Leonard.

Who has won this event the most?

Harry Vardon, who was from the Channel Island of Jersey, won a record six times between 1896 and 1914. Australian Peter Thomson, American Watson, Scot James Braid and Englishman J.H. Taylor each won five times.

What about the Morrises?

Tom Sr. won four times between 1861 and 1867. His son, Tom Jr., also won four times, between 1868 and 1872.

Have players from any particular country dominated?

In the early days, Scots won the first 29 Opens – not a shocker since they were all played at one of three Scottish courses, Prestwick, St. Andrews and Musselburgh. In the current era, going back to 1999 (we'll explain why that year in a minute), the scoreboard is United States, nine wins; South Africa, three wins; Ireland, two wins; Northern Ireland, two wins; and Sweden, one win. The only Scot to win in that period was Lawrie, who took advantage of one of the biggest collapses in golf history.

Who is this year's defending champion?

That would be American Jordan Spieth, who survived an adventerous final round to defeat Matt Kuchar by three strokes and earn the third leg of the career Grand Slam.

What is the trophy called?

The claret jug. It's official name is the Golf Champion Trophy, but you rarely hear that used. The claret jug replaced the original Challenge Belt in 1872. The winner of the claret jug gets to keep it for a year, then must return it (each winner gets a replica to keep).

Which Opens have been the most memorable?

Well, there was Palmer in 1961and '62; Van de Velde's collapse in 1999; Hogan's win in 1953; Tiger Woods' eight-shot domination of the 2000 Open at St. Andrews; Watson almost winning at age 59 in 2009; Doug Sanders missing what would have been a winning 3-foot putt at St. Andrews in 1970; Tony Jacklin becoming the first Briton to win the championship in 18 years; and, of course, the Duel in the Sun at Turnberry in 1977, in which Watson and Jack Nicklaus dueled head-to-head over the final 36 holes, Watson winning by shooting 65-65 to Nicklaus' 65-66.

When I watch this tournament on TV, I hear lots of unfamiliar terms, like "gorse" and "whin" and "burn." What do these terms mean?

Gorse is a prickly shrub, which sometimes is referred to as whin. Heather is also a shrub. What the scots call a burn, would also be considered a creek or stream.