Golf Talk Live - Goosen Gossett Transcript Segment 2

By Golf Channel DigitalAugust 14, 2001, 4:00 pm
PETER KESSLER
YOU TOLD PEOPLE THAT YOU WOULDN'T BEGIN TO WIN MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIPS UNTIL YOU WERE IN YOUR 30'S AND THAT YOU WOULD BE A LATE BLOOMER. HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT?

RETIEF GOOSEN
I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY. IF ANYTHING I THINK I FELT LIKE THE GAME WAS THERE BUT THE MENTAL SIDE WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH AND I DIDN'T BELIEVE IN MYSELF AND I WORKED FOR YEARS OF JUST (??), TO TRY AND GET MY MENTAL SIDE STRONGER AND THEN I

SORT OF YOU KNOW STARTED FEELING THAT MAYBE I COULD WIN. WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY COMES AROUND TO WIN A TOURNAMENT I, YOU KNOW I NORMALLY TRY AND TAKE IT.

PETER KESSLER
LAST WEEK WE WERE IN A SOCIAL SITUATION WITH OUR MUTUAL FRIEND, PGA TOUR WINNER AND YOUR FELLOW COUNTRY MAN, FULTON ALLEM AND FULTON IN A NICE WAY TRIED TO PICK A

FIGHT WITH YOU ABOUT QUALITY OF FIELDS, ABOUT YOUR GOLF SWING, ABOUT ALL KINDS OF THINGS AND YOUR RESTING PULSE STATED TEN, YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE DIDN'T GO UP AT ALL AND ALL YOU DID WAS LOOK AT HIM JUST LIKE YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME NOW. DO YOU EVER GET MAD?

RETIEF GOOSEN
OH YEAH I GET MAD. I'M UP AND DOWN. I'M SURE MY WIFE KNOWS ABOUT IT, BUT, AND I KNOW FULTY'S WAY OF TEASING PEOPLE AND I KNOW HIM FOR A LONG TIME, EVEN WHEN I WAS AN AMATEUR, YOU KNOW, I ,

I ACTUALLY FOLLOWED HIM AROUND A GOLF COURSE AS AN AMATEUR TO WATCH HOW HE PLAYED AND WISH I WONDER I CAN PLAY LIKE HIM, AND, HE WAS SORT OF AN IDOL IN MY TIME, YOUNG DAYS AS WELL WATCHING FULTON PLAY AND

I WAS HAVING AND I WAS HAVING A GAME WITH YOU GUYS SO I WON'T PLAY YOU FOR A LIVING THOUGH, BUT, YOU PLAYED VERY WELL THAT DAY BUT HEY, HE'S A GREAT GUY AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE MY UP AND DOWNS ON A COURSE BUT I'M WORKING ON IT TO GET RID OF IT.

PETER KESSLER
WELL WE'VE SEEN NONE OF THOSE BUT EVEN YOU HAD TO, WHO KEEPS IT PRETTY WELL HIDDEN, HAD TO FEEL A LOT OF DIFFERENT EMOTIONS ON THIS 72ND HOLE

OF THE U.S. OPEN. AS WE TAKE A LOOK AT MOST OF THE PLAY ON THAT HOLE, LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE FEELING AND WHAT YOU WERE THINKING, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE

A LOOK AT SOME OF THE KEY MOMENTS OF THE 72ND HOLE OF THE U.S. OPEN WHERE AT THIS POINT A PAR WINS THE GOLF TOURNAMENT.

RETIEF GOOSEN
YEAH I COULDN'T HIT A BETTER DRIVE DOWN THERE AND I JUST HIT A 6 IRON IN AND

PETER KESSLER
DO YOU PUSH THAT A LITTLE, THE 6 IRON?

RETIEF GOOSEN
YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO HIT IT TWO YARDS LEFT OF THE HOLE. I ENDED UP HITTING IT A YARD RIGHT OF THE HOLE, SO, YEAH IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN A BETTER SHOT, I SUPPOSE. STEWART CINK PULLED HIS SHOT AND FROM THERE'S A TOUGH CHIP AND THAT GREEN BEING SO SLOW, HE

OBVIOUSLY THOUGHT IT WOULD RUN DOWN THE HILL A LOT MORE AND, HIT A GREAT PUTT, IT JUST TURNED LEFT AND ON HIM IN FRONT OF THE HOLE. HE PROBABLY THOUGHT HE MADE IT BUT

THE HOLE WAS CUT ON A DOUBLE
. PUTT THERE, IT FIRST TURNS, FROM WHERE I WAS PUTTING TO THE LEFT AND THEN TO THE RIGHT.

PETER KESSLER
NOW WHEN HE HIT THIS, LET ME GET OUT OF YOUR WAY PUTT AND, SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND KNOCK YOUR PUTT IN OR TWO PUTT AND BECOME THE OPEN CHAMPION, ARE YOU HAVING ANY PARTICULAR THOUGHTS?

RETIEF GOOSEN
WELL, I SUPPOSE I WAS A BIT SHOCKED FOR HIM MISSING IT.

PETER KESSLER
WERE YOU EVEN PAYING ATTENTION?

RETIEF GOOSEN
THIS PUTT GOES STRAIGHT UP THE HILL AND THAT GREEN BEING SO SLOW LIKE I SAID I JUST HIT IT TOO HARD AND

PETER KESSLER
NOW ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE IT OR JUST PUT IT ON, JUST UP TO THE LIP OR

WHAT WAS THE THOUGHT?

RETIEF GOOSEN
I WAS TRYING TO ROLL IT JUST CLOSE, SO I JUST OVER RUN IT AND I WS JUST TRYING TO HIT IT OFF CENTER RIGHT COMING IN AND IT WENT RIGHT ON ME AND LIPPED OUT. I WAS UPSET. I COULDN'T BELIEVE

WHAT HAPPENED THERE, AND SO COULD EVERY, EVERYBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW, BUT THE TOUGH PUTT WAS REALLY THE PUTT COMING BACK. THAT'S JUST THE PUTT STEWART JUST MISSED AND WELL I HIT A GOOD PUTT HERE, IT WAS JUST THE INSIDE LEFT PUTT AND WENT RIGHT IN, BUT, YOU KNOW IT'S A SHAME THAT ALL

THREE OF US HAD TO THREE PUTT ON THAT LAST HOLE. STEWART, MYSELF AND MARK AND I PLAYED WITH MARK BROOKS ON A SATURDAY IN THE THIRD ROUND SO I SORT OF KNEW HIS GAME A LITTLE BIT SO , I WAS UPSET, YOU KNOW, WALKING BACK

UP TO THE CLUBHOUSE I THOUGHT THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A FUNERAL GOING ON THERE. EVERYBODY WITH THEIR RED EYES, YOU KNOW.

PETER KESSLER
THAT'S BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAD TO CHANGE THEIR PLANE RESERVATIONS TILL THE NEXT DAY BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS WORKING.

RETIEF GOOSEN
YEAH, I, I KNOW, I'M, GOD I MADE A LOT OF PEOPLE CROSS, BUT, AND THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE WORSE OFF IN THIS LIFE THAN ME, SO, IT WASN'T THE END OF THE WORLD.

PETER KESSLER
HOW TOUGH WERE YOU, IF YOU WERE TOUGH ON YOURSELF THAT SUNDAY NIGHT AS YOU GOT READY TO GO TO SLEEP KNOWING YOU HAD A CHANCE TO STILL WIN THE U.S. OPEN THE NEXT DAY IN AN 18 HOLE PLAYOFF?

RETIEF GOOSEN
YEAH I GOT BACK ABOUT QUARTER PAST NINE TO THE HOTEL AFTER ALL THE PRESS INTERVIEWS AND SO ON, BUT, I FELT FINE. JOSH (?) CAME INTO MY MIND AND HE JUST

ASKED ME HOW DO I FEEL. I SAID I FEEL GREAT. IT'S NOTHING TO BE UPSET ABOUT. I PLAYED WELL FOR 71 HOLES AND 71 AND A HALF HOLES AND JUST LET MY FIRST THREE PUTT OR SECOND THREE PUTT AT A TOURNAMENT, SO IT WAS

IT WAS DISAPPOINTING NOT TO PULL IT OFF THERE BUT I FELT CONFIDENT THE NEXT DAY THAT, IF I KEEP MY GAME UP THE WAY I'VE BEEN PLAYING I'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE OF WINNING. JUST

HAD SOME ROOM SERVICE AND WENT TO
SLEEP AT 11:00 AND GOT UP SOMEWHERE AROUND 8:00 IN THE MORNING AND HAD A NICE
FAST AND WAS AT THE COURSE QUITE EARLY.

PETER KESSLER
SO WHEN WE COME BACK FROM THIS LITTLE
, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE GOOD THINGS THAT HAPPENED AND AFTER
FAST, AND AFTER YOU GOT TO THE GOLF COURSE AND PUT THE BALL IN THE AIR AND WE'LL DO THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.

AS WE LEAVE YOU FOR JUST A SECOND, A LITTLE INFORMATION ON A GRAPHIC FOR YOU. SOME FACTS ABOUT THE GOOSE:

(WRITTEN TEXT)
-WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS OF FRANCE, SCOTLAND, SOUTH AFRICA AND THE UNITED STATES.
- WON 10 CONSECUTIVE MATCHES IN THE DUNHILL CUP DURING SOUTH AFRICA'S BACK-TO-BACK WINS IN 1997 AND 1998.
- 2-0-0 IN FOUR-BALL COMPETITION AT 2000 PRESIDENT'S CUP.

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Woods needs top-10 at Open to qualify for WGC

By Will GrayJuly 16, 2018, 4:34 pm

If Tiger Woods is going to qualify for the final WGC-Bridgestone Invitational at Firestone Country Club, he'll need to do something he hasn't done in five years this week at The Open.

Woods has won eight times at Firestone, including his most recent PGA Tour victory in 2013, and has openly stated that he would like to qualify for the no-cut event in Akron before it shifts to Memphis next year. But in order to do so, Woods will need to move into the top 50 in the Official World Golf Ranking after this week's event at Carnoustie.

Woods is currently ranked No. 71 in the world, down two spots from last week, and based on projections it means that he'll need to finish no worse than a tie for eighth to have a chance of cracking the top 50. Woods' last top-10 finish at a major came at the 2013 Open at Muirfield, where he tied for sixth.


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There are actually two OWGR cutoffs for the Bridgestone, July 23 and July 30. That means that Woods could theoretically still add a start at next week's RBC Canadian Open to chase a spot in the top 50, but he has said on multiple occasions that this week will be his last start of the month. The WGC-Bridgestone Invitational will be played Aug. 2-5.

There wasn't much movement in the world rankings last week, with the top 10 staying the same heading into the season's third major. Dustin Johnson remains world No. 1, followed by Justin Thomas, Justin Rose, Brooks Koepka and Jon Rahm. Defending Open champ Jordan Spieth is ranked sixth, with Rickie Fowler, Rory McIlroy, Jason Day and Tommy Fleetwood rounding out the top 10.

Despite taking the week off, Sweden's Alex Noren moved up three spots from No. 14 to No. 11, passing Patrick Reed, Bubba Watson and Paul Casey.

John Deere Classic champ Michael Kim went from No. 473 to No. 215 in the latest rankings, while South African Brandon Stone jumped from 371st to 110th with his win at the Scottish Open.

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Spieth takes familiar break ahead of Open defense

By Rex HoggardJuly 16, 2018, 3:50 pm

CARNOUSTIE, Scotland – As his title chances seemed to be slipping away during the final round of last year’s Open Championship, Jordan Spieth’s caddie took a moment to remind him who he was.

Following a bogey at No. 13, Michael Greller referenced a recent vacation he’d taken to Mexico where he’d spent time with Michael Phelps and Michael Jordan and why he deserved to be among that group of singular athletes.

Spieth, who won last year’s Open, decided to continue the tradition, spending time in Cabo again before this week’s championship.


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“I kind of went through the same schedule,” Spieth said on Monday at Carnoustie. “It was nice to have a little vacation.”

Spieth hasn’t played since the Travelers Championship; instead he attended the Special Olympics USA Games earlier this month in Seattle with his sister. It was Spieth’s first time back to the Pacific Northwest since he won the 2015 U.S. Open.

“I went out to Chambers Bay with [Greller],” Spieth said. “We kind of walked down the 18th hole. It was cool reliving those memories.”

But most of all Spieth said he needed a break after a particularly tough season.

“I had the itch to get back to it after a couple weeks of not really working,” he said. “It was nice to kind of have that itch to get back.”

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Harrington: Fiery Carnoustie evokes Hoylake in '06

By Ryan LavnerJuly 16, 2018, 3:45 pm

CARNOUSTIE, Scotland – One course came to mind when Padraig Harrington arrived on property and saw a firm, fast and yellow Carnoustie.

Hoylake in 2006.

That's when Tiger Woods avoided every bunker, bludgeoned the links with mid-irons and captured the last of his three Open titles.

So Harrington was asked: Given the similarity in firmness between Carnoustie and Hoylake, can Tiger stir the ghosts this week?


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“I really don’t know,” Harrington said Monday. “He’s good enough to win this championship, no doubt about it. I don’t think he could play golf like the way he did in 2006. Nobody else could have tried to play the golf course the way he did, and nobody else could have played the way he did. I suspect he couldn’t play that way now, either. But I don’t know if that’s the strategy this week, to lay up that far back.”

With three days until the start of this championship, that’s the biggest question mark for Harrington, the 2007 winner here. He doesn’t know what his strategy will be – but his game plan will need to be “fluid.” Do you attack the course with driver and try to fly the fairway bunkers? Or do you attempt to lay back with an iron, even though it’s difficult to control the amount of run-out on the baked-out fairways and bring the bunkers into play?

“The fairways at Hoylake are quite flat, even though they were very fast,” Harrington said. “There’s a lot of undulations in the fairways here, so if you are trying to lay up, you can get hit the back of a slope and kick forward an extra 20 or 30 yards more than you think. So it’s not as easy to eliminate all the risk by laying up.”

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How will players game-plan for Carnoustie?

By Rex HoggardJuly 16, 2018, 3:31 pm

CARNOUSTIE, Scotland – Justin Thomas took a familiar slash with his driver on the 18th tee on Monday at Carnoustie and watched anxiously as his golf ball bounced and bounded down the fairway.

Unlike the two previous editions of The Open, at what is widely considered the rota’s most demanding test, a particularly warm and dry summer has left Carnoustie a parched shade of yellow and players like Thomas searching for answers.

Under the best circumstances, Carnoustie is every bit the unforgiving participant. But this week promises to be something altogether different, with players already dumbfounded by how far the ball is chasing down fairways and over greens.

Brown is beautiful here at Royal Dark & Dusty.

But then it’s also proving to be something of a unique test.

Where most practice rounds at The Open are spent trying to figure out what lines are best off tees, this is more a study of lesser evils.

Tee shots, like at the par-4 17th hole, ask multiple questions with few answers. On his first attempt, Thomas hit 2-iron off the tee at No. 17. It cleared the Barry Burn and bounded down the middle of the fairway. Perfect, right? Not this year at Carnoustie, as Thomas’ tee shot kept rolling until it reached the same burn, which twists and turns through both the 17th and 18th fairways, at a farther intersection.


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“A hole like 17 in this wind, the trick is getting a club that will carry [the burn],” said Thomas, who played 18 holes on Monday with Tiger Woods. “If that hole gets downwind you can have a hard time carrying the burn and keeping it short of the other burn. It’s pretty bizarre.”

The sixth hole can offer a similar dilemma, with players needing to carry their tee shots 275 yards to avoid a pair of pot bunkers down the right side of the fairway. Yet just 26 yards past those pitfalls looms a second set of bunkers. Even for the game’s best, trying to weave a fairway wood or long-iron into a 26-yard window can be challenging.

“Six is a really hard hole, it really just depends on how you want to play it. If you want to take everything on and have a chance of hitting an iron into a par 5, or just kind of lay back and play it as a three-shot hole,” Thomas shrugged.

It’s difficult to quantify precisely how short the 7,400-yard layout is playing. It’s not so far players are flying the ball in the air, particularly with relatively little wind in the forecast the rest of the week, so much as it is a question of how a particular shot will run out after it’s made contact with the firm turf.

As the field began to get their first taste of the bouncy fun, one of the earliest indications something was askew came on Sunday when Padraig Harrington, who won The Open the last time it was played at Carnoustie in 2007, announced to the social world that he’d hit into the burn on the 18th hole.

“This time it was the one at the green, 457 yards away,” the Irishman tweeted. “The fairways are a tad fast.”

Most players have already resigned themselves to a steady diet of mid-irons off tees this week in an attempt to at least partially control the amount of run-out each shot will have.

Jordan Spieth, the defending champion, hadn’t played a practice round prior to his media session, but could tell what’s in store just from his abbreviated range session on Monday. “Extremely baked out,” he said.

The conditions have already led Spieth and his caddie, Micheal Greller, to conjure up a tentative game plan.

“You might wear out your 5- and 4-irons off the tee instead of hitting 3- or 2-irons like you’re used to,” Greller told him.

But even that might not be the answer, as Tommy Fleetwood discovered on Sunday during a practice round. Fleetwood has a unique connection with Carnoustie having shot the course record (63) during last year’s Dunhill Links Championship.

The Englishman doesn’t expect his record to be in danger this week.

In fact, he explained the dramatically different conditions were evident on the third hole on Sunday.

“There’s holes that have been nothing tee shots, like the third. If you play that in the middle of September or October [when the Dunhill is played] and it’s green and soft, you could just hit a mid-iron down the fairway and knock it on with a wedge,” Fleetwood said. “Yesterday it was playing so firm, the fairways really undulate and you have bunkers on either side, it’s actually all of a sudden a tough tee shot.”

The alternative to the iron game plan off the tee would be to simply hit driver, an option at least one long-hitter is considering this week if his practice round was any indication.

On Sunday, Jon Rahm played aggressively off each tee, taking the ubiquitous fairway bunkers out of play but at the same time tempting fate with each fairway ringed by fescue rough, which is relatively tame given the dry conditions. But even that option has consequences.

“It’s kind of strange where there’s not really a number that you know you’re going to be short,” said Fleetwood, who played his Sunday practice round with Rahm. “[Rahm] hit a drive on 15 that was like 400 yards. You just can’t account for that kind of stuff.”

Whatever tactic players choose, this Open Championship promises to be a much different test than what players have become accustomed to at Carnoustie.