Golf Talk Live - Janice Moodie Transcript Segment 3
THERE WAS SOME CHAT THAT EARLIER IN THE CALENDAR YEAR THAT, THERE WAS EITHER A MISUNDERSTANDING OR A MISCOMMUNICATION BETWEEN YOU AND DALE REID AND THAT THERE WAS A SENSE IN YOUR HEAD, MAYBE, THAT YOU MIGHT NOT GET PICKED FOR THE TEAM, BUT NOT FOR THE RIGHT REASONS.
UM YEAH YOU KNOW, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WITH US, OR WITH ME, BEING HERE AND, AND MAKING THE LPGA REALLY MY HOME TOUR, I MEAN THEIR VIEW (??) ON TOUR IS DEFINITELY PART OF MY LIFE AND, AND (??) YOU KNOW WHERE I LIKE BEING AS WELL, AND I ENJOY GOING BACK HOME BUT LIFE AND MY CAREER IS DEFINITELY OUT HERE AND, AND I THINK SHE JUST WANTS TO KNOW, DOES SHE REALLY WANT TO PLAY FOR EUROPE?
I MEAN WHAT'S, WHAT'S HER STANCE, AND IT WAS KIND OF MISCOMMUNICATED BASICALLY BECAUSE WE NEVER REALLY GOT TO SEE ONE ANOTHER OR TALK TO ONE ANOTHER AND SHE WAS OVER THERE AND I WAS OVER HERE AND, IT WAS, IT WAS JUST, WE GOT OFF ON THE WRONG FOOT.
AND EVENTUALLY GOT BACK ON THE RIGHT ONE.
HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?
UM, YOU KNOW I, I WAS AT THE EVIAN TOURNAMENT AND WE KIND OF GOT OFF ON THE WRONG FOOT AND I COULD, I COULD SENSE THAT, AND THAT WAS AT THE, LUCKILY IT WAS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK AND I SAID DALE, CAN I HAVE A WORD WITH YOU? AND I JUST SAID, LOOK, I WANT TO PLAY, I WANT TO BE ON THAT TEAM.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY ELSE SAYS OR THINKS OR YOU KNOW BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY SHE'S GETTING INPUT FROM OTHER PLAYERS AND STUFF AND I'M LIKE I WANT TO BE ON THAT TEAM, SO, I, I THINK THAT HELPED OUT AND I, I THINK MY VICTORY HELPED AS WELL.
I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT SO.
THE ICING ON THE CAKE (LAUGHS).
ANNIKA, FROM REALLY '95, WHEN SHE WON HER FIRST OF TWO CONSECUTIVE U.S. WOMEN'S OPENS, THROUGH THE END OF '98 WAS THE BEST FEMALE PLAYER IN THE WORLD AND FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS KARIE WEBB HAS CLEARLY BEEN NUMBER ONE. HOW DO YOU THINK ANNIKA'S HANDLED THAT ADJUSTMENT OF NOT BEING NUMBER ONE, AS CLOSE AS SHE STILL IS TO KARIE?
I MEAN I THINK VERY WELL. I MEAN I, I DON'T KNOW ANNIKA TOO WELL. OBVIOUSLY I GOT TO KNOW HER REALLY WELL DURING THE SOLHEIM CUP BUT SHE'S AS COMPETITIVE AS COMPETITIVE CAN BE.
I MEAN SHE'S JUST A GREAT PLAYER AND YOU KNOW, MY GOOD FRIEND, YEAH AND, AND, AND I THINK SHE HANDLES EVERYTHING WELL. I THINK, YOU KNOW, SHE'S, SHE'S GONE THROUGH, PROBABLY FOUR, FOUR YEARS OF JUST BEING NUMBER ONE AND BEING LIKE A MACHINE AND, AND NOW STARTING TO ENJOY A LITTLE BIT OF LIFE. I MEAN WE WERE LAUGHING AND JOKING OUT THERE. WE HAD SOME JOKES GOING.
LET'S CHECK IN WITH WILLIAM, WHO'S CALLING FROM NEVADA. WILLIAM, SO AHEAD AND ASK YOUR QUESTION, SIR.
WILLIAM, CALLER FROM NEVADA
YES JANICE, UH PETER, THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL.
WILLIAM, CALLER FROM NEVADA
WAS YOUR KNOWLEDGE, OR, BEING A MEMBER OF LOCH LOMOND, WAS YOU KNOWLEDGE OF THE COURSE INSTRUMENTAL IN YOUR EUROPEAN WIN?
I, I MEAN I THINK SO. I MEAN, LOCH LOMOND HAS, HAS BEEN GREAT. WILD (??) ANDERSON'S BEEN GREAT TO ME AND BEEN VERY, VERY WELCOMING. IT'S, IT'S A VERY EXCLUSIVE GOLF COURSE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU DON'T PLAY THERE AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THE TIME. IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY A SECONDARY CLUB AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE A COUPLE OF FRIENDS THAT ARE FROM SCOTLAND AND, YOU KNOW, THEY EVEN ONLY PLAY IT MAYBE TEN TIMES OUT OF THE YEAR, SO, WHENEVER I GO BACK I PLAY. I LOVE IT, AND, IT'S IN FANTASTIC SHAPE FOR A SCOTTISH GOLF COURSE, ESPECIALLY INLAND.
WHAT DO YOU SUPPOSE THE GREAT SUCCESS THAT HELEN AFREDSSON AND KATRIN NIELSMARK, TWO VETERANS WHO ENJOYED GREAT SOLHEIM CUPS, WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS WILL MEAN TO THEIR CAREER TO SORT OF JUMP START IT ALL OVER AGAIN?
OH I MEAN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE TWO OF THEM, AND, AND HELEN EVEN CAME UP TO ME, SHE'S LIKE `YOU KNOW WHAT. I KNOW YOU DIDN'T THINK I SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THAT TEAM BUT YOU KNOW' AND I'M LIKE `PHH' ( 26:33) YOU PROVED YOURSELF, DEFINITELY.
SHE WAS A FANTASTIC PART OF THAT TEAM, HELEN. SHE JUST HAS SPIRIT AND THAT'S WHAT DALE SAW AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THE TEAM NEEDED AND KATRIN KNOWS MARK (???) UH! SHE'S UNBELIEVABLE. WE WERE SINGING SONGS ON THE BUS FROM LIKE, WE HAD A 15 MINUTE RIDE AND I DO NOT EVEN WANT TO GO INTO THE SONG, BUT IT WAS HILARIOUS, IT WAS GOING ON A WILD WEST TRIP, YOU KNOW, TO A ZOO, SO, THAT'S AS FAR AS I'M GOING. SHE WAS, SHE'S A CHARACTER. DEFINITELY TWO GREAT PEOPLE TO GET TEAM SPIRIT GOING.
YOU AND KATRIN AND CARIN KOCH ALL HAD THREE POINTS FOR YOUR TEAM. CARIN'S RIGHT ON THE VERGE OF INTERNATIONAL STARDOM. IS THIS THE SORT OF BOOST SHE NEEDED TO PUT HER OVER THE EDGE OF THAT?
I THINK SO, I MEAN SHE WON IN EUROPE, YOU KNOW, SHE'LL WIN IN, IN THE LPGA. SHE'S A GREAT PLAYER AND JUST A GREAT COMPETITOR, YOU KNOW, SHE, SHE, I THINK, SHE'S ALSO MELLOWED OUT SINCE SHE HAD HER CHILD, OLIVER, YOU KNOW, HE TRAVELS AROUND AND KIND OF TAKES HER AWAY FROM THAT SERIOUS EDGE,
YOU KNOW, THAT SHE USED TO HAVE ON THE GOLF COURSE. I PLAYED WITH HER WHEN I WAS AN AMATEUR, ACTUALLY. SHE PROBABLY DOESN'T EVEN REMEMBER AND, A COUPLE OF CLUBS WERE BEING BANGED ON THE GOLF COURSE AND NOW SHE'S JUST REAL CALM AND JUST A SOLID, SOLID PLAYER AND YOU KNOW, OLIVER'S JUST FANTASTIC.
DO YOU THINK PEOPLE HAVE A STRONG ENOUGH SENSE OF APPRECIATION FOR THE WORK THAT YOUR CAPTAIN, DALE REID, OF WHO WE DON'T KNOW TOO MUCH IN THIS COUNTRY DID FOR HER TEAM, IN TERMS OF, SHE WAS CRITICIZED FOR SOME OF THE SELECTIONS THAT SHE MADE AND THE ALL TURNED OUT TO BE RIGHT IN THE END, EVEN IF SOME DESERVING PEOPLE DIDN'T GET ON THE TEAM
AND OF COURSE SHE FIGURED OUT THE INDIVIDUAL CHEMISTRIES THAT WOULD WORK BEST IN PARTNERSHIPS. SHE DESERVES AN AWFUL LOT OF CREDIT DOESN'T SHE?
SHE DOES. SHE WAS FANTASTIC, YOU KNOW, I MEAN SHE TOOK A, A BIG RIBBING, YOU KNOW, I MEAN WE GO THERE AND THE PRESS, THE FIRST THING THEY WANT TO DO IS SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'VE LOST, YOU KNOW AND, AND THE FIRST THING THEY SAY IS ALL LADBROOKS HAVE HERE, LIKE TWENTY-FIVE TO ONE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND WINNING THIS THING, AND I SAID I DON'T CARE. I SAID WE'RE HERE TO WIN AND SHE JUST, SHE JUST INSPIRED US.
SHE WAS BASICALLY A PLAYER THAT'S BEEN THERE, DONE IT, BEEN ON A SOLHEIM CUP AND IT'S, I THINKS IT'S THE FIRST EUROPEAN TEAM TO ACTUALLY HAVE THAT, OR HAVE HER AS A CAPTAIN, YOU KNOW, BEING THERE, DONE IT, AND, AND SHE KNEW WHAT THE PLAYERS NEEDS WERE, WHICH I THINK WAS KEY.
WHEN WE COME BACK I WANT TO ASK YOU TO SHOW US YOUR GOLF SWING AND WHAT THE KEY TO THE EFFICIENCY AND SIMPLICITY OF YOUR GOLF SWING ARE, PARTICULARLY SO THAT OUR VIEWERS AT HOME WHO ARE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING THE BALL UP IN THE AIR CAN PERHAPS LEARN A LITTLE SOMETHING, SO, WE'LL COME BACK AND, AND WE WILL GO ON TO OUR ACADEMY LIVE SET AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THE GOLF SWING OF JANICE MOODIE. DON'T GO AWAY.
Miller's biggest on-air regret: Leonard at Ryder Cup
Johnny Miller made a broadcasting career out of being brutally honest, calling golf tournaments exactly like he saw them.
His unfiltered style is what kept him on the air for nearly 30 years, but it wasn't always the most popular with players.
After announcing his upcoming retirement, Miller was asked Tuesday if there were any on-air comments he regretted over the last three decades. One immediately came to mind.
"I think that I didn't say the right words about Justin Leonard at Miracle at Brookline about he should be home watching it on TV. I meant really - I did say he should be home, but I meant the motel room. Even then I probably shouldn't have said that," Miller recalled. "I want so much for the outcome that I'm hoping for that I actually get overwhelmed with what I want to see. Almost the kind of things you would say to your buddies if you were watching it on TV, you know? He just couldn't win a match."
After struggling on Friday and Saturday in team play, Leonard ended up the U.S. hero after halving his Sunday singles match with José María Olazábal by holing a 40-foot birdie putt on the 17th hole - one of the most famous shots in Ryder Cup history.
"Of course he ended up - after the crappy comment I made that motivated maybe the team supposedly in the locker room, and he ends up making that 45-, 50- foot putt to seal the deal," Miller said. "Almost like a Hollywood movie or something."
Not only did the putt seal the comeback for the U.S., but it also earned Leonard an apology from Miller.
"I apologized to him literally the next day; I happened to see him. I tried to make a policy when I go over the line that I get ahold of the guy within 24 hours and tell him I made a double bogey, you know. That's just the way I have done it through the years."
Love him or not, Miller's authentic style stood out
The comment was vintage Johnny Miller, raw enough to cause most television producers to wince.
Miller was in the NBC Sports booth at Doral in 2004 when he watched Craig Parry hit another beautiful shot to the green. Miller said what he saw. That was his job.
He just didn't say it like other golf analysts.
''The last time you see that swing is in a pro-am with a guy who's about a 15-handicap,'' Miller said. ''It's just over the top, cups it at the bottom and hits it unbelievably good. It doesn't look ... if Ben Hogan saw that, he'd puke.''
Parry got the last word, of course, holing out a 6-iron from 176 yards in a playoff to win.
Except that wasn't the last word.
''I was in Ponte Vedra going back to the Honda Classic, and my phone is blowing up,'' said Tommy Roy, the longtime golf producer at NBC. ''It started percolating down in Australia, and you had radio stations demanding Johnny Miller be fired.''
Miller could make golf more fun to hear than to watch.
''He doesn't have a filter. That's why he's so good,'' Roy said. ''What he's thinking comes out. And 99.5 percent of the time, that was a great thing for viewers, and for me. And 0.5 percent of the time, it was a problem for our PR department and for me.
''And it was worth it.''
Roy was in Wisconsin on Monday night for his first look at Whistling Straits for the 2020 Ryder Cup. It will be the first Ryder Cup since 1989 that doesn't have Miller in the booth weighing in on good shots and bad with thoughts that immediately become words.
He often entertained. He occasionally irritated. He was rarely dull.
Miller is retiring after three decades calling the shots for NBC. His last tournament will be the Phoenix Open, the perfect exit for a Hall of Fame player once known as the ''Desert Fox'' for winning six times in Arizona. Miller was so good for so long that it was easy for younger generations to forget about that other career he had.
And to think that was nearly his only career in golf.
Miller said he wasn't interested when NBC first approached him, but then his wife stepped in and told him it would be nice to have a steady paycheck. Even then, it took time for him to realize his audience was in the living room, not the locker room.
He made his debut at the Bob Hope Classic in 1990 and it didn't take long for him to leave his mark. Peter Jacobsen faced an awkward lie to the 18th green with water to the left.
''The easiest shot to choke on,'' Miller said.
People thought about choking. Miller said it because that's what he was thinking.
''What came into his brain came out of his mouth,'' said Mike McCarley, president of golf for NBC Sports. ''He was the first to really talk about the pressure. It's the most important element of the game, especially in those really big moments. He was doing it at a time when others weren't.''
It wasn't just the word ''choke.''
Phil Mickelson was getting up-and-down from everywhere at the 2010 Ryder Cup when Miller suggested that if Lefty weren't such a good putter he'd be selling cars in San Diego. Justin Leonard and Hal Sutton were losing a fourballs match at the 1999 Ryder Cup when Miller blurted out, ''My hunch is that Justin needs to go home and watch it on television.''
During the 2008 U.S. Open playoff at Torrey Pines that Tiger Woods won in 19 holes over Rocco Mediate, Miller suggested that guys named ''Rocco'' don't get their name on the trophy, and that Mediate looked like ''the guy who cleans Tiger's swimming pool.''
It wasn't all bad.
Roy, who also has produced NBA Finals and Olympics, said he wants analysts who first-guess, not second-guess. The latter is for talk radio. First-guessing means sharing instincts, and Miller had plenty of them.
Woods was playing the final hole at Newport in the 1995 U.S. Amateur when Miller said, ''It wouldn't surprise me if he knocked this thing a foot from the hole.''
And that's just what Woods did.
McCarley remembers how retired NBC Sports chairman Dick Ebersol used to worry whenever Miller called because he thought it was about retirement. McCarley soon inherited that feeling.
''Every time I'd see Johnny's number pop up on my cellphone, my heart would skip a beat,'' McCarley said. ''Two years ago, he made that call I had been dreading.''
McCarley kept him working a slightly reduced schedule, but no longer. Miller is 71 and has been on the road for 50 years. His 24th grandchild was born on Sunday. He wants to teach them fly fishing in Utah, perhaps even a little golf.
Miller wasn't sure he would last a week when he started. He never imagined going nearly 30 years.
He leaves behind a style all his own.
Most loved it. Some didn't. But everyone listened, and that might be his legacy in the broadcast booth. Roy said what he has heard from viewers he knows is that 70 percent really like Miller, and 30 percent really don't.
''But they all have an opinion,'' he said.
CJ Cup: Tee times, TV schedule, stats
The PGA Tour returns to South Korea this week for the second edition of the CJ Cup at Nine Bridges. Here is the key information for the no-cut event, where Justin Thomas is defending champion.
Golf course: Located on Jeju Island, the largest island off the coast of the Korean Peninsula, The Club at Nine Bridges opened in 2001 and was designed by Ronald Fream and David Dale. The par-72 layout (36-36) will measure 7,184 yards for this week's event, 12 yards shorter than last year.
Purse: The total purse is $9.5 million with the winner receiving $1.71 million. In addition, the winner will receive 500 FedExCup points, a two-year exemption on the PGA Tour, and invitations to the 2019 Sentry Tournament of Champions, Players, Masters, and PGA Championship.
Last year: Thomas defeated Marc Leishman with a birdie on the second playoff hole to earn his seventh career PGA Tour win.
TV schedule (all times Eastern): Golf Channel, Wednesday-Saturday, 10 p.m.-2 a.m.
Live streaming: Wednesday-Saturday, 10 p.m.-2 a.m.
Notable tee times (all times Eastern): 7:15 p.m. Wednesday, 8:15 p.m. Thursday: Justin Thomas, Brooks Koepka, Sungjae Im; 8:15 p.m. Wednesday, 7:05 p.m. Thursday: Marc Leishman, Si Woo Kim, Ernie Els; 8:25 p.m. Wednesday, 7:15 p.m. Thursday: Jason Day, Adam Scott, Hideki Matsuyama
Notables in the field: Justin Thomas, Brooks Koepka, Ernie Els, Jason Day, Adam Scott, Hideki Matsuyama, Ian Poulter, Graeme McDowell and last week's winner Marc Leishman.
• This is the third of 46 official events of the season and the second of three consecutive weeks of events in Asia
• 78-player field including the top 60 available from the final 2017-2018 FedExCup points list
• The field also includes 12 major champions and two of the top five in the Official World Golf Ranking (highest ranked are No. 3 Koepka and No. 4 Thomas)
• Thomas and Koepka both have a shot to ascend to No. 1 in the OWGR this week - they will play their first two rounds grouped together
Stats and information provided by the Golf Channel editorial research unit
Els eyeing potential Prez Cup players at CJ Cup
Ernie Els is teeing it up this week in South Korea as a player, but he's also retaining the perspective of a captain.
While the 2019 Presidents Cup in Australia is still more than a year away, Els has already begun the process of keeping tabs on potential players who could factor on his International squad that will face an American contingent captained by Tiger Woods. Els played in last week's CIMB Classic in Malaysia, and this week received one of eight sponsor exemptions into the limited-field CJ Cup on Jeju Island.
Els played a Tuesday practice round with Presidents Cup veteran and Branden Grace and India's Shubankhar Sharma, who held a share of the 54-hole lead last week in Malaysia.
"It's going to be a very diverse team the way things are shaping up already," Els told reporters. "We've got another year to go, so we're going to have an interesting new group of players that's going to probably make the team."
In addition to keeping tabs on Grace and Sharma, Els will play the first two rounds with Australia's Marc Leishman and South Korea's Si Woo Kim. Then there's Sungjae Im, a native of Jeju Island who led the Web.com Tour money list wire-to-wire last season.
"There's so many Korean youngsters here this week, so I'm going to really see how they perform," Els said. "Still a long way to go, but these guys, the young guys are going to be really the core of our team."
Els, who will turn 49 on Wednesday, made only five cuts in 15 PGA Tour starts last season, with his best result a T-30 finish at the Valero Texas Open. While it's increasingly likely that his unexpected triumph at the 2012 Open will end up being his final worldwide victory, he's eager to tackle a new challenge in the coming months by putting together the squad that he hopes can end the International losing skid in the biennial matches.
"The U.S. team is a well-oiled team. They play Ryder Cups together, they obviously play very well in the Presidents Cups against us, so they're a very mature team," Els said. "We are going to be a young team, inexperienced. But that doesn't scare me because I know the course very well down in Melbourne, I've played it many, many times. I feel I have a very good game plan to play the golf course strategy-wise and I'm going to share that with my players."