Golf Talk Live - Karrie Webb Transcript Segment 3
HI KARRIE. IT'S KEL. HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD NIGHT TONIGHT. I'M VERY PROUD OF YOU, NOT ONLY TO BE YOUR COACH, BUT BEING ONE OF YOUR BEST FRIENDS. UM, ALL THE BEST, HAVE A GOOD TIME.
HAS HE BECOME LIKE A SECOND DAD TO YOU IN A WAY?
YEAH, HE HAS. UM, YOU KNOW UH, I'VE KNOWN KEL PRETTY MUCH ALL MY LIFE. UM, HE WAS UH, WELL, STILL IS FRIENDS OF MOM AND DAD. AND THAT'S HOW HE BECAME MY COACH BECAUSE WE NEVER HAD UM, A CLUB PROFESSIONAL UM AT THE AYR GOLF CLUB AT THE TIME.
AND YOU KNOW, HE WAS A - A GOOD AMATEUR. AND UM, MOM AND DAD ASKED HIM IF, YOU KNOW, HE COULD JUST KEEP AN EYE ON ME UH TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T GET INTO ANY BAD HABITS AND - AND THAT'S HOW HE STARTED COACHING ME.
IT'S AMAZING. YOU WERE HIS FIRST STUDENT. HE IS YOUR FIRST AND ONLY TEACHER. YET HE DOESN'T GET THE KIND OF CREDIT THAT BUTCH AND DAVID LEADBETTER AND JIM MCCLEAN GET. BUT HE'S ENTITLED TO IT, ISN'T HE?
HE IS. UM, AND UH, YOU KNOW, HE DOESN'T UM, NECESSARILY UM, ISN'T WORLD RENOWNED. BUT UM, I THINK I LIKE IT THAT WAY A LITTLE BIT. UM, YOU KNOW, HE'S COACHING A LOT MORE NOW THAN HE EVER HAS,
WHICH I THINK IS GREAT. AND UH, BUT UM, THE FACT THAT UM, WHEN I GO BACK TO AYR, YOU KNOW, I HAVE HIM ALL TO MYSELF AND I LOVE THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S HOW HE WAS GROWING UP. UM, YOU KNOW, HE WOULD SIT THERE AND WATCH ME HIT BALLS FOR TWO OR THREE HOURS.
AND UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MUCH TIME WITH A COACH UM, IT'S - IT'S SO MUCH MORE BENEFICIAL. BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE A LESSON FOR AN HOUR WITH A COACH AND THEN HE LEAVES YOU TO WORK ON IT BY YOURSELF.
AND YOU REALLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO. I MEAN, WITH KEL (CHUCKLE) . UM, YOU KNOW, HE - HE WOULD SIT THERE UNTIL I GOT IT. AND UM, AND I THINK I WAS JUST VERY FORTUNATE THAT HE HAD THE TIME TO GIVE ME.
WELL, YOU DO HAVE IT. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR GOLF SWING FIRST. WE'LL TAKE LOOK AT YOUR PRE-SHOT ROUTINE AND A FEW SWINGS. TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON THAT WE CAN'T SEE IN TERMS OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS,
AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO TO GET READY TO HIT THE SHOT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO. LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK.
OKAY UM, IN MY NORMAL PRE-SHOT ROUTINE UM, AND - AND KEL TAUGHT ME AT - AT A FAIRLY A YOUNG AGE THAT, YOU KNOW, I NEEDED TO REPEAT UM, THAT - AS - AS MANY THINGS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. UM, I THINK THAT UH - AND HE SAID,
'THE MORE TIMES THAT YOU REPEAT IT, THE EASIER IT IS TO REPEAT THE ACTUAL GOLF SWING.' UM, SO I ALWAYS HAVE A - A SWING BEHIND THE BALL. UM, I PICK A SPOT JUST IN FRONT OF THE BALL AND WALK INTO THE BALL AND SET MY ALIGNMENT UP TO THAT SPOT AND UH,
DO THE WAGGLE. AND SOON AS I PUT THE CLUB BACK DOWN, I PRETTY MUCH GO.
HOW CONSCIOUSLY DURING THAT WAGGLE ARE YOU WAGGLING TO THE PLACE THAT YOU REALLY WANT TO PREVIEW FOR YOUR REAL SWING?
(CHUCKLE) UH, PROBABLY NOT AS MUCH AS KEL WOULD LIKE. (BOTH LAUGH)
UM, SOMETIMES BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A HABIT TO ME NOW THAT IT SORT OF - IT CAN WING ANYWHERE IT WANTS TO, JUST AS LONG AS I DO IT SOMETIMES. UH,
BUT UH, THERE ARE TIMES THAT I KNOW THAT MY TAKEAWAY IS BAD AND THEN I REALLY DO CONCENTRATE ON IT. AND UM, I - I PROBABLY DON'T CONCENTRATE ON IT, LIKE I SAID, AS MUCH AS KEL WOULD LIKE. BUT UM, IT'S GETTING THERE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY CONSCIOUS THOUGHTS ON THE GOLF COURSE OR JUST WHEN YOU PRACTICE WITH REGARD TO YOUR POSITION AT THE TOP? YOU SEEM TO SET THE CLUB SO BEAUTIFULLY EVERY TIME SO THAT YOUR DOWNSWING LOOKS - REFLECTS IT.
HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT AND WORK ON IT?
UM, NOT A - NOT A WHOLE LOT. UH, YOU KNOW, I TRY AND UH, NOT GET MY SWING PAST PARALLEL. UM, I DO TEND - GET THE TENDENCY TO DO THAT EVERY NOW AND THEN.
BUT UH, YOU KNOW, I - I FEEL LIKE IF I GET MY TAKEAWAY IN THE RIGHT SLOT, THE REST IS - IS . FEELS SIMPLE BECAUSE IT JUST GOES BACK TO WHERE I WANT IT TO. AS LONG AS I DON'T GET IT PAST PARALLEL UM, THINGS GO PRETTY SMOOTHLY FROM THERE.
NOW AS WE WATCH ONE MORE SHOT .
NOW THE PART OF YOUR GAME THAT HADN'T QUITE CAUGHT UP UNTIL PROBABLY A YEAR OR SO AGO WAS YOUR PUTTING. TELL ME HOW THAT EVOLVED SO THAT IT CAUGHT UP BEFORE WE GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
UM, WELL UH, I NEVER FELT LIKE I WAS A BAD PUTTER UM, AND THIS IS LEADING UP TO THE END OF '98, UM, END OF MY THIRD YEAR ON TOUR. UH, I NEVER FELT LIKE I WAS A BAD PUTTER. BUT, YOU KNOW, I HIT SO MANY GREENS THAT I - AND HIT THEM CLOSE, HIT - HIT IT CLOSE TO THE PIN THAT
I FELT LIKE I WAS LEAVING A FEW OUT THERE AND I - AND I COULD GIVE MYSELF MORE CHANCE, YOU KNOW, REALISTICALLY, MAKE A FEW MORE PUTTS.
UM, AT THE END OF '98, I WENT AND UM, I WAS OUT AT - UH, IN CARLSBAD, CALIFORNIA, UM AT THE TITLEIST TEST CENTER AND - AND ALSO UH VISITING SCOTTY CAMERON WHO UM, UH, AS MOST PEOPLE KNOW, MAKE TITLEIST PUTTERS.
SO UM, HE HAS ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING FACILITIES AND - AND JUST, YOU KNOW, WE WERE JUST DOING A NUMBER OF TESTS. AND ON ONE OF THE TESTS WITHOUT TELLING HIM, I PUTTED CROSS-HANDED.
AND UM, HE GOES, 'THAT WAS MUCH BETTER.' AND UH, I SAID, 'WELL, I PUTTED CROSS-HANDED.' SO WE DID ALL THE TESTS AGAIN CROSS-HANDED AND THEY ALL TURNED OUT TO - TO JUST GIVE ME A MUCH BETTER, MORE CONSISTENT ROLL ON THE BALL.
SO, YOU KNOW UM . YOU KNOW, REALIZING THAT I ONLY AM REALLY YOUNG INTO MY CAREER, I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO LOSE, AND I THOUGHT I'D GIVE IT A GOOD SIX MONTHS LAST YEAR TO SEE HOW IT WORKED.
AND FROM THE FIRST TOURNAMENT OF THE YEAR UH, THE PUTTS STARTED GOING IN AND I FELT VERY COMFORTABLE WITH - WITH IT STRAIGHTAWAY. SO UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T LOOKED BACK SINCE.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK. LET'S - LET'S LOOK BACK JUST FOR A MOMENT AT SOME OF THOSE SUCCESSFUL STROKES. I NOTICE THAT YOU DON'T TAKE A PRACTICE STROKE WHEN YOU GET OVER THE PUTT BUT JUST BEFORE. HOW DID THAT EVOLVE?
UM, WELL AS MOST PEOPLE KNOW, FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, I HAD UM EVAN, MY CADDIE, LINING ME UP ON MY PUTTS. AND UH, IT JUST EVOLVED BECAUSE UM ONCE I HAD A PRACTICE STROKE AT THE BALL,
I COULDN'T FIND THE SPOT THAT I WANTED TO HIT MY PUTT OVER. SO I HAD MY PRACTICE PUTTS BEHIND THE BALL AND THEN, BEFORE I WALKED IN, FOUND THE SPOT AND LOOKED AT THAT UNTIL I, YOU KNOW, ALIGNED MYSELF UP OVER THE BALL.
AND YOU KNOW, SINCE UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LAST EIGHTEEN MONTHS, EVAN HASN'T LINED ME UP. AND I REALLY FELT THAT . NOW, THAT I DON'T THINK I'D EVER HAVE HIM LINE ME UP AGAIN BECAUSE I - I REALLY FEEL LIKE IT TOOK A LOT OF FEEL OUT OF MY PUTTING.
UM, IT WAS TOO MECHANICAL AND UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TOO SET ON ONE SPOT. AND YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I'D GET OVER THE BALL WHEN HE WAS LINING ME UP AND NOT REALLY FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I SHOULD AIM A LITTLE BIT MORE BUT,
YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALREADY SET ON ONE SPOT. SO I - I REALLY FEEL LIKE PUTTING CROSS-HANDED AND HAVING HIM NOT DO THAT HAS REALLY CREATED A LOT MORE FEEL FOR ME.
HAS IT CHANGED THE WAY THAT YOU HIT THE PUTT TOO? I MEAN, SOMETIMES WHEN WE HOPE THAT THEY GO IN, AS OPPOSED TO KNOWING THAT THEY WILL, THE BALL SORT OF TRICKLES UP TO THE HOLE. BUT YOUR BALLS ARE DIVING INTO THE BOTTOM OF THE HOLE NOW.
YEAH, I'VE - I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE PUTTER. UM, AND YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT UM, LEAVING A PUTT SHORT - I MEAN, I'LL LEAVE PUTTS SHORT EVERY NOW AND THEN, BUT UM,
YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO GET THEM TO THE HOLE. I'D RATHER HAVE A 4-FOOTER PAST THE HOLE THAN A 3-FOOTER SHORT, UM, JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU'VE GIVEN IT A CHANCE.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA DO 'CAUSE YOU'VE JUST SEEN IT BREAK.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE SHORT BREAK. AND AS WE GO, WE'VE GOT A - A GRAPHIC OF YOU AND TIGER, WHO STARTED AT VERY CLOSE TO THE SAME TIME, A SORT OF AN UP-TO-DATE STUDY,
104 EVENTS FOR YOU AND 4 MISSED CUTS VERSUS 78 AND 1 FOR HIM, 20 WINS, 18, 2 MAJORS. LOOK AT YOUR TOP-3'S, 48 VERSUS 32. AND TIGER SAID THAT HE WOULD SPLIT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR 4.9 AND HIS 14.7 AND SEND YOU A CHECK.
KARRIE VS. TIGER
PRO CAREER STATS (LPGA & PGA TOUR)
EVENTS/MC 104/4 78/1
WINS 20 (19%) 18 (23%)
MAJORS 2 2
TOP-3'S 48 32
EARNINGS $4.90M $14.73M )
WELL, THAT'S PRETTY GENEROUS OF HIM. (CHUCKLE)
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
Twice winner Kizzire on missing U.S. Open: 'Fuel to my fire'
CROMWELL, Conn. – Based on recent form, there likely wasn’t a more decorated player watching last week’s U.S. Open from home than Patton Kizzire.
Kizzire is in the midst of a breakthrough season that has already included two wins: a maiden victory at the OHL Classic at Mayakoba in November, and a marathon playoff triumph over James Hahn at the Sony Open in January. While those titles got him into the Masters and the PGA Championship, they didn’t mean an exemption to Shinnecock Hills.
Kizzire got as high as 51st in the world rankings after his win in Honolulu, but his game started to turn shortly thereafter. A T-12 finish at the WGC-Mexico Championship is his lone top-25 finish in 12 starts since his Sony victory, and he missed four straight cuts from the Masters to The Players Championship.
The U.S. Open grants exemptions to the top 60 in the world at two different cutoff points close to the tournament. But in the midst of a cold streak, Kizzire was 63rd and 65th at each of those deadlines. He attempted to earn a spot at sectional qualifying in Columbus, only to find that his score of 5 under was one shot too many.
“I guess just adding a little fuel to my fire, adding insult to injury,” Kizzire said. “Just to have narrowly missed several different ways of qualification was disappointing. But I just tried to spin it as a positive. I got two weeks off, and I did watch those guys struggle a little bit. I wasn’t struggling at home, we’ll just say that.”
Kizzire hopes to put the disappointment behind him this week at the Travelers Championship, where he finished T-53 a year ago. And while his pair of trophies didn’t get him a tee time last week – or guarantee him a berth in The Open next month – they put him in prime position to make the season-ending Tour Championship, which would mean spots in the first three majors of 2019.
The combination of two recent wins and a ranking outside the top 60 isn’t one that comes up often on Tour, but Kizzire maintains a balanced perspective as he looks to get back to playing the kind of golf that will ensure he doesn’t miss any more majors in the near future.
“If I would have played better in between the U.S. Open and my last win, I would have gotten in. So my play was the reason I wasn’t in,” Kizzire said. “You certainly could look at it and say, ‘This guy’s got two wins, he should be in.’ But I’m not making too much of it.”
Masters, Players and U.S. Open champs grouped at Travelers
CROMWELL, Conn. – Fresh off a second straight U.S. Open victory, Brooks Koepka is getting right back to work at the Travelers Championship.
Koepka has stood by his commitment to tee it up at TPC River Highlands, becoming the first U.S. Open champ to play the following week on the PGA Tour since Justin Rose played the Travelers after his 2013 win at Merion. Koepka will play the first two rounds alongside Masters champ Patrick Reed and Webb Simpson, who captured The Players Championship last month.
Here’s a look at some of the other marquee, early-round groupings for a star-studded field outside Hartford (all times ET):
7:50 a.m. Thursday, 12:50 p.m. Friday: Jason Day, Xander Schauffele, Daniel Berger
Day is making his second straight Travelers appearance, having missed the cut both last year in Cromwell and last week at Shinnecock Hills. He’ll be joined by reigning Rookie of the Year Schauffele and Berger, who took home ROY honors in 2015 and last year was on the losing end of Jordan Spieth’s playoff dramatics at this event.
8 a.m. Thursday, 1 p.m. Friday: Brooks Koepka, Patrick Reed, Webb Simpson
Koepka is making his third tournament appearance overall, but his first since a T-9 finish in 2016, before he had either of his two U.S. Open trophies. Reed has become a regular at this event and enters off a fourth-place showing on Long Island, while Simpson cruised to victory last month at TPC Sawgrass and tied for 10th last week.
12:50 p.m. Thursday, 7:50 a.m. Friday: Jordan Spieth, Marc Leishman, Russell Knox
This was the tournament that turned things around last year for Spieth, who took home the title in his debut thanks to one of the most dramatic shots of the year in a playoff against Berger. He’ll start his title defense alongside a pair of past champs, as Leishman won here for his first Tour title back in 2012 and Knox was a winner two years ago when the tournament was played in August.
1 p.m. Thursday, 8 a.m. Friday: Bubba Watson, Rory McIlroy, Justin Thomas
This group should get plenty of attention in the early rounds, with Thomas entering as the highest-ranked player in the field at No. 2 and joined a pair of players who will launch drives all across TPC River Highlands. Watson has feasted on this layout, winning in both 2010 and 2015 among five top-10 finishes, while McIlroy tied for 17th last year in his tournament debut but missed the cut last week at Shinnecock.
Travelers Championship: Tee times, TV schedule, stats
There will be plenty of star power this week in Hartford as the PGA Tour moves north for the Travelers Championship. Here is the key info for this week's event.
How to watch:
Thursday, Rd. 1: Golf Channel, 3:30-6:30PM ET; live stream: https://www.golfchannel.com/pgastream
Friday, Rd. 2: Golf Channel, 3:30-6:30PM ET; live stream: https://www.golfchannel.com/pgastream
Saturday, Rd. 3: Golf Channel, 1-2:45PM ET; live stream: https://www.golfchannel.com/pgastream; CBS, 3-6 p.m.
Sunday, Rd. 4: Golf Channel, 1-2:45PM ET; live stream: https://www.golfchannel.com/pgastream; CBS, 3-6 p.m.
Purse: $7 million
Course: TPC River Highlands (par 70, 6,841 yards)
Defending champion: Jordan Spieth. Defeated Daniel Berger with a birdie on the first playoff hole.
Notables in the field
• Missed last two cuts (the Memorial, U.S. Open) entering this week
• 188th on PGA Tour in strokes gained: putting (4th in strokes gained: tee to green)
• Only player to win Travelers Championship back-to-back: Phil Mickelson (2001-02)
• Making third career start in Travelers Championship (last start: T-9 in 2016)
• First player to play Travelers week after U.S. Open win since 2013 (Justin Rose)
• First player to win U.S. Open back-to-back since 1988-89 (Curtis Strange)
• Fifth career start in this event (MC, T-3, MC last three years)
• Second on PGA Tour this season in strokes gained: tee to green (+1.49)
• Second career start in Travelers Championship (T-17 last year)
• Missed cut last week at U.S. Open (shot 80 in opening round)
• Fourth career start in Travelers Championship (best finish: T-18 in 2014)
• Leads PGA Tour in strokes gained: putting this season
• Earned second-most world ranking points of any player in 2018
• Finished fourth at U.S. Open last week (three shots behind Koepka)
Day 'disappointed' in USGA's handling of course, Phil
CROMWELL, Conn. – Jason Day had the weekend off following a missed cut at the U.S. Open, but that didn’t prevent the Aussie from keeping an eye on all the drama that unfolded at Shinnecock Hills.
The former world No. 1 found it “disappointing,” – with “it” being both the deterioration of a major championship setup and the fallout from Phil Mickelson’s putter slap during the third round.
Day is hoping to bounce back from an early exit at this week’s Travelers Championship, but before turning his attention to TPC River Highlands he shared that the brunt of his disappointment stemmed from the USGA’s inability to keep Shinnecock playable during the third round and their subsequent decision to water it down for the tournament’s conclusion.
“It’s more the course, about how they set it up. Because Saturday was a total, it was like two different golf courses, practically, on the greens Saturday versus Sunday,” Day said. “I just wish they would leave it alone and just let it go. Not saying to let the greens go and let them dry out and make it unfair, I’m just saying plan accordingly and hopefully whatever the score finishes, it finishes, whether it’s under par or over par.”
But Day’s frustration also tied back to Mickelson’s head-turning decision to hit a moving ball on the 13th green during the third round, and the USGA’s subsequent ruling that the actions merited a two-shot penalty but not a disqualification.
“It’s obviously disappointing to see what Phil did,” he said. “I think a lot of people have mixed reviews about what he did.”
USGA officials explained over the weekend that Mickelson’s actions explicitly fell under Rule 14-5, which called for a two-shot addition and turned his score of 8 into a 10, rather than Rule 1-2 or Rule 33-7 that could have resulted in disqualification for a “serious breach” of the rules.
Day felt it was unfortunate that all of Saturday’s drama deflected attention from a world-class performance from Brooks Koepka en route to a successful title defense, but when it comes to the handling of the Mickelson controversy he believes the USGA could have made good use of a mulligan.
“It’s just unfortunate that it happened at the USGA’s tournament, where they enforce the rules, like the R&A. And I think they may have, they probably should have enforced a different outcome for Phil,” Day said. “But it is what it is. It’s done. It’s just disappointing that that is overshadowing the winner of the whole week. I think if they had it back again, they may have chosen a different outcome.”