Golf Talk Live - Chi Chi Rodriguez Transcript Segment 2
WHAT IN YOUR VIEW IS THE CURRENT AND FUTURE STATE, IN YOUR OPINION, OF THE SENIOR TOUR?
CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
I THINK THE SENIOR TOUR IS PRETTY STABLE, IS GOING TO GET BETTER. IT, IT'S TOO BAD THAT JACK HASN'T PLAYED AS MUCH AS HE SHOULD AND ARNOLD OF COURSE, HE'S ON HIS WAY OUT, YOU KNOW, HE'S STILL THE KING OF GOLF. WE NEED TOM WATSON TO PLAY MORE. WE NEED LANNY WADKINS TO PLAY MORE.
TOM KITE, AND THEN BRUCE LIETZKY'S COMING PRETTY SOON AND THEN WHEN FUZZY ZOELLER GETS TO THE SENIOR TOUR, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST HELP BECAUSE HE'S THE, HE'S THE KIND OF GUY THAT THE PEOPLE REALLY LIKE TO BE AROUND. HE'S A COLORFUL GUY PLUS HE CAN REALLY PLAY SOME GOLF.
AND YOU AND LEE TREVINO REALLY HAVE BEEN CARRYING THAT INTERPERSONAL ROLE WITH THE CROWD TO A LARGE EXTENT HAVEN'T YOU THE LAST FEW YEARS?
CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
YEAH BUT SO HAVE ARNOLD AND UH AND UH GARY PLAYER. WE WERE THE, THE FOUR. YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T, IT'S PRETTY TOUGH TO BEAT THOSE YOUNGER GUYS NOW A DAYS SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN WINNING MUCH AND I, I THINK WE NEED UH WE NEED SOME LEADERS LIKE, LIKE FUZZY AND PETER, PETER JACOBSON WHEN HE COMES HE'S GOING TO BE TREMENDOUS FOR US AND SO IS BEN CRENSHAW.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON TOMORROW'S PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?
CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL I HOPE FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY THAT GEORGE BUSH WINS BECAUSE THE OTHER GUY DON'T LIKE RICH PEOPLE, AND HE'S RICH (LAUGHS) YOU KNOW. I'M A, I'M A, A VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN AND I DON'T MIND SAYING THAT TO ANYBODY. I THINK THAT UH WE NEED TO, TO HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT OUR ARMED FORCES CAN RESPECT AND WE NEED A PRESIDENT THAT YOU CAN TELL THE KIDS I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO BE LIKE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT IN 8 YEARS.
YOU DON'T THINK IT'S A VERY CLOSE CALL BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM?
CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL IF PEOPLE VOTE FOR WHAT'S GOOD FOR THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, THEN AL GORE HAS A CHANCE, BUT IF THEY VOTE FOR WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, GEORGE BUSH IS THE MAN.
BUT ISN'T WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY GOOD FOR YOU INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL?
CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
NOT PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW. YOU CAN MAKE LAWS IN THIS COUNTRY FOR JUST A FEW PEOPLE. I MEAN I WORK PRETTY HARD, AND YOU WORK PRETTY HARD, PETER. I WAS POOR AT ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT POOR ANYMORE. I'M NOT ROCKEFELLER, BUT I'M NOT ANGELA BUTZ EITHER YOU KNOW, SO I PAY A LOT OF TAXES AND WHEN THESE MEN SAY HE'S GOING TO GET THAT TAXES TO OTHER PEOPLE, BUT NOT ALL THE AMERICANS, IT BOTHERS ME.
YOU KNOW THAT'S SOCIALISM. YOU HAVE TO GIVE, WHEN YOU GIVE A TAX BREAK, YOU GIVE IT, GIVE IT TO EVERYBODY.
ONE OF YOUR BIGGEST HEROES WAS ABRAHAM LINCOLN AND OBVIOUSLY HE HAD LOTS OF INCREDIBLE QUALITIES AND CHARACTER AND VALUES. WHAT PARTICULAR VALUES, AND WHAT ABOUT HIS CHARACTER MAKES HIM A HERO OF YOURS?
CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL, ABRAHAM LINCOLN, NOT ONLY HIM, BUT JIMMY CARTER IS ONE OF MY HEROES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT. JIMMY CARTER UH BUILT HOMES FOR THE POOR. HE DOESN'T GET PAID. ALWAYS HE MADE PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST BETWEEN EGYPT AND ISRAEL AND I THINK INSTEAD OF THE POLITICIANS TRYING TO DO IT THEMSELVES THEY OUGHT TO SEND JIMMY CARTER OVER THERE RIGHT NOW, AND HE CAN HANDLE THE SITUATION. WELL THE EVERYTHING HE DID. HE, YOU KNOW ABRAHAM LINCOLN WAS KICKED OUT OF HIS HOUSE WHEN HE WAS A KID BECAUSE HE WAS AN UGLY KID. I'VE NEVER SEEN AN UGLY KID.
ALL THE KIDS ARE BEAUTIFUL TO ME, BUT ANYWAY, HE UH HE WAS A `C' STUDENT AND HE JUST BARELY MADE IT IN EVERYTHING THAT, THAT HE DID. YOU KNOW IN SCHOOL, HE, ALL THE KIDS USED TO ACCUSE HIM OF BEING STUPID AND UH HE GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL, THEN HE WENT TO COLLEGE AND HE GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE, STILL A `C' STUDENT AND THEN HE TOLD THE UH THE OTHER GUYS THAT HE WAS GOING TO BECOME A LAWYER SO HE FAILED TWICE, AND THEN HE WENT BACK AND HE, HE GOT THE UH HE PASSED THE LAW SCHOOL, AND THEN HE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE UH THROUGH THE BAR, TO GET THE BAR, YOU KNOW THE KENNEDY KID FAILED THAT 8 TIMES TOO. WELL HE FAILED THAT 8 TIMES, AND HE WENT BACK, HE PERSISTED AND HE BECAME A LAWYER AND THEN HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO BECOME A SENATOR OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THEY TOLD HIM YOU'RE REALLY CRAZY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT SMART ENOUGH AND HE SAYS I'M GOING RUN AND HE RUN AND HE LOST TWICE, AND HE RAN AGAIN, AND THEN HE WON, AND THEN HE SAID NOW I'M GOING TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND UH THE PEOPLE
SAID YOU'RE REALLY CRAZY, AND HE RAN AND HE WON, AND THEN HE GAVE A SPEECH, AND THE NEWSPAPER PEOPLE WROTE IT AS THE WORST SPEECH THAT ANY PRESIDENT HAS EVER GAVE, AND NOW, IT'S REMEMBERED AS THE GREATEST SPEECH THAT ANY PRESIDENT EVER GAVE, PLUS HE SAY UH HE, YOU KNOW, HE FREED THE SLAVES. THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL. HE WAS A BEAUTIFUL PERSON. HE SHOULD BE IN HEAVEN.
WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE A CONSERVATIVE, BUT YOU'RE ALSO VERY COMPASSIONATE, WITH THE WAY THAT YOU FEEL ABOUT LIFE, AND CHILDREN, CHILDREN AND
CHARITY, SOME PEOPLE ARE SURPRISED, DESPITE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE CONSERVATIVE, THAT YOU BELIEVE IN THE DEATH PENALTY. TELL US ABOUT THAT.
CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL, THE DEATH PENALTY DOES NOT PER SAY DETER CRIME, BUT IT GUARANTEES YOU THAT THAT PERSON WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN, AND THAT'S ALL YOU WANT. I BELIEVE THAT THE LAW SHOULD BE THAT UH IF YOU COMMIT RAPE, ESPECIALLY A KID, IF YOU RAPE A KID, THEN YOU SHOULD ASK THE FAMILY OF THAT KID WHAT YOU WANT DONE WITH THAT GUY. OR THAT PERSON, AND I GUARANTEE YOU, THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH CRIME IN THE ISLAMIC COUNTRIES BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF YOU STEAL THEY CUT YOUR HAND OFF. THEY DON'T, IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR HAND CUT OFF, YOU WON'T STEAL. VERY GOOD CHANCE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STEAL. THE NEXT TIME, THEY, I, I, I STUDIED THE ISLAM, UH ISLAM A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I WAS FASCINATED WITH THE RELIGION, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DON'T DRINK, THEY DON'T SMOKE, THEY DON'T BOTHER NOBODY AND THEIR LAWS ARE TREMENDOUS. IF YOU STEAL AGAIN THEY CUT YOUR, YOUR FOOT OFF, THAT WAY YOU HAVE TO BEG, SO NOW THERE'S, YOU DON'T STEAL. NOW THEY, IF YOU STEAL FOR YOUR KIDS, YOU STEAL FOOD OR SOMETHING, THEY FORGIVE YOU, BUT IF YOU HOLD UP SOMEBODY LIKE THAT, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. IF YOU COMMIT ADULTERY, THEY, THEY STONE YOU TO DEATH SO YOU DON'T COMMIT ADULTERY. IF YOU COMMIT RAPE I CAN'T TELL YOU ON TV WHAT THEY DO, BUT THEY DO HANG YOU. THEY LET YOU, THEY LET YOU, LET THE PEOPLE WATCH YOU FOR 48 HOURS, SO YOU DON'T RAPE.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BREAK, WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK, AS WE LEAVE WE'VE GOT A LITTLE POTPOURRI OF SOME OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT YOUR CAREER. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
(Not that) Jutanugarn shares lead with (not that) Ko
LOS ANGELES - A player eager for her first win and a rookie top the leaderboard at the HUGEL-JTBC LA Open. Lurking two shots back is a Hall of Famer.
Winless Moriya Jutanugarn overcame a poor start and birdied the 18th for a hard-earned 1-under 70 to tie rookie Jin Young Ko at 9 under on Saturday at Wilshire Country Club.
Ko shot a 66 in her bid to become the year's first two-time LPGA winner. She won the Women's Australian Open in February, her first victory as an official tour member after a successful run on the Korean LPGA circuit.
''I'm ready for win or top 10, so maybe tomorrow I will really focus on shot by shot,'' said Ko, who added an exclamation point to her golf bag for each of her wins on the KLPGA. ''I won 11 times, so if I win tomorrow, maybe I change to 12. I need more, I need every time motivation.''
Jutanugarn is trying to match younger sister Ariya as a tour champion. Seven-time winner Ariya was tied for 27th after a 72 in the third round.
Usually when one of the Thai sisters is in the lead, the other will watch when her round is finished.
''If she's not too lazy, she is probably going to come out,'' Moriya said about Ariya.
Playing in an all-Korean threesome, Hall of Famer Inbee Park was two shots back in third after a 69. Her birdie putt for a share of the lead on 18 slid just by the hole. The group drew a large contingent of Korean fans.
''I kind of started off a little bad. I was able to come back strong, so I'm really happy with that,'' Park said. ''I left a few putts out there. The greens around this golf course are just really tough. You just don't know what's going to happen.''
Moriya Jutanugarn's round included a double bogey on the par-4 first hole and a bogey on the par-4 sixth. She eagled the par-4 14th after holing out from the fairway 93 feet away. The ball took once bounce and went in, eliciting a stunned look from Jutanugarn before she high-fived her caddie.
''Today was kind of a pretty rough day for me with not a very good start and like trying to come back,'' Jutanugarn said. ''I just try to play my game and be patient out there I think is the key.''
Jutanugarn, the second-round leader, read the break perfectly on a long putt to make birdie on 18 and share the lead with Ko.
Playing two groups ahead of Jutanugarn, Caroline Inglis also eagled the 14th from 180 yards. She briefly jumped up and down and smiled after three bogeys and a double bogey. She shot a 69 and was four shots back in a tie for sixth with Minjee Lee.
''It was like one bounce and then it like trickled in,'' Inglis said.
Aditi Ashok eagled 14 early in the round.
Ko did some scrambling of her own. Her ball found a sandy hazard on the 17th with a scoreboard and a winding creek in between her and the green 190 yards away. Her approach landed just off the green and she made par. Her round included six birdies and a bogey on 16.
Eun-Hee Ji (70) and American Marina Alex (72) were tied for fourth at 6 under.
Top-ranked Shanshan Feng shot a 70 and was in a six-way tie for 12th at 2 under.
Defending champs Singh, Franco take senior lead
RIDGEDALE, Mo. - Defending champions Vijay Singh and Carlos Franco took the third-round lead Saturday in the windy Bass Pro Shops Legends of Golf.
Singh and Franco shot a 7-under 47 in wind gusting to 20 mph on the Top of the Rock par-3 course to get to 19-under 145, a stroke ahead of the teams of David Toms-Steve Flesch and Paul Broadhurst-Kirk Triplett.
''It was a tough day,'' Singh said. ''The wind was swirling, have to get the club right and we made some putts. Carlos played really well on the back nine and I played really well on the front nine, so we ham-and-egged it a little.''
Toms and Flesch also shot 47, and Broadhurst and Triplett had a 33 on the 13-hole Mountain Top par-3 course.
''We just paired well together,'' Toms said. ''I don't think either one of us played great. We picked each other up out there.''
Wind and rain is expected Sunday when the teams finish at Top of the Rock, again playing the front nine in alternate shot and the back nine in better ball.
''Make as many birdies as possible and see what happens,'' Singh said. ''That's all we can do.''
Singh and Franco are trying to become the first to successfully defend a title since Jim Colbert and Andy North in 2001. Singh won the Toshiba Classic in March for his first individual senior title.
Flesch won the Mitsubishi Electric Classic last week in Georgia for his first senior victory.
Tom Lehman and Bernhard Langer had a 34 at Mountain Top to join Spanish stars Miguel Angel Jimenez and Jose Maria Olazabal at 17 under. Jimenez and Olazabal had a 33 at Mountain Top.
''It's great for me to be able to play with him as a team member,'' Olazabal said. ''We do have great memories from the Ryder Cup and other events, and it's always a great pleasure to play with a great player and a friend.''
Langer took the final-round forecast in stride.
''We've done it hundreds of times before and we'll probably do it again,'' Langer said. ''We'll make the best of it. We both have a good attitude. We're known to play in all sorts of weather and I just look forward to playing one more day with my partner here.''
Wisconsin neighbors Steve Stricker and Jerry Kelly were 16 under after a 48 at Top of the Rock.
John Daly and Michael Allen, the second-round leaders after a 46 at Top of the Rock, had a 37 at Mountain Top to drop into a tie for seventh at 15 under.
Landry shares Valero lead, eyes first career win
After coming up just short of a breakthrough win earlier this season, Andrew Landry has another chance to earn his maiden victory at the Valero Texas Open.
Landry came within inches of winning the CareerBuilder Challenge in January, ultimately losing to Jon Rahm in a four-hole playoff. He struggled to find form in the wake of his close call, missing the cut in each of his four starts following his runner-up finish in Palm Springs.
But Landry took some time off to welcome his first child, Brooks, last month and he made it to the weekend in his first start back last week at the RBC Heritage, where he finished T-42. He made a move up the standings Saturday at TPC San Antonio with a bogey-free 67, and at 13 under shares the lead with Zach Johnson heading into the final round.
"I just did everything really good," Landry told reporters. "I was staying patient and just trying to make a bunch of pars. This golf course can come up and bite you in a heartbeat, and I had a couple bad putts that I didn't really make. I'm happy with it, it's a good 5-under round. Gets me in the final group tomorrow and we'll see what happens."
Landry started the day one shot off the pace and in the final group with Johnson and Ryan Moore, and at one point he took sole possession of the lead after birdies on three of his first six holes. Now he'll have another chance in the day's final tee time where he's grouped with Johnson and Trey Mullinax, who sits one shot back after firing a course-record 62 in the third round.
For Landry, it's another opportunity to break into the winner's circle, and it's one for which he feels prepared after coming so close three months ago.
"I mean, I don't want to go too deep into it because I don't want to sound cocky or anything, but I just believe in myself. There's no other explanation for it," Landry said. "You can totally get out here and play with Zach Johnson, Ryan Moore, two top players in the world, and you can go out there and fold under pressure or you can learn a lot.
"Zach's always been a role model to me the way he plays golf, I feel like we have very similar games, and it's just going to be fun tomorrow getting to play with him again."
Z. Johnson, Landry share 54-hole Texas Open lead
SAN ANTONIO - Zach Johnson birdied the par-5 18th Saturday at the Valero Texas Open for a share of the third-round lead with Andrew Landry, a stroke ahead of record-setting Trey Mullinax.
Johnson shot a 4-under 68, holing a 10-footer on 18 to match Landry at 13-under 203 at TPC San Antonio's AT&T Oaks. Landry birdied the 16th and 17th in a 67.
Johnson won the event in 2008 and 2009, the last two times it was played at LaCantera. The 42-year-old Iowan is trying to win for the first time since the 2015 British Open.
''I've got 18 holes to get to that point,'' Johnson said. ''I've got to do exactly what I did on the back side and that was give myself opportunities on every hole. I'm putting great, I'm seeing the lines well, my caddie's reading the greens well, so it's just a matter of committing and executing down the stretch.''
The 30-year-old Landry is winless on the tour.
''I'm a good putter and I just need to give myself a lot of opportunities tomorrow like I did today,'' Landry said. ''I'll be looking forward to tomorrow.''
Mullinax had a course-record 62. He played the back nine in 7-under 29, going 6 under on the last five with eagles on the par-5 14th and 18th and birdies on 16 and 17. He also birdied Nos. 10 and 12 and bogeyed 11.
''It's probably one of the best rounds I've ever had,'' Mullinax said. ''To go out there and shoot 62 on a hard golf course is really good.''
Johnson played the front nine in even par with two birdies and two bogeys. He birdied Nos. 11, 14, 15 and 18 on the back nine.
''Different wind today early on, misjudged some numbers, misjudged some wind, made some bad swings, all of the above,'' Johnson said. ''But truthfully, my short game was actually pretty good, my putting was great. I missed some putts, but I hit some really good ones, hit some lines and I gave myself opportunities especially on the back side.''
Landry had a bogey-free round.
''I just did everything really good,'' Landry said. ''I was staying patient and just trying to make a bunch of pars. This golf course can come up and bite you in a heartbeat.''
Ryan Moore was two strokes back at 11 under after a 70. Sean O'Hair had a 65 to join 2015 champion Jimmy Walker (67), Chris Kirk (68) and 2013 winner Martin Laird (69) at 9 under.
''I just feel like I'm getting closer and closer to playing better and better golf, more solid golf, putting rounds together,'' Walker said. ''I'm excited for the opportunity tomorrow.''
Mullinax has made 42 of 44 putts from inside 10 feet this week.
''They just kind of remind me of greens from home,'' Mullinax said. ''My caddie, David (Flynn), has been reading them really well. We trusted each other on our reads and I've been hitting good putts. Been working hard on putting on the weeks off that I've had so it's good to see some results.''
The 25-year-old former Alabama player chipped in for the eagle on 14 and the birdie on the par-3 16th.
''It was just a little bit down the hill,'' he said about the 16th. ''All you had to do was just land it just past that little light grass spot. My caddie told me just read it like a putt, so I tried to just read it like a putt and it went in.''
On 18, he hit a 3-iron from 255 yards to 15 feet to set up his eagle putt. He broke the course record of 63 set by Matt Every in 201 and matched by Laird in 2013. The tournament record is 60 at LaCantera, by Bart Bryant in 2004 and Johnson in 2009.